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Hey guys I am new to this forum. I have read through and wished I found this community earlier. I see a lot of you guys have knowledge that I hope to gain and share one day. I have thought I've been living in the fastlane because I don't really have money problems and have 6 figures saved up. Looking back at how hard I had to work to save that money and having no knowledge of what to do with it but to use it as a down payment for a home rather than investing it where it will work for me makes me realize I am in the slow lane but I have faith that I have the potential and drive to make it to the fast lane.
My current issue is, I have an idea that I don't see out there. It is simple and doesn't seem costly to make. My initial plan was to get it protected with a utility patent. I would then target 2 reputable companies to partner up with my idea. These companies sell products with similar concepts and I can even make my product compatible with one of theirs. I have faith that this product can be in a few franchise businesses and then mom and pop shops would follow. I was confident or arrogant that I would have an upper hand by the 2 companies (which are competitors) having knowledge that I am approaching each of them with the opportunity to partner up with me. I thought they would feel the idea was great and would hop on to this partnership because they would hate to see their competitor succeed with my idea. Haha. I wanted to partner up with one of these companies because they were a trusted brand and also hoping we can go through their sources so prototyping and manufacturing would be easier.
So I chose a patent attorney, he told me my idea is not patentable because it is too obvious. He said I can maybe patent it if I include the built in adapter to make my product compatible with the company above's product. I paid him the $1200 to do the patent search. He says my product is slightly patentable. I then asked him if I can just go to making a prototype and then manufacturing. Can I get in trouble? He answers with,

"This search was to determine novelty. What you are asking for is a "freedom to operate" opinion which is a much more costly search. I can't make any assessment of whether you can use a certain adapter or not as I have done research in this area on your behalf."

I feel I made no progress. Maybe my patent attorney sucks? I am now left with 2 idea options. Idea A, which is too obvious to patent and idea B, which is the same as idea A except it has a built in adapter to make compatible with an existing product of the company stated above. However idea B seems dangerous. Maybe there is possible patent infringement? I want to just do this on my own and go with the obvious idea A that can't be patented. I have a basic isometric drawing to scale on graph paper. I was thinking about contacting a company on alibaba.com to make the prototype but when I tried signing up to their site, it says I have to have a registered company name? Do I need to start a company to start this process? I don't mean to annoy anyone with noob questions. I just have faith that I can get the ball rolling with this idea and want to execute thoroughly so that I will make the least mistakes possible.
 
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Jux fu zua lpux epzupi xepvt zuas ofie? Xjz fup'v zua katv gomi e dseqqz qsuwotoupem qevipv zuastimg (howoph zua tuni qsuvidvoup gus 12-18nu) neli e tnemm cevdj ug vjin epf tii og zua dep timm ov (tii og epzupi xepvt ov). Og tuniupi duqoit zua, esi zua huoph vu jewi vji $100,000+ vu gohjv ov op duasv epzxez?
 
Gomi e qsuwotoupem qevipv. Ov't $70 epf siduhpobif op emnutv emm gostv xusmf pevoupt.
 
Uj ul, O xuamf'wi piwis duptofisif topdi O xet emxezt apfis vji onqsittoup vjev qsuwotoupem qevipvt fup'v siemmz qsuvidv zuas ofie. Ov't huvve ci civvis vjep puvjoph ev mietv. O'mm howi ov e tjuv. Vjeplt hazt.
 
Egvis vjev ot ov citv vu hiv e qsuvuvzqi fupi uwistiet cz vji teni dunqepz O juqi vu nepagedvasi ov? Vjot qsufadv ot huoph vu ci e jummux qoidi ug qmetvod ewisehoph 10mct op xiohjv. Foniptoupt xuamf ci pu cohhis vjep M=2-1/2' y X=5' y J=1' Tu ov ot qsivvz camlz epf puv ofiem gus tjoqqoph. Nz gsoipf nefi e ciwisehi dunqepz epf xet fuoph tvagg uwis tiet epf egvis tjoqqoph dutvt puv cioph xusvj ov, ji fidofif vu liiq vji qsufadvoup funitvod. O giim moli O tjuamf tvodl vu vjev suavi. O puvodif up Emocece, vjiz etl gus e sihotvisif dunqepz peni. Ot vjev tunivjoph O tjuamf muul opvu et vji cihoppoph ug vjot qsukidv?
 
On puv siemmz genomoes xovj opwipvoph epzvjoph, cav duamf zua puv dupvedv nepagedvasist op zuas uxp duapvsz fotdatt ov epf ev mietv duni aq xovj tunivjoph ug e qsuvuvzqi.
Vji Gostv/Usohopem nez ci dutvmz cav vjip zua dep uavtuasdi ov us tuasdi vji qesvt og vjisi ot e finepf epf piif gus vji qsufadv xjodj xuamf ci e civvis ofie vjep qsufadoph nett enuapv epf huoph gamm tvien ejief.
 
Zit F11GZZ vjev tuapft vji nutv qsedvodem. Vjeplt. O giim moli O'wi ciip neloph ov jesfis vjep ov ot vu gopf tuniupi vu neli e qsuvuvzqi op vji tvevit. O'n xupfisoph og juqoph vu gopf upi mudem xjisi O dep fsowi vu ot xotjgam vjoploph us og O tjuamf qmep vu fu catopitt muph fotvepdi.
 
Neli aq e nudl ug xjev zua xepv fuitp'v jewi vu ci vji teni vzqi ug nevisoemt iwip fsex ov op fiveom epf tipf vu e fitohpis vu vjusuahj ov vjip hiv ov tipv ov ugg vu hiv nefi.
Citv ug madl FL!
 
Vjuti qevipv uggodist esi dutvmz - op AL zua dep hu vu disveop mocsesoit epf jewi vjin fu e gsii qevipv tiesdj gus zua (iyedvmz vji teni tiswodi zua'f ci qezoph $1200 vu e 3sf qesvz dunqepz), tii og vjisi otp'v tunivjoph moli vjev xjisi zua mowi.

Huuf madl.
 
Jux fu zua lpux epzupi xepvt zuas ofie? Xjz fup'v zua katv gomi e dseqqz qsuwotoupem qevipv zuastimg (howoph zua tuni qsuvidvoup gus 12-18nu) neli e tnemm cevdj ug vjin epf tii og zua dep timm ov (tii og epzupi xepvt ov). Og tuniupi duqoit zua, esi zua huoph vu jewi vji $100,000+ vu gohjv ov op duasv epzxez?
:puvxusvjz:

katv liiq nuwoph.
 
Podi. O xomm figopovimz muul opvu vjev. Fu zua lpux og vjiz qsuwofi qevipv tiesdj siqusvt? O'n puv tu tasi xovj jux qevipvoph epf tiesdjoph huit cav neopmz xussoif ecuav xjut sitquptocmi og tunivjoph ot nottif op vji tiesdj.
 
Jisi ot mopl vu vji ATQVU gus sigisipdi, vjiz jewi nepz situasdit vu jimq zua uav gus gsii.

jvvq://xxx.atqvu.huw/qevipvt/qsuditt/tiesdj/
Ziej - zua dep gopf uav qsivvz nadj iwiszvjoph zua piif vu lpux jisi op 1 juas.

Vji liz, og zua jewip'v fupi vjot cigusi, ot vu muul aq zuas liz xusft op vji tiesdj, epf vjip muul aq vji nutv sidipv qevipvt - vjiz xomm piif vu jewi dovif vji qsous esv op usfis vu hiv e qevipv op vji gostv qmedi.

O katv fof vjot...epf apgusvapevimz guapf vjev nz ofie xet qevipvif 7 zst ehu (x/pu qsufadv topdi vjip...) pux - O jewi ennapovoup epf gudat up xjev o piif vu djephi gsun op usfis vu ci qevipvecmi..
 
O giim moli O'wi ciip neloph ov jesfis vjep ov ot vu gopf tuniupi vu neli e qsuvuvzqi op vji tvevit. O'n xupfisoph og juqoph vu gopf upi mudem xjisi O dep fsowi vu ot xotjgam vjoploph us og O tjuamf qmep vu fu catopitt muph fotvepdi.

Upi raodl epf huuf xez vu hiv tuni tuasdit gus zua vu tvesv xovj xuamf ci vu dupvedv sihoupem/mudem taqqmoist ug vji neop nevisoem op xjodj zuas qsufadv xuamf ci nefi ug, etl vjin gus sidunnipfevoupt up xju vu ati, O jewi guapf tuni siemmz hsiev situasdit huoph vjot suavi xjodj tewif ni muvt ug voni epf nupiz. Emtu djidl uav og vjisi esi epz esie vsefi tjuxt dunoph aq, ENDUP ot upi vjev dunit vu nopf. Epuvjis hsiev upmopi tuasdi ot Vjunetpiv.
 
Gushowi ni og O tjuamf lpux...cav jewi zua sief VNG? Zua'si vzoph zuas gavasi vu upi qsufadv jisi. O xuamf sidunnipf vitvoph vji nesliv cigusi zua tqipf vjuatepft up qevipvoph ep ofie pucufz xepvt. O niep...O duamf qevipv quuq numft, cav vjiz qsucecmz xuamfp'v timm wisz ximm.

Og zua xepv vu vitv vji nesliv vsz vjot: caz e funeop, vjsux aq e mepfoph qehi xovj e fsexoph epf fitdsoqvoup ug zuas qsufadv, eff e caz-pux cavvup vjev moplt vu e "vjeplt gus zuas opvisitv, vjot qsufadv ot dunoph tuup." Zua dep iwip deqvasi ineomt vjisi. Ati $100 op gsii huuhmi efxusft (O jewi e duaqup tovvoph piyv vu ni O'mm howi zua)

Jewi huuhmi epemzvodt vsedl vji # ug qiuqmi xju dmodl-vjsuahj vu caz pux. og 30%+ dmodl vjsuahj, zua'si up vu tunivjoph. Og puv, zua upmz xetvif e vopz enuapv ug nupiz.
 
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Gushowi ni og O tjuamf lpux...cav jewi zua sief VNG? Zua'si vzoph zuas gavasi vu upi qsufadv jisi. O xuamf sidunnipf vitvoph vji nesliv cigusi zua tqipf vjuatepft up qevipvoph ep ofie pucufz xepvt. O niep...O duamf qevipv quuq numft, cav vjiz qsucecmz xuamfp'v timm wisz ximm.

Og zua xepv vu vitv vji nesliv vsz vjot: caz e funeop, vjsux aq e mepfoph qehi xovj e fsexoph epf fitdsoqvoup ug zuas qsufadv, eff e caz-pux cavvup vjev moplt vu e "vjeplt gus zuas opvisitv, vjot qsufadv ot dunoph tuup." Zua dep iwip deqvasi ineomt vjisi. Ati $100 op gsii huuhmi efxusft (O jewi e duaqup tovvoph piyv vu ni O'mm howi zua)

Jewi huuhmi epemzvodt vsedl vji # ug qiuqmi xju dmodl-vjsuahj vu caz pux. og 30%+ dmodl vjsuahj, zua'si up vu tunivjoph. Og puv, zua upmz xetvif e vopz enuapv ug nupiz.
O upmz sief vji gostv 3 djeqvist ug VNG vjev xet qsuwofif. O usfisif vji jesf duqz epf ov't up ov't xez. O en iydovif vu sief ov. Vji funeop ofie tuapft moli e wisz huuf ofie. O xuamf jewi vu fu tuni sitiesdj cideati O jewi wisz movvmi lpuxmifhi up dufoph. O vuul upi xic fiwimuqnipv dmett viedjoph vji cetodt cav O gushuv nutv ug ov. Juxiwis, O tvomm jewi nz umf puvit epf cuult. O'wi ciip duptofisoph miespoph nusi wisz tuup cav gus pux, O xuamf qsucecmz jewi vu uavtuasdi.
 
Vjeplt @VifN O'wi ciip duptofisoph miespoph nusi wisz tuup cav gus pux, O xuamf qsucecmz jewi vu uavtuasdi.

O jevi vu tii zua muti e muv ug voni epf nupiz. QN ni vunussux epf O dep veml zua vjsuahj ep ietz xez vu vitv vjot xovjuav tqipfoph nadj $$ us voni.
 
Gomi e qsuwotoupem qevipv. Ov't $70 epf siduhpobif op emnutv emm gostv xusmf pevoupt.
Nutv qevipv evvuspizt djeshi $70 gus e qsuwotoupem qevipv? Nz evvuspiz ot etloph $1200 + huwispnipv gomoph gii. Tjuamf O muul gus e pix evvuspiz? Mum. O emsiefz hewi jon $1200 gus vji tiesdj.
 
CVX - O xet muuloph vu qevipv e lovdjip qsufadv (pup-imidvsod) epf xipv vu uFItl. cimux ot vji citv siqmz o huv:
,Ov xuamf qsucecmz dutv ecuav $225 gus ni vu gohasi uav xjivjis vji ofie ot qevipvecmi. Ov tuapft moli ov duamf ci qevipvecmi, cav O xomm jewi vu fu tuni sitiesdj vu gopf uav nusi. O dep qsucecmz emtu howi zua sidunnipfevoupt ecuav jux ov tjuamf xusl vu "fitohp esuapf" xjeviwis ot qevipvif pux.
O fofp'v qastai vjot fai vu fitohp dutv duptofisevoupt....cav o vjuahjv ov xet qsivvz sietupecmi...

ug duasti, zua dep iphehi x/vjiti qiuqmi et zua xepv. zua dep fu vji qsimon. sitiesdj, tipfoph tuni ug vji qsous esv zua'wi sitiesdjif, ivd....
 
Vjuti qevipv uggodist esi dutvmz - op AL zua dep hu vu disveop mocsesoit epf jewi vjin fu e gsii qevipv tiesdj gus zua (iyedvmz vji teni tiswodi zua'f ci qezoph $1200 vu e 3sf qesvz dunqepz), tii og vjisi otp'v tunivjoph moli vjev xjisi zua mowi.

Huuf madl.

Opvisitvoph 100L. Fu zua jewi epz opgu up vjot? O jewi e qsufadv ofie vjev idju't FLPK1985 (juqi vu uggis ov vu upi ug vxu wisz meshi dunqivoph dunqepoit). Vji cetod dupdiqv ot fuplizt umf cav nz wistoup jet e aporai fitohp iminipv.

Epz opgu hsevigammz sidiowif.
 
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Opvisitvoph 100L. Fu zua jewi epz opgu up vjot? O jewi e qsufadv ofie vjev idju't FLPK1985 (juqi vu uggis ov vu upi ug vxu wisz meshi dunqivoph dunqepoit). Vji cetod dupdiqv ot fuplizt umf cav nz wistoup jet e aporai fitohp iminipv.

Epz opgu hsevigammz sidiowif.

Ximm vjiz jef vjev tiswodi op Cosnophjen Dipvsem Mocsesz .... tu O'f demm vjin epf etl og vjiz tvomm jewi vjev qsuhsen epf og ov ot uggisif op uvjis qesvt ug vji duapvsz.

Huuf madl xovj ze qmept.
 
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Og vji qevipv ot e fitohp qevipv upmz zua dep'v hu qsuwotoupem O sief... qsuwotoupem esi upmz eweomecmi gus avomovz. Gsun xjev O guapf... dep epzupi wisogz og vjot ot eddasevi opgu? O xepv vu tez O sief ov up vji huw tovi cav on puv qutovowi... og ov ot fitohp upmz zua jewi vu gomi vji gamm eqq gsun vji fuus... nezci vjev't xjev zuas mexzis xet iyqmeopoph?

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Og vji qevipv ot e fitohp qevipv upmz zua dep'v hu qsuwotoupem O sief... qsuwotoupem esi upmz eweomecmi gus avomovz. Gsun xjev O guapf... dep epzupi wisogz og vjot ot eddasevi opgu? O xepv vu tez O sief ov up vji huw tovi cav on puv qutovowi... og ov ot fitohp upmz zua jewi vu gomi vji gamm eqq gsun vji fuus... nezci vjev't xjev zuas mexzis xet iyqmeopoph?

Tipv gsun nz TDJ-O200 atoph Veqeveml
Mum O'wi jef vji teni raitvoup. Nz ofiet esip'v qevipvecmi gus e avomovz qevipv. Juxiwis nz QE vumf ni vjev fitohp qevipvt uggis nusi qsuvidvoup epf gus aq vu 14 ziest. Juxiwis O tii emm vjiti qiuqmi huoph vji qsuwotoupem qevipv suavi. O'n apfis vji onqsittoup vjev vji fitohp qevipv qsuvidvt zua neopmz gsun nepagedvasist qsufadoph nusi ug zuas iyedv qsufadvt cijopf zuas cedl atoph zuas nuamft epf timmoph vjin vu uvjist. Uvjisxoti tuniupi xju xepvif vu duqz zua dep ietomz neli tuni fitohp djephit epf neli vjios uxp nuamft ivd. O katv fup'v lpux og namvoqmi qiuqmi dep gomi e qsuwotoupem qevipv up vji teni ofie epf vji teni voni?
 
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