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Thanks Chris,So most importantly, what can you do about all this? That's the biggest thing of course.
Well this is not medical advice and you should talk to your doctor before making any changes… but of you’re really serious about fixing this, I highly suggest getting a genetic test and seeing where the problems are. Your dopamine tone is critical and largely genetically determined. There are a lot of things that can go wrong genetically with dopamine neurotransmission. I'll list them just in case anyone wants to do further research, but certain genes make it hard for the body to synthesize dopamine (MTHFR, Tyrosine Hydroxylase,) dopamine may break it down too fast (SLC6A3, MAOA, MAOB, COMT, DBH,) your brain might not produce enough dopamine receptors for it to attach to (DRD1-DRD5, opioid receptors,) among other issues.
There’s a different solution to each of these genes.
If you have the MTHFR gene, I’ve heard L-Methylfolate is a miracle (in some cases can completely fix dopamine issues)
View: https://youtu.be/efFtviwOTaI?t=15
Genetics is a complex topic. You’re going to have to research it yourself or post questions here.
Diet can be a factor too. Dopamine is synthesized from a protein called Tyrosine. So if you don't get adequate intake of Tyrosine, it can make it hard for your body to produce it.
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After watching the Ending Addiction video series, I’ve since made friends over email with Dr. Howard Wetsman, and he has a genetic analysis company that does just this (figures out problems with Dopamine neurotransmission.) The link is: Products – GenEd Systems While his products focus on addiction, and is only in it's early stages, the same solutions apply to the issues we’ve spoken about here.
Otherwise, here are some other tactics than may help regardless of genetics. I'll treat it into "probably will help" and "might help."
Probably will help:
Exercise - Not only does it boost DA, but in addition exercise increases the number of receptors in the brain which actually has very very pronounced effects.. it essentially raises DA neurotransmission in two separate ways [1] [2] [3]
Meditation [1] (This study found a SIXTY-FIVE PERCENT increase in dopamine release after meditation, although that high of a number may not be typical) [2][3]
Getting 8 hours sleep is just good for everything
Reduce sugar (sugar causes a dopamine spike, but down regulates receptors.. causing really bad long-term effects, switch to fruits which don't cause spikes) [1]
Plenty of sunlight! [1] [2] Sunlight
Setting Small Goals (breaking your big goals into chunks) [1]
Setting S.M.A.R.T. Goals - Specific, Measurable, Assignable, Realistic, Time-related – specify when the result(s) can be achieved.
Eating Protein (foods high in phenylalanine/tyrosine) [1]
Might help:
Listen to music [1] [2] [3]
Reducing Saturated Fat [1] (saturated fat is NOT as evil as the media made it out to be so wouldn’t go crazy,) but one study found that rats that consumed 50% of their calories from saturated fat had reduced dopamine signaling in the reward areas of their brain, compared to animals receiving the same amount of calories from unsaturated fat
Probiotics [1] [2] [3]
Supplements: L-Tyrosine, L-Phenylalinine, L-theanine, Phosphatidylserine, Curcumin, Ginkgo Biloba, Mucuna Pruriens,
More: 54 Supplements & Drugs/Agonists to Increase Dopamine - Selfhacked (Selfhacked is, in my opinion, a great resource for stuff like this)
But still, I think getting genetic testing is the single biggest thing if there are any serious issues. Genetic testing and analysis is a full blown solution to this. The other biggies are Exercise, Meditation, Diet, Hydration, and proper goal setting (S.M.A.R.T. goals.)
You can also do your own searches on this stuff, just make sure the information is from a reliable, mainstream or scientific source. If the website uses a bunch of emotional, bombastic or excited language, be very careful. Real scientists are boring lol. They use really boring big words and rarely make grand statements. I find this custom search engine to be helpful, and has a Pro-science option in the drop down.
Search News based on Highly Factual Reporting
Search High or Very High Factual News Sites only and ignore the fake news propaganda on the net. Only sites with High or Very High reporting are included. Each site is classified into the following biases: Left, Left-Center, Least (or Center), Right-Center, Right and Pro-Science.factualsearch.news
If you feel like you have serious attention issues, get tested for ADHD because Inattentive Type ADD and Low-Conscientiousness correlate at the .8 level and if you remember, a .8 correlation is astronomical. They’re essentially synonyms. Your doctor can help you with this. And get tested of all the subtypes of ADHD (ADHD-Combined, ADHD-Primarily Inattentive and a related new disorder called SCT)
You’re going to have to do some research on your own or post your questions here. If you want me to cover any of the other personality traits, I’d be more than happy to.
For now here are a few basic tips regarding the other traits:
If you’re too high in Agreeableness (you’re a pushover) Assertiveness Training is a great solution.
If you’re too low in Openness to experience, I’m not going to condone drug use, but I’ve heard (*cough cough*) a single LSD has been shown to improve that trait - Live Science - A Single Psychedelic Drug Trip Can Change Your Personality for Years. Google “LSD and Openness” for more info
For Neuroticism, therapy may be helpful.
For general personality change, check out this article: Psychology Today - Can an Introvert Ever Change?
Any questions, feel free to post here.
Hope this is helpful!
All the stuff you say about meditation, sleep, nutrition... Is great and comes under the category of NO SHIT for anyone wanting to stay healthy and who's literate probably already knows.
That's not a dis BTW, it's more like high 5 to you and a dis to everyone NOT doing all of the cost-free behavior and lifestyle stuff most young children know from their moms, yet fail to apply and act on.
Genetic testing, wow, expensive ( I think) and unnecessary at least until you have done all the free stuff. Same for the doctor.
That said, it's a good option for a more complete and thorough solution as you said above. I just hate it when people are left thinking that their destiny in anything is in the control of others'. While that is sometimes true and you should exercise those options if you can't solve them yourself. It's a sign of an evolved person to recognize when they can't help themselves, just as it is to recognize, you usually CAN help yourself. Thank you for qualifying it Chris, respect.
For ADHD there's no question I am. Your advice about the doctor for that, unless he's a specialist is well, terrible IMHO.
ADHD meds are shit and do more harm than good in all but the most severe cases. I can tell you from direct experience as someone with ADHD and 15 years dealing with child hypers in my classes, that MOST need to be managed correctly and learn to manage themselves, but do not need drugs. If they do, you should seek them out, but the drug-free options are FREE, and more importantly, are usually sufficient, plus, it's a matter of education and possibly training or practice and ZERO side effects. If it doesn't work, you can still go to your doctor and get yourself or your kid stoned ( WITH side effects ).
If you honestly think the pharmaceutical industry puts your best interest, health or well being ahead of profit at ANY expense, you haven't been paying attention.
For the following I've answered as though you were referring to me specifically, is that correct?
I'm low agreeableness, not high, just in case my posts don't make that obvious, if anything, I need to manage being intentionally agreeable, which I can do just fine in most cases. UNLESS I decide I just don't care about the fallout, in which case I speak my mind knowing the potential ramifications;-)
Conscientiousness, I'm high, not low. And while OCEAN is the most scientifically validated personality type system around, I still laugh at it for being shockingly wrong often. Several of the predictions say I'm all but impossible, that my personality can't exist because the systems says I can't, but I haven't blinked out of existence...yet;-)
So IF this is the best system for measuring personality, and it is, AND it predicts that an ADHD person SHOULD BE low on conscientiousness, or is at the very least that someone with ADHD yet high conscientiousness is improbable, either I'm a very F*cking exceptional snowflake....OR the test fails to accurately predict something that REALLY EXISTS.
THEREFORE, "All models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box, or my own version..."All models are incomplete. but some are useful." Tim B. Green ( me;-)
OCEAN is the best we have, but it's FAR from magic and equally far from accurate or right in many situations. I just read a boastful article recently about big data finding four main personality types, weird, I'm none of them
- To be fair it did say people " tended to cluster" around four types, so at least, they weren't so irresponsible to say there ARE four personality types, but there are four MAIN types.
I'll address SMART goals and most goal-setting stuff in my own post on that topic another time because my own position and approach is controversial, and entirely my own, like my fitness stuff.
To be clear, SMART goals are better than no goals and far better than most, but after years applying them, GE ( I think it was GE ) realized SMART was insufficient and took a cue from the Japanese by adding stretch goals to their arsenal, why? Because SMART is a model and is therefore incomplete.
SMART is clever, but add-ons like Stretch goals ( which would be excluded from SMART goals by definition ) because they're not measurable, realistic or timebound in the sense that SMART goals require, aka you're forced to use to apple the SMART system and The One Thing and makes for a more complete and therefore more useful, though still incomplete model for setting effective goals.
I'll explain that in my thread on goal setting ( no promises as to when, but I will eventually do it ).
Chris, IFF I was mistaken in my assumption about some of these comments being a direct reference to me, let me know, because it means some of my self-referenced responses don't apply to your post. If however, they do, I'd appreciate your verification of the same.
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