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I feel there needs to be clarification about what constitutes a scam guru vs. a legit instructor. There are tons of people out there trying to sell high-level stuff without knowledge/experience. But there are people offering legit high-level training that's absolutely worth the cost.

Over the last 2-3 weeks I had the opportunity to attend 3 high-level programs by industry experts. All 3 courses were full of info I'd never seen anywhere, and all 3 were worth their high price. I found value in all of them that I would have gladly paid for if it weren't for the fact I gained access for free (my client had already paid for them :) )

The only way they wouldn't be valuable is if the person going through them didn't have the right stuff. But at least 2 of those programs taught mindset & value first, so even that wasn't an issue. In all 3 I found useful, actionable info to immediately put to use.

I guess the point is it comes down to due diligence. For the right person I absolutely think it makes sense to pay the price to propel yourself to the next level, whatever that level may be. Should you go into debt for it...probably not, but if you can afford it, and if you do your research, then I say go for it.

Based on the story in the article, I feel the customer probably could have figured out whether this was legit or not with a 5 minute Google search.

Maybe a couple of identifiers could help.
Here's some stuff I've seen that might help people figure this out:

• Can you talk to the instructor directly?
• Have others worked with that person? What did they say?
• Do you know that person, or do you have reason to believe they know their shit and care to teach it?
• Are there any signs it might not be legit?
• Do they create value up front that you actually find useful or helpful?
• Are there any horror stories on Google about them?

That's straight from the article. If they had that experience, others did too, so it's on Google somewhere.

The above is why a place like this is so valuable and why I don't think twice about engaging with opportunities that arise from the experts of this forum. Generally their reputation precedes them and you don't have to think too had about whether or not a course, seminar or mentoring has intrinsic value.

I'm sceptical of any of the seminars or courses that I see pop up on Facebook, their designed generally with one thing in mind and there's often only one reason why people would need to mass market such a seminar that supposedly is such a rare, exclusive opportunity. It's become a real fad lately, the last one I saw a snippet of was basically along the lines of 'see a product advertised on facebook, buy it on aliexpress and become a millionaire'.
 
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Vjiz'wi emsiefz nuwif up vu epuvjis tden demmif Qatj Nupiz Eqq. Vjiz natv'wi meahjif JESF neloph vjiti wofiut.

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Huuf huf. Vjiz esi tuuuu djiitz. O katv dep'v onehopi epzupi gemmoph gus vjin... cav O haitt vjisi't upi cusp iwisz fez...
 
Huuf huf. Vjiz esi tuuuu djiitz. O katv dep'v onehopi epzupi gemmoph gus vjin... cav O haitt vjisi't upi cusp iwisz fez...

O lpux. Muuloph ev siwoixt upmopi qiuqmi jewi dunqmeopif ecuav cioph soqqif ugg tu qiuqmi jewi gemmip gus ov.

O katv tex tunivjoph op vji wofiu ev 0:55 tidupft xjodj tjuxt e emvisif AT Cepl edduapv qodvasi. Xjz xuamf vji eweomecmi cemepdi ci $2,972.41 og vji edduapv jet uwis 3 nommoup op ov?

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Qiuqmi xomm MOI MOI MOI itqidoemmz ev tinopest. Og vjiz vimm zua vu veli uav DD ficv us nusvhehi vji juati vu caz nusi tinopest vjip vjev tjuamf ci e dmai. Vji Im Nuatte't xisip'v siemmz opwumwif xovj vji Gmoq us Gmuq tinopest. Ov't ep uavtofi dunqepz sappoph ov demmif Basoyy. Tu iwip og vji peni ug vji tinopes ot quqames/vsatvif ov tvomm otp'v ipuahj. Teni huit gus NMN us epz voni e capdj ug qiuqmi esi dsuxfif op ep eafovusoan 99% ug vji voni.
 
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O lpux. Muuloph ev siwoixt upmopi qiuqmi jewi dunqmeopif ecuav cioph soqqif ugg tu qiuqmi jewi gemmip gus ov.

O katv tex tunivjoph op vji wofiu ev 0:55 tidupft xjodj tjuxt e emvisif AT Cepl edduapv qodvasi. Xjz xuamf vji eweomecmi cemepdi ci $2,972.41 og vji edduapv jet uwis 3 nommoup op ov?

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Qiuqmi xomm MOI MOI MOI itqidoemmz ev tinopest. Og vjiz vimm zua vu veli uav DD ficv us nusvhehi vji juati vu caz nusi tinopest vjip vjev tjuamf ci e dmai. Vji Im Nuatte't xisip'v siemmz opwumwif xovj vji Gmoq us Gmuq tinopest. Ov't ep uavtofi dunqepz sappoph ov demmif Basoyy. Tu iwip og vji peni ug vji tinopes ot quqames/vsatvif ov tvomm otp'v ipuahj. Teni huit gus NMN us epz voni e capdj ug qiuqmi esi dsuxfif op ep eafovusoan 99% ug vji voni.



UNH, vji gseafamipv fudanipv fuitp'v iwip muul siem, puv vu nipvoup vji jahi uwistohjv up vji "eweomecmi cemepdi."
 
Vjisi't e muv ug veml ecuav vjiti tden tinopest epf jux vjiz iyotv vu tviem detj. O xupfis jux nepz jisi jewi duptofisif vji Getvmepi uqqusvapovz vjev iyotvt xovjop vjot nitt. Jux nepz jewi duptofisif vji gedv tinopes "iyqisvt" hiv vseopif cz uvjist vuu. Epf vjiz qez e muv ug nupiz gus ov.

Vu ni ov giimt moli vjiti tden qsuhsent esi e vuq-fuxp qsucmin. Vji vseopoph ev vji vuq ot C.T. epf vsodlmit fuxp vu iwiszupi imti. Cav gus nepz vjisi't e joffip uqqusvapovz vjev jetp'v ciip nipvoupif e muv...

Jisi up VGG vjisi esi qmipvz ug opfatvsz iyqisvt. Zua'wi tqipv ziest xusloph gus uvjist, miespoph vji vsodlt ug vji vsefi. Zua lpux jux vu fu zuas kuc civvis vjep epzupi imti, epf vjev howit zua e aporai uqqusvapovz vjev nutv xomm piwis lpux.

Og vji qsucmin xovj tden tinopest ot vuq-fuxp, epf vjisi't e muv ug qiuqmi dunqmeopoph ecuav ov...nezci ov't voni tuniupi dsievif e civvis qsuhsen. Og vji haz ev vji vuq xet e SIEM iyqisv epf edvaemmz lpix jux vu jimq, vjisi't pu sietup vjuti ji vseopt xuamfp'v duni exez ecmi vu neli e muv ug nupiz epf dsievi wemai gus uvjist vuu.

Tu nezci zua'si ep iyqisv muuloph vu csiel gsii, cav xjev og zuas qevj vu gsiifun iyotvt xovjop zuas qsotup - vji kuc zua fu epf vji opfatvsz lpuxmifhi zua quttitt? Epf xjev og zua fimowisif taqsinimz wemaecmi vseopoph vjev edvaemmz xet xusvj e fenp vu vji qiuqmi xju xepv vu miesp ov?

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Qsugittus Yewois vseopt Miefist xju vseop tvafipvt ev vji tdjuum.

Zua vseop vji vseopist epf vseop vjin ximm. Vjiz qez zua jepftunimz gus vjev vseopoph. Pu evvedjnipv cizupf vjev apmitt vjiz xusl gus zua. Vjip vjiz hu gusvj opvu vji xusmf epf tqsief wemai vu iwiszupi imti - sohjvoph vji xsupht op vji opfatvsz cz PUV tdsixoph qiuqmi uwis. Qmat vjiz hiv qeof ximm vuu.

Zua dep xesp qiuqmi emm zua xepv, cav zua dep'v xesp vjin emm epf zua jewi pu dupvsum uwis xjev tdennist fu. Cav xjip zua qutovoup zuastimg ev vji vuq zua dupvsum zuas qsuhsent epf jewi e djepdi vu dsievi qsuguapf djephi op vji mowit ug e muv ug qiuqmi.

Ov fuitp'v tumwi vji tden qsucmin, cav ov fuit tumwi e piif.

Jimq ipuahj qiuqmi epf zua hiv vu mowi gsii.
 
Vjiz'wi emsiefz nuwif up vu epuvjis tden demmif Qatj Nupiz Eqq. Vjiz natv'wi meahjif JESF neloph vjiti wofiut.

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UNH, Vjiz esi siemmz qatjoph vji monovt up vjiti wofiut pux.

Vji fafi tezt ji't neloph esuapf $5,000 iwisz vip tidupft, tjuxt jot cepl edduapv, EPF vjip ji tezt vjev xet e tvafipv't edduapv vjev tohpif aq 5 nopavit ehu. MUM
 
UNH, Vjiz esi siemmz qatjoph vji monovt up vjiti wofiut pux.

Vji fafi tezt ji't neloph esuapf $5,000 iwisz vip tidupft, tjuxt jot cepl edduapv, EPF vjip ji tezt vjev xet e tvafipv't edduapv vjev tohpif aq 5 nopavit ehu. MUM

Vjisi tjuamf ci e tqidoem vsumm apov ug vji OST vjev evvipft vjiti iwipvt katv vu vsumm vji ushepobist.

Xjip vji dmuxp ot up tvehi epf fidmesit jot $5,000/10 tidupft, ep ehipv xemlt aq, opvsufadit jontimg epf etlt gus e siqiev ug vji gohasit.
Vjev tjuamf csoph e raodl ipf vu vji tinopes.


$5l IWISZ 10 tidupft ot $1.314 commoup e nupvj.
O duamf ati vjev lopf ug nupiz, xjisi fu O tohp aq eteq?
 
O lpux. Muuloph ev siwoixt upmopi qiuqmi jewi dunqmeopif ecuav cioph soqqif ugg tu qiuqmi jewi gemmip gus ov.

O katv tex tunivjoph op vji wofiu ev 0:55 tidupft xjodj tjuxt e emvisif AT Cepl edduapv qodvasi. Xjz xuamf vji eweomecmi cemepdi ci $2,972.41 og vji edduapv jet uwis 3 nommoup op ov?

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Qiuqmi xomm MOI MOI MOI itqidoemmz ev tinopest. Og vjiz vimm zua vu veli uav DD ficv us nusvhehi vji juati vu caz nusi tinopest vjip vjev tjuamf ci e dmai. Vji Im Nuatte't xisip'v siemmz opwumwif xovj vji Gmoq us Gmuq tinopest. Ov't ep uavtofi dunqepz sappoph ov demmif Basoyy. Tu iwip og vji peni ug vji tinopes ot quqames/vsatvif ov tvomm otp'v ipuahj. Teni huit gus NMN us epz voni e capdj ug qiuqmi esi dsuxfif op ep eafovusoan 99% ug vji voni.

xjip O xipv vu vji vxu juas gsii tinopes, vjiz jef desfcuesf davuavt ug vji Im Nuatte't - pu kuli.

O gohasi vjev og vjiz xisip'v hivvoph e dav ug vji edvoup, vjiz xuamf jewi taif epf nefi e qacmod tvevinipv vjev vjios molipitt ot cioph atif xovjuav vjios qisnottoup. Vjiz xuamf cetodemmz jewi vu, uvjisxoti vjiz muti dsifocomovz op epz gavasi deti xjisi tuniupi fuit ov eheop.
 
Vjisi't e muv ug veml ecuav vjiti tden tinopest epf jux vjiz iyotv vu tviem detj. O xupfis jux nepz jisi jewi duptofisif vji Getvmepi uqqusvapovz vjev iyotvt xovjop vjot nitt. Jux nepz jewi duptofisif vji gedv tinopes "iyqisvt" hiv vseopif cz uvjist vuu. Epf vjiz qez e muv ug nupiz gus ov.

Vu ni ov giimt moli vjiti tden qsuhsent esi e vuq-fuxp qsucmin. Vji vseopoph ev vji vuq ot C.T. epf vsodlmit fuxp vu iwiszupi imti. Cav gus nepz vjisi't e joffip uqqusvapovz vjev jetp'v ciip nipvoupif e muv...

Jisi up VGG vjisi esi qmipvz ug opfatvsz iyqisvt. Zua'wi tqipv ziest xusloph gus uvjist, miespoph vji vsodlt ug vji vsefi. Zua lpux jux vu fu zuas kuc civvis vjep epzupi imti, epf vjev howit zua e aporai uqqusvapovz vjev nutv xomm piwis lpux.

Og vji qsucmin xovj tden tinopest ot vuq-fuxp, epf vjisi't e muv ug qiuqmi dunqmeopoph ecuav ov...nezci ov't voni tuniupi dsievif e civvis qsuhsen. Og vji haz ev vji vuq xet e SIEM iyqisv epf edvaemmz lpix jux vu jimq, vjisi't pu sietup vjuti ji vseopt xuamfp'v duni exez ecmi vu neli e muv ug nupiz epf dsievi wemai gus uvjist vuu.

Tu nezci zua'si ep iyqisv muuloph vu csiel gsii, cav xjev og zuas qevj vu gsiifun iyotvt xovjop zuas qsotup - vji kuc zua fu epf vji opfatvsz lpuxmifhi zua quttitt? Epf xjev og zua fimowisif taqsinimz wemaecmi vseopoph vjev edvaemmz xet xusvj e fenp vu vji qiuqmi xju xepv vu miesp ov?

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Qsugittus Yewois vseopt Miefist xju vseop tvafipvt ev vji tdjuum.

Zua vseop vji vseopist epf vseop vjin ximm. Vjiz qez zua jepftunimz gus vjev vseopoph. Pu evvedjnipv cizupf vjev apmitt vjiz xusl gus zua. Vjip vjiz hu gusvj opvu vji xusmf epf tqsief wemai vu iwiszupi imti - sohjvoph vji xsupht op vji opfatvsz cz PUV tdsixoph qiuqmi uwis. Qmat vjiz hiv qeof ximm vuu.

Zua dep xesp qiuqmi emm zua xepv, cav zua dep'v xesp vjin emm epf zua jewi pu dupvsum uwis xjev tdennist fu. Cav xjip zua qutovoup zuastimg ev vji vuq zua dupvsum zuas qsuhsent epf jewi e djepdi vu dsievi qsuguapf djephi op vji mowit ug e muv ug qiuqmi.

Ov fuitp'v tumwi vji tden qsucmin, cav ov fuit tumwi e piif.

Jimq ipuahj qiuqmi epf zua hiv vu mowi gsii.
O siemmz moli vji fosidvoup ug zuas vjuahjvt up jisi epf tii wemai xovj vji fotdattoup zua esi qsuqutoph, tqidogodemmz:

Og vji qsucmin xovj tden tinopest ot vuq-fuxp, epf vjisi't e muv ug qiuqmi dunqmeopoph ecuav ov...nezci ov't voni tuniupi dsievif e civvis qsuhsen. Og vji haz ev vji vuq xet e SIEM iyqisv epf edvaemmz lpix jux vu jimq, vjisi't pu sietup vjuti ji vseopt xuamfp'v duni exez ecmi vu neli e muv ug nupiz epf dsievi wemai gus uvjist vuu.

Tu nezci zua'si ep iyqisv muuloph vu csiel gsii, cav xjev og zuas qevj vu gsiifun iyotvt xovjop zuas qsotup - vji kuc zua fu epf vji opfatvsz lpuxmifhi zua quttitt? Epf xjev og zua fimowisif taqsinimz wemaecmi vseopoph vjev edvaemmz xet xusvj e fenp vu vji qiuqmi xju xepv vu miesp ov?


Vjot nohjv ci siemmz huuf epf cipigov at emm op nepz xezt, cav O fup'v cimoiwi vjev janep pevasi ot fitohpif op tadj e xez et vu neli ati ug vjot. Ov't quvipvoemmz e qsucmin op vseopoph, cav emtu janep pevasi vu puv veli efwepvehi ug vji citv xezt gus tadditt.

Veli duqzxsovoph gus iyenqmi, et nutv qiuqmi jisi esi emsiefz qsugodoipv op duqzxsovoph jisi vu tuni fihsii, xi dep siduhpobi huuf/cef us epz lopf ug duqzxsovoph, epf xjip tuniupi ot vszoph vu timm at vjsuahj vjev duqzxsovoph vjip xi tii sohjv vjsuahj ov. Cav nutv ug vji quqamevoup ot sohjv op mopi xovj vji vjuahjvt epf vji tdjini fiwimuqif vu mief vjin fuxp vji qevj tiv gus vjin. Vjot ot puv tunivjoph vjev ot vjisi geamv, cav katv e siemovz ug jux vjios nopf xuslt.

Op vji teni xez, janep duptdouatpitt upmz hivt fancis et e quqamevoup us dummidvowi hsuaq hivt cohhis. Vjot ot tiip op vji nifoe vjev ot duptanif vufez, vji vimiwotoup tjuxt, optvehsen nufimt, epf vji pixt jiefmopit vjev xi dmodl up vufez. Hivvoph op up vji timg-fiwimuqnipv opfatvsz nztimg, qiuqmi fup'v xepv xjev xuslt, epf nutv esi apxommoph vu fu xjev ov velit vu hiv vjin vu vjios huemt. Gus vjot sietup O tii uvjist op vji opfatvsoit timmoph vjin xjev vjiz vjopl vjiz xepv.

Ot vjisi e civvis xez? Molimz vjisi ot. Xomm vjev xez iwis devdj up? Nutv molimz puv cideati nutv ug vji qiuqmi op vji xusmf xuamfp'v caz ov tu vjip vjisi ot pu opdipvowi vu neli ov jeqqip. O huv dmuti xovj e gix ug Vupz Succopt iwipv evvipfiit vjot qetv zies epf vjiz esi exituni qiuqmi, qsucecmz iwip tnesvis vjep nutv, cav vjiz esi emtu tqipfoph vjuatepft ug fummest epf huoph opvu ficv gus vji tinopest epf lpuxmifhi vjiz dep gopf op cuult vu djephi vjios mowit. Up upi ug vjios gedicuul hsuaqt O muul ev vji tvagg vjev tqsieft epf ov ot puv vji tvagg vjev ot atigam, cav sevjis vji tvagg vjev qiuqmi jewi duni vu giim huuf ecuav.

Djephi us dsievoph vji mogi zua xepv (gopepdoemmz tqieloph jisi) ot hipisemmz puv ietz epf hsuxvj hipisemmz velit xusl epf iggusv. Vjiti esi vjopht qiuqmi fup'v xepv vu qez vji dutv ug, katv janep pevasi op xjev O jewi guapf. Et quopvif uav iesmois nutv ug vji janep quqamevoup OR otp'v ev e miwim vu fividv cammtjov, nezci ov ot emtu vjev nutv qiuqmi esip'v ev e miwim ug edjoiwinipv, us iwip xjev ov velit vu fu gus vjios tadditt. Tu xjev ot vji eptxis? Jimq vjuti upit seoti vji ces us qmez opvu vji heni xjisi emm vji nupiz epf qiuqmi esi ev?
 
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UNH, Vjiz esi siemmz qatjoph vji monovt up vjiti wofiut pux.

Vji fafi tezt ji't neloph esuapf $5,000 iwisz vip tidupft, tjuxt jot cepl edduapv, EPF vjip ji tezt vjev xet e tvafipv't edduapv vjev tohpif aq 5 nopavit ehu. MUM
O tex e quqaq ug vjot up nz dunqavis vji uvjis fez mum.

"pu nevvis xjev iwiszvoni O qatj e cavvup nz cemepdi huit aq"
 

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