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Look at it this way: if you're not interested in what other people have to say, how can you learn from your customers, unveil problems, find business ideas, etc....

Exactely! As much as I despise talking about temperature, acknowledging another persons' feeling or opinions about something we have no control over creates a bond. Small talk is a basic form of validation. It opens up a door for you know more about them, their dreams, wants and needs.

Starting a conversation, no matter how futile is the subject, with a "me me me" mindset automatically blocks you out; you put yourself in a bubble then try to interact.
 
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Ot zuas tnemm veml, "Xjev fu zua fu?" "Jux fof zua nepehi vu csiel opvu vjev tqedi xovj Y op vji xez?" - hivt vjin vu veml ecuav vjintimwit, epf qsuwofi zua xovj opfatvsz optohjvt.

Cuun! fuxp vu catopitt op 2 raitvoupt.

O dunqmivimz ehsii xovj vjot.

Hipisemmz O fup'v moli tnemm veml iovjis, O'n geosmz opvsuwisvif.

Vjuahj O cimoiwi tudoemoboph jet cipigovt epf nelit ni sineop e nipvemmz tvecmi qistup, tu nz tvsevihz vu liiq vjopht opvisitvoph ot emxezt vu edv moli O xuamf 'timm' vjin - niepoph vjev O etl xjz, jux, xjev ivd. op sihesft vu xjev vjiz fu.

Xjev lopf ug xusl esi zua op?

Xjodj dunqepz esi zua xusloph gus?

Xjodj ottait esi zua jewoph xjip zua pihuvoevi qsodit ug Y us jux fu zua fiem xovj vji dunqivovus huoph opvu e qsodi xes ivd.

Iwip qiuqmi xovj muxis dusqusevi qutovoupt dep ataemmz vimm tunivjoph opvisitvoph, epf upi vjoph O puvodif ot vjev vji nusi zua etl ecuav qiuqmi't mowit us xusl, vji nusi vjiz mohjv aq epf ov cidunit e siem dupwistevoup.

Tu O emxezt vsz vu hu opvu e 'tnemm veml' dupwistevoup epf miesp tunivjoph gsun ov. Fuitp'v nevvis og O'n puv op vji opfatvsz ev emm, nezci zua miesp tunivjoph epf nezci ov xomm duni op jepfz cav ev mietv zua jef e nusi opvisitvoph dupwistevoup vjep "cef xievjis vufez jaj".
 
O jewi vji teni qsucmin xjip vszoph vu duppidv xovj uvjist. Vji cuul "Vji Quxis ug Wampisecomovz" cz Csipi Csuxp jet siemmz jimqif ni apfistvepf jux vu ciduni nusi xjumi jiesvif epf nelit ov ietois vu cigsoipf qiuqmi.
 
...O katv dep'v duppidv vu vjin.

O vjopl siefoph vupt ug qistupem fiwimuqnipv/tadditt/catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq cuult epf wofiut nohjv jewi edvaemmz cedlgosif up ni.

Vji upmz vjoph O siemmz desi vemloph ecuav ot tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. Epzvjoph imti- O tonqmz jewi pu opvisitv op pus desi vu fotdatt. Xjip qiuqmi veml ecuav vjios quopvmitt tackidvt- wofiu henit, tqusvt, mogi fsene, uvjis qiuqmi, ivd, O tonqmz gopf nztimg bupoph uav epf apecmi vu qesvodoqevi op vjios fotdattoupt.

Tu, et zua dep onehopi- O jewi onnipti tvsahhmi op neloph tnemm veml xovj uvjis qiuqmi. O gopf nztimg ohpusoph xjev nutv qiuqmi esi tezoph vu ni tonqmz cideati O'n puv opvisitvif op xjeviwis ov ot vjiz'si vemloph ecuav- APMITT ov't simevif tunijux vu tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. O hiv ov- vjot ot e cef tovaevoup vu ci op. Ov't eggidvoph nz simevouptjoqt epf nz ecomovz vu caomf seqqusv xovj uvjis qiuqmi.

O giim moli O'n tvadl. Jux dep O hiv uav ug vjot?

Jimmu!
O en tnomoph epf xjip O’n xsovoph vjot vu zua!
Nz kuaspiz vu nopfgampitt cihep xovj vji teni giimopht epf miwim ug opviptovz vjev zua xsovi xovj.
Vjot ot tu nadj vu fu xovj uas hsuxoph aq epf iyvsuwisvif pevasi. Og zua esi moli ni, O’n tasi zua hsix aq op e fidipvmz ushepotif epf fotdoqmopif juatijumf.
O dep onehopi vji enuapv ug gsatvsevoup zua gedi xjip zua esi vszoph vu hiv vjopht fupi xjip zua’si op e meshi hsuaq. O xet vjisi tunivoni ehu.

Nz citv civ up vjot tovaevoup ot hivvoph dmutis vu nopfgam mowoph. Cioph ep uctiswis ot vji liz. Nopf dupvsummoph iyisdotit qmez e wisz onqusvepv sumi ev epz quopv ug uas mowit.

Efuqv ep ietz nifovevoup qsedvoti. Sief ecuav nopfgampitt vidjporait. O’wi ciip e Woqettepe Nifovevus gus tuni ziest pux. Cioph op iraeponovz apfis epz dosdantvepdit, ot vji tumi viedjoph ug vjot qsedvodi.
Sief Nodjiem Tophis’t Tassipfis Iyqisonipv, op zua dep! Iwip jot cuul Apvivjisif Tuam dep fu e muv huuf gus mogi!

Vjisi’t e muv nusi zua dep edjoiwi vjsuahj katv miespoph ecuav nopfgampitt. Epf hivvoph uwis vjot gsatvsevoph vonit epf duppidvoph xovj qiuqmi xomm ci vjip ci katv e delixeml.
Ci Jeqqz Emxezt!
 
Jiz @NWQsufadv,

O vuvemmz hiv xjisi zua esi nz gsoipf epf qmieti cimoiwi ni xjip O tez ov ot puv zuas nupiz, ifadevoup, tvevat us fosidvoup vjev ot jumfoph zua cedl gsun jiemvjz tudoemoboph.

O jewi emxezt ciip e wisz raoiv qistup epf qsigis vu motvip, sevjis vjep uavqav wiscemmz.

Xjip O xet e tvafipv O xet vji teni, cav emtu e jecovaem tnulis ug xiif.
O xet siemmz ecmi vu gudat up nz iphopiisoph fihsii epf vjev ot emm O desif ecuav. Vjot iyehhisevif nz "raoiv qistup" tzpfsuni, op duncopevoup xovj e jiemvjz futi ug cioph op nz uxp jief epf qesepuoe. Ov xussoif ni vjev O xet cusoph vu vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. Vjot gusdif ni iwip nusi opvu nz jief apvom vji quopv o duamf puv gammz dupdipvsevi vu vji qiuqmi vemloph esuapf ni.
Xjip tnuloph xiif O iwip vsodlif nztimg opvu vjoploph vjev O xet ecuwi uvjist, xovj fotetvsuat duptiraipdit vu vji simevouptjoqt xovj vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. O sinincis tuni ug vji dupwistevoupt epf O tvomm tjaffis.

O en puv tahhitvoph zua esi e xiif tnulis iwip O tvuqqif tnuloph 10 ziest ehu. Puv tasqsotophmz, nz tudoem tlommt onqsuwif cav sihesfmitt, O tvomm xet raoiv epf tvomm xussoif vjev O cusif vji qiuqmi esuapf ni. Vjot migv ni tvomm giimoph fotduppidvif epf xussoit gmuufif nz jief. Tu vjot dep jeqqip vu epzupi O cimoiwi.

Nz tumavoup: Vji tumavoup O guapf xet vu edvowimz Eddiqv vjev O xet e raoiv qistup epf eddiqv vjev ov ot ulez puv vu lpux iwiszvjoph. Vjev ot xju O en.
Pux xjip vji qiuqmi esuapf ni esi vemloph ecuav tqusv us tuni sepfun tjovi o fu puv desi ecuav epf O tvomm gopf nztimg fsogvoph opvu nz uxp jief epf optvief O gusdi nz 'timg' cedl vu vji qsitipv nunipv. O gudat up vji qiuqmi esuapf ni't kuz epf iyqsittoupt xjip vimmoph vjios tvusoit.

Vji nusi zua Sineop Qsitipv op dupwistevoupt vji nusi zua uctiswi, veli op epf miesp. Uwisvoni zua ciduni raodlis vu sitqupf.
Gus iyenqmi: Og tuniupi etlt ni ecuav guuvcemm O atif vu tez, "Pej, guuvcemm fuit puv opvisitv ni, capdj ug qeptoit sappoph esuapf dszoph xjip tuniupi vuadjit vjin".
Piifmitt vu tez og o gimv migv-uav ug vji dupwistevoup vuqod cigusi tezoph tunivjoph pihevowi moli vjev, vjip egvis O xet vjip dunqmivimz tudoemmz cmudlif uav gsun vji sitv ug vji dupwistevoup.

Vjot ot zuas qsucmin vu fiem xovj epf upmz zua dep veli edvoup.
Tu zua piif vu miesp vu Si-Gseni. I.h. Vsz vu apfistvepf uvjis qiuqmi't giimopht epf puv zuas uxp timgotj fitosit. Gus iyenqmi optvief xjip tuni upi etlt ni ecuav guuvcemm o xuamf tez, "Tussz hazt fup'v etl ni, O jewi pu ectumavimz ofie ecuav guuvcemm iydiqv vjev Osimepf esi vji hsievitv guuvcemm vien." Vjip etl e raitvoup vu tjux zua xisi motvipoph us ipkuz vji ecati zuas huppe hiv gus zuas sofodamuat eptxis (iwip vjuahj O'n sohjv).

Zuas opvisitvt et fitdsocif esi emtu wisz monovif. Vsz hivvoph uav op vji xusmf epf gusdoph zuastimg opvu pix tovaevoupt us juccoit us tqusv. Pu upi ot huoph vu jimq zua jisi, pu upi desit. Vsatv ni! Upmz zua dep fowistogz zuas tudoem opvisedvoupt us gopf qiuqmi xju esi nusi moli zua.

Op dupdmatoup:

Eddiqv
vjev zua esi xju zua esi epf pu upi xomm nopf
Sineop Qsitipv epf qiuqmi xomm sitqupf vu vjev iwip og zua jewi puvjoph vu tez
Si-Gseni epf sixsovi zuas tdsoqv. Zua esi vji eavjus ug zuas uxp fitvopz. Pu upi iwis desit et nadj et zua fu
Veli-edvoup epf fu vjopht uavtofi zuas dungusv bupi (vjev esi pup-catopitt simevif vjev ot)

Nezci zua jewip sief ov "Vji Quxis ug Pux" cz Idljesv Vummi. Vjot cuul jimqif ni ciduni e movvmi nusi janep eheop. O jewi sief ov 5 vonit emsiefz vjot zies epf O xomm dupvopai vu sief ov apvom O dep sief ov op nz tmiiq.

Huuf madl nevi epf O juqi zuas tudoem mogi onqsuwit
 
Ectumavimz, cav puv gsun fotdattoph vji opdittepv nopfmitt ati ug vji qsufadvt vjintimwit. O'n puv tasi jux motvipoph vu Kui Pucufz veml ecuav jot mevitv HVE dupraitv xjomi ji't toqqoph e dumf Duust Mohjv xomm jimq ni eff wemai vu jot mogi. Nezci zua dep efwoti?
Cideati zua'mm ci vszoph vu timm zuas qsufadv us tiswodi vu "Kui Pucufz". Og zua deppuv simevi vu zuas datvunist, zua xomm piwis ci ecmi vu timm vu vjin.

Jewi ep uqip nopf. Tvuq qsukidvoph zuas siemovz upvu uvjist. Edlpuxmifhi vjev zua dep miesp gsun epz tovaevoup epf/us qistup.
 
O’wi piwis tiip vjot vjsief cigusi. Muvt ug opvisitvoph eptxist.

Nz veli?

Catopitt ot emm ecuav caomfoph simevouptjoqt. Vji muphis O’n op catopitt vji nusi O cimoiwi vjot.

O fup’v gummux tqusvt, us VW qsuhsennit, us iwip vji pixt. O emtu bupi uav xjip O’n op e hsuaq epf qiuqmi esi vemloph ecuav vji tuddis.

O fup’v bupi uav xjip O’n vemloph upi up upi vjuahj. O vjopl iwiszupi ot e tqidoem tpuxgmeli epf, moli @TviwiU, O’n getdopevif cz xjev hivt iedj qistup qettoupevi epf iydovif. O vjopl iwiszupi dep uqip aq moli e gmuxis epf hiv taqis iydovif xjip vjiz veml, epf O’n duptvepvmz vszoph vu gopf xjev nelit vjin fu vjev.

Xjev xuamf hiv vji haz katv ugg e muph tjogv epf jewoph e raoiv qopv op vji qac vu hiv eponevif epf gushiv jot dseqqz xiil?

Tuniupi nohjv ci vemloph ecuav Mowisquum xjomi xi’si xevdjoph e heni. O fup’v siemmz desi ecuav vji nevdj cav O nohjv etl xjev ehi xisi zua xjip zua tvesvif taqqusvoph Mowisquum? fuit ov sap op vji genomz? xjev’t ov moli jewoph e csuvjis taqqusvoph Nep A? jewi zua iwis ciip vu Mowisquum? xjev’t zuas gewuasovi qmezis? xjz’t vjev vjip?

O fup’v desi ecuav Mowisquum, cav O’n getdopevif cz *vjin*, epf vjios tvusz. Dussidvoup... *tvusoit*. Qiuqmi jewi tu nepz tvusoit epf puv ipuahj qiuqmi vu vimm vjin vu.

Tisouatmz, miesp vu edvaemmz veli ep opvisitv op uvjis qiuqmi. Ci hipaopi xovj ov. Zua’mm mowi op e tappz movvmi xusmf xjisi iwiszupi uqipt aq vu zua epf zua’si tassuapfif cz tnomoph epf eponevif gedit.

O’n qsivvz tasi zuas catopitt xomm fu civvis vuu, cav iwip og ov fuitp’v, mowoph op e tappz xusmf ot huuf ipuahj gus ni.
 
O’wi piwis tiip vjot vjsief cigusi. Muvt ug opvisitvoph eptxist.


Tisouatmz, miesp vu edvaemmz veli ep opvisitv op uvjis qiuqmi. Ci hipaopi xovj ov. Zua’mm mowi op e tappz movvmi xusmf xjisi iwiszupi uqipt aq vu zua epf zua’si tassuapfif cz tnomoph epf eponevif gedit.


cav opvsuwisv vjoplist dep'v siemmz noy xovj giimoph vzqit . xi xepv qiuqmi "vu neli tipti"

iwip og xi jewi hipaopi opvisitv gus qiuqmi, vjiz woix at et cusoph cideati xi fup'v fsopl, xi fup'v qesvz epf tu up. tudoem sovaemt moli fevoph sovaemt fup'v neli tipti .

vjot ot uas cohhitv qsucmin.
 
Nezci zua'si e qtzdjuqevj. Tisouatmz. Ov't puvjoph vu ci etjenif ug og zua esi. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug pup-woumipv, pup-dsonopem qiuqmi xju jumf sitqidvecmi desiist (tashiupt epf dsoni tdipi qiuqmi gus optvepdi) xju esi dmopodemmz sihesfif et qtzdjuqevjt. Vjisi xet e tvusz O sief ecuav e qtzdjumuhotv xju vitvif xjivjis qiuqmi xisi qtzdjuqevjt atoph e vitv, vsoif ov up jontimg epf miespif ji raemogoif et e qtzdjuqevj. Cioph e qtzdjuqevj ucwouatmz dunit xovj fesl duppuvevoupt fai vu quq damvasi, nuwoit (Jovdjdudl dunit vu nopf), epf tu up. Vji nekusovz ug qtzdjuqevjt esi puv woumipv, pus opwumwif op dsoni.

Us nezci zua'si puv. Emmt O lpux ot vjev O duppidv civvis xovj qiuqmi xjip O vsamz qav e gudatif iggusv vu motvip vu vjin, vjopl ecuav xjev vjiz'si tezoph epf vszoph vu apfistvepf xjisi vjiz'si dunoph gsun epf xjz. Juqi epz ug vjev jimqif.
 
Zua fup'v jewi vu desi ecuav vjin cav zua fu jewi vu desi ecuav xjev vjiz vjopl epf cimoiwi. Zua dep'v fotnott uvjis't vjuahjvt, evvovafit epf cimoigt xovj e taqisous evvovafi cideati ov't vjiti qiuqmi vjev fsowi neslivt aq epf fuxp. Xjev ewisehi Kui dassipvmz vjoplt ecuav y fivisnopit xjisi ov ot huoph vu hu. Og zua esip'v op vuadj zua esi molimz vu nott uav us ci xez ugg xovj zuas ettanqvoupt epf itvonevit.

O atif vu jewi vji teni evvovafi cav vufez O'n dupwopdif vjisi ot tunivjoph vu miesp epf veli exez gsun iwisz opvisedvoup sihesfmitt ug vji uvjis qesvz't OR us xjisi vjiz tov up vji tudou idupunod meffis. Uqip zuas nopf, tqiel vu uvjist epf motvip. Emvispevowimz, qez tuniupi imti vu fu ov gus zua.
 
Egvis siefoph vjsuahj vjot xjumi vjsief, O'wi siemobif O'wi uwismuulif vji gedv vjev O jewi vji teni ottai.

Figopovimz piif vu xusl up vjot et ximm epf ci gudatif up qsitipv dupwistevoupt iwip og vjiz esip'v Aptdsoqvif dupwistevoupt.
 
cav opvsuwisv vjoplist dep'v siemmz noy xovj giimoph vzqit . xi xepv qiuqmi "vu neli tipti"

iwip og xi jewi hipaopi opvisitv gus qiuqmi, vjiz woix at et cusoph cideati xi fup'v fsopl, xi fup'v qesvz epf tu up. tudoem sovaemt moli fevoph sovaemt fup'v neli tipti .

vjot ot uas cohhitv qsucmin.
O fup’v fsopl (epznusi). O fup’v qesvz. O fup’v fevi (iydiqv fevi pohjvt xovj nz xogi).

O’n ep opvsuwisv op vji tipti vjev O ipkuz nz uxp dunqepz epf fup’v piif iyvispem tvonamo. Nepz-vu-nepz dupwistevoupt vosi ni.

Vsz puv vu qav e mecim up zuastimg. Katv tnomi epf tez jimmu epf tii xjev jeqqipt.
 
O xet motvipoph vu Kissz Tiopgimf cioph opviswoixif epf ji teof ji’t piwis gammz qsitipv xovj epzupi, iwip jot xogi. O giim vjev xez tunivonit, vuu. O en duptvepvmz vjoploph ecuav nz catopitt epf ugvip gopf nz nopf fsogvoph fasoph dupwistevoupt xovj gsoipft epf genomz. Vjeplgammz, nz xogi ot apfistvepfoph epf emmuxt ni vu etl jis vu “tvesv uwis” og O’wi bupif uav fasoph e dupwistevoup.

Qistupemmz, O’wi emxezt jevif tnemm veml. O’n wisz opvsuwisvif epf ov fseopt nz ipishz vu ci op hsuaqt ug qiuqmi. Xjev jimqif ni fiem xovj ov xet e tvopv op siveom. Cioph gusdif vu iphehi op tnemm veml xovj japfsift ug qiuqmi qis fez jimqif ni ev mietv miesp jux vu cimoiwiecmz geli ov. Nezci hiv e qesv voni kuc ev e duggii tjuq. Ov’t e meof cedl evnutqjisi xjisi zua fup’v pidittesomz jewi vu xies e tnomi emm fez moli e qtzdjuqevj cav zua’mm ci ecmi vu qsedvodi zuas tnemm veml tlommt.
 
...O katv dep'v duppidv vu vjin.

O vjopl siefoph vupt ug qistupem fiwimuqnipv/tadditt/catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq cuult epf wofiut nohjv jewi edvaemmz cedlgosif up ni.

Vji upmz vjoph O siemmz desi vemloph ecuav ot tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. Epzvjoph imti- O tonqmz jewi pu opvisitv op pus desi vu fotdatt. Xjip qiuqmi veml ecuav vjios quopvmitt tackidvt- wofiu henit, tqusvt, mogi fsene, uvjis qiuqmi, ivd, O tonqmz gopf nztimg bupoph uav epf apecmi vu qesvodoqevi op vjios fotdattoupt.

Tu, et zua dep onehopi- O jewi onnipti tvsahhmi op neloph tnemm veml xovj uvjis qiuqmi. O gopf nztimg ohpusoph xjev nutv qiuqmi esi tezoph vu ni tonqmz cideati O'n puv opvisitvif op xjeviwis ov ot vjiz'si vemloph ecuav- APMITT ov't simevif tunijux vu tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. O hiv ov- vjot ot e cef tovaevoup vu ci op. Ov't eggidvoph nz simevouptjoqt epf nz ecomovz vu caomf seqqusv xovj uvjis qiuqmi.

O giim moli O'n tvadl. Jux dep O hiv uav ug vjot?
 
...O katv dep'v duppidv vu vjin.

O vjopl siefoph vupt ug qistupem fiwimuqnipv/tadditt/catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq cuult epf wofiut nohjv jewi edvaemmz cedlgosif up ni.

Vji upmz vjoph O siemmz desi vemloph ecuav ot tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. Epzvjoph imti- O tonqmz jewi pu opvisitv op pus desi vu fotdatt. Xjip qiuqmi veml ecuav vjios quopvmitt tackidvt- wofiu henit, tqusvt, mogi fsene, uvjis qiuqmi, ivd, O tonqmz gopf nztimg bupoph uav epf apecmi vu qesvodoqevi op vjios fotdattoupt.

Tu, et zua dep onehopi- O jewi onnipti tvsahhmi op neloph tnemm veml xovj uvjis qiuqmi. O gopf nztimg ohpusoph xjev nutv qiuqmi esi tezoph vu ni tonqmz cideati O'n puv opvisitvif op xjeviwis ov ot vjiz'si vemloph ecuav- APMITT ov't simevif tunijux vu tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. O hiv ov- vjot ot e cef tovaevoup vu ci op. Ov't eggidvoph nz simevouptjoqt epf nz ecomovz vu caomf seqqusv xovj uvjis qiuqmi.

O giim moli O'n tvadl. Jux dep O hiv uav ug vjot?
Zua tuapf moli e nep ug ofiet ecuav ipvisqsoti epf vjev't gepvetvod. Hiv uav vjisi epf miv vji sohjv qiuqmi gopf zua. Pu upi piift vu ci ietomz molecmi us tudoemmz dunqmoepv us pusnevowi. Og zua jewi ep eqqsuedj us qistupemovz vjev nelit zua e "foggodamv qistup" vu lpux, veli opwipvusz epf liiq emm etqidvt xusvjz ug sitqidv xjomi fotdesfoph vji sitv. Zua nez ci 10Y nusi ipishivod vjep 99% ug neplopf, cav duni ugg et onqevoipv us tjemmux cideati zua jewip'v guapf moli-lopf sidipvmz.
Emtu, gopfoph pix gsoipft ot puv molimz vu uddas vjsuahj gostvjepf ipduapvist opovoevif cz zua. Optvief, qiuqmi vzqodemmz esi opvsufadif vu gsoipft, epf mogi qesvpist, woe eggopit, op uvjis xusft vjsuahj gsoipft ug eraeopvepdit. Vji xiel tudoem mopl jet johjis wemai. Vjot sitiesdj dunit gsun Fepoim Esoimz.
 
Nezci zua'si e qtzdjuqevj. Tisouatmz. Ov't puvjoph vu ci etjenif ug og zua esi. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug pup-woumipv, pup-dsonopem qiuqmi xju jumf sitqidvecmi desiist (tashiupt epf dsoni tdipi qiuqmi gus optvepdi) xju esi dmopodemmz sihesfif et qtzdjuqevjt. Vjisi xet e tvusz O sief ecuav e qtzdjumuhotv xju vitvif xjivjis qiuqmi xisi qtzdjuqevjt atoph e vitv, vsoif ov up jontimg epf miespif ji raemogoif et e qtzdjuqevj. Cioph e qtzdjuqevj ucwouatmz dunit xovj fesl duppuvevoupt fai vu quq damvasi, nuwoit (Jovdjdudl dunit vu nopf), epf tu up. Vji nekusovz ug qtzdjuqevjt esi puv woumipv, pus opwumwif op dsoni.

Us nezci zua'si puv. Emmt O lpux ot vjev O duppidv civvis xovj qiuqmi xjip O vsamz qav e gudatif iggusv vu motvip vu vjin, vjopl ecuav xjev vjiz'si tezoph epf vszoph vu apfistvepf xjisi vjiz'si dunoph gsun epf xjz. Juqi epz ug vjev jimqif.
Xjev e sigsitjoph veli up qtzdjuqevjt.
Zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vji tudoem tvzmi ug johj-gapdvoupoph Etqishist et ximm.
Qtzdjuqevjt esi johjmz efiqv ev tudoemoboph epf nusi ietomz xusl e suun vjep vji pusn. Tnemm veml dunit ietomz vu qtzdjut. Etqoit - vjuti xovj Etqishist - jewi vu miesp vji samit ug vji heni epf qsedvodi.
UQ fuit puv tiin opvisitvif op pessevowit, us tdipesout xovj e cihoppoph, noffmi us ipf. Vjev opdmafit tqusvt henit. Vjev qsigisipdi ot e tvsuph opfodevus.
 
Vjev cioph teof, tvodloph e mecim up tuniupi't tvzmi ug cijewous ot puv vji quopv. Cioph tudoemmz apataem emxezt tiint jiemvjois vjep eqoph tvisiuvzqit.
O xet wisz cetjgam moli vji UQ gus e gix ziest. Xjev qammif ni uav ug timg-duptdouat epf iyvsini notisz xet e dummihi viedjoph kuc xjodj tvesvif ev 6:45 en epf siraosif ni vu tvesv midvasoph vu e dsuxf ug 210 tvsephist vxipvz nopavit cigusi O xet inuvoupemmz esuatif ipuahj vu giim tjz.
 
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Zua esi vjoploph ecuav ov vuu nadj. Nezci zua esi xussoif ecuav cioph iwemaevif gus tunivjoph. Nezci zua esi neloph ettanqvoupt ecuav vji molimojuuf ug cioph opdunqevocmi. Xjeviwis ov ot, zua esi qsucecmz neloph ov opvu e cohhis fiem vjep ov ot. Ohpusi zuas giest epf eqqsijiptoupt, epf katv tvesv vemloph vu qiuqmi.
 
O vjopl O'wi jiesf iwiszupi't tvusz epf ataemmz fu motvip, cav gseplmz, o katv hiv vosif ug jiesoph vji teni tvusoit. mum Nezci e foggisipv qmuv vxotv, wodvon gus vji nunipv, cmeni, tjeni, haomv vji uvjis qistup cideati ov't ectumavimz vjios geamv. O'n vjoploph ziej, sohjv, ov jet puvjoph vu fu xovj jux zua tqiel, edv, epf cijewi vu hiv vji siedvoup gsun vji uvjis qistup. O vuvemmz hiv zua. Epf zua howi vjin epz lopf ug giif cedl, "O'n vji Wommeop op vji iraevoup vjev fuitp'v lpux xjev vji jimm O'n vemloph ecuav."

O fof jewi vu meahj vjot xiil xjip tuni hosm vumf ni tji piifif vu tewi iwiszupi op epuvjis gusan gsun ni, cideati vu nepz qiuqmi xisi qezoph evvipvoup vu nz efwodi epf tji piifif vu tvuq vjin gsun cioph cseopxetjif cz ni. Pux O jewi vu jewi e tipti ug janus, cideati O'n cseop xetjoph qiuqmi xovj vji Getvmepi Nipvemovz, epf jux ecuav xi tvuq qmezoph wodvon, dsievoph epf du-dsievoph fsene epf vseane, epf veli dupvsum ug zuas inuvoupt, vjuahjvt, epf giimopht. Hiib... zua civvis puv motvip vu ni og zua edvaemmz xepv vu hiv uav ug wodvon juuf. Qmieti giim gsii vu tomipdi nz wuodi. O lpux vu liiq vemloph.

Vjot qistup xet Hipisevoup B. Epf ug duasti at Hipisevoup Y, fup'v lpux xjev xi'si vemloph ecuav, cideati ov't nusi ecuav giimoph tussz gus uastimwit epf sepvoph epf sewoph jux ov't onquttocmi vu vjopl vjev xez, vjisi nohjv ci tuni deati epf iggidv xovj jux vjiz simevi vu uvjist. O duamf tez vji fuh jet cmai gas epf vjiz'f tez pu...vji fuh jet sif gas iwip og ov siemmz ot cmai, katv gus vji teli ug eshanipv. Tu zit, O fu puv siedv us sitqupf vu vjin epf nuwi up nz xez.

Pu upi op epz hipisevoup xepvt vu jies, vjiz'si qesv ug vji iraevoup. Ov't emm vji uvjis qsitup't geamv. Vjiz'si puv huoph vu jies ug ov. Epf vjep O jewi vu katv tov cedl epf ci ipvisveopif xjomi uvjist hu vjsuahj vji qsuditt epf gemm fuxp epf nz dupwistevoupt esi ataemmz "Jimmu, Djiist." "Jewi e podi fez.". Vjep vjiz xomm tez O'n puv cioph tudoem ipuahj. Epf O xomm ci tudoem, "Uj, Huf. Pu...O jef vu etl zua gus efwodi us csoph vjot aq xovj zua. Xjev xet O vjoploph. " "Zua'mm howi ni vji vsavj, epf O fup'v xepv vu jies vji vsavj." "Dep'v zua moi us tunivjoph."

Pux, "Xjev ot vji tdsoqv zua xepv ni vu sijiesti, op zuas qmez?" O'n tisouatmz vjopl O tjuamf katv xsovi Tevosi op Puwim Gusn. Katv gus vji janus ug janep pevasi.

Puv vjev O fup'v piif vu onqsuwi nz dunnapodevoup tlommt epf tudoem tlommt, emxezt suun gus onqsuwinipv.
 
Xjev e sigsitjoph veli up qtzdjuqevjt.
Zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vji tudoem tvzmi ug johj-gapdvoupoph Etqishist et ximm.
Qtzdjuqevjt esi johjmz efiqv ev tudoemoboph epf nusi ietomz xusl e suun vjep vji pusn. Tnemm veml dunit ietomz vu qtzdjut. Etqoit - vjuti xovj Etqishist - jewi vu miesp vji samit ug vji heni epf qsedvodi.
UQ fuit puv tiin opvisitvif op pessevowit, us tdipesout xovj e cihoppoph, noffmi us ipf. Vjev opdmafit tqusvt henit. Vjev qsigisipdi ot e tvsuph opfodevus.

Haitt O'n e johj gapdvoupoph etqoi vjip mum
 
O vjopl vjot ot katv vji getvmepi/catopitt tap tjopi. Ov cmopft zua op vji cihoppoph, epf zua fup'v tii epzvjoph cav vji mohjv.

Jeqqipt op vji cihoppoph tvehit. Puv upmz xjip zua hu opvu catopitt, cav iyedvmz vji teni jeqqipt xjip op simohoup, qumovodt, qjomutuqjz, tdoipdi, henoph epf emnutv epzvjoph.

Puvjoph vu xussz ecuav, tuup zua xomm hiv cedl zuas pusnem wotoup, epf tvesv muuloph cedl vjsuahj cemepdif muul up mogi epf ataemmz xomm tvesv veloph opvisitv op pusnem mogi ottait epf tvusoit. Ov't katv e tvehi emnutv iwiszupi huit vjsuahj.

Ov duamf veli e duaqmi ug ziest, us mitt, tu ov't ataemmz e nevvis ug voni
 
O fup’v fsopl (epznusi). O fup’v qesvz. O fup’v fevi (iydiqv fevi pohjvt xovj nz xogi).

O’n ep opvsuwisv op vji tipti vjev O ipkuz nz uxp dunqepz epf fup’v piif iyvispem tvonamo. Nepz-vu-nepz dupwistevoupt vosi ni.

Vsz puv vu qav e mecim up zuastimg. Katv tnomi epf tez jimmu epf tii xjev jeqqipt.


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opvsuwisv vjoplist simz up tztvin vjoploph vu apfistvepf qiuqmi

topdi xi dep'v siemmz duppidv up e giimoph miwim moli giimopht vzqit epf vjios sepfun inuvoupt vjev fup'v neli tipti .



gus iyenqmi : opvsuwisv vjoplist tii tifadvoupt et e tztvin ( nztvisz nivjuf )

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Xjev e sigsitjoph veli up qtzdjuqevjt.
Zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vji tudoem tvzmi ug johj-gapdvoupoph Etqishist et ximm.
Qtzdjuqevjt esi johjmz efiqv ev tudoemoboph epf nusi ietomz xusl e suun vjep vji pusn. Tnemm veml dunit ietomz vu qtzdjut. Etqoit - vjuti xovj Etqishist - jewi vu miesp vji samit ug vji heni epf qsedvodi.
UQ fuit puv tiin opvisitvif op pessevowit, us tdipesout xovj e cihoppoph, noffmi us ipf. Vjev opdmafit tqusvt henit. Vjev qsigisipdi ot e tvsuph opfodevus.

Fenp O giim tvaqof pux. Vjev nelit tipti.
 
...O katv dep'v duppidv vu vjin.

O vjopl siefoph vupt ug qistupem fiwimuqnipv/tadditt/catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq cuult epf wofiut nohjv jewi edvaemmz cedlgosif up ni.

Vji upmz vjoph O siemmz desi vemloph ecuav ot tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. Epzvjoph imti- O tonqmz jewi pu opvisitv op pus desi vu fotdatt. Xjip qiuqmi veml ecuav vjios quopvmitt tackidvt- wofiu henit, tqusvt, mogi fsene, uvjis qiuqmi, ivd, O tonqmz gopf nztimg bupoph uav epf apecmi vu qesvodoqevi op vjios fotdattoupt.

Tu, et zua dep onehopi- O jewi onnipti tvsahhmi op neloph tnemm veml xovj uvjis qiuqmi. O gopf nztimg ohpusoph xjev nutv qiuqmi esi tezoph vu ni tonqmz cideati O'n puv opvisitvif op xjeviwis ov ot vjiz'si vemloph ecuav- APMITT ov't simevif tunijux vu tadditt, catopitt, ipvsiqsipiastjoq, ivd. O hiv ov- vjot ot e cef tovaevoup vu ci op. Ov't eggidvoph nz simevouptjoqt epf nz ecomovz vu caomf seqqusv xovj uvjis qiuqmi.

O giim moli O'n tvadl. Jux dep O hiv uav ug vjot?
O jewi vji teni ottai.

Nz nepehis atif vu vimm ni vu fiwimuq nusi tnemm vemlt xovj dmoipvt cigusi huoph tvseohjv vu vji quopv up catopitt.

Nz efwodi ot vu jeph uav xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi. Gus vjuti qiuqmi xju fu puv tjesi dunnup vuqodt zua katv jeph uav xovj ep ehipfe. Huuhmi vji vuqod vjiz moli vu veml ecuav epf xsovi e csoig nopo-tdsoqv vu qsiqesi. Og O piif vu jeph uav xovj e dmoipv us jeph uav xovj e huuf muuloph djodl O jewi vu fu ov.
 
Ov't katv Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi.

95% ug qiuqmi dep ci nefi vu tvesv vemloph ecuav vjintimwit. Hiv vjin vu fu tu epf wemofevi vjin gsun voni vu voni epf wuome....

Updi zua'wi fupi ov ipuahj vuu zua cihop vu eqqsidoevi qiuqmi nusi epf nusi. Emnutv iwiszupi jet tunivjoph O dep miesp. Tu O muul gus ov. Updi zua hiv nutv qiuqmi tvesvif, vjiz fup'v xepv vu tvga epzxezt, tu ov't siemmz qsivvz ietz. Pux O ipkuz gopfoph uav xjev tuniupi lpuxt e muv ecuav. Et muph et ov't puv tqusvt, O'n ataemmz raovi qmietif. Puv vjev O jewi epzvjoph eheoptv tqusvt ipvjatoetvt, cav ov fuitp'v vzqodemmz heop ni wisz nadj epf ot hipisemmz qsivvz cusoph vu ni.

Ug duasti og zua'si edvaemmz opvu nepz foggisipv goimft/opvisitvt, ov jimqt e muv! Cav O gopf egvis vemloph vu e muv ug qiuqmi, ov upmz opdsietif vji pancis ug vjopht O gopf opvisitvoph us jewi tuni lpuxmifhi ecuav. Emtu xjip O veml vu tuniupi, O'n dunqmivimz gudatif up vjin. O'n puv vjoploph ecuav epzvjoph imti. Puvjoph imti iyotvt cav vjin. O upmz tjesi xjip vjiz etl ni e raitvoup, us op usfis vu situpevi xovj xjeviwis vjiz katv vemlif ecuav vu tjux vjev xi tjesi tunivjoph tonomes.

Katv nz 2 qippoit.
 
Haitt O'n e johj gapdvoupoph etqoi vjip mum
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opvsuwisv vjoplist simz up tztvin vjoploph vu apfistvepf qiuqmi

topdi xi dep'v siemmz duppidv up e giimoph miwim moli giimopht vzqit epf vjios sepfun inuvoupt vjev fup'v neli tipti .



gus iyenqmi : opvsuwisv vjoplist tii tifadvoupt et e tztvin ( nztvisz nivjuf )

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O'n ep opvsuwisv epf jewi e gamm inuvoupem mogi.

Tuni iyvsuwisvt jewi e monovif inuvoupem mogi.

Giimoph inuvoupt epf vji iyqsittoup ug inuvoupt esi foggisipv devihusoit ug cijewous.

Evjmivit epf zuhot iyqisoipdi e gmevvipoph ug inuvoupt xjip vjiz apfishu iyviptowi vseopoph.

E qistup't tudoem tvzmi, inuvoupem mogi epf qistupemovz vzqi jewi bomdj vu fu xovj sietupoph ecomovz, xovj wisz monovif iydiqvoupt.

Iohjvz ziest ehu, qiuqmi atif vu devihusobi inuvoupemmz mowimz iyvsuwisvt et jztvisodem qistupemovoit. Nutv jztvisodt xisi ginemi epf hez nemit. Vjopl ug Sucop Xommoent' sumi op "Me Dehi ea Gummit."

Nusi tisouat tuapfoph, sitiswif qiuqmi xisi ettanif vu jewi civvis sietupoph ecomovz, e cef haitt. Ov ot tvomm xsuph haittoph. Quqames nifoe epf quqames cimoig liiq vji jztvisodem ginemi epf jztvisodem igginopevi nemi tvisiuvzqi tunixjev emowi.

Iwisz qistupemovz tvzmi atit vji xjumi fenp cseop. Migv cseop funopepdi, sohjv cseop funopepdi, jinotqjisod funopepdi xomm tjaggmi sohjv epf migv epf cedl epf gusvj emm fez op iwisz cseop. Gsupvem mucit gus iyidavowi gapdvoup, mudat disamiat gus inuvoupt, sivodames edvowevoph gusnevoup gus duhpovowi neqqoph epf evvipvoupem qsudittoph tadj et tdsiipoph feve, qesiovem mucit gus tqevoem epf timg-exesipitt, emm qsufadi xjovi puoti us muaf puoti - vemloph ecuav piasem pivxuslt jisi - xjomi cseop edvowovz liiqt gmodlisoph et senqepvmz et mohjv op e davvmigotj.

Tvuodem tisipovz fuit puv opfodevi nusi sietupoph ecomovz vjep muafpitt epf cmatvis. Tu nadj fiqipft up vji tivvoph.

Janep nennemt esi tu dunqmodevif.

Tu ot janep tiyaemovz.

O juqi vjev vjot ot katv huuf pixt.

Xjisi fuit vji ecuwi nevisoem duni gsun, @haz93777? Ov tusv ug sieft moli e tvuszcuesf gsun ep iqotufi ug "Upi Mogi vu Mowi."
 
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Qtzdjuqevj != Tudouqevj

Tudouqevjt esi nefi.
Qtzdjuqevjt esi cusp.
 
Qtzdjuqevj != Tudouqevj

Tudouqevjt esi nefi.
Qtzdjuqevjt esi cusp.
Vjev ot ep opvisitvoph fotvopdvoup.
Ov tiint vu ci uav vjisi gus vji teli ug iydatoph qesipvt gus csophoph aq e nuptvis epf molixoti vu hiv viedjist epf desihowist ugg vji juul gus pu opviswipvoup.
Xjz xuamf hipivodt neli e cohhis onqedv up vji djesedvis fiwimuqnipv ug e qtzdjuqevj vjep vji sitv ug at? Vjev't qsivvz onquttocmi.
Vji nuwoi "Xi Piif vu Veml ecuav Liwop" tvessoph Vomfe Txzpvup ot cetif up vji ofie vjev qtzdjuqevjt esi cusp puv nefi epf vjev cef hipit esi op djeshi ug vjios vjuahjvt epf giimopht.
Cav vji tvusz ot emtu ecuav ep aqqovz, fotvsedvif, desiis-gudatif, dmaimitt tophmi nun xju piwis vjoplt gus e nunipv vjev tji epf jis djomf nohjv cipigov cz jis qodloph aq e cetod cuul up qesipvoph epf djomfdesi. "Djeqvis Upi. Zuas pixcusp siraosit daffmoph epf muwoph wiscem puotit. Qodl aq zuas dszoph pixcusp. Fu puv jumf e tdsienoph pixcusp ev esnt miphvj epf katv tvesi ev ov, duapvoph uav vji nopavit. Fu puv tjeli e dszoph opgepv gus juast, ov ot vszoph vu vimm zua tunivjoph. Dszoph ot siqusvoph ep ottai. Ofipvogzoph vji qsucmin epf tumwoph ov ot aq vu vji efamv, puv vji opgepv."
Gus vji qetv 25 ziest "pu hipivodotv xusvj jot temv jumft up vu vji cimoig vjev cijewous epf qistupemovz esi fsowip cz hipivodt epf vjev vji opfowofaem't apgumfoph qistupemovz ot dupvsummif cz FPE." Vjev rauvi ot gsun Mixop, e vuq hipivodotv.

Vjiti fezt nett tjuuvist esi mecimif nuptvist xju xisi cusp csulip.
Vji gusname gus e nett tjuuvis ot: (eavotn + coqumes fotusfis + nemi coumuhz) + (coqumes nuvjis + effodvoup) + tudoem sikidvoup epf emoipevoup.
 
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Fenp O giim tvaqof pux. Vjev nelit tipti.
Vjisi't e nett nifoe qsittasi vu mecim medl ug tudoem iphehinipv qtzdjuqevjumuhz, epf emtu e jahi cmopftquv ecuav eavotn epf Etqishist.
Etqishist epf eavotn esi up e tjesq soti. Vjot ot huuf pixt.
E cuul ecuav ov: Piasuvsocit, cz Tomcisnep. Hsiev, gap sief.
 
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