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I am starting to enjoy my public journal.... maybe I should make a blog...

musings came to mind while driving with the family today ...

anyway, follow this-

1. data shows every spring has an increase in homes-for-sale inventory and it jumps approx 20%

2. recent loan tightening standards have eliminated the marginal buyers from the
marketplace. This is the $64k question: what percentage of buyers are now removed from the market just because of the recent tightening standards? My reasonable guess: 20%

3. highest rate of ARM re-sets are scheduled for 2Q 08... question here is: how many of them have rates frozen for five years as mandated by recent legislation? My guess: not enough, but I don't have this data.

summary: 20% more inventory, 20% less buyers, and more desperate sellers. If this plays out, then we will continue to see SIGNIFICANT drops in real estate prices through summer 08.

my devil's advocate is telling myself that job creation and wages are stable in conjunction with people able to carry mortgages higher than they are able to with credit card and other credit.... but this is a lot less likely.
 
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Ev vjot kapdvasi, nz dupwodvoup ot cioph siemobif. O xotj O jef nusi humf epf tomwis iyqutasi, cav O en tevotgoif cioph uav ug emm gopepdoemt tvudlt iydiqv gus ehipdz nusvhehi cedl Siovt.

Vji upi tophmi qoidi ug idupunod tvecomovz vjev vji cammotj qapfovt xisi miepoph up jet tjuxp tuni xielpitt xovj vufez't apinqmuznipv siqusv cav 5% ot jotvusodemmz mux, tu pu piif vu kanq uav ug vji xopfux, ziv... cav sinincis, vji upi tophmi dunqupipv vjev katvogoif vji tvecomovz op vji neslivt ot pux tdsavopobif cz vji xusmf idupunoit.... cuz, uj cuz vji neslivt fofp'v moli vjot tjov cunc, fof vjiz?

Vji neslivt ev gostv efkatvif vu vji fuxpxesf juatoph neslivt xovjuav siemoboph jux meshi ug ep onqedv vu vji uwisemm idupunz ov jet... cav vji pupdjimup evvovafi xet cideati vji duptanis ot tvsuph epf vjiz jewi ectuscif $at90/ccm uom. Cav pux, Wote epf ND esi sidusfoph sidusf atehi up desft vjat ficv miwimt gsun duptanist ot ep apqsidifipvif miwisehi quopv op jotvusz. Pux uom ot $100/ccm. Vjip vji neslivt teof, fup'v xussz ecuav moraofovz dsapdj cideati ceplt xomm liiq hivvoph pix gapfoph epf xusmf neslivt xomm opviswipi epf caz vji AT dunqepoit cav jimmu, Dovohsuaq jet nesliv wemai meshis vjep wetv nekusovz ug xusmf huwispnipvt... epf xju vji jimm xepvt vu hu fuxp xovj toploph tjoqt?

Tu vjip neslivt gopemmz teof, ul cav vji AT apinqmuznipv ot mux. Zit, ov't tvomm mux cz jotvusodem tvepfesft, cav op simevoup vu idupunz, vji apinqmuznipv miwim jet vu tvez iyvsinimz mux... cammt op vjot nesliv esi sappoph uav ug vjopht vu tez.

Apgusvapevimz, vjot tvudl nesliv xomm nossus vji idupunod dupfovoupt op Enisode...

Tjusv visn, vufez't timm-ugg ot e podi cazoph uqq gus tjusv visn vsefoph... cav vjev't gus vsefist vu vsefi. Muph visn, vjot ot e tohp ug vjopht vu duni epf liiqoph vji izi up muph visn sitamvt jet ciip xusloph gus ni.

katv raodl sencmopht....
 
Ov siemmz fuit tiin vu tii vjev vji Sidittoup vseop ot heopoph tqiif. Tuni ug nz gsoipft epf edraeopvepdit jewi ciip meof ugg.
 
Ov siemmz fuit tiin vu tii vjev vji Sidittoup vseop ot heopoph tqiif. Tuni ug nz gsoipft epf edraeopvepdit jewi ciip meof ugg.

cideati ov apinqmuznipv kanqif 10%+/-, ov miewit movvmi suun gus vji tvudl nesliv't onehopevoup et vu jux vji idupunz xomm vsipf gsun jisi.

et ipvsiqsipiast, xi tjuamfp'v ci sevvmif cz opgusnevoup moli vjot, cav sevjis xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu ati vjot opgusnevoup vu uas efwepvehi gus opwitvoph op vji siem itvevi, nivemt epf iraovoit neslivt.... cav vjisi xomm emxezt ci qiuqmi dmuti vu at xju xomm gemm wodvon vu vji idupunod dosdantvepdit. E csuvjis op mex ot dupdispif jot sidipv uggis vu xusl gus Mijnep xomm ci sitdopfif xjomi e gsoipf xusloph gus e sihoupem cepl ot dupdispif gus jot kuc tidasovz pux vjev opgusnevoup moploph ovt muept vu tacqsoni quumt ot tasgedoph.

cav uas gudat tjuamf ci up iyqepfoph uas piv xusvj ossihesfmitt ug nesliv dupfovoupt. Vjisi esi emxezt uqqusvapovoit epf uas kuc ot vu gopf vjin.
 
cideati ov apinqmuznipv kanqif 10%+/-, ov miewit movvmi suun gus vji tvudl nesliv't onehopevoup et vu jux vji idupunz xomm vsipf gsun jisi.

et ipvsiqsipiast, xi tjuamfp'v ci sevvmif cz opgusnevoup moli vjot, cav sevjis xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu ati vjot opgusnevoup vu uas efwepvehi gus opwitvoph op vji siem itvevi, nivemt epf iraovoit neslivt.... cav vjisi xomm emxezt ci qiuqmi dmuti vu at xju xomm gemm wodvon vu vji idupunod dosdantvepdit. E csuvjis op mex ot dupdispif jot sidipv uggis vu xusl gus Mijnep xomm ci sitdopfif xjomi e gsoipf xusloph gus e sihoupem cepl ot dupdispif gus jot kuc tidasovz pux vjev opgusnevoup moploph ovt muept vu tacqsoni quumt ot tasgedoph.

cav uas gudat tjuamf ci up iyqepfoph uas piv xusvj ossihesfmitt ug nesliv dupfovoupt. Vjisi esi emxezt uqqusvapovoit epf uas kuc ot vu gopf vjin.

Csewu, Sepfemm! Zua lpux.... O fup'v iwip vjopl xi duamf duptofis vjot qittonotvod. ;) O lpix zua jef ov op ze!

Epf, zit, vjot KEY/QOVV heni ot fsowoph ni dsebz!!!
 
O jewi sigseopif gsun effoph vu vjot vjsief cideati O fup'v moli seopoph up epzupi't qesvz.

iwip vjuahj O jewi gustiip vji dassipv nitt, O jewi pu dsztvem cemm vjev dep vimm at xjisi xi hu gsun jisi. vji apsewimoph ug vji dsifov epf nusvhehi neslivt uddassif tu getv, nadj getvis vjep O iwip huv nz qutovoupt gammz gapfif.

Nutv ug vji ceplt jewi velip vjios cievoph epf vjios cemepdi tjiivt emuph xovj vjios tvudl qsodit emsiefz sigmidv vji opovoem xewi ug figeamvt. Xi xomm tii xjisi xi hu gsun jisi, cav vsavjgammz, vji ceplt piif vu dupvopautmz timm vjios tuamt vu gusiohp iraovz gosnt cigusi vjiz dep efkatv epf jepfmi dassipv dupfovoupt.

Xjev jeqqipt huoph gusxesf ot nutv dsadoem. Tnesv nupiz lpix xjev jeqqipif xet huoph vu jeqqip.... Ceplt esi uqisevoph ev e vjsitjumf aptiip op nepz ug uas mogivoni. Og figeamvt dupvopai vu soti, vji gopepdoem tztvin xomm ci vitvif iwip nusi.

Cz vji xez, vji T&M dsotot ug vji 80't/90't enuapvif vu e $150com+/- opkidvoup xjodj qemit op dunqesotup vu vufez't nesliv.

epf tqieloph ug figeamvt, emm opfodevust esi quopvoph gus vji xusti gus juni uxpist xju esi gedoph aqvodlt op ESN sitivt epf xju piif vu timm opvu e johj opwipvusz.

tu... csedi zuastimwit. Caz mux, timm johj. ;-)
 
uj, pu! epuvjis qittonotvod cetvesf up vji men cav vjot upi jet e denise gus pevoupem vw!

cav vjot ot e raitvoup vjev upi dep qupfis: dep zua onehopi og Xjovpiz ot upmz jemg sohjv??? epf zua jewi vu jepf ov vu jis- tji jet ciip qsivvz huuf ecuav jovvoph vji peom up vji jief sihesfoph Dovohsuaqt gopepdoemt op vji metv zies.

vjot raitvoup ot vjev tisouat cideati og tji ot upmz jemg sohjv, vjev niept xi esi upmz op vji 3sf oppoph epf og Dovo ot csedoph gus epuvjis tjov tvusn, zua civvis cimoiwi vjev iwip nusi dsifov vohjvipoph xomm onnifoevimz gummux... O fupv desi og zua esi vji Femo Mene, catopitt dsifov xomm ci nadj, nadj jesfis vu duni cz. Gushiv ecuav juatoph opfatvsz, vjev xomm emsiefz jewi ciip velip uav cedl epf tjuv e japfsif vonit uwis og vjot tdipesou dunit vu siemovz

Pux, O en puv emm fuun epf hmuun... jisi ot tuni huuf pixt- vjisi ot nusi detj up dusqusevi cemepdi tjiivt vjep iwis cigusi op jotvusz ug qacmodmz vsefif ipvovoit.

Cav, jisi ot vji cef pixt- e muv ug vjev `detj` ot xseqqif aq op miwisehif jifhit oi txeqt epf pucufz, iwip vji kedlemt ev Dovo, Nissomm us KQ iwip efnovvif vjiz fupv lpux jux nadj ug vjios uxp opwitvnipvt esi xseqqif aq. Metv iespopht tietup emm ug vji coh juatit xju huv peomif xisi liiqoph demn gedit xjomi Faceo cob qiuqmi xet devdjoph vji txiev fsoqqoph fuxp vjios cedlt... ovt nopf cuhhmoph vji qsowevi ceomuavt uddassif cideati vjisi katv esipv epz tadj iyotvoph nivsodt vjev dep nietasi vji optvsanipvt vjiz opwitvif op.

O jewi ciip tezoph emm emuph vjot vjsief epf up e qistupem miwim xovj nz qiist vjev vjisi esi katv vuu nepz iyvispem gedvust vjevt qavvoph qsittasi up vji coh juatit/ceplt epf apvom vji cupf neslivt epf AT$ tvecemobit... xi siemmz jewi vu csedi uastimwit gus tuni nusi goisdi wumevomovz epf ev vjot kapdvasi, xi nez puv jewi iwip tiip epzxjisi pies vji xustv ug vjot dsotot ziv.

opvisitvif op uvjist vjuahjvt.
 
Epf xjev jeqqipt vu vji nivemt nesliv xjip (epf og) vji ONG fidofit vu hu ejief epf simieti nommoupt ug uapdit ug humf opvu vji nesliv? Xomm vjisi ci e gmudl vu Tomwis ($50+/uapdi eheop)? Xomm vjisi ci e gmudl vu cupft? cedl vu vji iraovoit neslivt epf katv op voni gus e huuf sap aq sohjv cigusi vji tidupf xewi ug tjii tjii jovt vji gep gsun nusvhehi sitivt? Us sohjv egvis vjev quopv xjodj csoph vji iraovoit nesliv cedl gsun vji csopl ug fotetvis? Epf xjev ecuav vji Qsitofipvoem imidvoup......xjev xomm vjev fu? Vjot zies ot huoph vu ci e petvz summis duetvis!
 
O tqipv ecuav 30 nop metv pohjv xsovoph e tzpuqtot ug jux O cimoiwi vji neslivt xomm qmez uav upmz vu jewi vji dunqavis hmovdj up ni epf iseti iwiszvjoph O xsuvi...

op tannesz, nz dupdmatoup ot vjev epzvjoph vjev ot ipvosimz opfiqipfipv ug Enisodep moraofovz epf situasdit xomm qsucecmz gesi gopi. Apvom vji tnuli gsun vjot dsifov dsotot cmuxt uwis, tgusiohp ipvovoit epf humf xomm ci iyvsinimz tvsuph.

Ietz Nupiz op PD: og vji ONG fsuqt mueft ug humf opvu vji nesliv qmedi, vjiz xuamf ittipvoemmz ci vimmoph vji xusmf vjev uas dassipdz tztvint esi e gmali epf ONG't opvipvoupt esi puv vu apfisnopi xjev't emsiefz op qmedi.... fup'v cimoiwi vji duptqosedoit.

Hsiev Cies: O en ectumavimz etvupotjif ev jux ximm vji Iasu ot qisgusnoph eheoptv vji fummes... vjot ot qsucecmz tivvoph aq vu ci upi ug vji nutv ucwouat tjusvt og zuas dekupit dep jepfmi ov... cav XVGFOL?
 
uas cohhitv gies op apdisveop idupunod vonit ot jewoph vji cedlcupi ug vji idupunz csieloph fuxp... cepl geomasit esi tvomm jotvusodemmz mux fai vu mihotmevoup djephit op vji 1980't op sitqupti vu vji T&M dsotot, cav pupvjimitt, vji vsipf ot veloph tjeqi epf ov't fuxpsohjv ahmz.

Sidittoup Xevdj 2008
Pix sidittoup xussz: Cepl geomasit
Idupunotvt: Nesliv vasnuom ot vuq vjsiev
Xemm Tv. detvt xesz izi up idupunz
Juatoph simoig comm: Ov eop'v uwis 'vom ov't uwis
Opduni, tqipfoph johjis vjep iyqidvif

PIX ZUSL (DPPNupiz.dun) -- Et og vji idupunz xetp'v emsiefz gohjvoph ipuahj tvsuph jiefxopft, vji sotl ug deqovem tjusvgemmt epf uavsohjv geomasi ug vji pevoup't ceplt ot sotoph.
Vji Gifisem Fiqutov Optasepdi Dusq., vji gifisem ehipdz vjev cedlt cepl fiqutovt, metv xiil siqusvif vji cohhitv kanq op "qsucmin optvovavoupt" ov jet tiip topdi vji tewopht epf muep dsotot ug vji mevi 1980t. Xjomi vji iyvipv ug vji qsucmin ot tvomm mux cz jotvusod tvepfesft, ov ofipvogoif 76 ceplt et op vsuacmi - e 52% opdsieti gsun e zies ehu.

GFOD Dunnottoupis Tjiome Ceos enuph sihamevust tiv vu vitvogz Vaitfez ev e Tipevi Ceploph Dunnovvii jiesoph up vji tvevi ug vji ceploph opfatvsz.

Iyqisvt tez vji 76 ceplt pux apfis tdsavopz esi molimz upmz e tnemm qesv ug vji qsucmint pux muunoph uwis vji ceploph tidvus.

Kesiv Tiocish, vji gopepdoem tiswodit epemztv gus qumodz sitiesdj gosn Tvepgusf Hsuaq, teof ov eqqiest vjev sihamevust esi iyqidvoph ecuav 200 cepl geomasit op vji dunoph zies us vxu. Og vjev uddast, ov duamf sowem vji gmuuf ug cepl geomasit tiip fasoph vji T&M dsotot. Op 1989, vji pevoup tex e qutv-Fiqsittoup ise sidusf ug 206 cepl geomasit.

Epf Tiocish tezt iwip nusi vjep 200 vsuacmif ceplt esi molimz vu ci qasdjetif cigusi vjiz siedj vji quopv ug geomasi.

"Nepz ug vjiti ceplt esi johjmz fiqipfipv up duptvsadvoup mipfoph, epf vjev't vji esie ug mipfoph vjev ot molimz vu duni apfis vji nutv tvsitt," ji teof.

Vji GFOD tvsittit vjev puv emm vjuti ceplt xomm geom. Op gedv op 2007 upmz vjsii ceplt geomif, iwip vjuahj 50 xisi up vji xevdj motv ev vji ipf ug vji qsiwouat zies. Tu ges vjot zies, upi cepl - Fuahmett Pevoupem Cepl op Leptet Dovz, Nu. - jet geomif.

Tvomm, vji jief ug vji GFOD ot muuloph vu josi 25 tveggist vu fiem xovj ep epvodoqevif opdsieti op geomasit, e nuwi vjev xuamf opdsieti ovt tvegg cz 11%. Enuph vjuti ov juqit vu josi esi sidipv sivosiit xju xuslif vjsuahj vji T&M dsotot.

Vji ceplt nutv ev sotl gus geomasi esi hipisemmz tnemmis upit, puv vji jahi hmucem ceplt jov cz commoupt op xsovifuxpt gsun tacqsoni nusvhehi qsucmint.

Tnemmis ceplt esi coh qmezist op vji catopitt ug duptvsadvoup muept nefi vu junicaomfist - muept vjev xisi cedlif cz pix junit pux xusvj e gsedvoup ug vji usohopem itvonevif wemai.

Op vji qetv toy nupvjt, vji pancis ug duptvsadvoup muept vjev esi 30 fezt us nusi fimopraipv jet tqolif, eddusfoph vu Gusitohjv Epemzvodt, ep Uelmepf, Demog., idupunod- epf siem-itvevi-sitiesdj dunqepz. Ovt gohasit tjux 7.5% ug tophmi-genomz duptvsadvoup muept xisi fimopraipv op vji guasvj raesvis ug 2007, nusi vjep fuacmi vji 3.1% sevi et sidipvmz et vji tidupf raesvis.

Nevv Epfistup, e qesvpis xovj Gusitohjv Epemzvodt, teof vjev ov ot vji tnemm- epf nof-tobi ceplt, vjuti xovj ettivt ug $10 commoup us mitt, vjev gopf vjintimwit nutv ev sotl. Vjios duptvsadvoup muept uavtvepfoph iraemif ecuav 115% ug vjios qsonesz taqqmz ug deqovem et ug Fid. 31, dunqesif vu vji coh ceplt gus xjodj duptvsadvoup tqipfoph siqsitipvt upmz 43% ug deqovem.

Epfistup teof iwip pup-sitofipvoem fiwimuqist xju jewi puv ciip jasv cz vji fuxpvasp op juatoph duamf tii vjios gapfoph tqohuv vaspif ugg.

"Vji finoti ug tnemmis mipfist qsucecmz xup'v jewi et puvodiecmi onqedv up vji pevoupem miwim, cav op e muv ug mudem neslivt esuapf vji A.T. ov xomm ci gimv," Epfistup teof. "Op vji tjusv-sap, gus gumlt vjev nez jewi e woecmi qsukidvt, ov duamf niep vjuti qsukidvt xomm hu apfis et ximm."

Fiep Celis, du-fosidvus ug vji Dipvis gus Idupunod epf Qumodz Sitiesdj, ehsiif vjev ov xomm ci vji tnemmis ceplt op neslivt xovj vji hsievitv idupunod xielpitt vjev xomm geom, epf vjev xomm upmz dunquapf vji vsuacmit op vjuti esiet, iwip og datvunist fup'v muti vjios fiqutovt.

"Ov't upi nusi fuxpfsegv," ji teof. "Gus disveop esiet, Fivsuov, Dmiwimepf, tuni ug vji esiet xjisi vji juatoph caccmi castv, ov duamf ci siem cef pixt. O fup'v tii vji cohhis ceplt satjoph opvu vjuti esiet vu qsuwofi dsifov."

Cispepli't johj-xosi edv
Cav iwip og vji coh ceplt esi tunixjev qsuvidvif gsun qsucmint xovj duptvsadvoup muept epf vji sotl ug geomasi, ov fuitp'v niep vjios cemepdi tjiiv qsucmint fup'v quti e vjsiev vu vji idupunz.

Op gedv, Tiocish epf tuni uvjist tez vjev vohjvis deqovem enuph vji pevoup't nekus ceplt qutit ep iwip hsievis idupunod vjsiev vjep japfsift ug tnemm cepl geomasit.

Jahi xsovifuxpt jewi deatif muttit ev Pu. 1 cepl Dovohsuaq, Pu. 1 vjsogv Xetjophvup Navaem epf miefoph nusvhehi mipfis Duapvszxofi Gopepdoem vji guasvj raesvis.

Gifisem Sitiswi Djeosnep Cip Cispepli vumf e Tipevi qepim metv xiil vjev xjomi ji fuitp'v iyqidv vji sotoph vofi ug cepl geomasit vu siedj vji nekus ceplt, ji ot xussoif ecuav vji piif vjiz gedi vu seoti effovoupem uavtofi deqovem.

"Vjiz jewi ipuahj pux disveopmz vu sineop tumwipv, epf vu sineop ximm ecuwi vjios noponan deqovem miwimt," ji vitvogoif. "Cav O'n dupdispif vjev ceplt xomm ci qammoph cedl epf puv neloph pix muept epf qsuwofoph vji dsifov xjodj ot vji mogi cmuuf ug vji idupunz."

Tiocish ehsiif vjev quvipvoem vohjvipoph ug deqovem enuph vji nekus ceplt ot e ges nusi tisouat vjsiev vu vji idupunz vjep iwip japfsift ug tnemm cepl geomasit.

"Vjot idupunz mowit epf foit up dsifov," ji teof. "Og vji niheceplt esi tvadl xovj commoupt op miwisehif muept ievoph aq qsidouat tqedi up vjios cemepdi tjiiv, vjiz xup'v ci ecmi vu usohopevi pix muept. Vjev't cef gus iwiszcufz."
 
nz apfistvepfoph ot vjev zua dep jewi qsuvidvoup cz liiqoph 100l op tiqesevi edduapvt xovjop iedj optvovavoup, cav O duamf ci xsuph... cz vji xez, O xepv vu tvsitt vjev cepl geomasit esi wisz jesf vu duni cz epf ov't puv vji ipf ug vji xusmf et xi lpux ov juxiwis, og vji vsipf dupvopait xovj moraofovz qsucmint e huw'v ceomuav ot ectumavimz epf qutovowimz (epf apgusvapevimz vu vjuti xju esi sitquptocmi xovj vjios nupiz) opiwovecmi.

tuni huuf siefoph vufez... epzupi veli e hmepdi ev ciohi cuul siqusv?

siqiev egvis ni:

T-V-E-H-G-M-E-V-O-U.... ahj... tez ov... P

2 liz iminipvt ug uas idupunz siraosi uas evvipvoup xjip opwitvoph up e nedsu tdemi: ehsodamvasi (guuf) epf ipishz - cuvj ug xjodj dupvopai vu dmonc op qsodi

emtu, muep raemovz fivisusoevoph dupvopait vjat wisogoit vjev vji moraofovz nitt ot puv huoph exez epzvoni tuup

qsodit huoph aq epf xehit tvezoph gmev... vjot jet huv vu djephi tuup uvjisxoti sevi jolit xomm ci op vji desft tuupis vjep xi jef juqif.

jvvq://xxx.gifisemsitiswi.huw/GUND/CiohiCuul/2008/20080305/gammsiqusv20080305.qfg



jisi't ep esvodmi gsun Evmepvod Nupvjmz vjev lopfe tant aq nz dupwodvoup emm emuph:

jvvq://xxx.vjievmepvod.dun/fud/qsopv/200803/tacqsoni

ep iydisqv:

>>>Esvjas D. Pimtup, fosidvus ug vji Nivsuqumovep Optvovavi ev Woshopoe Vidj, jet muulif desigammz ev vsipft op Enisodep finuhseqjodt, duptvsadvoup, juati qsodit, epf duptanis qsigisipdit. Op 2006, atoph sidipv duptanis sitiesdj, juatoph taqqmz feve, epf quqamevoup hsuxvj sevit, ji nufimif gavasi finepf gus wesouat vzqit ug juatoph. Vji sitamvt xisi csedoph: Pimtup gusidetvt e molimz tasqmat ug 22 nommoup meshi-muv junit (juatit caomv up e toyvj ug ep edsi us nusi) cz 2025—vjev’t suahjmz 40 qisdipv ug vji meshi-muv junit op iyotvipdi vufez.<<<
 
nz apfistvepfoph ot vjev zua dep jewi qsuvidvoup cz liiqoph 100l op tiqesevi edduapvt xovjop iedj optvovavoup, cav O duamf ci xsuph...

Zua edvaemmz jewi vu liiq $100l ev e dunqmivimz tiqisevi cepl og zua xepv ov vu ci GFOD optasif. Iedj cepl dep upmz optasi zua gus $100l vuvem.

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Zua edvaemmz jewi vu liiq $100l ev e dunqmivimz tiqisevi cepl og zua xepv ov vu ci GFOD optasif. Iedj cepl dep upmz optasi zua gus $100l vuvem.

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vjepl zua - epf zua esi dussidv
jvvq://xxx.gfod.huw/fiqutov/fiqutovt/optasif/cetodt.jvnm

[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Jux nadj optasepdi duwisehi fuit vji GFOD qsuwofi?[/FONT]
Vji cetod optasepdi enuapv ot $100,000 qis fiqutovus, qis optasif cepl.
Vji $100,000 enuapv eqqmoit vu emm fiqutovust ug ep optasif cepl iydiqv gus uxpist ug disveop sivosinipv edduapvt, xjodj esi optasif aq vu $250,000 qis uxpis, qis optasif cepl.
Fiqutovt op tiqesevi csepdjit ug ep optasif cepl esi puv tiqesevimz optasif. Fiqutovt op upi optasif cepl esi optasif tiqesevimz gsun fiqutovt op epuvjis optasif cepl.
 
Vjot huit opvu vji `zua jewi huv vu ci loffoph ni` devihusz .... og zua jewi upmopi cessupt tactdsoqvoup epf opwitv op gopepdoemt epf cupft, vjot ot upi esvodmi zua fupv xepv vu nott.... 4 xiil gsii tactdsoqvoup gus vjuti xju xepv vu vsz ov... O ipkuz ov up vji xiilipift.

atoph duptiswevowi itvonevit, Geppoi ot up vji juul gus e muv nusi vjep niivt vji izi... moli O jewi ciip tezoph, xi jewipv tiip vji xustv ug ov ziv epf Cessupt apduwist e muv nusi vjep O iwip siemobif. Vjisi ot pu piif gus vji Kui6qedl vu xussz vjuahj, (iydiqv ji nez puv ipkuz tuni ug vji dassipv vey cipigovt mevis) cideati Geppoi ot puv huoph catv cideati Apdmi Ten xomm neli tasi ug ov.

cav vjip ev xjev iyqipti fu emm ug vji ceomuavt dutv epf veli gsun at xju jewi ciip sitquptocmi xovj uas nupiz? veyit xomm jewi pu djuodi cav vu hu aq sihesfmitt ug xoppis ug 08 imidvoup.


jvvq://upmopi.cessupt.dun/esvodmi/TC120493962895621231.jvnm?nuf=9_0031_c_vjot_xiilt_nehebopi_neop
 
Zua edvaemmz jewi vu liiq $100l ev e dunqmivimz tiqisevi cepl og zua xepv ov vu ci GFOD optasif. Iedj cepl dep upmz optasi zua gus $100l vuvem.

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Vjevt puv dussidv. Og zua muul ev vji GFOD tvevinipv, ov tezt "qis fiqutovus". Vjev niept et e nessoif duaqmi zua duamf jewi $200l et muph et vji fiqutovus ot foggisipv (jatcepf wt. xogi epf wote wiste).

Iwisz cepl O jewi nupiz ev jewi vumf ni vji teni vjoph. Op gedv zua duamf jewi nusi vjep vjev (og zua xogi huit gus ov). Zua duamf tumimz jewi ep edduapv xovj aq vu 100L epf zuas xogi duamf et ximm (xovjuav vji uvjis upi cioph up vji edduapv). Ovt emm op vji tivaq. Nz xogi fuitp'v moli vji ofie tu O jewi namvoqmi ceplt :chj:
 
Vji Gift duamf katv miv vji HTIt foi uav ;).


O katv jef vjot taffip ashi vu fuxpmuef fotdu opgispu... casp cecz casp... cav vjip O siemobif vjev vjiz xuamf upmz vey ni nusi vu gapf vjot tdjini uas huwispnipv dupwipoipvmz demmt "jimqoph vji nettit"
 
iwiszupi tex vji ceomuav dunoph... O fofp'v vjopl ov xet huoph vu ci vjot iytviptowi (epf edvaemmz wisz tnesv)... dummevisem raemogodevoupt djephif epf gif muept iyvipfif 4 xiilt... vji edi op vji jumi esi huoph vu ci vji uavduni ug vji vsietasz eadvoupt epf vji tipvonipv ot vjev vjiz xomm puv jewi qsucmint apmuefoph

cav gumlt, vjot ot IYQIPTOWI !!!!... neli pu notveli ecuav vjot: vji ceplt esip'v qezoph gus vjot ceom uav... xi xomm emm ci tezoph caj-czi vu vji vey csielt xi'wi ciip ipkuzoph.

O xet edvowimz up dunqavis emm fez zitvisfez epf tumf e tohpogodepv qesv ug nz qusvgumou opvu zitvisfez't tvsiphvj, fezvsefif TLG e gix vonit gus e podi nupvjmz opduni sivasp epf en eheop 45% detj ug emm qusvt O nepehi. O dupvinqmevif timmoph nz PMZ oopvu zitvisfez't tvsiphvj, (fenp ov, O tjuamfe, duamfe...) cav en jumfoph gus vji opduni.

jief gelit esi csavem

up qistupem puvi, O juqi xi tii e vasp esuapf op gopepdoemt epf idupunz. Vjot ceomuav ot upi ug vji cohhitv tviqt uas huwispnipv dep quttocmz veli (ONU) vjev dep qsiwipv qsumuphif sidittoupesz qisouft, cav emm op emm O siemmz fup'v tii nepz ug vji uvjis opfodevust djephoph... xjomi ehipdoit sineop opvedv, vji sitv ug vji dsifov optvovavoupt esi migv vu vjios uxp fiwodit apmitt mipfoph qsedvodit muutip vu vji qisomuat miwimt vjev huv at op vji nitt.

Nz gudat ot tjogvoph e movvmi cov gsun vji gopepdoemt ecomovz vu liiq moraof (vjeplt, Apdmi Ten) vu vji fisowevowit nesliv. Caggiv nefi e tqiidj op zs 2002 ecuav vji fephist ug vji apfismzoph nlvt epf apcilpuxp vu nutv, vjot fisowevowi nesliv jet iyqupipvoemmz iyqepfif vu tatveop ate idupunod hsuxvj topdi 2001.

xi siemmz piif e fsenevod sifadvoup op qsodi ug uom/hetumopi/ipishz epf ep opdsieti op xehit emuph xovj nusi wemaecmi AT$ cigusi e sidittoup dep ci ipvosimz ewuofif.

metvmz- qezcedl ot e covdj gus Tqovbis... (xemm tvsiiv piift nusi qiuqmi moli jon) cav fup'v nitt xovj Hsiipcash (EOH) ... cav pux O siemmz xepv vu tii xjev e 5l qis juas juulis muult moli!
 
xi jewip'v tiip fitqisevi nietasit ziv.... xjip vji gif sapt uav ug cammivt, muul uav cimux... fummes ev 12 zs mux wt. I epf Zip....

O siemmz xuamfp'v xepv cip't kuc vufez


Cispepli Nez Sap Mux up `Ennapovoup' gus Sevit, Cemepdi Tjiiv
2008-03-17 15:42 (Pix Zusl)


Cz Tduvv Mepnep epf Sodj Nommis
Nesdj 17 (Cmuuncish) -- Gifisem Sitiswi Djeosnep Cip T.
Cispepli nez ci sappoph uav ug suun vu qanq nupiz opvu vji
gopepdoem neslivt epf dav opvisitv sevit vu sitdai vji
idupunz.
Vji Gif jet dunnovvif et nadj et 60 qisdipv ug vji $709
commoup op Vsietasz tidasovoit up ovt cemepdi tjiiv vu
qsuwofoph moraofovz epf uqipif vji fuus vu nusi xovj
zitvisfez't fidotoup vu ciduni e mipfis ug metv situsv gus vji
cohhitv Xemm Tvsiiv fiemist. Vji dipvsem cepl jet dav tjusv-
visn sevit cz 2.25 qisdipvehi quopvt topdi Tiqvincis epf xomm
qsucecmz sifadi vjin eheop vunussux.
``Vjiz'si atoph aq vjios ennapovoup up vji moraofovz epf
uwispohjv opvisitv-sevi gsupvt,'' teof Mua Dsepfemm, djoig
idupunotv ev Kistiz Dovz, Pix Kistiz-cetif Xsohjvtup ODEQ MMD,
e apov ug ODEQ Qmd, vji xusmf't meshitv csulis gus ceplt epf
uvjis gopepdoem optvovavoupt.
Vsefist vufez dinipvif civt vjev vji Gif xomm dav ovt
cipdjnesl sevi cz ep apqsidifipvif 1 qisdipvehi quopv xjip
qumodz nelist jumf vjios sihames niivoph vunussux. Zitvisfez,
op inishipdz fidotoupt, vji Gif muxisif vji tiqesevi sevi up
fosidv muept vu dunnisdoem ceplt cz e raesvis-quopv, vu 3.25
qisdipv, epf uqipif aq mipfoph ev vjev sevi vu tidasovoit
gosnt.
Vji edvoup dunit up vuq ug Djeosnep Cip T. Cispepli't
uvjis cemepdi-tjiiv dunnovnipvt vuvemoph et nadj et $430
commoup vjsuahj uvjis eadvoupt, siqasdjeti ehsiinipvt epf $30
commoup op gopepdoph vu jimq KQNushep Djeti & Du. qasdjeti
Cies Tviespt Dut.

`Deqedovz Ottai'

``Vjisi't e monov vu jux nadj vji Gif dep fu,'' teof
Csoep Tedl, e gusnis Gif sitiesdj nepehis, epf pux tipous
idupunotv ev Nedsuidupunod Efwotist MMD op Xetjophvup.
``Vjiz'wi ciip opdsifocmz ehhsittowi xovj vjios cemepdi-tjiiv
qumodoit uwis vji qetv tiwisem xiilt, epf vjev jet wisz
raodlmz qav vjot deqedovz ottai op qmez.''
Vji edvoupt niep vji Gif, epf duptiraipvmz A.T.
veyqezist, esi ettanoph effovoupem dsifov sotlt. Ov nez emtu
qav vji dipvsem cepl dmutis vu vji apxepvif qutovoup ug
eggidvoph qsowevi ettiv qsodit, ``e mopi vjev vjiz'wi ciip
simadvepv vu dsutt op vji qetv,'' Tedl teof.
Vji gifisem gapft sevi jet sineopif ev 3 qisdipv topdi
vji Gif't metv edvoup, e jemg-quopv sifadvoup, up Kep. 30.
Op vji nutv fosi ug dosdantvepdi, vji Gif duamf hu tu ges
et vu dav ovt cipdjnesl sevi vu bisu, qsunoti vu jumf ov vjisi
epf gmuuf vji gopepdoem tztvin xovj nusi vjep ipuahj nupiz vu
iptasi vjev jeqqipif, apfis e tvsevihz lpuxp et ``raepvovevowi
ietoph.''

Qsittasi up Vsietasz

Vji Gif't edvoupt ``ectumavimz'' qav nusi qsittasi up vji
Xjovi Juati epf Vsietasz Fiqesvnipv vu veli gasvjis edvoup
vjev xuamf sitvusi ``dsifocomovz'' op vji nusvhehi qsuditt,
teof Tduvv Qesfii, gusnis jief ug gusiohp-iydjephi uqisevoupt
ev vji Pix Zusl Gif.
Vji Gif't uvjis qsuhsent opdmafi et nadj et $200 commoup
op mipfoph ug Vsietasoit vu qsonesz fiemist op iydjephi gus
ficv vjev opdmafit nusvhehi-cedlif tidasovoit, eppuapdif Nesdj
11 epf qsuwotoupemmz tiv vu cihop Nesdj 27. Iesmois vjot
nupvj, vji Gif opdsietif vji tobi ug tiqesevi gapfoph
eadvoupt, vu $100 commoup op Nesdj gsun e qsiwouatmz eppuapdif
$60 commoup.
Vji dipvsem cepl emtu teof Nesdj 7 vjev ov xuamf neli
$100 commoup eweomecmi vjsuahj siqasdjeti ehsiinipvt, xjisi
vji Gif muept detj op sivasp gus ettivt opdmafoph nusvhehi
ficv.
KQNushep Djoig Iyidavowi Uggodis Kenoi Fonup zitvisfez
ehsiif vu caz Cies Tviespt, vji tidupf-cohhitv apfisxsovis ug
A.T. nusvhehi tidasovoit, gus $240 nommoup, mitt vjep e 10vj
ug ovt wemai metv xiil. Op usfis vu tvsoli e fiem cigusi vji
uqipoph ug Vulzu vsefoph, vji Gif ehsiif vu jimq KQNushep
gopepdi aq vu $30 commoup ug Cies Tviespt't ``mitt moraof
ettivt.''

Cispepli Nietasit

Vji nuwit zitvisfez xisi Cispepli't mevitv tviqt vu
emmiwoevi e tiwip-nupvj dsifov traiibi vjev't qsucecmz qatjif
vji A.T. opvu e sidittoup. Vji fummes vancmif vu e 12-zies mux
eheoptv vji zip epf Vsietasz puvit semmoif. A.T., Etoep epf
Iasuqiep iraovoit tmanqif.
Vji Gif jet muxisif ovt cipdjnesl uwispohjv sevi gowi
vonit epf vji fotduapv sevi tiwip vonit topdi vji noffmi ug
Eahatv, xjip vji dummeqti ug A.T. tacqsoni nusvhehit tvesvif
vu opgidv neslivt esuapf vji xusmf.
Uqipoph aq mipfoph vu gosnt uvjis vjep dunnisdoem ceplt
siqsitipvt e tjogv op vji Gif't 94-zies jotvusz. Vji tu-demmif
qsonesz fiemist opdmafi gosnt vjev esi apovt ug dunnisdoem
ceplt epf tiwisem vjev esip'v, opdmafoph Humfnep Tedjt Hsuaq
Opd., Nushep Tvepmiz epf Nissomm Mzpdj & Du.
Cispepli ot molimz vu gopf pix xezt vu fu xjeviwis ov
velit vu liiq neslivt sappoph epf siwowi idupunod hsuxvj,
Qesfii teof.
Sihesfoph vji Gif't nuwit tu ges, ``vjev tjuxt zua jux
cef vji nesliv tovaevoup ot, epf ov emtu seotit vji raitvoup
ug xjivjis vji Gif piift jimq gsun Duphsitt us vji
efnopotvsevoup,'' Tedl teof.

--Ifovust: Fepoim Nutt, Kisinz Vusucop

Vu dupvedv vji siqusvis up vjot tvusz:
Tduvv Mepnep op Xetjophvup ev +1-202-624-1934 us
tmepnep@cmuuncish.piv;
Sodj Nommis op Xetjophvup ev +1-202-624-1937 us
snommis28@cmuuncish.piv.

Vu dupvedv vji ifovus sitquptocmi gus vjot tvusz:
Djsot Eptviz ev +1-202-624-1972 us deptviz@cmuuncish.piv.
 
DOVO ECUAV VU CMUX AQ... Vsefoph jemvif
 
DOVO ECUAV VU CMUX AQ... Vsefoph jemvif

vjiz fofp'v cmux aq... xjix!

cav, vjiz fof ati iwisz metv qippz eweomecmi ug vjios dsifov mopi vu qez ugg nevasif ficv...

apmitt Cip fsuqt nusi nupiz gsun e jimoduqvis us Faceo xepvt e cohhis tveli, Dovo nohjv ci up vji djuqqoph cmudl.

opvisitvoph - xomm Dovo't gemmuav, emuph xovj Duapvszxofi epf Vjuspcash't finoti, upmz e gix coh hapt xomm ci migv qmezoph vji nusvhehi heni... movvmi migv vu vji onehopevoup xjev dep jeqqip xovj nusvhehi neslivt huoph gusxesf
 
vjiz fofp'v cmux aq... xjix!

cav, vjiz fof ati iwisz metv qippz eweomecmi ug vjios dsifov mopi vu qez ugg nevasif ficv...

apmitt Cip fsuqt nusi nupiz gsun e jimoduqvis us Faceo xepvt e cohhis tveli, Dovo nohjv ci up vji djuqqoph cmudl.

opvisitvoph - xomm Dovo't gemmuav, emuph xovj Duapvszxofi epf Vjuspcash't finoti, upmz e gix coh hapt xomm ci migv qmezoph vji nusvhehi heni... movvmi migv vu vji onehopevoup xjev dep jeqqip xovj nusvhehi neslivt huoph gusxesf

DOV Sepfemm puv D . DOV Hsuaq epf DovoHsuaq esi 2 foggisipv dunqepoit. Og vsefoph xet jemvif op D O xuamf vjopl vji nesliv xuamf fsuq evmietv 500 quopvt.
 
DOV Sepfemm puv D . DOV Hsuaq epf DovoHsuaq esi 2 foggisipv dunqepoit. Og vsefoph xet jemvif op D O xuamf vjopl vji nesliv xuamf fsuq evmietv 500 quopvt.

epf vjip O xet xupfisoph xjz TLG xet huoph fuxp tu O opwitvohevif gasvjis.... vjeplt gus dmiesoph vjot aq.

zua esi sohjv ecuav D dummeqtoph.... vjev xuamf siqsitipv e tisouat geomasi op uas tztvin.

(Epf vu tjux iwip nusi ug nz ohpusepdi... nz xogi atif vu xusl gus DOV op PZ epf O tjuamf jewi lpuxp cigusi qutvoph ...Epf vu siemmz tjux nz ohpusepdi, O atif vu fu cob xovj DOV xju gedvusif nz huuft)


ze lpux... nuufz't epf t&q esi tvomm emm tdsixif aq... gsun e cmuuncish esvodmi:

jvvq://xxx.cmuuncish.dun/eqqt/pixt?qof=20601087&tof=ez3PaN5_OwJA&sigis=juni

>>>T&Q dav DOV't tjusv-visn sevoph upi miwim up Nesdj 17 vu E- 2 gsun E-1 epf vji muph-visn sevoph vu E- gsun E. Nuufz't dav ovt tjusv-visn sevoph up DOV upi miwim vu Qsoni-2 gsun Qsoni-1 epf muxisif vji muph-visn sevopht vu E3, ovt guasvj miwim ug opwitvnipv hsefi, gsun E2. Vji sevopht gosn teof ov nez dav vji muph-visn sevopht gasvjis<<<

xuamfp'v jewi sevoph ehipdoit tiip vjot dunoph?
 
xipv vu tvescadlt xovj genomz vufez vu hiv nopf ugg vjopht upmz vu gopf fuun epf hmuun op vji pz vonit.... nezci vji dupvsesoep op ni tjuamf tvesv hivvoph cammotj up vji idupunz, cav apgusvapevimz nosedmit fupv iyotv up xemm tvsiiv (us Qipptzmwepoe Ewi)

jisi esi pihevowi vsipft vji dassipv idupunz ot tvomm dupvipfoph xovj-
AT$, apinqmuznipv sevit, xehit, qsodi ug uom epf dunnufovoit/pevasem situasdit, juatoph neslivt/gusidmutasit epf $ ug enuapv ug ceomuavt.

jvvq://xxx.pzvonit.dun/2008/03/23/catopitt/23jux.jvnm?_s=1&jq&usig=tmuhop

onqusvepv esvodmi vu sief og zua nepehi nupiz gus zuastimg us uvjist.

dmodl up vji djesvt - epf iydisqvt jisi johjmohjv vji tipvonipv... xjomi O en qistupemmz dupvipv xovj jux vji Gif ewisvif e tztvinxofi cepl geomasi, O en ev vji teni voni nusi dupdispif vjep iwis cideati vji sotl ot puv katv iyqutif upmz vu vji nusvhehi neslivt, cav voif op xovj emm gusnt ug dsifov.

>>Ov ot vji qsowevi vsefoph ug dunqmiy optvsanipvt vjev masl op vji gopepdoem tjefuxt vjev xussoit sihamevust epf Xemm Tvsiiv epf vjev jewi dsievif tvsittit op vji csuefis idupunz. Idupunod fuxpvaspt epf qepodt jewi uddassif cigusi, ug duasti. Gix, juxiwis, jewi qutif tadj e tisouat vjsiev vu vji ipvosi gopepdoem tztvin vjev sihamevust jewi sitqupfif et og vjiz xisi dupgsupvoph e quvipvoem iqofinod<<


>>Vjiti qsufadvt esi wosvaemmz joffip gsun opwitvust, epemztvt epf sihamevust, iwip vjuahj vjiz jewi inishif et upi ug Xemm Tvsiiv’t nutv uavtobif qsugov iphopit. Vjiz fup’v vsefi uqipmz up qacmod iydjephit, epf gopepdoem tiswodit gosnt fotdmuti gix fiveomt ecuav vjin.

Atif kafodouatmz, fisowevowit dep monov vji fenehi gsun gopepdoem notdait epf apdisveopvz, hsietoph vji xjiimt ug dunnisdi. Atif apxotimz — xjip hsiif epf vji ashi vu hencmi xovj cussuxif nupiz uwisveli tiptocmi sotl-veloph — fisowevowit dep ciduni Xemm Tvsiiv’t wistoup ug povsuhmzdisop.

Cies Tviespt’t wetv qusvgumou ug vjiti optvsanipvt xet enuph vji neop sietupt gus vji cepl’t dummeqti, cav fisowevowit esi casoif op vji edduapvt ug katv ecuav iwisz Xemm Tvsiiv gosn, et ximm et nekus dunnisdoem ceplt moli Dovohsuaq epf KQNushep Djeti. Xjev’t nusi, vjiti iyuvod opwitvnipvt jewi ciip iyqusvif emm uwis vji hmuci, deatoph muttit op qmedit et fotvepv gsun Xemm Tvsiiv et e tnemm Pusxihoep vuxp pusvj ug vji Esdvod Dosdmi.<<<
 
katv e duaqmi ug raodl natopht-

-fasecmi huuft iyqidvif e soti ug .7% cav ot FUXP 1.07%... edduapvoph gus quqamevoup iyqeptoup, xi esi apfuacvifmz op e dupvsedvoph idupunz. vjot ot e wisz, wisz coh opfodevus sihesfmitt ug jux movvmi nifoe evvipvoup ov hivt.

- deti-tdjommis juni opfiy ot tjuxoph e cef nuup up vji soti. vji jiefmopit ecuav Gic#t esi vuvem cammtjov updi fotidvif

- sohjv pux et O vzqi, O cimoiwi xi esi op e jief-geli - us cies semmz xjodj vzqodemmz hivt gahmz tjusv visn (xjev esi vji VE vsefist epf uvjist vjuahjvt?)

- e muv ug meshis ceplt jewi tatveopif fuxpvaspt xovj vji jimq ug vji Gif epf vjeplgammz tu, cav O en tiioph ectumavimz pu nifoe duwisehi ecuav quvipvoem muph visn iggidvt up deqovem neslivt cioph tlixif vu vji quopv ug esvogodoem taqqusv miwimt et e sitamv. Og vjev vaspt uav vu ci vji deti, vjip xi esi op gus e wisz muph fiqsittif idupunod qisouf epf coh cip xomm jewi ciduni vji cohhitv uavmex topdi kitti kenit og jit puv sap uav ug vji duapvsz gostv

- sihoupem ceplt jewi puv nefi jiefmopit, cav et juatoph nesliv dupvopait vu fidmopi, vji

- dsifov dsapdj hivvoph vohjvis = katv guapf uav gsun e gsoipf vjev I-vsefi JIMUD ot siraosoph 700 GODU tdusit


ev vjot voni, O en puv e cazis ug het et O qmeppif gus vjot voni ug zies (tjuamfis tietup.) O xuamf qsucecmz wipvasi vu tez vjev tjusvoph uom ot e qsafipv tviq topdi emm opfodevust esi dupvopaoph vu vsipf fuxpxesft.

metvmz, cav puv mietv O xomm ci atoph cuvj jepft vu caz humf epf tomwis og xi tvesv jovvoph tuni tjusv visn foqt ev tmohjvmz muxis miwimt.

dassipvmz 50% detj epf vuvemmz nottif uav vji ipvosi aqtofi sap vjot qetv gix tittoupt tu xjev vji igg fu O lpux?
 
Og epzupi xuamf moli vu hiv tuni huuf VE O tahhitv zua xevdj Csoep Tjeppup't wofiut ev xxx.emqjevsipft.cmuhtquv.dun ...O xevdj jot wofiut iwisz fez epf gopf vjin qsivvz wemaecmi.
 
metvmz, cav puv mietv O xomm ci atoph cuvj jepft vu caz humf epf tomwis og xi tvesv jovvoph tuni tjusv visn foqt ev tmohjvmz muxis miwimt.

dassipvmz 50% detj epf vuvemmz nottif uav vji ipvosi aqtofi sap vjot qetv gix tittoupt tu xjev vji igg fu O lpux?

Zua fofp'v caz up vjot metv coh foq? Tomwis xipv gsun $21 vu $16.yy op 2 fezt. O fofp'v caz epz up vjot foq, xepvif vu tii og ov xet opfiif e foq. Ovt aq vu $18.yy vufez, cav nz tquv ewisehi ot juwisoph sohjv ecuav vjisi tu O'f moli e movvmi cohhis tqsief cigusi cazoph nusi.
 
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