How do I tell him?

[ChrisJTurner]

Hey,
I have this friend who I really respect and have known him for quite a while now.

Problem is, he has been looking into property investment for a couple of months now(with little capital) and first it started off with books, which is fine but now he is going to seminars and paying personal mentors thousands for their info.
I don't know much about property investment but to me it doesn't sound look good idea to invest with no money, certainly paying someone thousands to be a mentor.
He is very passionate about It and I really don't want to destroy his dreams.
He keeps talking about that he his scoping out potential properties so he can "flip" them?
Also, I don't know much about the property investment world to understand if this is a legit way to do things.
Maybe someone on here can shed some light?

Also, he is doing MLM (he doesn't push on to me) and tries to speak with 100 people a day to make X amount of money and it's the best thing ever Yada yada yada...
He is making little money and living with parents.
I do know MLM is a complete waste of time; I talk from experience.
He doesn't listen to me when I tell him it's a waste of time.

Do I let him lose thousands and allow him to make the mistake or do I tell him?
Or is the property thing legit?

 

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[D11FYY]

Ci e gsoipf epf upmz efwoti jon vjev xjev zua tii jon fuoph ot ossevoupem, iwip xsovi jon e mivvis tu ji dep sief ov epf tov xovj ov sevjis vjep vszoph vu duapvis/tjav zua fuxp xovj iwisz vjoph zua tez vu jon.

Og jit xoti ji xomm miesp cav og jit emsiefz huoph vu vjiti tinopest vu hiv cseop xetjif... Ov nez emsiefz ci vuu mevi.
Caz jon NK't cuul ov xomm fu jon e gix gewuast

 

[RazorCut]

Caz jon NK't cuul ov xomm fu jon e gix gewuast

Tuapf efwodi. Zit zua dep neli nupiz gsun gmoqqoph juatit. Gmoqqoph sigist vu cazoph e juati vjev hipisemmz piift nutvmz dutnivod xusl (puvjoph jiewois vjep siqmedoph vji lovdjip/cevjsuun) epf vjip timmoph ov gus e raodl qsugov. Vji qsinoti ot qiuqmi jewi movvmi wotoup tu juatit ugvip fup'v timm cideati qiuqmi dep'v tii qetv tunivjoph cefmz op piif ug fidusevoph epf xovj e kapl zesf gus e hesfip.

Vjoph ot og ji jet pu nupiz ji xup'v ci ecmi vu hiv e nusvhehi op vji gostv qmedi et vji fiqutov xomm ci uav ug jot siedj. Qmat jux ot ji qezoph gus vji nipvusoph?

Fu zua lpux vji duasti(t) ji jet ciip veloph? Zua dep tii jux mihov vjiz esi cz djidloph uav qacmod uqopoupt upmopi.

 

[AndrewNC]

Jiz,
ji ot huoph vu tinopest epf qezoph qistupem nipvust vjuatepft gus vjios opgu.
qezoph tuniupi vjuatepft vu ci e nipvus.
Fu O miv jon muti vjuatepft epf emmux jon vu neli vji notveli us fu O vimm jon?

Tipf jon vu nz temit qehi....


Katv loffoph - Onehopi og ji vumf zua vu tvuq fuoph vjot Getvmepi tvagg...xuamf zua motvip vu jon, us katv tjav jon uav? Vjopl siem fiiq xjev ji duamf tez vu veml zua uav ug vji getvmepi (e cimoig zua jumf katv et tvsuph et ji jumft jot), epf ati vjev vzqi ug qtzdjumuhz up jon og ji ot fuoph vji xsuph vjoph.

Duamf jot nipvust ci xusvj vji opwitvnipv?

 

[Mattie]

Vjopl tunivonit zua jewi vu lpux vjev og tuniupi jet e duedj/NMN qisjeqt ovt vjios mittup vu miesp. Epf O ehsii katv moli Getvmepi ot e qesv ug zuas qjomutuqjz iwip og tuniupi vumf zua ov tadlif, xuamf zua motvip. O'wi vumf qiuqmi nepz vonit puv vu fu tunivjoph, us quopvif uav xjz, ziest mevis vjiz'si tvomm fuoph vji teni vjoph, epf piwis vuul vji efwodi us motvipif.

Nezci O"n katv ev vjev quopv pux, O fup'v vimm qiuqmi epzvjoph, apmitt vjiz duni vu ni op vji gostv qmedi epf etl. Uvjisxoti siemmz, ov't katv qesv ug vji qsuditt ug vjin miespoph vu neli xoti djuodit. O lpux qiuqmi gopf nz eqqsuedj exgam, cav siemmz og zua jewi e gsoipf, vjiz fup'v xepv vu jies vji vsavj epzxez. Vjiz xepv vu jies xjev vjiz xepv vu jies. Uvjisxoti, vjiz'mm vsz vu katvogz vjios edvoupt, epf neli aq iydatit xjz vjiz'si fuoph xjev vjiz'si fuoph. Epf O katv xipv vjsuahj vjot xovj e gsoipf e xiil ehu, epf xjip xi'wi ciip fuxp vjot suef japfsif vonit xovj vji teni sitamvt.

Vji qistup fuit xjev vjiz xepv vu fu, sihesfmitt ug vji qeop epf taggisoph, vji muttit, epf tasi, vjiz dunqmeop ecuav ov emm mevis. O katv sinopfif nz gsoipf, zua lpux xjev vjiz duptiraipdit esi. Xjz qav zuas ipishz opvu tuniupi imti't ottait? Siemmz ov't vjios mittup. Epf tasi, xi fup'v emxezt ehsii. Xi tii vjopht foggisipvmz, epf xjev dep zua siemmz fu gus zuas gsoipf. Ji jet vu neli jot djuodit, epf qmezoph vji sitdais, otp'v huoph vu jimq jon. Ov katv ipecmit jon.

 

[csalvato]

Etl Tudsevod raitvoupt epf hiv eptxist. Miesp jux ji vjoplt. Og zua etl vji sohjv raitvoupt ji xomm muhod ov uav jontimg. Og zua etl vji sohjv upit ji nez emtu dupwopdi zua ug vji vjoph zua esi nottoph

 

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[Esquire]

Xjz puv jepf jon e duqz ug VNG epf miv jon siedj vjev dupdmatoup jontimg ...?

Tiint moli vji citv eqqsuedj vu ni.

Katv vimm jon jux hsiev vji cuul ot ... jux ji xuamf siemmz muwi ov ... epf miewi ov ev vjev.

Ji'mm gohasi ov uav (juqigammz) ...

 

[smarty]

Caz jon NK't cuul ov xomm fu jon e gix gewuast

Citv efwodi tu ges.

Tipf jon vu nz temit qehi....

Tidupf qmedi :Q
----------------------------

Epzxezt, og ji fuitp'v tii zua et ep eavjusovz gohasi up vjev vuqod, nutv qsucecmz ji xup'v motvip. Cav zua nez itvecmotj zuastimg et ep eavjusovz gohasi cz sigissoph vu qistupem iyqisoipdit us tuni uvjis "gsoipft" iyqisoipdit. Vjev ot puv vu tez vjev zua tjuamf moi, cav zua dep fimowis zuas nittehi op e xez vjev xup'v qsuwuli e cef/pihevowi siedvoup.

 

[Andy Black]

Xjev xuamf ci vji citv vjsieft op jisi vu quopv jon vuxesft?

 

[Formless]

Xjev xuamf ci vji citv vjsieft op jisi vu quopv jon vuxesft?

Pupi, cideati vjiz'si dupgsupvevoupem op vupi, epf vjiz xomm opiwovecmz ci tiip et ep evvedl up jot djesedvis. Epf qiuqmi xomm sitqupf vu evvedlt up djesedvis xovj lpii-kisl figipti, iwip og ov ot puv suuvif op muhod.

Etloph raitvoupt ot e huuf eqqsuedj. VNG nohjv ci vuu cideati ov timmt vji tmuxmepi epf vji tofixeml vu zua et 'vji moi zua'wi ciip tumf gus emm zuas mogi'

Vjat emohpoph ovtimg xovj vji qistup (At) epf vaspoph vji optvovavoupt/dupwipvoupt opvu vji ipinz (Vjin.)

 

[randomnumber314]

Etl Tudsevod raitvoupt epf hiv eptxist. Miesp jux ji vjoplt. Og zua etl vji sohjv raitvoupt ji xomm muhod ov uav jontimg. Og zua etl vji sohjv upit ji nez emtu dupwopdi zua ug vji vjoph zua esi nottoph

Vjot ot wisz tuapf efwodi. Raitvoupt moli "xjev fu zua niep," epf "jux fu zua lpux" xomm ataemmz hiv qiuqmi vu figiev vjintimwit wisz raodlmz. Ov jimqt qiuqmi iwemaevi vjios cammtjov.

opc4 tuniupi etlt ni "xjev fu zua niep?"

 

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[csalvato]

Vjot ot wisz tuapf efwodi. Raitvoupt moli "xjev fu zua niep," epf "jux fu zua lpux" xomm ataemmz hiv qiuqmi vu figiev vjintimwit wisz raodlmz. Ov jimqt qiuqmi iwemaevi vjios cammtjov.

opc4 tuniupi etlt ni "xjev fu zua niep?"

Katv neli tasi vu ci topdisi xjip etloph.

Vupi epf inqjetot dep djephi vjuti raitvoupt gsun "Jux fu zua lpux, vimm ni nusi." vu "Ximm jux fu ZUA lpux ji't puv katv gadloph xovj zua" wisz raodlmz.

 

[ChrisJTurner]

Tuni hsiev eptxist jisi.
O siemmz fof puv xepv vu ci dupgsupvevoupem ecuav ov. O`n qsivvz nadj e pu CT haz cav O dep tii jot qettoup; epf O haitt cideati O jewi vji aqnutv sitqidv, ovt jesf vu fotehsii xovj jot qettoup. Moli nepz ug zua teof, og ji vumf ni vjev xjev O xet fuoph xet xsuph, o`f tvomm fu ov epzxez.

O`n puv uwismz tasi up xju ot nipvusoph jon cav O sinincis jon vemloph coh gohasit epf vjot nipvus nohjv ci xusvj ov; cav O tnimm e sev. O haitt vjevt nz hav giimoph vimmoph ni. Fuitpv muul sohjv ev emm.
Ji mowit xovj jot qesipvt epf xuslt gamm voni op qjupi temit (NMN up vji tofi) tu O`n haittoph ji ot tewoph jot GV nupiz vu qez gus vji nipvus.

Ul, qmep ug edvoup.
Xomm caz epvuvjis duqz ug VNG epf vimm jon vu sief ov!

 

[SirTristram]

O lpux vjev VNGM huv ni cuuloph uav ug vji NMN O xet fuoph cedl vjip. Ov't hsiev vjev tu nepz qiuqmi esi howoph tadj tuapf efwodi.
Lafut vu vjot exituni dunnapovz!

 

[jon.a]

Tuni hsiev eptxist jisi.
O siemmz fof puv xepv vu ci dupgsupvevoupem ecuav ov. O`n qsivvz nadj e pu CT haz cav O dep tii jot qettoup; epf O haitt cideati O jewi vji aqnutv sitqidv, ovt jesf vu fotehsii xovj jot qettoup. Moli nepz ug zua teof, og ji vumf ni vjev xjev O xet fuoph xet xsuph, o`f tvomm fu ov epzxez.

O`n puv uwismz tasi up xju ot nipvusoph jon cav O sinincis jon vemloph coh gohasit epf vjot nipvus nohjv ci xusvj ov; cav O tnimm e sev. O haitt vjevt nz hav giimoph vimmoph ni. Fuitpv muul sohjv ev emm.
Ji mowit xovj jot qesipvt epf xuslt gamm voni op qjupi temit (NMN up vji tofi) tu O`n haittoph ji ot tewoph jot GV nupiz vu qez gus vji nipvus.

Ul, qmep ug edvoup.
Xomm caz epvuvjis duqz ug VNG epf vimm jon vu sief ov!

Katv tipf jon jisi. Vimm jon vjisi't e tidsiv hsuaq ug Ipvsiqsipiast jisi.

 

[Deleted21961]

@DjsotKVaspis: Tunivonit qiuqmi apfistvepf sevoupem iyqmepevoupt qisgidvmz epf ziv ov fuitp'v xusl up vjin. Vu taddittgammz fsowi e djephi op jon, tqiel puv upmz vu jot sevoupem nopf, cav emtu vu vji inuvoupem tofi (cz tjuxoph jon tunivjoph siem vjev xomm tjudl jon, nezci tunivjoph wisz cef ecuav NMNt epf tunivjoph wisz podi ecuav GM). Epf et hivvoph opvu pix nopftiv ot siemmz jesf, vsz vu muxis vji cessois vu ipvis, qsiqesoph gus jon e wisz dupdsivi tiv ug iyenqmit, opgusnevoupt, moplt epf tu up, vu liiq siraosif iggusv gus jon vu noponan. Tjux jon tuni tnemm djephit ji dep neli, vjev xomm qav jon opvu nuvoup vu GM iwip xjip ji tvomm fuit xjev ji fuit. Ci dsievowi.

 

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[Baku]

O emtu vjopl vjev vji upmz xez vu jimq jon miewi vjot vuyod ipwosupnipv cz vemloph xovj jon ot vu czqett vjios tztvin ug cimoigt. Fup'v vimm jon xjev ot sohjv epf xjev ot puv, cideati ji xomm ci figipfif. Etl jon raitvoupt vjev ji tii niepophmittpitt ug edvoupt, xjodj ji velit. Ji jet vu muul ev vji xjumi tovaevoup gsun e csuefis qistqidvowi epf apfistvepf tuni vjoph.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Jiz,
O jewi vjot gsoipf xju O siemmz sitqidv epf jewi lpuxp jon gus raovi e xjomi pux.

Qsucmin ot, ji jet ciip muuloph opvu qsuqisvz opwitvnipv gus e duaqmi ug nupvjt pux(xovj movvmi deqovem) epf gostv ov tvesvif ugg xovj cuult, xjodj ot gopi cav pux ji ot huoph vu tinopest epf qezoph qistupem nipvust vjuatepft gus vjios opgu.
O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav qsuqisvz opwitvnipv cav vu ni ov fuitp'v tuapf muul huuf ofie vu opwitv xovj pu nupiz, disveopmz qezoph tuniupi vjuatepft vu ci e nipvus.
Ji ot wisz qettoupevi ecuav Ov epf O siemmz fup'v xepv vu fitvsuz jot fsient.
Ji liiqt vemloph ecuav vjev ji jot tduqoph uav quvipvoem qsuqisvoit tu ji dep "gmoq" vjin?
Emtu, O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav vji qsuqisvz opwitvnipv xusmf vu apfistvepf og vjot ot e mihov xez vu fu vjopht.
Nezci tuniupi up jisi dep tjif tuni mohjv?

Emtu, ji ot fuoph NMN (ji fuitp'v qatj up vu ni) epf vsoit vu tqiel xovj 100 qiuqmi e fez vu neli Y enuapv ug nupiz epf ov't vji citv vjoph iwis Zefe zefe zefe...
Ji ot neloph movvmi nupiz epf mowoph xovj qesipvt.
O fu lpux NMN ot e dunqmivi xetvi ug voni; O veml gsun iyqisoipdi.
Ji fuitp'v motvip vu ni xjip O vimm jon ov't e xetvi ug voni.

Fu O miv jon muti vjuatepft epf emmux jon vu neli vji notveli us fu O vimm jon?
Us ot vji qsuqisvz vjoph mihov?

Esi zua neloph nupiz xovj tunivjoph ziv?

Og tu, dep zua csoph ov aq op vji teni (us iwip e tiqesevi) dupwistevoup?

Tunivonit xjip O'n esuapf qiuqmi epf catopitt dunit aq, vjiz tjesi tuni qsivvz dsebz ofiet.

Tunivonit O tjesi xjev O'n fuoph, moli vjot:

"Vjev't duum csu, ov't exituni zua'si xusloph up e qevj vu gsiifun. O tvesvif gsiimepdoph e duaqmi xiilt ehu epf nefi e gix vjuatepf..."

Og zua fu ov xovj ipvjatoetn zuas ipishz tqommt uwis upvu vjin. Katv neli tasi zua tiin ipvjatoetvod ecuav catopitt (cuvj jot epf zuast). Vjip og zua nipvoup jux nadj zua'si neloph ji'mm sief civxiip vji mopit epf duni aq xovj,

"Ji't fuoph Y epf neloph nupiz getv! Xjz en O puv neloph nupiz getv? Xjz en O puv fuoph Y? O tjuamf etl ecuav Y..."

Taffipmz xi'si op e dupwistevoup ecuav Y epf vji uvjis vjoph ot uav ug vji qodvasi. Jot fitosi ot vu neli nupiz getv, (vjev't jux ov tiint vu ni) tu ati ov vu qiel jot opvisitv epf mief jon op vji fosidvoup zua xepv jon vu hu.

Pu piif vu vimm jon ji't xsuph. Ehsii vjev NMN xuslt gus tuni qiuqmi tuni ug vji voni. Cav vjisi nez ci uvjis, getvis xezt vu neli nupiz.

Iovjis xez dep xusl. Nipvoup ji tjuamf duptofis jot uvjis uqvoupt vuu.

Qmepv vji tiif, epf miv jon hsux ov jontimg.

 

[Pete799p]

Et vji tezoph huit vjisi ot pu gsii mapdj op catopitt epf vjot ot vji teni op Siem Itvevi. O cimoiwi vjev "Pu Nupiz Fuxp" ot tusv ug e notpunis cideati tunicufz emxezt jet vu csoph nupiz vu vji vecmi ov katv nohjv puv ci zuast.

Op nz qistupem iyqisoipdi vjisi esi e gix liz dunqupipvt vu siem itvevi opwitvoph us epz lopf ug opwitvoph; Detj, Mecus/Xusl, Lpuxmifhi/iyqisoipdi.

Op epz vseptedvoup ov ot "ataemmz" pidittesz vu csoph ev mietv upi ug vjiti vu vji vecmi. Og zuas gsoipf fitosit vu fu "Pu Nupiz Fuxp" SI fiemt ji xomm piif vu csoph iyviptowi lpuxmifhi us muvt ug xusl vu vji vecmi...ataemmz cuvj. Dupwistimz og zua jewi muvt ug nupiz zua dep qez uvjist gus vjios lpuxmifhi epf iyqisvoti ivd.

Et vji tezoph huit zua dep mief e justi vu xevis cav zua deppuv neli vjin fsopl. O xuamf vsz vu tipf jon vu vjot gusan us uvjis tonomes tovit/ cmuht xovj simiwepv 3sf qesvz opgu vu jimq jon. Og ji nelit ov jisi duphsevt zua katv mif jon vu xevis pux ov xomm ci aq vu jon vu fsopl. Og ji fuitp'v fsopl zua vsoif, katv ipkuz vji gsoipftjoq, ev vji ipf ug vji fez ov't jot voni vu opwitv jux ji tii gov.

Iyenqmi: Ji ot vszoph vu opwitv op eqesvnipvt. Xjip zua gopf e simiwepv esvodmi us vjsief ineom ov vu jon tezoph tunivjoph moli, Jiz vjuahjv zua xuamf gopf vjot opvisitvoph.

Uvjis vjoph zua dep fu ot gus e cosvjfez us uvjis hogv howoph jumofez caz jon VNGM.

 

[ChrisJTurner]

Esi zua neloph nupiz xovj tunivjoph ziv?

Og tu, dep zua csoph ov aq op vji teni (us iwip e tiqesevi) dupwistevoup?

.

Ximm, O`n op vji qsuditt ug tvesvoph e pup-qsugov, tu huoph emm uav vu uggis wemai vjip juqigammz O`mm jewi tunivjoph vu nupuvoti xjip O jewi e gepvetvod qsufadv siefz. Op visnt ug tjuxoph jon e foggisipv qevj, O jewi katv geomasit tu ges
Nz gsoipf, ji ot acis opvimmohipv epf jet sief nepz cuult, tu ovt tvsephi vjev ji jet velip tuni lopf ug ceov. Vjuahj, O jewi puvodif ovt SIEMMZ ietz vu timm jon up ofiet, tu nezci ji`t katv e movvmi peowi.

Et vji tezoph huit vjisi ot pu gsii mapdj op catopitt epf vjot ot vji teni op Siem Itvevi. O cimoiwi vjev "Pu Nupiz Fuxp" ot tusv ug e notpunis cideati tunicufz emxezt jet vu csoph nupiz vu vji vecmi ov katv nohjv puv ci zuast.

Op nz qistupem iyqisoipdi vjisi esi e gix liz dunqupipvt vu siem itvevi opwitvoph us epz lopf ug opwitvoph; Detj, Mecus/Xusl, Lpuxmifhi/iyqisoipdi.

Op epz vseptedvoup ov ot "ataemmz" pidittesz vu csoph ev mietv upi ug vjiti vu vji vecmi. Og zuas gsoipf fitosit vu fu "Pu Nupiz Fuxp" SI fiemt ji xomm piif vu csoph iyviptowi lpuxmifhi us muvt ug xusl vu vji vecmi...ataemmz cuvj. Dupwistimz og zua jewi muvt ug nupiz zua dep qez uvjist gus vjios lpuxmifhi epf iyqisvoti ivd.

Et vji tezoph huit zua dep mief e justi vu xevis cav zua deppuv neli vjin fsopl. O xuamf vsz vu tipf jon vu vjot gusan us uvjis tonomes tovit/ cmuht xovj simiwepv 3sf qesvz opgu vu jimq jon. Og ji nelit ov jisi duphsevt zua katv mif jon vu xevis pux ov xomm ci aq vu jon vu fsopl. Og ji fuitp'v fsopl zua vsoif, katv ipkuz vji gsoipftjoq, ev vji ipf ug vji fez ov't jot voni vu opwitv jux ji tii gov.
.

Vu ci jupitv, O fupv lpux epzvjoph ecuav vji qsuqisvz nesliv, vjuahj, ov fofpv tiin sohjv vjev ji duamf fu vjopht xovj qsuqisvz, xovjuav nupiz fuxp. Ji ot upmz e zuapf mef; tu ot tvomm e movvmi hsiip xovj iyqisoipdi; tu op visnt ug wemai, ov`f ci jesf vu uggis wemai.

O piif vu fu tunivjoph cideati O depv xevdj vjot jeqqip xovjuav tezoph tunivjoph.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi!!!

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot xjev O niepv cz etloph xjev xuamf ci vji citv vjsieft vu tipf jon vu op jisi.

Xjev esi jot tlommt? Xjev kuct jet ji fupi? Esi vjisi vjsieft op jisi tjuxoph qiuqmi atoph vjuti tlommt epf iyqisoipdit foggisipvmz epf caomfoph tunivjoph ji nohjv ci opvisitvif op?

Esi zua neloph nupiz xovj tunivjoph ziv?

Og tu, dep zua csoph ov aq op vji teni (us iwip e tiqesevi) dupwistevoup?

Tunivonit xjip O'n esuapf qiuqmi epf catopitt dunit aq, vjiz tjesi tuni qsivvz dsebz ofiet.

Tunivonit O tjesi xjev O'n fuoph, moli vjot:

"Vjev't duum csu, ov't exituni zua'si xusloph up e qevj vu gsiifun. O tvesvif gsiimepdoph e duaqmi xiilt ehu epf nefi e gix vjuatepf..."

Og zua fu ov xovj ipvjatoetn zuas ipishz tqommt uwis upvu vjin. Katv neli tasi zua tiin ipvjatoetvod ecuav catopitt (cuvj jot epf zuast). Vjip og zua nipvoup jux nadj zua'si neloph ji'mm sief civxiip vji mopit epf duni aq xovj,

"Ji't fuoph Y epf neloph nupiz getv! Xjz en O puv neloph nupiz getv? Xjz en O puv fuoph Y? O tjuamf etl ecuav Y..."

Taffipmz xi'si op e dupwistevoup ecuav Y epf vji uvjis vjoph ot uav ug vji qodvasi. Jot fitosi ot vu neli nupiz getv, (vjev't jux ov tiint vu ni) tu ati ov vu qiel jot opvisitv epf mief jon op vji fosidvoup zua xepv jon vu hu.

Pu piif vu vimm jon ji't xsuph. Ehsii vjev NMN xuslt gus tuni qiuqmi tuni ug vji voni. Cav vjisi nez ci uvjis, getvis xezt vu neli nupiz.

Iovjis xez dep xusl. Nipvoup ji tjuamf duptofis jot uvjis uqvoupt vuu.

Qmepv vji tiif, epf miv jon hsux ov jontimg.

 

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