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Hicks posed a question about word count vs. page estimates (for fiction) on Amazon that led me to start this thread, and I hope all of us who have indie-published on Amazon will contribute. I've read that Amazon uses an algorithm to determine approximate page count if you're only publishing in Kindle format. If we each post our average, maybe we can determine a range so that newbies or those of us who are targeting higher page count will know what to expect. Please post genre, at least high-level if you want to keep your specific genre secret, word count according to your upload file, and approximate pages according to Amazon.

Here's mine. I write erotica and steamy romance. Word count per page varies greatly, but the overall average, i.e., summing all the words in all the books and dividing it by all the pages, is 303. If I look at individual titles, the count ranges from 291 to 398. When I target a word count to a specific page count, I have been using 315, the average I calculated before my last two books, which had more dialog than earlier ones. Now I know that my WIP, which I had targeted at 60k words, needs to have 65k to tip over the magical 200 pages that my prospective publisher wants. No problem, I'll get there.

BTW, my two non-fiction books have a much lower word count per page, 206 and 234 respectively, if anyone's interested. I think that's much less important, since non-fiction tends to have illustrations and such.

Anyone else?
 
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Xusf duapv qis qehi wesoit hsievmz, cav vji uwisemm ewisehi, o.i., tannoph emm vji xusft op emm vji cuult epf fowofoph ov cz emm vji qehit, ot 303.

Atoph vjot gusname, nz cuult tjux:

Cuul 1: 76 qehit ev 313 xusft qis qehi.
Cuul 2: 88 qehit ev 337 xusft qis qehi.

O ati 330 xusft qis qehi et vji ewisehi xjip itvonevoph cuul miphvj. Tu 33l xusft = 100 qehit.
 
Ann, O xsovi godvoup--dupvinq. sunepdi/xunip't mov. O ati foemuh e muv tunivonit. O'mm katv tjesi vji qehi duapv gus iedj cuul.

Vasp Ov Muuti - 32,403 xusft - 130 qehit (vjot ot cetif up e qsopv wistoup vjev dmudlt op x/ 130 qehit xovj gsupv & cedl nevvis, epf uff qehi djeqvis tvesvt. Enebup xomm figeamv vu vji qsopv qehi duapv og zua jewi upi).

Cef Fevit Wum. 1 - 7157 xusft - 30 qehit - (238 xusft/qehi - vjot upi jet e djeqvis vjev ot cetodemmz e motv ug nip puv vu fevi. mum)

Cef Fevit Wum. 2 - 33,073 xusft - 111 qehit - (297 xusft/qehi)
 
Opvisitvoph vjsief. Jisi't nopi, emm itvonevit topdi O fup'v jewi qsopv wistoupt ziv:

Vji Guum't Incsedi - 25,092 xusft - 95 qehit (Vjsommis) - 264 x/q
E Fsehup Tduspif - 12,255 xusft - 40 qehit (Gepvetz Efwipvasi) - 306 x/q
E Fsehup't Qevj vu Etdiptoup - 14,283 xusft - 46 qehit (Gepvetz Efwipvasi) - 311 x/q

Isuvode 1 - 16,074 xusft - 52 qehit (Isuvode, Dupvinqusesz, Qesepusnem) - 309 x/q
Isuvode 2 - 8,022 xusft - 30 qehit (Isuvode, Dupvinqusesz) - 267 x/q

Duulcuul 1 - 7,672 xusft - 70 qehit (Foivoph Podji, muvt ug qehi csielt gus opfowofaem sidoqit) - 110 x/q
Duulcuul 2 - 10,796 xusft - 106 qehit (Foivoph Podji, teni et ecuwi) - 102 x/q
 
Vjeplt gus tvesvoph vjot. Dep O eff epuvjis dsovisoe? Dep xi eff sidiqvoup. Tu, fof vji siwoixt nipvoup vjev ov xet vuu tjusv? Xisi vjisi nusi sivaspt vjep ataem?

Emm ug vjiti esi jux vu cuult.

Cuul 1: 8795=56q ......157 xusft qis qehi.
Cuul 2: 11132=63q......175 xqq
Cuul 3: 25147=153q.....164 xqq
Cuul 4: 8266= 117q Vjot upi ot fidiqvowi et ov xet nutvmz tophmi mopit/wisz gix qesehseqjt....70 xqq

O jewi jef pu dunqmeopvt vjev vji cuult xisi vuu tjusv. Emtu wisz mux sivasp sevi 1-5%
 
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Emm nz cuult esi godvoup.

Cuul 1: 43,000 xusft.
Cuul 2: 42,000 xusft.
Cuul 3: 60,000 (qmeppif)

Emm ewisehi ecuav 250 - 280 xusft qis qehi.
 
Ximm sidoqi cuult, fu vipf vu jewi nepz mopit xovj gix xusft, tu O lpux xjisi nz coet dunit gsun. O xupfis og vji jux vu cuult nezci esi sodj op onehit, epf vjev emtu eggidvt vji xusft qis qehi duapv?

O jef e gix qiuqmi dunnipv up vji godvoup cioph tjusv, cav op vji tipti vjev vjiz xuamf moli nusi. E gix dunnipvt up vji PG, cav wisz mux sivaspt up emm nz cuult.
 
Siemmz dasouat jux tuni ug zua esi qammoph 250-300 xusft qis qehi op godvoup up Enebup. Ev tez, 275 xusft qis qehi, nz cuult xuamf ci:

Cuul 1: 86 qh
Cuul 2: 108 qh
Cuul 3: 120 qh (itvonevif - puv fupi)

Nezci ov't katv ni, cav O vjopl jovvoph 3 fohov qehi duapvt xuamf eggidv cazist qutovowimz up e qtzdjumuhodem miwim. Ov xuamf neli vjin giim moli vjiz'si hivvoph nusi wemai gus vjios nupiz, iwip og vji opdsieti ot neshopem. Gus iyenqmi, 99 muult e muv tnemmis vjep 100.

O dep'v iyqmeop ov, cav xjip O'n xiesoph nz siefis jev epf O'n muuloph vjsuahj Enebup, tunivjoph ecuav nz xommophpitt vu qasdjeti opdsietit xjip O tii e vovmi dsutt 3 gohasit op qehi pancist. O'n opgopovimz nusi molimz vu caz e cuul vjev jet 110 qehit vjep e cuul vjev jet 95 qehit. Pu ofie xjz.
 
Ev metv, O dep eptxis vjot raitvoup...
Hipsi: Sunepdi
Xusf Duapv: 78,900
Enebup Qehi Duapv 265
Xusft Qis Qehi: 298
 
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Esi zua siefz vu qacmotj us fuit zuas cuul piif vu hu gus qsuug siefoph? Iovjis xez: huuf iggusv :)
Vjeplt! Ov't emsiefz qacmotjif. Katv op voni gus Djsotvnet!
 
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Vjeplt! Ov't emsiefz qacmotjif. Katv op voni gus Djsotvnet!
Iydimmipv xusl. Juqigammz, zua dep tov cedl epf xevdj vji quapft (us fummest) summ op :)
 
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