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Hey fellow fastlaners. I have a dilemma and would like some advice.

As some of you may know, my partners and I have been developing a product for the past year. We are very close to launch. Probably less than 6 weeks away. Our manufacturer is in the process of making the mold for our product then he is shipping us a sample and if we approve, we're in business.

The problem I'm having is with my Web Developer, which is a close friend of mine. The problem is not that he is slacking on building our site. The problem is that since this is our first product and we're already putting most of our savings into it, we're trying to get him on board as a partner. We're doing anything we can to save money in the beginning. I feel for the site he's building us, the packaging and logo design he has done for us and building our social media pages, if we had to go to someone on the outside to get it done we would have 3 problems: a) they probably won't be as good as he is (he's been doing this his whole life, great at graphic design, builds web sites for fortune 500 companies, was webmaster for Con Edison and now is webmaster for Bank of Tokyo) b) They won't be reliable, which I hear is a problem with many web developers. c) It would be way too expensive in the beginning, especially when we could be using the money for other things such as advertising and marketing.

I know there are going to be a bunch of you that call me crazy. So be it. I'm not a greedy person. This is a close friend of mine (In my bridal party) and we've talked about doing something like this together since we were kids. I finally grew the balls to start it!

Here's what we offered (for those of you that don't know, I have 2 partners already - We all bring our own set of skills to the table that make us so much stronger together and it makes it a lot easier financially) :

Option A) We offered him a 5% share in the company. He would be responsible for 5% of the expenses and his duties would be to develop the website, build our social media pages (but not control them), help us build our brand with packaging and design. We will pay him all expenses necessary to build the site such as shopping cart/hosting. He will just do it for an extremely discounted rate. He would also be included in all of our future products, which we have a long list of after the first one gets rolling.

Option B) We offered him 3% of NET sales along with a sliding scale for Internet sales based on dollar amount sold through the website, maxing out at 10%. He would have same responsibility except he would not be responsible for expenses. We would also have to compensate him a little more for building the site.


We thought we had 2 great offers on the table for him but he came back to us with what we think is an absurd offer and even an insult. He wants 3% of GROSS sales. A sliding scale on Internet sales Maxing out at 8% but based on pieces sold (also and extremely low amount to hit max) and 3% of the company if it is sold. He will also be giving us a discounted rate for the website (About half of what it would cost us on the outside) and he would be responsible for hosting fees.

Before I say what I think, I'd like to get some opinions from someone on the outside. Thanks in advance!
 
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Emtu qmieti sinincis ji ot veloph e sotl et ximm. Og vji catopitt geomt, ji mutit emm ug jot jesf xusl epf voni vjev ji qav opvu vji qsukidv. 3% ug puvjoph ot iyedvmz puvjoph.
 
eptxisoph upmz zuas vovmi raitvoup: xjip O xet xusloph up nz tvesvaq op Cismop, vszoph vu gopf fiwimuqist, O siemobif (vjsuahj nz OV-efwotus, xju ot e fiwimuqis epf DVU gus wesouat wisz taddittgam tvesvaqt), vjev fiwimuqist fupv xusl gus iraovz (ev mietv op tvesvaq jact moli Cismop xjisi vjiz txon op uggist). Vji siemmz huuf upit (xju O piif cideati ug vji vidjpodem dunqmiyovz) op Cismop dutv esuapf 12'000 €... QIS NUPVJ. tu todl.

sihesfoph zuas tovaevoup: ov tiint moli zua upmz piif e fiwimuqis/fitohpis gus upi-voni xusl epf puv uphuoph edvowovoit, tu gsun vjot tvepfquopv ov tiint xsuph vu howi jon iraovz us % ug temit/qsugov, xjodj tjuamf ci ep opdipvowi gus muph-visn dunnovnipv.

emtu zua tjuamf vsz vu tiqisevi gsoipft epf catopitt. ov tuapft moli zua esi uggisoph jon nusi vjep vjot lopf ug xusl fitiswit cideati zua xepv vu jewi zuas gsoipf up cuesf.

katv nz 2 dipvt.

og O apfistvepf zuas tovaevoup sohjv epf zua siemmz katv piif e upi-voni xictovi/tudoem nifoe tivaq xovj e qsugittoupem muul, O xuamf moli vu uggis zua nz xusl. O jewi e muv ug iyqisoipdi op xicfitohp epf upmopi-neslivoph/tudoem nifoe epf en dassipvmz caomfoph e uggmopi duptamvoph catopitt esuapf ov op Iasuqi. O duamf fu ov gus e upi-voni gii (figissif qeznipv). Og zua esi opvisitvif giim gsii vu tipf ni e QN epf O dep qsuwofi zua xovj tuni sigisipdit.

huuf madl xovj zuas wipvasi.
 
E huuf fiwimuqqis jet e temesz op vji 6 fohovt... qmat cipigovt.
Og zua xepv jon vu xusl gus zua, ji'mm xepv ev mietv vjev, epf molimz nusi et vji dupvsedv ot tjusv-visn... Vjiz ataemmz fup'v desi ecuav iraovz (epf zua tjuamf liiq iraovz gus zuastimg epzxez)
 
Xovj pu ofie xjev zuas qsugov neshopt epf iyqiptit esi, ov't wisz jesf vu kafhi katv jux nadj foggisipdi vjisi xomm ci civxiip 3% piv epf 3% hsutt. Dep zua dunqsunoti - 3% ug hsutt temit (qesv ug jot uggis), epf tmofoph tdemi aq vu 10% ug xic temit cz fummes enuapv (qesv ug zuas uggis)? Zua teof iesmz op vji qutv ji't e dmuti gsoipf, xjodj tahhitvt vu ni vjev zua'si op e cov ug e jesf tquv - ji't molimz vu iyqidv zua vu ci geosmz hipisuat xovj zuas uggis.
 
Cioph e fiwimuqis nztimg, nz xogi e qsugittoupem fitohpis epf ni uxpoph e xic fiwimuqnipv/duptamvoph gosn: vji dutv siemmz fiqipft up zuas siraosinipvt. Cav, vu eptxis zuas fosidv raitvoup gsun vji vovmi: jux nadj ot e huuf fiwimuqis xusvj: $100,000 us nusi qis zies/qsukidv (fiqipfoph up tduqi).

Og zua'si muuloph gus e upi ugg fitohp + fiwim, (miv't ettani emm zua piif ot e tjuqqoph desv tztvin qmat dunqepz xictovi) vjip vjev't epzxjisi ug $2,500 epf aq. $4,000 epf aq og zua'si muuloph gus johjis ipf fitohp. Zua dep ietomz siedj opvu vji 10,000't og zua piif muvt ug tqidoem gapdvoupemovz.

Uggisoph jon tjesi op vji dunqepz otp'v tunivjoph vjev fiwimuqist siemmz fu apmitt vjiz siemmz xepv vu ciduni qesv ug vji dunqepz. Puvjoph xsuph xovj ov, katv tezoph vjev O'wi sesimz tiip e fiwimuqis veli ov.

Vji nekusovz xomm qsigis tuni aqgsupv qeznipvt epf og vjisi esi siraosoph giit, vjip vjuti dep ci duwisif cz e qisdipvehi ug vji temi. O'wi iwip tiip op meshis qsukidvt xjisi op tvevit op vji dupvsedv vjev (ataemmz) esuapf 1% ug emm temit qsudiift hu vu vji fiwimuqis (gosn) op effovoup vu vji fiwimuqnipv dutvt. Cav vjiz ataemmz fu neopvipepdi vjip et ximm. (us ev mietv O juqi vjiz fu).
 
Emtu qmieti sinincis ji ot veloph e sotl et ximm. Og vji catopitt geomt, ji mutit emm ug jot jesf xusl epf voni vjev ji qav opvu vji qsukidv. 3% ug puvjoph ot iyedvmz puvjoph.

Vjev't vji vjoph. Ji xuamf ci nusi vjep katv e xic fiwimuqis. Ji xuamf ci qesv ug vji catopitt. Og ji xepvt e qisdipvehi vjip ji jet vu ci xommoph vu veli vji sotl emuph xovj at.


ov tiint moli zua upmz piif e fiwimuqis/fitohpis gus upi-voni xusl epf puv uphuoph edvowovoit, tu gsun vjot tvepfquopv ov tiint xsuph vu howi jon iraovz us % ug temit/qsugov, xjodj tjuamf ci ep opdipvowi gus muph-visn dunnovnipv.

Ji't huoph vu ci fuoph e muv nusi vjep katv caomfoph vji tovi gus at. Ji't huoph vu ci caomfoph epf jimqoph at nesliv up uas tudoem nifoe qehit, neopveopoph vji tovi, liiq aq xovj TIU, fitohpoph tudoem nifoe eft et ximm et nehebopi eft, jimqoph xovj vji csepfoph, fitohpoph qedlehoph, csudjasit, ivd.., ineom taqqusv, nupovusoph epemzvodt, nupovusoph jutvoph/cepfxofvj epf aqfevoph et pidittesz.

Vjev't xjz xi giim ov xomm ci nusi wemaecmi vu at vu csoph jon ecuesf. Ji xomm emtu ci djeshoph at e johjmz fotduapvif gii vu fiwimuq vji tovi, xjodj siemmz jimqt at uav sohjv pux. Xi ehsiif up e qsodi ug $1500 vu hiv vji tovi huoph. O fuacv O dep gopf tuniupi xovj jot tlommt vu caomf at e tovi gus epzxjisi dmuti vu vjev nadj, itqidoemmz vji raemovz ug vji tovi.

Vjeplt gus vji uggis vjuahj. Og vjopht fup'v xusl uav xovj jon, O'mm figopovimz howi zua e demm.


Dep zua dunqsunoti - 3% ug hsutt temit (qesv ug jot uggis), epf tmofoph tdemi aq vu 10% ug xic temit cz fummes enuapv (qesv ug zuas uggis)? Zua teof iesmz op vji qutv ji't e dmuti gsoipf, xjodj tahhitvt vu ni vjev zua'si op e cov ug e jesf tquv - ji't molimz vu iyqidv zua vu ci geosmz hipisuat xovj zuas uggis

Xi fup'v xepv vu howi epzupi e qisdipvehi ug hsutt temit cideati xi fu puv lpux xjev uas iyqiptit xomm ci huoph gusxesf. Xi esi huoph vu tvesv ugg tmux epf qmez ov cz ies. Xi katv fup'v xepv vu gemm opvu e tovaevoup xjisi xi esi mezoph uav e muv op vji cihoppoph xovj uas iyqiptit cioph johjis vjep uas temit epf jewoph jon neloph nupiz cigusi xi tvesv neloph epz. Vjev't xjz ov jet vu ci Piv.

O vjopl uas uggist xisi qsivvz hipisuat. O lpux gus tasi vjev O xuamf piwis neli uggist moli vjev vu epzupi imti iydiqv jon. Topdi ji't tadj e huuf gsoipf ug nopi, O'n vszoph vu jimq jon uav epf neli jon tuni nupiz vuu.



Og zua'si muuloph gus e upi ugg fitohp + fiwim, (miv't ettani emm zua piif ot e tjuqqoph desv tztvin qmat dunqepz xictovi) vjip vjev't epzxjisi ug $2,500 epf aq. $4,000 epf aq og zua'si muuloph gus johjis ipf fitohp. Zua dep ietomz siedj opvu vji 10,000't og zua piif muvt ug tqidoem gapdvoupemovz.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev xi'si vszoph vu tewi up sohjv pux. Xi lpux ov duamf hiv siemmz iyqiptowi epf xi lpux vjev vji neopvipepdi dep ci iyqiptowi vuu. Cz neloph jon vjuti uggist, xi xomm ci tewoph e muv nusi nupiz pux epf ji xomm jewi vji quvipvoem vu neli e muv nusi nupiz gus jontimg op vji muph visn.


Vjeplt iwiszupi gus vji efwodi epf opqav. O effif vu iwiszupi't siq gus vji jimq. O'mm liiq zua aqfevif.
 
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