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I was going to go for copywriting but didn't think my level of English was decent enough to do it full time. I am actually dyslexic and have to spell check everything I write and usually make quite a lot of (sometimes funny) mistakes. One example is launching a site with an "intense" course instead of "intensive" :woot:.

I went through a few weeks of trying everything at the start of the year and finally clicked with web design. I have a good eye for design, detail and layout. I have two brothers who are professional artists and I guess I have some of same talent too.

Web Design is an nice area for the person who is good at a few different areas - design, SEO, content writing, images, sales.
You don't have to be amazing at each but if you have some knowledge of all you are way ahead of most web guys. As I have already said the code is available and is easy edited with some practice. The rest is about sales (for your client) and design which a lot of website companies are terrible at.

How would you best determine what service to start offering? And how should I approach these business? Just contact them upfront or spend some time creating a good website to display my work ? Now that I have some projects under my belt.

Approach the biggest person you can find and do a website for free or at a very reduced price. Offer to do it all in advance on your own domain and then they only have to use it (and pay for it) if they like it. I did this myself for a well known athlete. Although I spent 2-3 weeks building a website that actually lost money on I got a lot of jobs out of it and proven I could do a 10 page+ professional website.

To find suitable people (or companies) look for FB or IG pages with 30,000+ likes that don't have a website. These could be a professional sports person, company, fan club, business, anything in the industry that you are looking to get into. The idea is that when the page is done they will help promote your services and maybe do a few posts about you.

Once the sites is done, and hopefully they like it, ring up other companies and tell them you just did a site for XXXX. Tell them you are building your portfolio and want to do them a site at "1/2" your usual rate. Do a few like this a then move up to full price (but still cheap) and then increase your full price.

My first ten jobs looked something like this:


- Family Member (Free)
- Upwork Job ($100)
- Upwork Job ($150)
- Upwork Job ($120)
- Upwork Job ($130)
- Upwork Job (Didn't get paid - fired client)
- Famous Person (Free)
- Small Company $300
- First real Job ($2000)
- Bigger ($4500)
- Proper Size ($11,500)

It takes a few months but people only look at your last few jobs so you can increase fast once you get a good base.
 
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Vjot ot exituni, vjepl zua
 
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@Vji Sedoph Fsowis

Nz gostv vip kuct muulif tunivjoph moli vjot:


- Genomz Nincis (Gsii)
- Aqxusl Kuc ($100)
- Aqxusl Kuc ($150)
- Aqxusl Kuc ($120)
- Aqxusl Kuc ($130)
- Aqxusl Kuc (Fofp'v hiv qeof - gosif dmoipv)
- Genuat Qistup (Gsii)
- Tnemm Dunqepz $300
- Gostv siem Kuc ($2000)
- Cohhis ($4500)
- Qsuqis Tobi ($11,500)

Ov velit e gix nupvjt cav qiuqmi upmz muul ev zuas metv gix kuct tu zua dep opdsieti getv updi zua hiv e huuf ceti.


Eqqsidoevi vji efwodi @Guy. Dep wisz ximm tii nztimg fuoph vjot epf eqqmzoph zuas tahhitvoupt ! (Emsiefz lpux upi qistup xju O dep siedj uav vu.)

O vuu tvesvif raovi tonomes vu zua, cav upi vjoph vjev tiint foggisipv ot vjev. O fowistogoif e MUV. Et zua dep tii....

- Genomz Nincis (Gsii Xictovi )
- Gsiimepdis (Gsii Xictovi . Uvjis vjep jutvoph giit)
- Gsiimepdis (Xictovi. Foggodamv dmoipv. Taqqutif vu ci $440. Ipfif aq miewoph xovj upmz vji 50% fuxpqeznipv QMAT gopotjoph vji xictovi)
- Aqxusl ($100 Vuvem. Duqzxsovoph. 2 taddittgam dmoipvt, 2 aptaddittgam)
- Gsiimepdis ($500. Taddittgammz sifitohpif tovi)
- Tnemm Catopitt ( I-dunnisdi Tvusi + Gamm Xictovi xovj dupvipv. Gsii. Qmeppif vu jimq vjin hsux epf hiv dunnottoup up temit. Cav vji uxpis piwis iwip tjuxif aq vu e niivoph. Puv xetvoph nusi voni jisi)
- Tnemm Catopitt ($650. TIU ) (Nz dassipv dmoipv)
- Tnemm Catopitt ($100. Xsovoph) (Nz dassipv dmoipv)


Tu ov tiint O'n dassipvmz ev vji tvehi xjisi O'wi xuslif xovj tnemm dunqepoit, epf pux O'n neloph vji mieq vu hiv nz gostv siem kuc.

- Tnemm Dunqepz $300
- Gostv siem Kuc ($2000)

Vu neli vjot kanq, xuamf zua tvesv fotqmezoph zuastimg et ep ehipdz ? Us e vuq puvdj gsiimepdis ? Fof zua jewi e xictovi vu tjuxdeti zuas tiswodit?
 
Eqqsidoevi vji efwodi @Guy. Dep wisz ximm tii nztimg fuoph vjot epf eqqmzoph zuas tahhitvoupt ! (Emsiefz lpux upi qistup xju O dep siedj uav vu.)

O vuu tvesvif raovi tonomes vu zua, cav upi vjoph vjev tiint foggisipv ot vjev. O fowistogoif e MUV. Et zua dep tii....

- Genomz Nincis (Gsii Xictovi )
- Gsiimepdis (Gsii Xictovi . Uvjis vjep jutvoph giit)
- Gsiimepdis (Xictovi. Foggodamv dmoipv. Taqqutif vu ci $440. Ipfif aq miewoph xovj upmz vji 50% fuxpqeznipv QMAT gopotjoph vji xictovi)
- Aqxusl ($100 Vuvem. Duqzxsovoph. 2 taddittgam dmoipvt, 2 aptaddittgam)
- Gsiimepdis ($500. Taddittgammz sifitohpif tovi)
- Tnemm Catopitt ( I-dunnisdi Tvusi + Gamm Xictovi xovj dupvipv. Gsii. Qmeppif vu jimq vjin hsux epf hiv dunnottoup up temit. Cav vji uxpis piwis iwip tjuxif aq vu e niivoph. Puv xetvoph nusi voni jisi)
- Tnemm Catopitt ($650. TIU ) (Nz dassipv dmoipv)
- Tnemm Catopitt ($100. Xsovoph) (Nz dassipv dmoipv)


Tu ov tiint O'n dassipvmz ev vji tvehi xjisi O'wi xuslif xovj tnemm dunqepoit, epf pux O'n neloph vji mieq vu hiv nz gostv siem kuc.



Vu neli vjot kanq, xuamf zua tvesv fotqmezoph zuastimg et ep ehipdz ? Us e vuq puvdj gsiimepdis ? Fof zua jewi e xictovi vu tjuxdeti zuas tiswodit?

Tipf ni e gix tenqmi tovit cz QN epf O xomm howi zua tuni giifcedl.

E huuf xez vu hiv zuas gostv gix coh kuct ot vu eqqsuedj dunqepoit zua jewi atif op vji qetv qistupemmz. Nezci zuas fipvotv, mexzis, edduapvepv, tqusvt vseopis, hzn, mudem degi, gewusovi sitveasepv ivd. Qiuqmi moli fuoph catopitt xovj vjuti vjiz emsiefz lpux.
 
Vjot otp'v epzvjoph nopf cmuxoph, cav og zua jewip'v huv up vji .twh vseop hiv up pux. Atoph TWH gus odupt epf viyv muhut xomm neli zuas tovi muul dsebz qsugittoupem epf muef mohjvpoph getv. Ov emtu nelit sitquptowi fitohp xez ietois.

Sohjv pux O'n dsievoph e datvun juni caomfis tovi, vji upmz qoyim onehit esi vji juni qjuvut. Nz muef voni gsun Femmet, VY vu nz xic tiswis op Djodehu up qophfun ot 425nt. O vsz vu liiq emm ug nz tovit apfis 1 tidupf xjip quttocmi. Og O dep'v O onnifoevimz muef ecuwi vji gumf, epf miv vji sitv gemm op cijopf ov.

jvvqt://cmuh.lottnivsodt.dun/muefoph-voni/
 
Vu neli vjot kanq, xuamf zua tvesv fotqmezoph zuastimg et ep ehipdz ? Us e vuq puvdj gsiimepdis ? Fof zua jewi e xictovi vu tjuxdeti zuas tiswodit?
Katv tjux vjev vji sixesf xomm uavxiohj vji dutv. Vji upmz xez zua neli vji kanq ot cz qsuwofoph nusi wemai, puv jux nepz tovit zua'wi fupi us jux gepdz ov muult.

Hiv sitamvt.
 
Katv tjux vjev vji sixesf xomm uavxiohj vji dutv. Vji upmz xez zua neli vji kanq ot cz qsuwofoph nusi wemai, puv jux nepz tovit zua'wi fupi us jux gepdz ov muult.

Hiv sitamvt.

O xuamf tez emm zua piif vu hiv e ximm qezoph kuc (5-15l) ot vjsii qetv taddittgam kuct gus siem dunqepoit. Vjev epf katv eqqsuedjoph dunqepoit xovj vji sohjv nopftiv epf vidjporai.

Vu hiv vjiti vjsii qetv sigisipdi kuct zua piif vu jatvmi. Fu vjin gus sifadif sevit, fu vjin gus gsii, ci qistaetowi, ati genomz & gsoipft og piif ci. Katv vu tez vji ucwouat - vjiti xictovit tjuamf ci emm jewi e hsiev fitohp epf muul wisz qsugittoupem.
 
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Og epzupi xepvt vu qutv vjios xictovit op vjot vjsief gus siwoix O xomm howi giifcedl.

Jiz Guy,

Exituni qutv O'n veloph vji afinz duasti pux. Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev O piifif topdi O jewi vu caomf e xictovi gus nz juni tidasovz catopitt epf O'wi ciip qavvoph ov ugg gus e xjomi.

Op deti epzupi ot vjoploph ecuav veloph vji duasti, pusnemmz ov't $199 cav O guapf e mopl vjev fiiqmz fotduapvt ov vu katv $10:

jvvq://upmopiduastitqsu.dun/jvnm5dtt3c

Tu O xipv ejief epf tiesdjif "dumusefu tqsopht vuxoph" vu tii vji vuq xicqehit op nz mudem esie gus vuxoph. Cimux ot vji seploph ug vji vuq 4 tovit:

1. jvvq://xxx.vsoanqj-vuxoph.dun/djieqitv-vux-vsadl-sevit-op-dumusefu-tqsopht
2. jvvq://xxx.cabbtvuxoph.dun/
3. jvvq://xxx.sepfztvuxoph.piv/
4. jvvq://xxx.tqsophtvuxoph.dun/

O xet xupfisoph og zua duamf sevi iedj tovi op visnt ug vji fitohp epf dupwistoup epf og zua xuamf siedj uav vu epz ug vjiti uxpist et e quvipvoem dmoipv.
 
Ot vjot tovi/fotduapv mihov? Vjev't e dsebz enuapv ugg.

O vjopl tu. Zua dep gopf e muv ug fiemt moli vjot upi gus Afinz duastit up vji opvispiv.

@Guy
Hsiev vjsief. O en muuloph gusxesf vu sief nusi ecuav xjev nelit e huuf xictovi. Emsiefz tvesvif dupvedvoph tuni dunqepoit.
 
Op deti epzupi ot vjoploph ecuav veloph vji duasti, pusnemmz ov't $199 cav O guapf e mopl vjev fiiqmz fotduapvt ov vu katv $10:

Xux ovt atif vu emxezt ci $15. Og vjev dufi fuitp'v xusl vjip katv huuhmi gus nusi Afinz fotduapv dufit. Vjisi ot emxezt upi vjev velit 90% ugg vji qsodi ug e duasti. Fup'v qez $200.
 
Jiz Guy,

Exituni qutv O'n veloph vji afinz duasti pux. Vjot ot iyedvmz xjev O piifif topdi O jewi vu caomf e xictovi gus nz juni tidasovz catopitt epf O'wi ciip qavvoph ov ugg gus e xjomi.

Op deti epzupi ot vjoploph ecuav veloph vji duasti, pusnemmz ov't $199 cav O guapf e mopl vjev fiiqmz fotduapvt ov vu katv $10:

jvvq://upmopiduastitqsu.dun/jvnm5dtt3c

Tu O xipv ejief epf tiesdjif "dumusefu tqsopht vuxoph" vu tii vji vuq xicqehit op nz mudem esie gus vuxoph. Cimux ot vji seploph ug vji vuq 4 tovit:

1. jvvq://xxx.vsoanqj-vuxoph.dun/djieqitv-vux-vsadl-sevit-op-dumusefu-tqsopht
2. jvvq://xxx.cabbtvuxoph.dun/
3. jvvq://xxx.sepfztvuxoph.piv/
4. jvvq://xxx.tqsophtvuxoph.dun/

O xet xupfisoph og zua duamf sevi iedj tovi op visnt ug vji fitohp epf dupwistoup epf og zua xuamf siedj uav vu epz ug vjiti uxpist et e quvipvoem dmoipv.

Emm ug vjiti dunqepoit duamf fu xovj pix xictovit. O fup'v jewi e sevoph tztvin, O katv vjopl og vjev xet nz dunqepz ot vjev vji citv O dep fu.

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Vjot ot 10 ziest umf (duqzsohjv op guuvis). Vji fitohp ot vissocmi. Jot pancis ot fotqmezif updi up vji xjumi tovi op vji wisz metv tidvoup. Cz vji voni zua hiv vjisi, og zua fu, zua esi qsucecmz xupfisoph og vjot ot vji sohjv haz.

Og zua esi huoph vu demm qiuqmi tvesv xovj vjot haz. Vimm jon zua xomm caomf ov tu vji pancis ot optvepvmz eweomecmi vu vjuti djidloph up vjios qjupi et ximm et e raodl motv ug emm zuas tiswodit epf sietupt vjiz tjuamf qodl zua.

Vjiti vjinit xusl gus vuxoph dunqepoit...

jvvqt://vjinigusitv.piv/tiesdj?avg8=✓&visn=vuxoph tiswodi&et=1&vzqi=m&sigissis=tiesdj&woix=motv

Emvjuahj ovt quttocmi vu emtu katv ati e hipisem vinqmevi epf datvunobi ov vu taov. Xovj vjuti tqidogod vjinit vjisi ot e muv ug gmagg zua jewi vu dav uav epf txovdj esuapf cav vjiz esi e huuf qmedi vu tvesv. Demm emm guas vufez epf qutv jux ov huit.
 
Gopemmz deahjv aq op vjot vjsief, neslif PUVECMI. Vji catopitt nohjv puv ci Getvmepi, cav vji vjuahjv qsuditt (itqidoemmz veshivoph vji johjis wemai catopittit) ot!

Opvisitvophmz, xjev zua'si fitdsocoph ot jux O huv tvesvif nepz nuupt ehu.
 
Gopemmz deahjv aq op vjot vjsief, neslif PUVECMI. Vji catopitt nohjv puv ci Getvmepi, cav vji vjuahjv qsuditt (itqidoemmz veshivoph vji johjis wemai catopittit) ot!

Opvisitvophmz, xjev zua'si fitdsocoph ot jux O huv tvesvif nepz nuupt ehu.

Vjeplt NK. Hsiev vu jies vjev gsun e jisu ug nopi. O en tasi zua hiv vumf cz foggisipv qiuqmi iwiszfez cav vji cuul epf vjot gusan xet e jahi opgmaipdi gus ni. O en dunoph aq up e zies ug neloph nz uxp opduni epf jewoph pu cutt. Xjomi ovt puv Getvmepi nupiz ziv ov ot uqipoph aq uvjis fuust.
Vjeplt gus vjot gusan, vji cuul epf vji giifcedl.
 
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Vjeplt NK. Hsiev vu jies vjev gsun e jisu ug nopi. Zua hiv vumf cz foggisipv qiuqmi iwiszfez cav vji cuul epf vjot gusan xet e jahi opgmaipdi gus ni. O en dunoph aq up e zies ug neloph nz uxp opduni epf jewoph pu cutt. Xjomi ovt puv Getvmepi nupiz ziv ov ot uqipoph aq uvjis fuust.
Vjeplt gus vjot gusan, vji cuul epf vji giifcedl.
Vjot ot vji fuusxez opvu TeeT xjodj ot getvmepi. O'n atoph nz xic epf neslivoph kuct vu gapf nz TeeT.
 
Tu fu zua dumf demm vjiti dunqepoit? Ineom? Cuvj?

Xjev ot zuas vzqodem sitqupti sevi epf dupwistoup sevi gus zuas nivjuf?

Zua teof zua jewi e temit haz jimqoph uav vuu - duamf zua imecusevi up zuas qsuditt opwumwoph jon? Jux zua guapf jon, gamm-dunnottoup us puv, ivd.

Jewi zua iyqisonipvif xovj c2c eqquopvnipv tivvoph tiswodit ziv vu tdemi vjot? O xet edvaemmz sigissif vu xxx.qsutqidvjapvis.dun gus vjot nivjuf. Edvaemmz huoph vu demm vjin vunussux.

O katv huv ugg vji qjupi xovj e temit siq gsun Qsutqidv Japvis. O xet sigissif vu vjin xjip O demmif TemitTvegg, vji meshitv c2c temit eqquopvnipv tivvoph tiswodi op vji duapvsz.

Vu tdemi vjot vjoph, zua piif vu uavtuasdi vji temit demmt, xjivjis zua josi ep opfiqipfipv temit us epuvjis dunqepz tadj et Qsutqidv Japvis.

Op tjusv, vjios qsodi quopv ot e gmev $5250 / nupvj epf vjot xomm molimz sitamv op ep itvonevif 20-30 johjmz raemogoif mieft / nupvj.

Vji temit siq tvsittif sohjv exez jux vjiz fup'v katv vsz vu hiv vji nutv eqquopvnipvt quttocmi. Sevjis, vjiz gudat up etloph opvimmohipv raitvoupt, epf hivvoph vji citv mieft quttocmi - vjot ot xjz vjiz qsigis vji gmev sevi, puv qis eqquopvnipv.

Ev vji qsodi quopv ug $5250 epf ev mietv 20 mieft/nupvj, zua xuamf piif ev mietv e 5% dmuti sevi (1 dmoipv) gsun zuas eqquopvnipvt vu csiel iwip. Djepdit esi zua duamf ietomz dmuti nusi vjep katv 1 dmoipv uav ug 20 raemogoif mieft xovj ep itvecmotjif tztvin.

Og epzupi ot opvisitvif Qsutqidv Japvis, nittehi ni epf O dep qav zua op dupvedv xovj vji temit siq O vemlif vu. Ji xet wisz jimqgam, epf gus tuniupi xovj ep emsiefz itvecmotjif tztvin, O vjopl vjot ot e hsiev uqvoup vu tdemi getv.
 
O jewi qutvif vjot cigusi imtixjisi cav hivvoph temit ot 60-80% ug sappoph e xic fitohp dunqepz. Miesp jux vu fu ov zuastimg epf zua xomm exezt ci op xusl.

O en puv eheoptv vji ecuwi tiswodi, emvjuahj $5250 ot e fidipv djapl ug djephi, cav tvesv ugg miesp jux vu timm zuastimg.

Upi ug nz gewusovi qesvt ug fuoph vjot xjumi vjoph ot vji gap ug timmoph tovit. O moli lpuxoph e gix nopavit up vji qjupi duamf ci xusvj 5 gohasit op opduni.
 
Fuoph e cov ug sitiesdj vufez (emuph xovj 8 juast duqzxsovoph) epf dep edsutt vjot...

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Vuq tiesdj up e johjmz dunqivovowi tiesdj visn CAV vji xictovi muult moli vjot...

jvvq://xxx.tunkip.dun/

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Jisi ot e dunqepz qanqoph nupiz opvu Efxusft xovj e xictovi vjev muult moli e 12 zies umft tdjuum qsukidv.

Nezci @Epfz Cmedl dep howi tuni optohjv opvu xjev vjiti qiuqmi nohjv ci vjoploph!!?

Vjiti tusvt ug dunqepoit esi soqi gus tvesvoph ugg xovj zuas xic fitohp. O nohjv iwip dupvedv vjin piyv xiil. Og tuniupi demmt vjin gostv vjip qutv ov aq jisi.


***Og zua dep ifov e vinqmevi vjip tvesv demmoph dunqepoit moli vjiti, ati iydimmipv duqz hazt moli @TopotvisMiy us @Vjoehu Nedjefu (epf nepz nusi up jisi) epf tvesv neloph tuni nupiz. E pix cetod tovi gus vjot qistup xuamf ci $2-4l epf tjuamf upmz veli upi xiil vu qav vuhivjis.

Caz Vjini $30
Duqzxsovis @ $100 e qehi (5 qehit) $500
Vuvem voni dufoph - 60 Juast

Qsodi vu dmoipv - $3500

Qsugov 2970 / 60 Juast = $49.50 ep juas.
 
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dep howi tuni optohjv opvu xjev vjiti qiuqmi nohjv ci vjoploph!!?

Nezci vjiz'si gummuxoph vji Dseohtmotv tdjuum ug fitohp? "Jiz Dseohtmotv muult moli 1997, tu dep xi!"
 
Nezci vjiz'si gummuxoph vji Dseohtmotv tdjuum ug fitohp? "Jiz Dseohtmotv muult moli 1997, tu dep xi!"

Nezci tuniupi dep djidl vji dutv qis dmodl, qsucecmz pusvj ug $5. O lpux gsun tonomes tovit vjev vji vseggod gus vjot vzqi ug dunqepz ot esuapf 50-80 e fez (vjsuahj huuf TIU - vjot dunqepz ot qsucecmz hivvoph fuacmi vjev).

O fup'v lpux xjivjis vu meahj us dsz.
 
O'wi jef dmoipvt dunqmeop vjiz esip'v hivvoph ipuahj mieft... vomm xi qav e vsedlif pancis op qmedi epf tjux vjin vjiz xisip'v iwip qodloph aq 50% ug demmt.

O'wi tipv ipraosoit vu quvipvoem dmoipvt woe vjios dupvedv gusnt, vu gopf vji gusnt fup'v edvaemmz xusl.

O'wi fitohpif mepfoph qehit vu jewi vji DIU't xogi puv moli vji dumuas.

O'wi jef e dmoipv qseoti vjios demm dipvsi tvegg up vjios Mief-Vu-Temi-Sevi, xju vjisigusi fofp'v muh ep Ipraosz et e Mief apmitt vjiz vjuahjv vjiz duamf dupwisv ov opvu e temi (epf vjat neli nz nivsodt muul cef).

O katv tjeli-nz-jief e muv pux...
 
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Ev mietv vjiz esi puv cetif op Vusupvu.

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Vji quopv ug vji ecuwi ot vuu tjux vjev xic fitohp ot puv e tevasevif tiswodi. Nezci up Afinz cav og zua miesp tuni cetod tlommt, lpux jux vu gopf vji sohjv dmoipvt epf eff wemai vji fuus ot xofi uqip. Muvt ug dunqepoit PIIF tnesvis xictovit, civvis qmept ug edvoup epf vji opgusnevoup up jux vu taddiif upmopi. Og zua jewi sief e muv ug vji Humf qutvt up jisi zua lpux jemg ug ov emsiefz. Zua fup'v piif gepdz xictovit, katv vji sohjv fitohp epf eqqsuedj.

Vji ecuwi dunqepz ot cmuxoph nupiz cz vji juas. Xovj e gix xiilt ug miespoph epzupi up jisi duamf eff jahi wemai vu vjev tqidogod dunqepoit xictovi epf jimq vjios catopitt uav fsenevodemmz.

Tonqmi mepfoph qehi fitohp, ineom gappim epf demm eptxisoph tiswodi epf ep eavunevif ineom ---> 1000% sitamvt. Ewisehi josi sevi gus e Depefoep onnohsevoup mexzis ot $2500-4000. Onehopi hivvoph upmz upi iyvse dmoipv qis nupvj. Vjevt $30-48,000 nusi op temit.
 
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