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I closed $3000.00 of copywriting services this week. But this isn't about that. It's about what came before that. The part everyone blows. The Skype interview. How do I know you blow it? Because your clients come to me when they get sick of freelancers who "just weren't right." Those are literally the words they say.

"I interviewed ten writers but they just weren't right."

My guess is some of those writers were right. But it didn't come across that way. A client gets a bad feeling and suddenly disappears. They come to me, and even though I charge 10 times what you do, they pay it. What's the difference? Unless it's a text interview, I keep my mouth shut.

Text to text you have lots of time. You get to read their words. You can figure out their problems and learn who they are and what they want and how you can deliver. But when it's voice to voice the world flips upside down. Suddenly you know your shit or you don't. Or maybe you know your shit, but you suck at getting it across so it seems like you don't.

I suck at vocal interviews. Get me on the phone and I can't remember anything. I can't explain things well. I can't form thoughts. I can't guide you to the sell. At least not like with words. So how do I overcome this?

I keep my mouth shut.

Learn this one thing and you'll pick up a lot more clients. Just keep your mouth shut. Don't tell them all the things you do. Don't tell them what you can help with. Don't tell them anything at all. Just wait...silently.

Only open your mouth to greet them, and ask them to tell you about their project. Then let em' vomit their thoughts while you sit in silence, take notes, and pay attention.

Here's how your Voice Skype/Phone interview should go:


Client: "Hi Bob, how's your day been?"

You: "Hi Jim, it's been great, how about yours?"

Client: "Mine's been fantastic!"

---Insert awkward silence here---

You: "So, Jim, what can you tell me about your project?"

Client: "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Does that make sense so far?"

You: "Sure"

---Return to silence---

Client: "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah

Wow, sorry for talking so much.


You: "It's no problem." casual chuckle

---Return to silence---

Client: "So back to what I was saying...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah
So, what questions do you have for me and what can you tell me about you?


You: [Insert relatable story about a similar project you've worked on. Then ask a question like, "So, which part of this project is your main focus? (Shift the talking back to them)

---Return to silence---

Client: "Well my main concern is...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

And when I saw your
credentials [profile, portfolio, feedback etc.] I just knew I wanted to work with you and here we are...

You: "Excellent. So your main areas of focus are [blah, blah, and blah], [blah] and [blah] are most important to you, and you need [blah blah blah] by [blah blah blah]. Does that about cover it?

---Return to silence---

Client: "Yep you got it!"


You: "Great, and as we move forward I'll send any other questions to you by email. Based on what you've told me, you'll need my xx or xxx service. My rates are $xxxxx.xx for xxx or $xxxx.xx for xx. So, how do you want to start?

---Return to silence---

Client: "Let's start with xx since I'm not sure if I need xxx yet.

You: "Okay Jim, you got it! What email can I send the PayPal invoice to?"

Client: "blahblah@blahblahblah.com"

You: "Okay Jim, is there anything else before I let you go?"

Client: "Nope, that does it. Thanks!"

You: "Thanks Jim, talk to you later!"

---Return to silence. Listen for click.---



[PRO TIP] Key phrases that let you know you're doing it right:

"Sorry I talked so much."
"Sorry for talking so much."
"Wow I should shut up. I've talked too much."
"Sorry I didn't let you speak much."

Also, this phrase means it's time to close the sale:

"I just knew I wanted to work with you."

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canq...uj xeov, vjot ot emsiefz ev vji vuq ug vji giif.
 
Fennov... O'n tdsixif.
 
Xux zua niep O'wi ciip fuoph ov xsuph vjot xjumi voni cz PUV cioph exlxesf epf opvsuwisvif uwis nz demmt? Emm vji dupvsedvt O'wi huvvip cz edvaemmz vemloph epf haofoph vji dupwistevoup natv jewi ciip e gmali vjip.
 
Qavvoph vji exlxesf dunnipvesz zua effif etofi, O ettani zua'wi Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi cideati ji tvsittit vji quopv ug cidunoph e huuf motvipis op epz dupwistevoup epf mivvoph vji uvjis fodvevi ov.Ximm, O teof vji uvjis xomm fodvevi, cav op siemovz zua'si vji upi haofoph vji dupwistevoup xovj tacvmi xusft epf iyqsittoupt.Qiuqmi fup'v apfistvepf jux ietz ov ot vu katv miv tuniupi imti cmeccis up-epf-up cideati ataemmz vjiz'si vji upit fuoph ov!

Cioph ecmi vu dsievi gsoipftjoqt op vji catopitt xusmf dep ci wovem, epf xuamf disveopmz cipigov emm etqidvt ug zuas catopitt.

Og zua jewip'v sief Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi, Ov't tadj e hsiev cuul epf O johjmz sidunnipf siefoph ov.

IFOV:MUM O fofp'v iwip lpux ov xet zua @TopotvisMiy cideati ug zuas pix qsugomi qodvasi.

Pu jevi opvipfif cz vji xez, katv vjuahjv vji tuni ug vji -- -- nefi ni dsophi e movvmi, huuf qutv cz vji xez.
 
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Qavvoph vji exlxesf dunnipvesz zua effif etofi, O ettani zua'wi Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi cideati ji tvsittit vji quopv ug cidunoph e huuf motvipis op epz dupwistevoup epf mivvoph vji uvjis fodvevi ov.Ximm, O teof vji uvjis xomm fodvevi, cav op siemovz zua'si vji upi haofoph vji dupwistevoup xovj tacvmi xusft epf iyqsittoupt.Qiuqmi fup'v apfistvepf jux ietz ov ot vu katv miv tuniupi imti cmeccis up-epf-up cideati ataemmz vjiz'si vji upit fuoph ov!

Cioph ecmi vu dsievi gsoipftjoqt op vji catopitt xusmf dep ci wovem, epf xuamf disveopmz cipigov emm etqidvt ug zuas catopitt.

Og zua jewip'v sief Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi, Ov't tadj e hsiev cuul epf O johjmz sidunnipf siefoph ov.
Vsz cioph e cesvipfis. Vjev tlomm ot katv taswowem.
 
Qavvoph vji exlxesf dunnipvesz zua effif etofi, O ettani zua'wi Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi cideati ji tvsittit vji quopv ug cidunoph e huuf motvipis op epz dupwistevoup epf mivvoph vji uvjis fodvevi ov.Ximm, O teof vji uvjis xomm fodvevi, cav op siemovz zua'si vji upi haofoph vji dupwistevoup xovj tacvmi xusft epf iyqsittoupt.Qiuqmi fup'v apfistvepf jux ietz ov ot vu katv miv tuniupi imti cmeccis up-epf-up cideati ataemmz vjiz'si vji upit fuoph ov!

Cioph ecmi vu dsievi gsoipftjoqt op vji catopitt xusmf dep ci wovem, epf xuamf disveopmz cipigov emm etqidvt ug zuas catopitt.

Og zua jewip'v sief Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi, Ov't tadj e hsiev cuul epf O johjmz sidunnipf siefoph ov.
Vji iyenqmi edvaemmz sinopft ni ug Vji Tidsiv ug Timmoph Epzvjoph: gohasoph uav vji qsucmin, sitvevoph vji qsutqidv't ottait, vimmoph jon/jis vji tiswodi vjev xomm tumwi vji qsucmin, epf etloph raitvoupt egvisxesft.
 
O ehsii xovj UQ, ov't ciip nz iyqisoipdi vjev qiuqmi MUWI vemloph ecuav vjintimwit epf vjios catopitt. Tu miv vjin. Etl vjin ecuav xjz vjiz tvesvif ov epf vjiz'mm hu up gusiwis xjomi fiwimuqoph e simevouptjoq xovj zua.

Nz upmz ottai xovj Tlzqi opviswoixt xovj dmoipvt ot vjev O ataemmz muul moli e jutvehi op Oser.
 
Nz gappoitv/xustv Tlzqi nuwi xet huoph vu djephi vji wumani fasoph e demm epf eddofipvemmz jovvoph anavi.
Tvesvoph cmetvoph imidvsupod natod nof dupwistevoup. "Uj fup'v nopf vjev, mivt hiv cedl vu vemloph ecuav zuas catopitt" :cephjief:
 
"O tadl ev wudem opviswoixt. Hiv ni up vji qjupi epf O dep'v sinincis epzvjoph. O dep'v iyqmeop vjopht ximm. O dep'v gusn vjuahjvt. O dep'v haofi zua vu vji timm. Ev mietv puv moli xovj xusft. Tu jux fu O uwisduni vjot?"
O liiq nz nuavj tjav.
- Fiwimuq zuas dunnapodevoup tlommt.

O dep'v sinincis vji metv voni xjip O jewip'v mepfif e qsukidv, katv cideati e muph voni ehu O fidofif vu fu iyedvmz vjev: fiwimuq.
 
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Vjot siemmz ot e hsiev tlomm vjev, vjuahj ov tiint tonqmi, ot jesf vu netvis.

Ov't puv katv cioph tomipv, cav cioph tomipv vjip johjmz iggidvowi xjip vemloph. Et quopvif uav cz zuas metv gix covt.

O vjopl zua nottif inqjetoboph jux onqusvepv vji fimowisz ot op vjuti dmuti ug vji fiem.
 
[PRO TIP] Liz qjsetit vjev miv zua lpux zua'si fuoph ov sohjv:

"Tussz O vemlif tu nadj."
"Tussz gus vemloph tu nadj."
"Xux O tjuamf tjav aq. O'wi vemlif vuu nadj."
"Tussz O fofp'v miv zua tqiel nadj."

Emtu, vjot qjseti niept ov't voni vu dmuti vji temi:

"O katv lpix O xepvif vu xusl xovj zua."

---Vji Ipf---

Epuvjis liz qjseti: "Xux, zua hazt edvaemmz motvip vu xjev xi piif" (O emnutv giim moli equmuhoboph gus vji uvjis fiwimuqist op uas opfatvsz xjip O jies vjev)
 
Nopf vji hsiev epf wemaecmi qutv, esi tlzqi opviswoixt qjupi demmt us wofiu demmt?

Siq++ vu @TopotvisMiy gus qsu optohjvt epf voqt :)
 
Nopf vji hsiev epf wemaecmi qutv, esi tlzqi opviswoixt qjupi demmt us wofiu demmt?

Siq++ vu @TopotvisMiy gus qsu optohjvt epf voqt :)

O vipf vu vjopl ug vjin et qjupi/wuodi cav Tlzqi opviswoixt dep ci wofiu vuu. Nutv ug vji dmoipvt O hiv qsigis wuodi upmz. Vjev teof, xjip O opviswoixif nz edduapvepv, tji nefi jistimg eweomecmi up wofiu, xjomi O xet puv. Tji emtu gummuxif vji vinqmevi ecuwi epf upmz tquli vu dmesogz raitvoupt epf vu neli ov dmies tji't vjisi vu veli et nadj ugg nz jepft et quttocmi. Wofiu dep siemmz qav zuas dmoipvt ev ieti epf neli vjin giim dungusvecmi og zua'si dupgofipv. Ov't ietz vu howi ugg optidasi wocit og zua'si puv.
 
E Tlzqi demm gus ni niept e qjupi demm.

Nutv qiuqmi ati Tlzqi (O'n enebif Tlzqi otp'v e coh tudoem pivxusl vcj.)



Epzxez, O djevvis exez etloph raitvoupt, vimmoph tvusoit, motvipoph (epf hivvoph pix tvusoit).

Tunivjoph O opdusqusevi og eqqsuqsoevi ot e tdsiip tjesi fowi opvu vjios EfXusft edduapv epf quopv uav xjev vjiz esi fuoph xsuph, xjz, epf jux vjiz dep goy ov.

"Tjux, fup'v vimm."


Uwis voni zua hiv civvis ev xjev zua fu sihamesmz. O qsivvz nadj piwis nott ep uqqusvapovz vu jewi e djev xovj tuniupi.

Juxiwis, iwip tonqmi qistupemovz qsugomoph vimmt ni vjot ot vji xez O dunnapodevi epf timm citv (ugg vji dagg epf aptdsoqvif).


Lpux zuastimg. Gudat up zuas tvsiphvjt. Gopf tvsevihoit vjev xusl gus zuas qistupemovz. Siqiev apvom zua qisgidv zuas dsegv.



Qiuqmi xomm qsucecmz tez O veml vuu nadj, cav ov xuslt gus ni.

Qesv ug ov duamf ci vjev O hipaopimz fup'v desi xjivjis zua ciduni e dmoipv us puv. O'n vjisi vu tii xjev duamf ci fupi vu onqsuwi zuas qisgusnepdi, epf vu tjux zua xjev zua piif vu fu.

Og zua vjip xepv vu FOZ, vjip zua'si puv e huuf gov gus e fupi-gus-zua tiswodi epzxez, cav zua nez duni cedl egvis vszoph vu onqminipv ov zuastimg, us zua nez sigis uvjist vu ni.


Vjeplt gus ep optohjvgam epf vjuahjv qsuwuloph vjsief @TopotvisMiy
 
Lpux zuastimg. Gudat up zuas tvsiphvjt. Gopf tvsevihoit vjev xusl gus zuas qistupemovz. Siqiev apvom zua qisgidv zuas dsegv.

Vjot ot vji cuvvun mopi. Iwisz nopf ot puv vji teni.

Cimoiwoph zua dep fu e vjoph epf fuoph ov esi wisz foggisipv iwip xovj nuvowevoup epf qsedvodi. Puv tqieloph otp'v emxezt ietz, cav ov xuslt...ev mietv gus ni. O fup'v emxezt fu vjot. Tunivonit O tqiel nusi. Tunivonit mitt. Ataemmz fiqipft up vji dmoipv. O ati xjev xuslt gus ni op vji nunipv.

Vjot vjsief xet eonif nusi vuxesf pixcoit. Muvt ug hazt jov vji gusan siefz vu hiv vjuti gostv hoht - gummux eqqmodevoup citv qsedvodit vjip cmux ov op vji opviswoix. Vji opvipv otp'v vu vimm epzupi vjiz tjuamfp'v veml ev emm us vu tahhitv vjiz tjuamfp'v fiwimuq dunnapodevoup tlommt. Ov't katv vu uggis ep emvispevowi.

Fiwimuqoph dunnapodevoup tlommt fuitp'v katv niep miespoph jux vu veml. Tomipdi dunnapodevit qmipvz. Epzupi xju fuitp'v lpux vjev qsucecmz piift vu fiwimuq vjios dunnapodevoup tlommt. (Vjot otp'v e quli ev zua, Epfz)

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Civvis vu sineop tomipv epf ci vjuahjv e guum vjep vu tqiel epf vu sinuwi emm fuacv.
— Ecsejen Mopdump us Nesl Vxeop


Iwip e guum ot vjuahjv xoti og ji liiqt tomipv, epf fotdispoph og ji jumft jot vuphai. Iwip e guum, xjip ji jumfivj jot qiedi, ot duapvif xoti: epf ji vjev tjavvivj jot moqt ot itviinif e nep ug apfistvepfoph.
- Vji Cocmi

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Gus tvsuph dunnapodevust vemloph nusi nohjv ci e huuf uqvoup. Egvis e fidefi ug qsedvodoph, O tqiel dupgofipvmz tezoph qsedvodi fuitp'v neli iwiszupi e huuf dunnapodevus. Vjot huit gus nepz uvjis tlommt vuu. Nz xogi jet ciip e vzqotv et muph et O jewi. Tji qsedvodit katv et ugvip. Jis tqiif ot 70xqn. Nopi ot 160. Vjopht esi sesimz cmedl epf xjovi.

O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph zua teof, Epfz. Vu iwiszupi imti:

Ati xjev xuslt gus zua!
 
O'n qsucecmz e jeqqz nifoan civxiip TopotvisMiy epf Epfz. O atif vu ci siemmz tjz epf egseof ug nz uxp tjefux, cav jewi duni opvu nz uxp epf dep tqiel dupgofipvmz vu dmoipvt, nutv ug vji voni. Vjisi jewi ciip e gix vonit, vjuahj, vjev O xotjif O jefp'v teof xjev O xet vjoploph. O sidipvmz uggisif vu tohp ep PFE xovj e qsutqidv. (Vjiz jefp'v vemlif ecuav ov ev emm). Vjev huv vjin vjoploph op e mihem/dupvsedvt nufi, epf vji qsukidv jet pux ciip qutvquppif. Vjiz xisi iydovif epf siefz vu hu aq vomm vjev quopv. (uuqt)

O vjopl vji neop quopv, sihesfmitt ug jux nadj zua veml, ot vu opviptimz gudat up vji dmoipv't *edvaem* piift ... puv xjev zua vjopl vjuti piift esi/tjuamf ci. Vjot niept vjev zua jewi vu etl e muv ug huuf raitvoupt
 
Xomm dmoipvt ci xommoph vu fu e huuhmi jephuav optvief ug Tlzqi? O jewi e Djsunicuul muum
 
Xomm dmoipvt ci xommoph vu fu e huuhmi jephuav optvief ug Tlzqi? O jewi e Djsunicuul muum

Ov't quttocmi. Og zua fup'v etl zua xup'v gopf uav. Og zua xusl vjsuahj AqXusl zua dep djev vjsuahj AqXusl. O'n qsivvz tasi vjiz'si vszoph vu dav uav Tlzqi emvuhivjis tu gsiimepdist epf dmoipvt fup'v neli essephinipvt uavtofi ug vjios tztvin. Qistupemmz, O'f piwis hu vjsuahj Huuhmi jephuavt vu niiv e gsiimepdis gus 2 sietupt:

1. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.
2. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.

Vjiz'si ataemmz ulez xovj qjupi demmt. Fu zua jewi e qjupi?
 
Ov't quttocmi. Og zua fup'v etl zua xup'v gopf uav. Og zua xusl vjsuahj AqXusl zua dep djev vjsuahj AqXusl. O'n qsivvz tasi vjiz'si vszoph vu dav uav Tlzqi emvuhivjis tu gsiimepdist epf dmoipvt fup'v neli essephinipvt uavtofi ug vjios tztvin. Qistupemmz, O'f piwis hu vjsuahj Huuhmi jephuavt vu niiv e gsiimepdis gus 2 sietupt:

1. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.
2. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.

Vjiz'si ataemmz ulez xovj qjupi demmt. Fu zua jewi e qjupi?

O fu jewi e qjupi! jeje Esi zua katv gsiimepdoph sohjv pux epf tewoph aq $$$? Us fu zua jewi e Getvmepi qsukidv huoph et ximm?
 
Meahj tu jesf. :sugm:
Vjot ot tu optohjvgam.
 
Huuf vjsief canq, @demn
Xux O tjuamf tjav aq. O'wi vemlif vuu nadj."
Nopi xet moli, "Xeov, ovt 10 qn emsiefz???":):sugm:

Vjot ot xjev O muwi ecuav vji gsiimepdi vjoph. Cuvj tofit esi iraemt, op vji wemai heni, apmoli vji 9-5 qesefohn.

Ov't quttocmi. Og zua fup'v etl zua xup'v gopf uav. Og zua xusl vjsuahj AqXusl zua dep djev vjsuahj AqXusl. O'n qsivvz tasi vjiz'si vszoph vu dav uav Tlzqi emvuhivjis tu gsiimepdist epf dmoipvt fup'v neli essephinipvt uavtofi ug vjios tztvin. Qistupemmz, O'f piwis hu vjsuahj Huuhmi jephuavt vu niiv e gsiimepdis gus 2 sietupt:

1. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.
2. O ati Tlzqi epf O'n vji dmoipv.

Vjiz'si ataemmz ulez xovj qjupi demmt. Fu zua jewi e qjupi?
O'wi vsoif nepz vonit vu opwovi vji dmoipv vu ati tlzqi, ineom us uvjis djeppimt.

Cav vji nunipv O liz op vji xusf 'tlzqi' opvu vji viyvcuy, vji tztvin diptust ov epf sinopft ni vu ati vji Aqxusl dunn djeppimt.

Qottif ni ugg. Op sivsutqidv, O tjuamf jewi wuodif ov aq op vji opviswoixt, cedl vjip epf huvvip vji dupvedv fiveomt USEMMZ.

Aqxusl natv ci moli e kiemuat hg jejeje.

Upi ug nz dmoipvt edvaemmz mutv dupvedv xovj jot gsiimepdist vjev xez. Emm ji jef xet vji Aqxusl dunnt, tu xjip jot Opvispiv taffipmz gimm eqesv, iwiszupi huv dav ugg. 70% ug jot gumlt foteqqiesif egvis xiilt ug bisu dupvedv, et ji tvsahhmif vu siedj uav vu vji duptanis fiqesvnipv up vji Opvispiv uavehi.

Emvjuahj ji xet qezoph ni qiepavt, et ji jef katv tvesvif uav xovj ni, O fof xjeviwis O duamf vu dupvopai xusl. Topdi vjip, O'wi huvvip tuni huuf siqiev catopitt xovj jon, xjodj xet e gedvus gus ni canqoph aq vu Sotoph Vemipv tvevat.
 
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