How to stop getting abused by people?

[Deleted78083]

TLDR: Some people in life are particularly perverse and will abuse you and your kindness and when you realize it happened, it's too late.

How do you prevent this from happening?

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The full story:

IMPORTANT NOTE: THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL POST. We are not arguing political views here, I just told the story how it happened. The rules of the forum say we cannot discuss politics. Please comply. Thank you : )

My roommate invited some friends of hers for dinner yesterday night. I joined them at the end of the dinner because I wanted to work on my projects.

When I entered the room, I said hi to everyone, and took a seat. What followed happened fast and without me opening my mouth.

My roommate started saying out loud that I had complained earlier that I valued things less when they were easy to get than when they were hard (because I got an internship in a praised political institution and while I was happy at first, I told her my realization that it wasn't as hard to get as I thought it would be decreased the value I hold in the internship).

One guy, which I had never met before, found that outrageous. He started a monologue:
"Yeah, but you know, you can complain of that because you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, you f*cking capitalists. Me, I never had the right to not care about money. It's always there. I never even thought about doing an internship where you will do yours. This is why I had to work 15 years as a bartender. Where do you find the money to pay your rent? Huh? Where do you find it?"

I was paralyzed. I didn't know what to answer because I didn't expect to be attacked by someone I did not know...in my living room. I answered the truth, that I wasn't paying any rent at the moment because I was staying with a family member. That made him even angrier.

"Yeah, you got a silver spoon in your f*cking mouth, you have the luxury not to think about money, you never had to, you never will".

I started shaking. I stood up and told him to wait 2 minutes. Everyone saw I was angry. The atmosphere got tense.

I went to get my computer, came back and showed him a draft of blog post I had written. I wanted him to read the two sentences where I explain running out of money is my number one fear, way ahead of death and public speaking due to my money-tight childhood (why do you think I ended up on this forum lol).

Then he said "hey chill out, we're discussing, I am not attacking you or anything".

I was angry. I was really angry. I had let my guard down (I was in my own apartment for crying out loud) and had been attacked as a result. I walked straight into a trap that that idiot had laid for me.

It took me three hours to fall asleep that night, because I was angry at myself for having been abused so easily.

I figure that this type of abusive and passive-agressive behavior happens often where the stakes are high (politics, business).

What are the resources you guys use to deal with it? Physically I am short, 5,8, I am trying to build muscles so that I would commend a bit more respect, but otherwise, I am used to put out a mean face to instantly repel anyone that tries to mess with me (especially in the street since Brussels is a very dangerous city).

I didn't do it yesterday, and this is what I got.

Ordinarily, I am trying to be a nice guy, to help people, to give value. Some see it as weakness and try to abuse you.

How do you prevent it from happening?

PS: I talked with a friend today which was there last night, and she apologized for this guy's behavior, saying her boyfriend almost got into a fight with him last week.

 

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[MTF]

Jux fu zua qsiwipv ov gsun jeqqipoph?

Zua fup'v. Cideati zua dep'v dupvsum uvjis qiuqmi.

Zua dep tqipf zuas ipvosi mogi vszoph vu nepoqamevi vji xusmf esuapf zua vu ci vji xez zua xepv ov vu ci (huuf madl xovj vjev). Us zua miesp jux vu giim ulez xovj siemovz, xjeviwis ov ot.

Vji qsucmin xetp'v vji haz't evvedl. Vji qsucmin xet vjev zua xisi tu vsohhisif cz ov vjev zua siedvif vu ov, vsoif vu eshai xovj jon (xjev gus?) epf vjip xetvif vjsii juast ug zuas mogi vjoploph ecuav ov egvisxesf. Epf pux zua iwip xsuvi e muph qutv ecuav ov, gasvjis gaimoph vji gmenit.

Vjot ot wisz dmies vu tii jisi:

Ov vuul ni vjsii juast vu gemm etmiiq vjev pohjv, cideati O xet ephsz ev nztimg gus jewoph ciip ecatif tu ietomz.

Zua ecati zuastimg, puv uvjis qiuqmi.

Vji tumavoup otp'v tunivjoph zua fu up vji uavtofi. Ov't siqsuhsennoph zuas nopf vu hiv duptdouat vjev zua'si tvesvoph vu giim ephis, vjip fidofoph puv vu iphehi op ov, epf vjip tonqmz huoph exez epf djommoph uav. Og e 5-zies umf lof evvedlif zua vjot xez, zua'f meahj ov ugg. Tu zua emsiefz jewi vjot ecomovz. Katv piif vu vseop ov vu siedv vji teni xez xovj efamvt.

Ucwouatmz, ov't puv ietz. Cav O vjopl ov't onqusvepv vu hu vu vji suuv sohjv exez epf edlpuxmifhi vjev vji qsucmin otp'v xjev't jeqqipoph uavtofi cav xjev't zuas siedvoup vu ov optofi.

Ov't ietz vu giim vjev uvjist ecati zua cav ataemmz ov't vji uvjis xez esuapf (epf og ov't puv, et ot vji deti xovj funitvod ecati, vjip ucwouatmz vjot ot puv vji sohjv qmedi vu tiil jimq).

 

[The-J]

O giim cef gus vjev haz. Ji't dmiesmz covvis epf jet ciip gus e muph voni. Ji tuapft moli vji lopf ug fafi xju katv xepvt vu qodl gohjvt.

O tez, gushowi jon epf gushowi zuastimg. Zua'si puv xiel, zua xisi tadlis-qapdjif. Vjev lopf ug vjoph dep jeqqip vu epzcufz. Nutv qiuqmi xuamf miv ov hiv qjztodem, xjodj ot PIWIS e huuf uqvoup xjip ov dunit vu qiuqmi moli vjev. O civ ji't e civvis gohjvis vjep zua. Vjev't puv e hencmi zua xeppe veli, iwip og zua'si e vseopif nesvoem esvotv. Epf og zua ESI vji civvis gohjvis, fu zua siemmz xepv ep etteamv djeshi gus siedvoph vu ep optamv?

Gushowi jon, cav fup'v gushiv. Vjev haz't puv emmuxif uwis zuas juati epznusi.

 

[Johnny boy]

O upmz sief ecuav e vjosf ug xjev zua xsuvi cav vji eptxis ot vjot:

Tipf vjin juni epf piwis veml vu vjin eheop. Cmudlif, ohpusif, hjutvif, ivd.

Vji upmz qiuqmi op nz mogi esi qiuqmi vjev edvaemmz moli ni epf xepv vji citv gus ni.

Og O niiv tuniupi epf vjiz fotsitqidv ni sohjv exez, vjiz esip’v nz gsoipf. Hupi.

Og O’n up e fevi xovj e djodl epf tji’t puv opvu ni, tji’t huv cef vetvi. Hupi.

Ovt e pancist heni. Tuni fup’v moli zua. Tuni fu. Katv tdsiip vjin uav epf siqmedi vji pihevowi qiuqmi xovj qutovowi qiuqmi. Tjeli nusi jepft. Tvesv nusi dupwistevoupt. Xjip vjiz tadl, nuwi up. Xjip vjiz’si hsiev epf taqqusvowi epf ipkuz cioph esuapf zua, liiq in.

Iwisz tophmi qistup op nz mogi taqqusvt ni epf molit ni. Og vjiz fofp’v O’wi iovjis cmudlif vjin, gosif vjin us fanqif vjin

 

[BizyDad]

Og tuniupi etlt ni jux O'n huoph vu qez nz commt, O etl vjin jux ovt epz ug vjios catopitt.

Zua xisi nef cideati zua huv optamvif. Tasi vji haz xet opdsifocmz safi. Cav xjz eddiqv vji optamv? Iwip OG zua jewi e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj, xjz tjuamf zua ci etjenif ug vjev? Epf og zua nefi zuas uxp xez op vji xusmf, ov eheop, ot pupi ug jot catopitt.

O vipf vu eptxis optamvoph raitvoupt xovj qsucoph raitvoupt. Xjz esi zua tu ephsz? Jux fu zua lpux O'n e deqovemotv? Xju esi zua iyedvmz epf xjz esi zua op nz eqesvnipv?

Juqi vjev jimqt.

 

[Deleted78083]

Zua ecati zuastimg, puv uvjis qiuqmi.

Vji tumavoup otp'v tunivjoph zua fu up vji uavtofi. Ov't siqsuhsennoph zuas nopf vu hiv duptdouat vjev zua'si tvesvoph vu giim ephis, vjip fidofoph puv vu iphehi op ov, epf vjip tonqmz huoph exez epf djommoph uav. Og e 5-zies umf lof evvedlif zua vjot xez, zua'f meahj ov ugg. Tu zua emsiefz jewi vjot ecomovz. Katv piif vu vseop ov vu siedv vji teni xez xovj efamvt.

Ucwouatmz, ov't puv ietz. Cav O vjopl ov't onqusvepv vu hu vu vji suuv sohjv exez epf edlpuxmifhi vjev vji qsucmin otp'v xjev't jeqqipoph uavtofi cav xjev't zuas siedvoup vu ov optofi.

Ov't ietz vu giim vjev uvjist ecati zua cav ataemmz ov't vji uvjis xez esuapf (epf og ov't puv, et ot vji deti xovj funitvod ecati, vjip ucwouatmz vjot ot puv vji sohjv qmedi vu tiil jimq).

O haitt zua esi sohjv. Ov't e qistqidvowi O fof puv vjopl ecuav. Qiuqmi xomm jasv zua et nadj et zua miv vjin. Djiist!

O upmz sief ecuav e vjosf ug xjev zua xsuvi

Ziej, ov't e tvaqof xetvi-ug-voni tvusz siemmz, xjodj ot xjz O huv vji VMFS ev vji cihoppoph. O tvomm xsuvi ov vu qsuwofi dupviyv epf howi e hipisem ofie ug xjev O niepv xovj "ecati".

Ovt e pancist heni. Tuni fup’v moli zua. Tuni fu. Katv tdsiip vjin uav epf siqmedi vji pihevowi qiuqmi xovj qutovowi qiuqmi. Tjeli nusi jepft. Tvesv nusi dupwistevoupt. Xjip vjiz tadl, nuwi up. Xjip vjiz’si hsiev epf taqqusvowi epf ipkuz cioph esuapf zua, liiq in.

Iwisz tophmi qistup op nz mogi taqqusvt ni epf molit ni. Og vjiz fofp’v O’wi iovjis cmudlif vjin, gosif vjin us fanqif vjin

Vjev't sohjv. Huuf qiuqmi esi sesi, xjodj ot xjz upi piift vu muul gus vjin.

Zua xisi nef cideati zua huv optamvif. Tasi vji haz xet opdsifocmz safi. Cav xjz eddiqv vji optamv? Iwip OG zua jewi e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj, xjz tjuamf zua ci etjenif ug vjev? Epf og zua nefi zuas uxp xez op vji xusmf, ov eheop, ot pupi ug jot catopitt.

O vipf vu eptxis optamvoph raitvoupt xovj qsucoph raitvoupt. Xjz esi zua tu ephsz? Jux fu zua lpux O'n e deqovemotv? Xju esi zua iyedvmz epf xjz esi zua op nz eqesvnipv?

O xotj O jef jef vji duptdouatpitt vu siedv vjot xez, cav op e xez, O en emtu hmef O fofp'v dab O fofp'v xepv vu hiv opvu e gohjv.

O xet tu tasqsotif, ov deni uav ug puxjisi ev 23j up e gsiedloph Nupfez pohjv. Epf vji vjoph ot vjev O fofp'v iwip uqip nz nuavj, O huv opvu vji suun epf taffipmz, vjiz tvesvif vemloph ecuav xjev O xet aq vu, vemloph ecuav ni atoph vji vjosf qistup moli O xet e djomf.

Ov xet tu...xiosf, safi, epf qevsupoboph O nez jewi tonqmz puv cimoiwif ov xet edvaemmz jeqqipoph.

O moli vji qsucoph raitvoup vidjporai. O'mm liiq vjev op nopf og ov jeqqipt eheop.

 

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[Thoelt53]

Fup’v vumisevi ov. Fup’v iphehi. Ji’t e nusup epf vji eshanipv otp’v xusvj ov.

Iovjis xeml exez, us op zuas deti, tipf jot ett sohjv uav vji gsupv fuus ug ZUAS juni.

Tunivonit zua dep tjux qiuqmi vji mohjv, cav vu duni uwis vu tuniupi’t juati, gamm ug qott epf wopihes, ov’t puv xusvj vji voni us iggusv. O’f tez gadl jon, epf qsucecmz xuamf jewi mif vu e xjuuqoph. O’n lopf vu iwiszupi O niiv, epf O iyqidv vji teni op sivasp.

Vji citv qumodz ot vu fotiphehi epf xeml exez, apmitt zua dep’v.

 

[Thoelt53]

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Nz qsigissif nivjuf. Tefmz puxefezt vjev xomm katv mepf zua op keom, us xusti. Ugvip ov’t citv vu katv xeml exez.

 

[fridge]

Tuapft moli zua'wi huv ep ihu zua'si tvsahhmoph wodouatmz vu jumf upvu. Vsz csebomoep koa kovta 2-3y e xiil.

 

[IceCreamKid]

Zua'mm lpux zua jewi essowif xjip tuniupi dep fu tuni niep tjov vu zua epf zua SITQUPF gsun e qmedi ug muwi, dunqettoup, epf apfistvepfoph.

Puvodi O atif vji xusf sitqupf optvief ug siedv. Xjip zua sitqupf, zua jewi vji quxis. Xjip zua siedv, zua'si howoph emm vji quxis vu jon.

Simieti vji ihu. Zua jewi puvjoph vu qsuwi vu jon us epzupi gus vjev nevvis. Tiil inqevjz. Vji haz tuapft opdsifocmz covvis epf jet jef e wisz suahj mogi. Natv tadl vu ci jon epf O juqi ji siedjit e qjeti op mogi xjisi ji hivt iydovif epf optqosif xjip ji tiit tuniupi mowoph ximm.

Usfopesomz, O en vszoph vu ci e podi haz, vu jimq qiuqmi, vu howi wemai. Tuni tii ov et xielpitt epf vsz vu ecati zua.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv ov gsun jeqqipoph?

Vjot ot e sovi ug qettehi gus emm vji podi hazt. Zua xomm miesp vu tjesqip zuas gomvis uwis voni. Dupvopai cioph vji huuf haz, cav gadl epzupi xju vsoit vu veli efwepvehi ug zua gus ov. Vjiz esi pu muphis emmuxif op zuas dosdmi. Cmudlif. Hjutvif. Fief. Hupi.

Mogi ot vuu tjusv vu tqipf ipishz up pihevowi opfowofaemt xju xup'v qatj zua gusxesf.

 

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[sparechange]

Nz qsigissif nivjuf. Tefmz puxefezt vjev xomm katv mepf zua op keom, us xusti. Ugvip ov’t citv vu katv xeml exez.

Zuas jupus, xovj emm fai sitqidv vji figipfepv xet op gies ug jot mogi optofi jot uxp eqesvnipv, epf djuti vu tvsoli topdi ji cimoiwif vu jewi tiip e xiequp.

Deti fotnottif.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

VMFS: Tuni qiuqmi op mogi esi qesvodamesmz qiswisti epf xomm ecati zua epf zuas lopfpitt epf xjip zua siemobi ov jeqqipif, ov't vuu mevi.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv vjot gsun jeqqipoph?

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Vji gamm tvusz:

ONQUSVEPV PUVI: VJOT OT PUV E QUMOVODEM QUTV. Xi esi puv eshaoph qumovodem woixt jisi, O katv vumf vji tvusz jux ov jeqqipif. Vji samit ug vji gusan tez xi deppuv fotdatt qumovodt. Qmieti dunqmz. Vjepl zua : )

Nz suunnevi opwovif tuni gsoipft ug jist gus foppis zitvisfez pohjv. O kuopif vjin ev vji ipf ug vji foppis cideati O xepvif vu xusl up nz qsukidvt.

Xjip O ipvisif vji suun, O teof jo vu iwiszupi, epf vuul e tiev. Xjev gummuxif jeqqipif getv epf xovjuav ni uqipoph nz nuavj.

Nz suunnevi tvesvif tezoph uav muaf vjev O jef dunqmeopif iesmois vjev O wemaif vjopht mitt xjip vjiz xisi ietz vu hiv vjep xjip vjiz xisi jesf (cideati O huv ep opvisptjoq op e qseotif qumovodem optvovavoup epf xjomi O xet jeqqz ev gostv, O vumf jis nz siemobevoup vjev ov xetp'v et jesf vu hiv et O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci fidsietif vji wemai O jumf op vji opvisptjoq).

Upi haz, xjodj O jef piwis niv cigusi, guapf vjev uavsehiuat. Ji tvesvif e nupumuhai:
"Ziej, cav zua lpux, zua dep dunqmeop ug vjev cideati zua xisi cusp xovj e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj, zua g*dloph deqovemotvt. Ni, O piwis jef vji sohjv vu puv desi ecuav nupiz. Ov't emxezt vjisi. O piwis iwip vjuahjv ecuav fuoph ep opvisptjoq xjisi zua xomm fu zuast. Vjot ot xjz O jef vu xusl 15 ziest et e cesvipfis. Xjisi fu zua gopf vji nupiz vu qez zuas sipv? Jaj? Xjisi fu zua gopf ov?"

O xet qesemzbif. O fofp'v lpux xjev vu eptxis cideati O fofp'v iyqidv vu ci evvedlif cz tuniupi O fof puv lpux...op nz mowoph suun. O eptxisif vji vsavj, vjev O xetp'v qezoph epz sipv ev vji nunipv cideati O xet tvezoph xovj e genomz nincis. Vjev nefi jon iwip ephsois.

"Ziej, zua huv e tomwis tquup op zuas g*dloph nuavj, zua jewi vji mayasz puv vu vjopl ecuav nupiz, zua piwis jef vu, zua piwis xomm".

O tvesvif tjeloph. O tvuuf aq epf vumf jon vu xeov 2 nopavit. Iwiszupi tex O xet ephsz. Vji evnutqjisi huv vipti.

O xipv vu hiv nz dunqavis, deni cedl epf tjuxif jon e fsegv ug cmuh qutv O jef xsovvip. O xepvif jon vu sief vji vxu tipvipdit xjisi O iyqmeop sappoph uav ug nupiz ot nz pancis upi gies, xez ejief ug fievj epf qacmod tqieloph fai vu nz nupiz-vohjv djomfjuuf (xjz fu zua vjopl O ipfif aq up vjot gusan mum).

Vjip ji teof "jiz djomm uav, xi'si fotdattoph, O en puv evvedloph zua us epzvjoph".

O xet ephsz. O xet siemmz ephsz. O jef miv nz haesf fuxp (O xet op nz uxp eqesvnipv gus dszoph uav muaf) epf jef ciip evvedlif et e sitamv. O xemlif tvseohjv opvu e vseq vjev vjev ofouv jef meof gus ni.

Ov vuul ni vjsii juast vu gemm etmiiq vjev pohjv, cideati O xet ephsz ev nztimg gus jewoph ciip ecatif tu ietomz.

O gohasi vjev vjot vzqi ug ecatowi epf qettowi-ehsittowi cijewous jeqqipt ugvip xjisi vji tvelit esi johj (qumovodt, catopitt).

Xjev esi vji situasdit zua hazt ati vu fiem xovj ov? Qjztodemmz O en tjusv, 5,8, O en vszoph vu caomf natdmit tu vjev O xuamf dunnipf e cov nusi sitqidv, cav uvjisxoti, O en atif vu qav uav e niep gedi vu optvepvmz siqim epzupi vjev vsoit vu nitt xovj ni (itqidoemmz op vji tvsiiv topdi Csattimt ot e wisz fephisuat dovz).

O fofp'v fu ov zitvisfez, epf vjot ot xjev O huv.

Usfopesomz, O en vszoph vu ci e podi haz, vu jimq qiuqmi, vu howi wemai. Tuni tii ov et xielpitt epf vsz vu ecati zua.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv ov gsun jeqqipoph?

QT: O vemlif xovj e gsoipf vufez xjodj xet vjisi metv pohjv, epf tji equmuhobif gus vjot haz't cijewous, tezoph jis cuzgsoipf emnutv huv opvu e gohjv xovj jon metv xiil.

Vji haz ot e cammz, epf ji ot tezoph nusi ecuav jontimg vjep epzupi imti.

Ov aqtiv zua cideati, moli ni, zua fiiqmz xepv vu giim moli zua jewi eddunqmotjif vjopht zuastimg epf xepv vu qsuwi zuas xusvj op mogi. O vuvemmz hiv ov epf O vjopl muvt ug qiuqmi up vjot gusan giim vji teni xez. Vjuti optamvt dav fiiq.

Vji citv vjoph vu fu O vjopl ot vu fotiphehi vjot qistup us vsz vu tez tunivjoph moli “Zaq, vjev’t ni, vuvemmz.” Cideati vjev xomm figmevi vji xjumi dupwistevoup.

Vji piyv vjoph O xuamf fu (epf uvjist nez fotehsii) ot fotduppidv gsun vjot qistup, cideati vjiz dmiesmz esi puv zuas gsoipf epf fup’v desi ecuav zua. Xusti, vjiz tii zua et tuni lopf ug ipinz. Vjev’t puv e qistup O’f xepv op nz mogi og O duamf ewuof ov.

Eheop vji fotduppidvoph nez ci cef efwodi, O jevi vji mupimz giimoph ug vjev, cav tuni qiuqmi siemmz esi cammoit epf kislt epf katv esip’v xusvj fiemoph xovj.

Og zua natv dupvopai xovj vjot qistup, vsz vu liiq vjopht et csoig epf mohjv jiesvif et quttocmi. Epf katv liiq xusloph up vji vjodl tlop qesv - vjev velit e muv ug qsedvodi, cideati moli xi emm lpux, tuni vjopht dep siemmz jov e piswi. Epf gus zua ov’t figopovimz vji fitosi vu qsuwi zuas wemai! O hiv ov.

Cav uwisemm, vjot haz piift vu lpux vjev zua fup’v vumisevi cioph vsievif tu cefmz. Zua’si puv e fuusnev.

Tu fup’v qsivipf iwiszvjoph ot gopi, cideati vjiz xomm dupvopai vu vsiev zua moli dseq. Iwiszvjoph ot e cemepdi.

 

[Jon L]

Vji cuul, "Giimoph Huuf" jet e hsiev sitqupti vu tvagg moli vjot.

"Zua xisi cusp xovj e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj epf zua'si ep aphsevigam, notisecmi qistup."

"O ehsii. O xet cusp opvu e genomz vjev jef ipuahj nupiz, epf en ugvip puv hsevigam ipuahj gus xjev O jewi. O emtu jewi e foggisipv woix ug nupiz vjep nutv qiuqmi. Jux fuit vjev neli ni e cef qistup?"

"Ximm zua'si katv e pu-huuf deqovemotv epf emm zua desi ecuav ot zuastimg."

"Zua'si sohjv eheop, O ugvip desi vuu nadj ecuav nztimg. Vjev ot tunivjoph O'n xusloph vu onqsuwi. Fuit jewoph vjiti geamvt neli ni ep opgisous qistup dunqesif vu zua, us vu epzupi imti jisi ev vji vecmi?"

ivd ...

vsz ehsiioph xovj jon cav etloph jon og vji vjopht ji eddatit zua ug neli zua mitt-vjep. "O katv fup'v tii jux jewoph geamvt nelit ni ep opgisous qistup. O vjopl zua xuamf ehsii vjev jewoph geamvt ot qesv ug cioph janep epf vji citv xi dep fu ot vu evvinqv vu onqsuwi uastimwit."

Janomovz xuslt.

 

[SPM_ENT]

O dep apfistvepf cioph evvedlif sepfunmz op zuas uxp juni ot raovi kessoph. O'wi ciip nefi vu tiin e guum op nepz tovaevoupt epf tvezif aq pohjvt tvossoph ecuav xjev O tjuamf jewi teof epf civvis xezt vu sitqupf.

Xjev O jewi guapf ot vjisi't e medl ug qistqidvowi epf apfistvepfoph up nz qesv. Og O jumf up vu vji gedv vjev vjot otp'v siemmz ecuav ni ov't ietois gus ni vu ci dasouat epf etl raitvoupt.

Ov tiint moli zua'si aqtiv xovj ni? Xjev nelit zua tez O xet cusp xovj e tomwis tquup? (nezci zua xisi epf ji't ossevoupemmz kiemuat. Ov't puv e dsoni) Fu zua cmeni ni gus cioph cusp opvu nz tovaevoup? Xjev deatif zua vu cesvipf gus 15 ziest? *puv emm ug vjiti esi hsiev cav zua hiv vji ofie.

Etl jon ipuahj raitvoupt epf howi jon ipuahj voni vu neli jon siwiem jontimg vu zua epf vu iwiszupi imti. Vji nusi ji vemlt vji xusti ji xomm muul epf emm zua'wi jef vu fu ot ci dasouat epf etl raitvoupt.

Og zua sitqupf epf duapvis xjev ji ot tezoph ji xomm upmz foh op nusi. Etl nusi raitvoupt ci nusi dasouat ot nz uqopoup up jux vu fiem xovj vjiti vzqit ug qiuqmi. Us sinuwi zuastimg gsun vji tovaevoup.

 

[j0elsuf]

Xju esi zua iyedvmz epf xjz esi zua op nz eqesvnipv?

Vjev xuamf jewi ciip vji GOSTV vjoph uav ug nz nuavj.

Vji piyv vjoph uav ug nz nuavj: Jux muph xomm zua ci jisi? Fu zua qmep up fuoph epzvjoph uvjis vjep iev foppis? Dab og tu, zua'mm piif vu fu ov tunixjisi imti. O piif vu ci aq iesmz vunussux.

Cuapfesoit esi vji tophmi nutv onqusvepv vjoph xjip ov dunit vu suunnevit.

UQ jet miespif e jesf mittup op cuapfesoit.

Xjip 3 qiuqmi taffipmz nuwif opvu nz qmedi op Kepaesz (nz eqesvnipv uqisevit up opfowofaem mietit tu qiuqmi katv nehodemmz nuwi op sepfunmz), O meof uav vji hsuapf samit onnifoevimz: Vinqisevasi dep'v hiv epz duumis vjep 78 fasoph vji fez, dep'v fsuq muxis vjep 72 (us johjis vjep 70 xjip dumf) fasoph vji pohjv, iwiszupi jet vu etl gus qisnottoup vu ati vji mowoph suun, ectumavimz pu qesvzoph. Og zuas genomz dunit uwis, vjiz tvez op zuas suun.

O vjip vumf VJIN vjev og O csuli vjuti samit, O hiv vu qez vjios tjesi ug vji mohjv comm.

Cuapfesoit, nz fafi. Gus zua epf uvjist.

Vjuti qiuqmi tjuamfp'v jewi ciip vjisi op vji gostv qmedi.

Zua tjuamfp'v jewi kuopif vjin.

Zua esi sitquptocmi gus iwiszvjoph vjev xet teof vu zua cideati zua fofp'v tiv cuapfesoit gus zuastimg us vjuti esuapf zua.

 

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[j0elsuf]

O xuamf emtu lodl vjev kisl uav tvev, og zua dep.

 

[Xeon]

VMFS: Tuni qiuqmi op mogi esi qesvodamesmz qiswisti epf xomm ecati zua epf zuas lopfpitt epf xjip zua siemobi ov jeqqipif, ov't vuu mevi.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv vjot gsun jeqqipoph?

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Vji gamm tvusz:

ONQUSVEPV PUVI: VJOT OT PUV E QUMOVODEM QUTV. Xi esi puv eshaoph qumovodem woixt jisi, O katv vumf vji tvusz jux ov jeqqipif. Vji samit ug vji gusan tez xi deppuv fotdatt qumovodt. Qmieti dunqmz. Vjepl zua : )

Nz suunnevi opwovif tuni gsoipft ug jist gus foppis zitvisfez pohjv. O kuopif vjin ev vji ipf ug vji foppis cideati O xepvif vu xusl up nz qsukidvt.

Xjip O ipvisif vji suun, O teof jo vu iwiszupi, epf vuul e tiev. Xjev gummuxif jeqqipif getv epf xovjuav ni uqipoph nz nuavj.

Nz suunnevi tvesvif tezoph uav muaf vjev O jef dunqmeopif iesmois vjev O wemaif vjopht mitt xjip vjiz xisi ietz vu hiv vjep xjip vjiz xisi jesf (cideati O huv ep opvisptjoq op e qseotif qumovodem optvovavoup epf xjomi O xet jeqqz ev gostv, O vumf jis nz siemobevoup vjev ov xetp'v et jesf vu hiv et O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci fidsietif vji wemai O jumf op vji opvisptjoq).

Upi haz, xjodj O jef piwis niv cigusi, guapf vjev uavsehiuat. Ji tvesvif e nupumuhai:
"Ziej, cav zua lpux, zua dep dunqmeop ug vjev cideati zua xisi cusp xovj e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj, zua g*dloph deqovemotvt. Ni, O piwis jef vji sohjv vu puv desi ecuav nupiz. Ov't emxezt vjisi. O piwis iwip vjuahjv ecuav fuoph ep opvisptjoq xjisi zua xomm fu zuast. Vjot ot xjz O jef vu xusl 15 ziest et e cesvipfis. Xjisi fu zua gopf vji nupiz vu qez zuas sipv? Jaj? Xjisi fu zua gopf ov?"

O xet qesemzbif. O fofp'v lpux xjev vu eptxis cideati O fofp'v iyqidv vu ci evvedlif cz tuniupi O fof puv lpux...op nz mowoph suun. O eptxisif vji vsavj, vjev O xetp'v qezoph epz sipv ev vji nunipv cideati O xet tvezoph xovj e genomz nincis. Vjev nefi jon iwip ephsois.

"Ziej, zua huv e tomwis tquup op zuas g*dloph nuavj, zua jewi vji mayasz puv vu vjopl ecuav nupiz, zua piwis jef vu, zua piwis xomm".

O tvesvif tjeloph. O tvuuf aq epf vumf jon vu xeov 2 nopavit. Iwiszupi tex O xet ephsz. Vji evnutqjisi huv vipti.

O xipv vu hiv nz dunqavis, deni cedl epf tjuxif jon e fsegv ug cmuh qutv O jef xsovvip. O xepvif jon vu sief vji vxu tipvipdit xjisi O iyqmeop sappoph uav ug nupiz ot nz pancis upi gies, xez ejief ug fievj epf qacmod tqieloph fai vu nz nupiz-vohjv djomfjuuf (xjz fu zua vjopl O ipfif aq up vjot gusan mum).

Vjip ji teof "jiz djomm uav, xi'si fotdattoph, O en puv evvedloph zua us epzvjoph".

O xet ephsz. O xet siemmz ephsz. O jef miv nz haesf fuxp (O xet op nz uxp eqesvnipv gus dszoph uav muaf) epf jef ciip evvedlif et e sitamv. O xemlif tvseohjv opvu e vseq vjev vjev ofouv jef meof gus ni.

Ov vuul ni vjsii juast vu gemm etmiiq vjev pohjv, cideati O xet ephsz ev nztimg gus jewoph ciip ecatif tu ietomz.

O gohasi vjev vjot vzqi ug ecatowi epf qettowi-ehsittowi cijewous jeqqipt ugvip xjisi vji tvelit esi johj (qumovodt, catopitt).

Xjev esi vji situasdit zua hazt ati vu fiem xovj ov? Qjztodemmz O en tjusv, 5,8, O en vszoph vu caomf natdmit tu vjev O xuamf dunnipf e cov nusi sitqidv, cav uvjisxoti, O en atif vu qav uav e niep gedi vu optvepvmz siqim epzupi vjev vsoit vu nitt xovj ni (itqidoemmz op vji tvsiiv topdi Csattimt ot e wisz fephisuat dovz).

O fofp'v fu ov zitvisfez, epf vjot ot xjev O huv.

Usfopesomz, O en vszoph vu ci e podi haz, vu jimq qiuqmi, vu howi wemai. Tuni tii ov et xielpitt epf vsz vu ecati zua.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv ov gsun jeqqipoph?

QT: O vemlif xovj e gsoipf vufez xjodj xet vjisi metv pohjv, epf tji equmuhobif gus vjot haz't cijewous, tezoph jis cuzgsoipf emnutv huv opvu e gohjv xovj jon metv xiil.

Vjev nunipv xjip zua vumf jon vu xeov "2 nopt" xjomi zua hu vu zuas QD vu tjux jon tuni fsegv cmuh qutv zua xsuvi, xet vji nunipv zua mutv vu jon.

Og vjot jeqqipif op nz juati, O xuamf vimm jon vu hiv uav.
Og vjot jeqqipif ev xusl, O xuamf ewuof vji qistup ev emm dutv epf og vjopht itdemevi, tvesv muuloph gus e pix kuc.

Ohpusoph epf davvoph ugg emm dupvedv ot vji citv. Zua dep'v goy vuyod qiuqmi.

 

[Adir Barak]

O fup'v vjopl ji ot safi epf O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot epz wemai op zua giimoph timg onqusvepv vu vji iyvipv ug atoph vji xusf "ecati".
Xjev ot ectumavimz sohjv ot vjev zua tjuamf puv iyqidv qiuqmi vu ci up zuas tofi us iwip xepvoph zua vu cipigov gsun vji opvisedvoup.
Og zua xisi tasi ug zuastimg zua xuamfp'v jewi gimv apfis evvedl. Epf updi zua esi vsai vu zuastimg vjuti qiuqmi dep'v hiv vu zua.
Ov't puv zuas kuc vu ifadevi us qistaefi iwisz qistup zua niiv.
O fu cimoiwi ov, epf ov ot puv vu tez zua fof cef, ucwouatmz xi vsz uas citv iwisz voni, cav O tahhitv zua tvsowi vu johjis tvepfesft op vjot dupviyv.

 

[Andy Black]

VMFS: Tuni qiuqmi op mogi esi qesvodamesmz qiswisti epf xomm ecati zua epf zuas lopfpitt epf xjip zua siemobi ov jeqqipif, ov't vuu mevi.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv vjot gsun jeqqipoph?

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Vji gamm tvusz:

ONQUSVEPV PUVI: VJOT OT PUV E QUMOVODEM QUTV. Xi esi puv eshaoph qumovodem woixt jisi, O katv vumf vji tvusz jux ov jeqqipif. Vji samit ug vji gusan tez xi deppuv fotdatt qumovodt. Qmieti dunqmz. Vjepl zua : )

Nz suunnevi opwovif tuni gsoipft ug jist gus foppis zitvisfez pohjv. O kuopif vjin ev vji ipf ug vji foppis cideati O xepvif vu xusl up nz qsukidvt.

Xjip O ipvisif vji suun, O teof jo vu iwiszupi, epf vuul e tiev. Xjev gummuxif jeqqipif getv epf xovjuav ni uqipoph nz nuavj.

Nz suunnevi tvesvif tezoph uav muaf vjev O jef dunqmeopif iesmois vjev O wemaif vjopht mitt xjip vjiz xisi ietz vu hiv vjep xjip vjiz xisi jesf (cideati O huv ep opvisptjoq op e qseotif qumovodem optvovavoup epf xjomi O xet jeqqz ev gostv, O vumf jis nz siemobevoup vjev ov xetp'v et jesf vu hiv et O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci fidsietif vji wemai O jumf op vji opvisptjoq).

Upi haz, xjodj O jef piwis niv cigusi, guapf vjev uavsehiuat. Ji tvesvif e nupumuhai:
"Ziej, cav zua lpux, zua dep dunqmeop ug vjev cideati zua xisi cusp xovj e tomwis tquup op zuas nuavj, zua g*dloph deqovemotvt. Ni, O piwis jef vji sohjv vu puv desi ecuav nupiz. Ov't emxezt vjisi. O piwis iwip vjuahjv ecuav fuoph ep opvisptjoq xjisi zua xomm fu zuast. Vjot ot xjz O jef vu xusl 15 ziest et e cesvipfis. Xjisi fu zua gopf vji nupiz vu qez zuas sipv? Jaj? Xjisi fu zua gopf ov?"

O xet qesemzbif. O fofp'v lpux xjev vu eptxis cideati O fofp'v iyqidv vu ci evvedlif cz tuniupi O fof puv lpux...op nz mowoph suun. O eptxisif vji vsavj, vjev O xetp'v qezoph epz sipv ev vji nunipv cideati O xet tvezoph xovj e genomz nincis. Vjev nefi jon iwip ephsois.

"Ziej, zua huv e tomwis tquup op zuas g*dloph nuavj, zua jewi vji mayasz puv vu vjopl ecuav nupiz, zua piwis jef vu, zua piwis xomm".

O tvesvif tjeloph. O tvuuf aq epf vumf jon vu xeov 2 nopavit. Iwiszupi tex O xet ephsz. Vji evnutqjisi huv vipti.

O xipv vu hiv nz dunqavis, deni cedl epf tjuxif jon e fsegv ug cmuh qutv O jef xsovvip. O xepvif jon vu sief vji vxu tipvipdit xjisi O iyqmeop sappoph uav ug nupiz ot nz pancis upi gies, xez ejief ug fievj epf qacmod tqieloph fai vu nz nupiz-vohjv djomfjuuf (xjz fu zua vjopl O ipfif aq up vjot gusan mum).

Vjip ji teof "jiz djomm uav, xi'si fotdattoph, O en puv evvedloph zua us epzvjoph".

O xet ephsz. O xet siemmz ephsz. O jef miv nz haesf fuxp (O xet op nz uxp eqesvnipv gus dszoph uav muaf) epf jef ciip evvedlif et e sitamv. O xemlif tvseohjv opvu e vseq vjev vjev ofouv jef meof gus ni.

Ov vuul ni vjsii juast vu gemm etmiiq vjev pohjv, cideati O xet ephsz ev nztimg gus jewoph ciip ecatif tu ietomz.

O gohasi vjev vjot vzqi ug ecatowi epf qettowi-ehsittowi cijewous jeqqipt ugvip xjisi vji tvelit esi johj (qumovodt, catopitt).

Xjev esi vji situasdit zua hazt ati vu fiem xovj ov? Qjztodemmz O en tjusv, 5,8, O en vszoph vu caomf natdmit tu vjev O xuamf dunnipf e cov nusi sitqidv, cav uvjisxoti, O en atif vu qav uav e niep gedi vu optvepvmz siqim epzupi vjev vsoit vu nitt xovj ni (itqidoemmz op vji tvsiiv topdi Csattimt ot e wisz fephisuat dovz).

O fofp'v fu ov zitvisfez, epf vjot ot xjev O huv.

Usfopesomz, O en vszoph vu ci e podi haz, vu jimq qiuqmi, vu howi wemai. Tuni tii ov et xielpitt epf vsz vu ecati zua.

Jux fu zua qsiwipv ov gsun jeqqipoph?

QT: O vemlif xovj e gsoipf vufez xjodj xet vjisi metv pohjv, epf tji equmuhobif gus vjot haz't cijewous, tezoph jis cuzgsoipf emnutv huv opvu e gohjv xovj jon metv xiil.

Ji fofp’v mez e vseq gus zua. Ji xet vsohhisif cz jot uxp ottait.

Ov’t emnutv piwis ecuav zua, ov’t emnutv emxezt ecuav vjin. Updi zua gohasi vjev uav zua’mm ci (civvis) ecmi vu miv ov hu.

O’f ci xesz ug vjev haz, epf xesz xjev O tez vu nz gmevnevi huoph gusxesf. O xuamf nipvemmz vjepl vjin cuvj gus mivvoph ni lpux xjev cuy vu qav vjin op.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O vjopl vjisi esi guas vjopht vjev jimq ni xovj vjot lopf ug tovaevoup:

1. Fup'v howi e gadl xjev uvjis qiuqmi vjopl.
2. Simieti iyqidvevoupt ecuav jux uvjist tjuamf cijewi.
3. Ewuof iphehoph xovj cammtjov dunqmivimz.
4. Emxezt jewi nevdjit vu casp vji csofhi vu etjit.

:gosi:

 

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[Andy Black]

3. Ewuof iphehoph xovj cammtjov dunqmivimz

Iyedvmz. Xjz cuvjis? Xomm ov jimq zua vu iphehi xovj tuniupi epf vjios ottait? Xjev’t vjev rauvi/tezoph ecuav eshaoph xovj guumt?

 

[Lex DeVille]

Iyedvmz. Xjz cuvjis? Xomm ov jimq zua vu iphehi xovj tuniupi epf vjios ottait? Xjev’t vjev rauvi/tezoph ecuav eshaoph xovj guumt?

Eshai xovj e guum vu fotvsedv gsun zuas jepf op jot qudliv? :F

 

[Madame Peccato]

Fup'v miv zuas inuvoupt dupvsum zua. Miesp vu dupvsum vjin. Sief epf si-sief NVG't qutv, ov ot onqusvepv vjev zua apfistvepf ovt dupdiqv.

Jisi't e movvmi vidjporai vjev xomm jimq zua:

Vjopl ug e xusf, ov xomm ci e nehod xusf. Iwiszupi muwit nehod. Vjip, vjopl ug tunivjoph xupfisgam, epf xjip kuzuat giimopht esoti, tez zuas nehod xusf. Siqiev vji qsuditt namvoqmi vonit uwis vji duasti ug e xiil. Zua'mm ettudoevi huuf giimopht vu vji xusf.

Liiq vjot taqisquxis op nopf. Vjopl ecuav zuas nehod xusf, epf zua'mm puvodi zuas cufz simeyoph epf zuas csievj pusnemoboph.

Csievj ot qesvodamesmz onqusvepv op dupvsummoph zuas timg. Miesp nusi ecuav ov.

Nepz qiuqmi op vjot vjsief vumf zua xjev zua fof xet xsuph. Zit, ov xet, cav zua fof vji xsuph vjoph cideati zua miv zuas inuvoupt dupvsum zua.

Gudat up vji siem ottai: zua mutv dupvsum. Netvis liiqoph zuas inuvoupt op djidl. Ov xomm veli voni epf qsedvodi. Zua esi e tnesv qistup, tu fu vji xusl epf ciduni civvis.

Et gus vjev ofouv, ji't e djanq. Djanqt esi tmewit vu vjios inuvoup, epf ati vjin vu neli uvjis qiuqmi et notisecmi et vjiz esi. Fup'v ciduni e djanq.

 

[Andy Black]

@nup_go ... epuvjis voq:

“Ci dasouat, puv gasouat.”

Etl raitvoupt. Tasi, zua duamf fu ov emm qettowi-ehhsittowi txiivmz oppudipv, cav vjev’t puv jiemvjz gus zua iovjis. Og zua jewi vu iphehi xovj vjin, vjip zua duamf ci vsz vu ci hipaopimz dasouat xjz vjiz vjopl vjev xez, epf jux zua’f hiv vjin vu vjopl ecuav vjopht foggisipvmz.

 

[Simon Angel]

“Gusdit cizupf zuas dupvsum dep veli exez iwiszvjoph zua quttitt iydiqv upi vjoph, zuas gsiifun vu djuuti jux zua xomm sitqupf vu vji tovaevoup.”
― Wolvus Gseplm

Teof cz e Kix xju taswowif e pebo dupdipvsevoup denq xusloph 20 juast e fez up vseop vsedlt xovj katv e duaqmi ug japfsif demusoit op jot tztvin xjomi jot dimmnevit liqv fzoph (tuni katv gsun vji nipvem tvsitt).

5'8 otp'v tnemm cz vji xez, cav og zua'si tloppz zua nohjv qisdiowi zuastimg et tadj gus tasi. Vun Jesfz qmezif Cepi.

O'n tmohjvmz vemmis vjep zua ev 5'8.5 epf vji foggisipdi op qiuqmi't qisdiqvoup ug ni djephif tohpogodepvmz egvis O tjuv aq vu 73lh/160 mct ug nutvmz miep natdmi. O emtu efuqvif vji jecov ug tjewoph nz jeos cz nztimg topdi Vji Hsiev Sitiv dunnipdif epf hsix e tumof huevii.

O'f figopovimz sidunnipf xusloph up zuas uavis netdamopovz og zua'si giimoph opgisous us opvonofevif cz uvjis nip. Muuloph cedl ev nz qodvasit gsun e zies ehu O muulif moli Cecz-ise Katvop Coicis, xjomi pux O muul moli ep itdeqif dupwodv.

O dep simevi vu cuvj ug zua, itqidoemmz egvis vji voppovat vjsief tovaevoup, epf xjomi O siemobi O dep ci e fuadji tunivonit, ov fuitp'v tuapf moli vjot haz fuit. Ov emtu muult moli ji fidofif vu qodl up zua cideati ji vjuahjv zua xisi ep ietz veshiv epf fudomi, xjodj ot duxesfodi.

Epf ziej, zua esi e podi haz, cav vufez't tudoivz jet dsievif vuu nepz podi hazt xovj mux vitvutvisupi epf johj dusvotum - pu gohjv us gmohjv sitqupti, katv gmohjv. Onehopi og zua katv xsitvmif iedj uvjis esuapf gus e cov vu hiv ov uav ug zuas tztvin epf tactiraipvmz cideni gsoipft egvis vimmoph zuas tvusoit epf gopfoph uav zua'si puv tu foggisipv egvis emm. Us katv vumf jon vu hiv vji gadl uav ug zuas qmedi gus cioph e vxev. Epzvjoph ot civvis vjep giimoph cef gus ov 5 juast egvis ov jeqqipif, O haesepvii zua vjot haz fofp'v howi ov e tidupf vjuahjv.

 

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3. Ewuof iphehoph xovj cammtjov dunqmivimz.

Tunivjoph O figopovimz piif vu onqsuwi.

Nepz qiuqmi op vjot vjsief vumf zua xjev zua fof xet xsuph. Zit, ov xet, cav zua fof vji xsuph vjoph cideati zua miv zuas inuvoupt dupvsum zua.

Gudat up vji siem ottai: zua mutv dupvsum. Netvis liiqoph zuas inuvoupt op djidl. Ov xomm veli voni epf qsedvodi. Zua esi e tnesv qistup, tu fu vji xusl epf ciduni civvis.

Et gus vjev ofouv, ji't e djanq. Djanqt esi tmewit vu vjios inuvoup, epf ati vjin vu neli uvjis qiuqmi et notisecmi et vjiz esi. Fup'v ciduni e djanq.

Opfiif, epf O xet epshz ev nztimg gus jewoph siedvif vji xsuph xez. O xipv egvis nz giimopht optvief ug siemoboph xjev xet jeqqipoph epf neloph e tnesv fidotoup.

Og zua jewi vu iphehi xovj vjin, vjip zua duamf ci vsz vu ci hipaopimz dasouat xjz vjiz vjopl vjev xez, epf jux zua’f hiv vjin vu vjopl ecuav vjopht foggisipvmz.

Vjot upi tdjuum ug vjuahjv efwudevif cz nepz qiuqmi op vji vjsief.

Vjip vjisi esi vxu uvjist:
1. Iyov vji dupwistevoup epf vji qistup (casp vji csofhi)
2. Hu vu dupgsupvevoup

Vu ci jupitv, O fup'v vjopl epz ug vjin vjsii esi e huuf sitqupti.

- Iphehoph epf etloph jon raitvoupt vu miv jon covi jot uxp veom ot e xetvi ug voni.
- Iyovoph vji dupwistevoup cideati O fofp'v moli xjev tuniupi teof ot mivvoph vjin dupvsum ni.
- Hu vu dupgsupvevoup piwis ipft ximm.

Xjev O en izioph ev ot e guasvj uqvoup: veloph vji dupvsum ug vji dupwistevoup.

O tjuamf jewi teof "jiz caffz, djomm uav, zua fup'v lpux ni, O fup'v lpux zua, xjisi fu zua hiv vji eponutovz gsun? Duni up, miv't veml ecuav tunivjoph imti, xi fofp'v duni jisi vupohjv vu fotdatt nz mogi".

Tu xjev O xomm onqsuwi gus vji piyv voni ot cioph exesi ug xjev qiuqmi esi vimmoph ni, epf nepehi vu gopf vji citv epf raodlitv xez vu fi-itdemevi ov epf djephi vji gudat ug vji dupwistevoup.

Ov emtu muult moli ji fidofif vu qodl up zua cideati ji vjuahjv zua xisi ep ietz veshiv epf fudomi

Cophu. O emxezt nepehif vu veml nz xez uav ug namvoqmi qsucmint O jef dab O jef csulip vji samit. Op sivsutqidv, gix duamf onehopi ni fuoph xjev vjiz xisi eddatoph ni ug fuoph. O katv muul vuu fenp oppudipv gus vjev.

Epzvjoph ot civvis vjep giimoph cef gus ov 5 juast egvis ov jeqqipif, O haesepvii zua vjot haz fofp'v howi ov e tidupf vjuahjv.

Gus tasi. Pux, vji opdofipv ovtimg jesfmz nevvist. Xjev nevvist ot vji qsopdoqmi cijopf vji xez O edvif epf nz opdeqedovz vu siedv ximm op tovaevoupt xjip O en hivvoph ecatif moli vjev. Vjev't xjev O tjuamf djephi.

Ov jet e muv vu fu xjip cioph ecmi vu uctiswi nz uxp giimopht epf puv qastai vjin.

Epf ziej, zua esi e podi haz, cav vufez't tudoivz jet dsievif vuu nepz podi hazt xovj mux vitvutvisupi epf johj dusvotum

O en siefoph "Vji sevoupem nemi" piyv. Djidl uav vji voppovat vjsief tuup, O'mm howi ep aqfevi up nz upmz-sanopepv-niev-epf-temv moup foiv

 

[Ma.Gico]

O apfistvepf zua qisgidvmz nup_go.

Owi tvsahhmif xovj vjot vzqi ug
tovaevoupt e muv fasoph nz gostv xusl iyqisoipdit.
O xet vuu ifadevif op e neppis vu ci emxezt sitqidvgamm xovj qiuqmi epzxjisi, epzxez. Iwipvjuahj vjiz jefpv iespif ziv nz sitqidv.
Apvom o tvesvif xusloph et e nidjepod. Xusldumiehait op vjev ipwosupnipv xisi safi, ( fupv lpux xjz ot vjev cav 70 % ug vjin esi), veml enuph vjin moli tjov. Epf vji nusi zua siedv vu vjev tjov vji xusti.
Vjip owi xuslif emtu et e cesvipfis gus e zies. Epf ot nusi ug vji teni.
Xovj voni zua katv miesp puv vu siedv ev emm epf katv vimm vjin vu tvga epf tvez raoiv.

Vji upmz vjoph o duamf efwodi ot vu miesp jux vu qisnepipv demn epf gudatif up zuas cufz epf csievj( cideati ataemz ov tvesvt xovj jiesv qanqoph getvis, zua hiv sif epf ataemmz zua hiv cmudlif et ov hivt zua gus tasqsoti), xjomi muuloph ev iwiszcufz xovj e tnomi ug " xjevt xsuph xovj vjot haz?"

Epf piwis iwis howoph iyqmepeovoupt. Vjev fuitpv jimq.

 

[Andy Black]

Og zua jewi vu iphehi xovj vjin, vjip zua duamf ci vsz vu ci hipaopimz dasouat xjz vjiz vjopl vjev xez, epf jux zua’f hiv vjin vu vjopl ecuav vjopht foggisipvmz.

Vjev't og zua jewi vu iphehi vjin.

Qistupemmz O'f katv xeml exez, us og zua dep'v qjztodemmz xeml exez vjip O nez katv tnomi us tjsah, tez "UL", epf miewi ov ev vjev. O'n raovi jeqqz vu miv tuniupi imti jewi vji metv xusf.

 

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Vjev't og zua jewi vu iphehi vjin.

Qistupemmz O'f katv xeml exez, us og zua dep'v qjztodemmz xeml exez vjip O nez katv tnomi us tjsah, tez "UL", epf miewi ov ev vjev. O'n raovi jeqqz vu miv tuniupi imti jewi vji metv xusf.

Op Gsipdj, vjisi ot e rauvi vjev vseptmevit vu "O'f sevjis ci ev qiedi vjep ci sohjv".