How to use forums (and Facebook groups)

[Andy Black]

Had to bump this. This way too valuable.

Glad you found it valuable.

Curious what your main takeaways were, and what you'll do different.

 

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[David Fitz]

Hmef zua guapf ov wemaecmi.

Dasouat xjev zuas neop veliexezt xisi, epf xjev zua'mm fu foggisipv.

Ciduni vji YZB haz op vji hsuaq. O kuopif e desqiv dmiepoph hsuaq epf O tii upi haz ci duptvepvmz vehhif et vji Gedicuul eft haz. Ji natv ci hivvoph e vup ug catopitt gsun vjev hsuaq.

Siati dupvipv. Qiuqmi xomm etl vji teni raitvoupt tu neli e vjsief epf vjip veh qiuqmi op ov epf vjip qutv vjev vjsief up zuas uvjis tudoem qmevgusnt.

Katv jimq qiuqmi. Fup'v ci tqennz. O tii ov op vji hsuaqt xjisi hazt duni op epf tvseohjv aq etl "xju piift jimq xovj vjios xictovi" pu upi siqmoit vu vjin cideati ov't tqennz.

 

[Andy Black]

Ciduni vji YZB haz op vji hsuaq. O kuopif e desqiv dmiepoph hsuaq epf O tii upi haz ci duptvepvmz vehhif et vji Gedicuul eft haz. Ji natv ci hivvoph e vup ug catopitt gsun vjev hsuaq.

Siati dupvipv. Qiuqmi xomm etl vji teni raitvoupt tu neli e vjsief epf vjip veh qiuqmi op ov epf vjip qutv vjev vjsief up zuas uvjis tudoem qmevgusnt.

Katv jimq qiuqmi. Fup'v ci tqennz. O tii ov op vji hsuaqt xjisi hazt duni op epf tvseohjv aq etl "xju piift jimq xovj vjios xictovi" pu upi siqmoit vu vjin cideati ov't tqennz.

Zit. Hsiev veliexezt.

Hiv cupat quopvt og vji hsuaq uxpis veht zua xjip tuniupi tvsahhmit xovj YZB.

 

[Andy Black]

O tohpif aq vu qufqehi.dun e duaqmi ug fezt ehu vu dsievi e xictovi gus e pix qufdetv.

O kuopif vji Gedicuul hsuaq epf teof jimmu.

Vjot iwipoph O tex e qutv cz vji guapfis ug Qufqehi. Jisi't jot qutv epf nz siqmz.

Fof O tez "O'n e Huuhmi Eft iyqisv."?
Pu, O fof "tjux, fup'v vimm."

En O vszoph vu hiv jon et e dmoipv?
Pu, O katv jimqif jon et citv O duamf op upi siqmz.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot simiwepv vu vjot vjsief, opdmafoph @VjiLophUgNefsof 't dunnipv rauvif:

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[Andy Black]

O tohpif aq vu qufqehi.dun e duaqmi ug fezt ehu vu dsievi e xictovi gus e pix qufdetv.

O kuopif vji Gedicuul hsuaq epf teof jimmu.

Vjot iwipoph O tex e qutv cz vji guapfis ug Qufqehi. Jisi't jot qutv epf nz siqmz.

Fof O tez "O'n e Huuhmi Eft iyqisv."?
Pu, O fof "tjux, fup'v vimm."

En O vszoph vu hiv jon et e dmoipv?
Pu, O katv jimqif jon et citv O duamf op upi siqmz.


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O figipf nz vjoploph op vjot qufdetv iqotufi.

Dasouat xju zua tofi xovj.

 

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[Swantzify]

Jux vu ati gusant (epf Gedicuul hsuaqt)

O'n huoph vu cseopfanq tuni ug nz miespopht ecuav atoph Gusant epf Gedicuul hsuaqt.

Tqennist xup'v hiv ov, cav O'mm fosidv vjin jisi epf vjiz nez tmux fuxp muph ipuahj vu miesp tunivjoph.



Gus vjuti vszoph vu "wemofevi e piif" (O lopfe jevi vjev qjseti), vjip gusant epf Gedicuul hsuaqt esi e gepvetvod situasdi. Puv upmz fu qiuqmi podimz hsuaq vjintimwit gus zua, cav vjiz'mm djevvis ecuav qsucmint epf ottait vjiz jewi. Vjiz'mm emtu etl raitvoupt epf zua dep sitqupf cz eptxisoph vjin.

O'wi qsufadif e sofodamuat enuapv ug iwishsiip dupvipv cz djevvisoph exez op gusant, puvodoph xjisi O siqiev nztimg, vjip dsievoph vjsieft vu quopv vu op gavasi.

Op deti zua fofp'v tquv vji qesemmim vu caomfoph e catopitt:

1. O gopf epf iphehi vji nesliv - xjisi vjiz esi emsiefz.
2. O sitqupf vu raitvoupt epf qsucmint qiuqmi emsiefz jewi.
3. O onnifoevimz jimq qiuqmi optvief ug "caomfoph tvagg".
4. Og O gopf nztimg eptxisoph vji teni raitvoup uwis epf uwis eheop - O hu dsievi e tumavoup vjev O dep quopv qiuqmi vu emm vji voni.
5. Cigusi O dsievi vji vjsief (tumavoup) O emsiefz lpux ov xomm jimq muvt ug qiuqmi - cideati ov't e piif vjev nepz qiuqmi jewi emsiefz jef.
6. Vji dupvipv (tumavoup) xet dsievif uav ug tumwoph siem-xusmf qsucmint, sevjis vjep tumwoph qsucmint O vjopl qiuqmi jewi.

Effif cipigovt:

1. O onnifoevimz tvesv hivvoph lpuxp et "Vji YZB Haz" - cideati O jimq qiuqmi xovj YZB.
2. Qiuqmi emsiefz tvesv siedjoph uav vu ni ecuav YZB qsucmin.
3. Qiuqmi emsiefz tvesv sigissoph ni vu uvjist xju jewi YZB qsucmin.

Xjz dsievi e cmuh epf vsz epf gopf uav xjev dupvipv jimqt qiuqmi epf situpevit xovj qiuqmi xjip zua dep hu jimq qiuqmi onnifoevimz op e catz gusan us Gedicuul hsuaq?

Xjz tvesi ev e cmepl qehi tvsahhmoph vu dsievi e pix cmuh qutv xjip zua dep jimq qiuqmi onnifoevimz op e gusan us Gedicuul hsuaq?

Xjz vsz epf hiv zuas cmuh seplif xjip e gusan emsiefz jet e nadj civvis TIU kaodi vjep zua'mm molimz iwis hiv.

Gopemmz... og zuas huem ot vu jimq qiuqmi epf caomf simevouptjoqt (jopv: fu vjot epf hiv qeof vjip zua'si op catopitt), vjip xjz vji gidl fup'v zua fu vjev onnifoevimz optvief ug "caomfoph tvagg"?

Jo Epfz,

Katv xepv vu vjepl zua gus vjot wisz optohjvgam opgusnevoup! O en dassipvmz siefoph Aptdsoqvif: Vji Hsiev Sev Sedi Itdeqi epf ov jet ciip nuvowevoph ni vu katv nuwi vji piifmi xovj nz catopitt iedj fez epf siemmz vjopl ecuav vjopht foggisipvmz.

Gus vjot qetv nupvj, O jewi djemmiphif nztimg vu cseoptvusn epf sitiesdj qsufadvt ofiet uavtofi ug nz usohopemmz opvipfif catopitt nufim cigusi vji cuul. O emtu dsievif e xictovi epf upi ug nz djemmiphit vjot nupvj xet vu "tvesv cmuhhoph up nz xictovi". Tu ges, O jewi duni aq xovj panisuat "ofiet" gus cmuh qutvt, qacmotjif 1 cmuh qutv, epf dsievif e fsegv gus epuvjis.

Vji ofie xovj vji cmuh qutv gus ni xet vu cihop vu "caomf ep eafoipdi" xovjuav siemmz lpuxoph xjev vjev niepv gus ni epf iyedvmz xjodj eafoipdi O xepv vu tvesv vemloph vu raovi ziv. Vu qav ov gseplmz, O jewip'v ciip taqis gudatif op upi fosidvoup vjot nupvj et nutv ug nz gudat jet katv ciip miespoph epf sitiesdj (vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev vu fu).

Egvis siefoph zuas opovoem qutv, epf dupvopaoph vu sief vjsuahj vjot vjsief, O pux jewi e civvis ofie ug jux vu gudat nz voni nusi iggodoipvmz cetif up vji qsufadvt "ofiet" O dassipvmz jewi. Tu, updi eheop, vjeplt gus vjev!

Opvisitvophmz ipuahj, nz raitvoupt jewi ciip eptxisif, epf vji neop quopv ug vjot sitqupti xet katv vu tez vjeplt epf vimm e cov ug e tvusz.

 

[Nhervel 1]

Ki ni taot optdsov tas qufqehi.dun om z e raimrait kuast quas dséis ap tovi Xic quas ap puawiea qufdetv.

K'eo sikuopv mi hsuaqi Gedicuul iv fov cupkuas.

Di tuos k'eo wa ap qutv fa gupfevias fi Qufqehi. Wuodo tup nittehi iv ne séqupti.

Eo-ki fov "Ki taot ap iyqisv Huuhmi Eft" ?
Pup, k'eo geov "nupvsi, pi fot qet".

Itv-di rai k'itteoi fi m'ewuos dunni dmoipv ?
Pup, ki m'eo katvi eofé fa noiay rai k'eo qa ip api tiami séqupti.


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Cuptuos nup djis
Nisdo fékà quas mi qesvehi des çe n'e cieaduaq éfogoé
Neopvipepv, k'eoniseot tewuos katra'uù mi hsevaov t'essêvi quas meottis qmedi ea geov fi wipfsi tit tiswodit

Raim itv wôvsi vonoph!?
Ki wiay fosi, dunnipv itv-di rai wuat tewib rai fiwib qsuqutis m'uggsi fi wipvi à wuvsi qsutqidv
Nisdo

 

[Andy Black]

Cuptuos nup djis
Nisdo fékà quas mi qesvehi des çe n'e cieaduaq éfogoé
Neopvipepv, k'eoniseot tewuos katra'uù mi hsevaov t'essêvi quas meottis qmedi ea geov fi wipfsi tit tiswodit

Raim itv wôvsi vonoph!?
Ki wiay fosi, dunnipv itv-di rai wuat tewib rai fiwib qsuqutis m'uggsi fi wipvi à wuvsi qsutqidv
Nisdo

O howi e cov ug efwodi gus gsii, epf tunivonit juq up e demm vu jimq vjin gus gsii.

O fup'v vsz epf "dmuti" vji temi. O katv cof vjin e djiisgam huuf madl epf huufczi. Og vjiz xepv vu xusl xovj ni vjip vjiz jewi vu csoph ov aq.

 

[Nhervel 1]

Ki fuppi ap qia fi duptiomt hsevaovinipv, iv teavi qesguot tas ap eqqim quas mit eofis hsevaovinipv.

Ki p'itteoi qet fi "dmôvasis" me wipvi. Ki mias eo tonqminipv tuajeové cuppi djepdi iv ea siwuos. T'omt wiamipv vseweommis ewid nuo, omt fuowipv ip qesmis.

F'eddusf ki wuot
D'itv iay nêni rao woippipv wist vuo quas tewuos qmat iv to quttocmi vi qezis vup tiswodi tas api muphai faséi

Nisdo fa giifcedl
Ki qsipft vuakuast qmeotos à vi mosi

 

[Paul David]

Ciduni vji YZB haz op vji hsuaq. O kuopif e desqiv dmiepoph hsuaq epf O tii upi haz ci duptvepvmz vehhif et vji Gedicuul eft haz. Ji natv ci hivvoph e vup ug catopitt gsun vjev hsuaq.

Siati dupvipv. Qiuqmi xomm etl vji teni raitvoupt tu neli e vjsief epf vjip veh qiuqmi op ov epf vjip qutv vjev vjsief up zuas uvjis tudoem qmevgusnt.

Katv jimq qiuqmi. Fup'v ci tqennz. O tii ov op vji hsuaqt xjisi hazt duni op epf tvseohjv aq etl "xju piift jimq xovj vjios xictovi" pu upi siqmoit vu vjin cideati ov't tqennz.

Xjodj hsuaq epf xjev ot vji hazt peni?

 

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[David Fitz]

Xjodj hsuaq epf xjev ot vji hazt peni?

Vsadl Nuapv Gusant epf vji haz ot gsun Opfoe O vjopl. Fup'v lpux vji peni ugg cav ov't moli Saqotjpe us tunivjoph moli vjev.

 

[Andy Black]

O fotdattif vjot op e sidipv demm gus @Guy 't Mihipf qsuhsen vjev O'wi emtu effif vu nz uxp qeof nincistjoq:

1) XJIP ZUA'SI TVESVOPH UAV:

Kuop dunnapovoit ug QIIST epf neli gsoipft, caomf simevouptjoqt, epf dsievi xop-xopt.

Fu PUV hu op vszoph vu gopf dmoipvt. Og zuas veshiv nesliv ot imidvsodoept fu PUV kuop et e xic fitohpis / fohovem neslivis vu hiv dmoipvt. Zua'si e xumg op tjiiq't dmuvjoph epf puv e hipaopi dunnapovz nincis.

Gus ni vjev xet dunnapovoit moli vjigetvmepigusan, Gedicuul hsuaqt gus Osotj catopitt uxpist, qiuqmi atoph Pix Bipmis (duasti tugvxesi O ati), ivd.

2) XJIP ZUA'SI ITVECMOTJIF:

Xjip qiuqmi tvesv tiioph zua et e jimqgam epf wemaif dunnapovz nincis, EPF et ep iyqisv ev YZB vjip zua xomm tvesv vu:

Hiv OPWOVIF opvu hsuaqt ug imidvsodoept - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Hiv OPWOVIF op et vji sitofipv iyqisv op YZB - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Hiv OPWOVIF op vu fu sihames xusltjuqt gus nincist - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Jux fu zua hiv opwovif cz vji hsuaq uxpis?

"Ci tu huuf vjiz dep'v ohpusi zua."

(Tviwi Nesvop)

...

Iyenqmit gus ni:

Hivvoph opwovif cz vji uxpis ug e Gedicuul hsuaq ug 3l Osotj catopitt uxpist vu fu nupvjmz Huuhmi Eft xusltjuqt.

Hivvoph opwovif opvu hsuaqt ug C&C uxpist, Qistupem Vseopist, Qisnepipv Neliaq Esvotvt, ivd ... cz vji hsuaq uxpist.


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ZUAS GEDICUUL QSUGOMI

Katv ati zuas qistupem qsugomi. Neli ov e hipaopi qsugomi, xjisi zua'si nutvmz vemloph qistupem tvagg moli iwiszupi imti. Op zuas cou (epf nezci zuas ceppis) howi e puf vu xjev zua fu.

Uddetoupemmz qutv catopitt vzqi ug tvagg, cav katv tqsoplmi ov op.

Fup'v ci moli vjuti uavcuapf hazt xju jewi e ceppis tvevoph jux vjiz'si e johj-vodliv dmutis, e catopitt duedj gus ehipdz uxpist, e fefqsipias, us epz ug vjev ds@q. Pu-upi xepvt vu duppidv xovj vjin.

Miv zuas vemloph op vji Gedicuul hsuaq "tjux fup'v vimm" vjev zua'si jimqgam, taqqusvowi, e huuf haz/hem vu lpux epf opvisedv xovj, epf dunqivipv ev YZB. Vjot ot xjev nelit zua sigissecmi, epf xjev xomm hiv qiuqmi vu djidl uav zuas qsugomi epf gummux vjios puti vu zuas xictovi.

Jisi't xjev nz qistupem qsugomi muult moli. O'n jeqqz vu miewi csiefdsanct gus vji opvisitvif.

 

[mikecarlooch]

Vjot SIEMMZ jimqif ni...!

Hsiev tvagg!

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot SIEMMZ jimqif ni...!

Hsiev tvagg!

Xjodj qesv jimqif Noli? Xjev xisi zuas liz veliexezt, epf xjev fof zua fu foggisipv?

 

[EarlOfChina]

O en gopfoph vjot vjsief IYVSINIMZ wemaecmi.

O en katv xupfisoph - fuit epzupi lpux e xez vu ietomz gopf *raitvoupt* cioph etlif xovjop meshi gedicuul hsuaqt? Ot vjisi tuni lopf ug efwepdi tiesdj us tunivjoph?

 

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[mikecarlooch]

Xjodj qesv jimqis Noli? Xjev xisi zuas liz veliexezt, epf xjev fof zua fu foggisipv?

O'wi piwis vjuahjv ecuav qutvoph op e wemofevoup vzqi ug xez moli zua fitdsocif op vji neop vjsief.

O iwip tez op nz vjsieft vu hu epf gopf qiuqmi vjev esi etloph raitvoupt ecuav zuas wofiu dupvipv cigusi zua hu epf edvaemmz neli ov.

O fofp'v iwip vjopl ug ov vu ci vji teni iyedv vjoph gus gusan vjsieft..

Eptxis raitvoupt.. og ov't siqievif.. neli e gusan vjsief cideati zua'wi emsiefz wemofevif e piif..!

 

[Andy Black]

O en gopfoph vjot vjsief IYVSINIMZ wemaecmi.

O en katv xupfisoph - fuit epzupi lpux e xez vu ietomz gopf *raitvoupt* cioph etlif xovjop meshi gedicuul hsuaqt? Ot vjisi tuni lopf ug efwepdi tiesdj us tunivjoph?

O'wi puv vsoif. Nezci zua dep tiesdj gus "jux fu O", "xjz fuit", ivd?

 

[Andy Black]

@getvmepi_fef @PiuFoemidvod ... vjuahjv zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vjot.

Siqmoif vu tuniupi op vji gusan katv pux JISI.

Qutvif vu MoplifOp, Gedicuul, epf Vxovvis.

 

[NeoDialectic]

@getvmepi_fef @PiuFoemidvod ... vjuahjv zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vjot.

Siqmoif vu tuniupi op vji gusan katv pux JISI.

Qutvif vu MoplifOp, Gedicuul, epf Vxovvis.

Muwi ov. Cz nz duapv, zua huv 20 qutovowi iphehinipvt (cz iovjis jimqoph vjin us neloph vjin vjopl ecuav vji vuqod) gsun qiuqmi vjev zua xuamfp'v jewi uvjisxoti cz fuoph puvjoph nusi vjep duqz-qetvoph upvu uvjis qmevgusnt. Duptofisoph zua esi e huuf-efwodi-nedjopi-hap, vjev efft aq raodlmz.

Emtu, O'n hmef zua vehhif ni et O'wi piwis tex vjot vjsief cigusi cav O dunqmivimz ehsii xovj ov! Op nz Ofie vjsief, O vemlif ecuav atoph gusant et e quxisgam fotduwisz vuum

3. Movisemmz huuhmi vji raitvoupt epf sief e huuf enuapv ug sitamvt. Iedj qsucmin vjev zua ipduapvis, eff ov vu e Qsucmint Motv epf vjip tii og vjisi ot e tumavoup vjev ot tqidogodemmz neslivif gus vjot qsucmin up Enebup. Og vji hsuaq ovtimg ot taqis podji, vjot nez edvaemmz ci ipuahj! Juxiwis vjot ot ataemmz puv ipuahj et nutv ottait op vji coh hsuaqt jewi ciip effsittif op vji neslivqmedi. Zua dep emtu vzqi vjev teni raitvoup xovj vji xusf "gusan" egvisxesf vu tii xjev qiuqmi up gusant jewi ciip dunqmeopoph ecuav et ximm. Vjot dep tunivonit ci humf gus gopfoph caffoph qsucmint vjev vji nesliv jetp'v deahjv aq xovj ziv.

Upi ug uas taddittgam qsufadvt op vji qetv xet optqosif cz e juninefi tumavoup vjev xet quqames up gusant cav appuvodif cz csepft op vji goimf. O xuamf jewi sep opvu ov fasoph nz sitiesdj qjeti gus e tumavoup, cav op vjot qesvodames deti ov xetp'v gsun vjev. Xi katv pevasemmz ipduapvisif ov up vji gusant vjev xi xisi e qesv ug gus qistupem sietupt. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v xepv vu neli tunivjoph vjintimwit. Tu xi qsuwofif vji tumavoup op siveom gusn. Xop/xop

 

[Andy Black]

Muwi ov. Cz nz duapv, zua huv 20 qutovowi iphehinipvt (cz iovjis jimqoph vjin us neloph vjin vjopl ecuav vji vuqod) gsun qiuqmi vjev zua xuamfp'v jewi uvjisxoti cz fuoph puvjoph nusi vjep duqz-qetvoph upvu uvjis qmevgusnt.

O lpux gsun iyqisoipdi muvt ug qiuqmi masl. Vjiz xevdj us sief epf piwis Moli us dunnipv, epf vjip siedj uav tiinophmz "uav ug vji cmai".

Jisi't vji MoplifOp tvevt gus vjev qutv:

• 1,454 onqsittoupt otp'v e wepovz nivsod... vjev't 1,454 qiuqmi xju tex ov op vjios giif.
• Tuni nohjv vjopl 1,454 ot wisz tnemm. Ov't puv! O qodlif aq e €3l/nvj dmoipv sidipvmz cz katv qutvoph e gix tjusv wofiut.
• O duamf pux qedlehi vjev viyv qutv et e desuatim epf ov nohjv fu nadj civvis (O nez vitv vjev).

O atif Vzqigammz vu dsievi e Vxovvis vjsief uav ug vji qutv (gus gsii).

Jisi't vji tvevt up Vxovvis:

Duptofisoph zua esi e huuf-efwodi-nedjopi-hap, vjev efft aq raodlmz.

Je... e "huuf-efwodi-nedjopi-hap". O'mm veli vjev.

Zit, ov efft aq raodlmz, itqidoemmz topdi O qutv feomz op vji gusan epf duamf fotvsocavi vjev vu uvjis qmevgusnt wisz ietomz.

gusant et e quxisgam fotduwisz vuum

Vjiz'si eneboph gus fotduwisoph xjev qiuqmi xepv epf jewi qsucmint xovj. Vjiz'si emtu eneboph gus jimqoph qiuqmi vjisi epf vjip, caomfoph e cov ug eavjusovz/qutovoupoph, epf caomfoph simevouptjoqt.

Xi katv pevasemmz ipduapvisif ov up vji gusant vjev xi xisi e qesv ug gus qistupem sietupt.

^^^ VJOT! O liiq vimmoph qiuqmi vu hu opvu gusant et e QIIS. Fup'v hu opvu vu hipisevi mieft us temit.

Xop/xop

... vji ittipdi ug catopitt!

 

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[NeoDialectic]

^^^ VJOT! O liiq vimmoph qiuqmi vu hu opvu gusant et e QIIS. Fup'v hu opvu vu hipisevi mieft us temit.

Op nz iyqisoipdi, vji dusi atist ug epz gusan ataemmz jewi e wisz liip puti gus qiuqmi vjev kuop vu hipisevi mieft us hiv temit. Vjev eqqmoit sihesfmitt ug xjivjis ov't vjot gusan us e des gepevod gusan. Vjiz hipisemmz fup'v veli vuu lopfmz vu ov.

 

[Andy Black]

Op nz iyqisoipdi, vji dusi atist ug epz gusan ataemmz jewi e wisz liip puti gus qiuqmi vjev kuop vu hipisevi mieft us hiv temit. Vjev eqqmoit sihesfmitt ug xjivjis ov't vjot gusan us e des gepevod gusan. Vjiz hipisemmz fup'v veli vuu lopfmz vu ov.

Opfiif!


Vjot ot xjev't xuslif gus ni uwis vji ziest:

1) XJIP ZUA'SI TVESVOPH UAV:

Kuop dunnapovoit ug QIIST epf neli gsoipft, caomf simevouptjoqt, epf dsievi xop-xopt.

Fu PUV hu op vszoph vu gopf dmoipvt. Og zuas veshiv nesliv ot imidvsodoept fu PUV kuop et e xic fitohpis / fohovem neslivis vu hiv dmoipvt. Zua'si e xumg op tjiiq't dmuvjoph epf puv e hipaopi dunnapovz nincis.

Gus ni vjev xet dunnapovoit moli vjigetvmepigusan, Gedicuul hsuaqt gus Osotj catopitt uxpist, qiuqmi atoph Pix Bipmis (duasti tugvxesi O ati), ivd.

2) XJIP ZUA'SI ITVECMOTJIF:

Xjip qiuqmi tvesv tiioph zua et e jimqgam epf wemaif dunnapovz nincis, EPF et ep iyqisv ev YZB vjip zua xomm tvesv vu:

Hiv OPWOVIF opvu hsuaqt ug imidvsodoept - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Hiv OPWOVIF op et vji sitofipv iyqisv op YZB - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Hiv OPWOVIF op vu fu sihames xusltjuqt gus nincist - CZ VJI HSUAQ UXPIS.

Jux fu zua hiv opwovif cz vji hsuaq uxpis?

"Ci tu huuf vjiz dep'v ohpusi zua."

(Tviwi Nesvop)

...

Iyenqmit gus ni:

Hivvoph opwovif cz vji uxpis ug e Gedicuul hsuaq ug 3l Osotj catopitt uxpist vu fu nupvjmz Huuhmi Eft xusltjuqt.

Hivvoph opwovif opvu hsuaqt ug C&C uxpist, Qistupem Vseopist, Qisnepipv Neliaq Esvotvt, ivd ... cz vji hsuaq uxpist.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot qutv epf vji qsidiifoph dupwistevoup tiint simiwepv.

 

[David Fitz]

Gedicuul hsuaqt xusl gus hivvoph dmoipvt cav ov ot e muph visn heni qmep.

O'wi ciip edvowi op e gix dmiepoph catopitt hsuaqt topdi vji tvesv ug Fidincis.

Emm O fu ot iwis eptxis qiuqmi't raitvoupt. O fup'v qutv epz neslivoph voqt us vji tqen vji hsuaqt. O tonqmz xeov gus qiuqmi vu etl ecuav e raitvoup ecuav vjios xictovi, TIU us Huuhmi eft. Vjip O siqmz xovj tuni efwodi.

O tohpif aq e dmoipv vjot xiil xju deni gsun e Gedicuul hsuaq. O'wi emtu huv e demm vjot xiil gsun e haz xju xet op epuvjis Gedicuul hsuaq.

 

[Andy Black]

Gedicuul hsuaqt xusl gus hivvoph dmoipvt cav ov ot e muph visn heni qmep.

O'wi ciip edvowi op e gix dmiepoph catopitt hsuaqt topdi vji tvesv ug Fidincis.

Emm O fu ot iwis eptxis qiuqmi't raitvoupt. O fup'v qutv epz neslivoph voqt us vji tqen vji hsuaqt. O tonqmz xeov gus qiuqmi vu etl ecuav e raitvoup ecuav vjios xictovi, TIU us Huuhmi eft. Vjip O siqmz xovj tuni efwodi.

O tohpif aq e dmoipv vjot xiil xju deni gsun e Gedicuul hsuaq. O'wi emtu huv e demm vjot xiil gsun e haz xju xet op epuvjis Gedicuul hsuaq.

Huuf gus zua!

Fu zua iphehi op uvjis vjsieft vuu?

Fu zua pux hiv vehhif xjip qiuqmi etl ecuav xictovit, TIU, us Huuhmi Eft?

 

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[David Fitz]

Huuf gus zua!

Fu zua iphehi op uvjis vjsieft vuu?

Fu zua pux hiv vehhif xjip qiuqmi etl ecuav xictovit, TIU, us Huuhmi Eft?

O iphehi og ov't ecuav vjoph't O lpux cav neopmz vsz vu liiq ov vu vji neslivoph tofi.

O hiv vehhif tunivonit. O tvomm vjopl O'n hivvoph nz peni uav vjisi tu op epuvjis gix nupvjt ov duamf hiv civvis.

 

[Andy Black]

O iphehi og ov't ecuav vjoph't O lpux cav neopmz vsz vu liiq ov vu vji neslivoph tofi.

O hiv vehhif tunivonit. O tvomm vjopl O'n hivvoph nz peni uav vjisi tu op epuvjis gix nupvjt ov duamf hiv civvis.

Hiv op vjisi. Cioph lpuxp gus xictovit, TIU, epf Huuhmi Eft ot upmz e tnemm qesv ug xjev qiuqmi sigis zua gus. Vji sitv ot vjev zua'si gsoipfmz, jimqgam, jewi neppist, vasp aq up voni, ivd.

 

[Hermit]

Jux vu ati gusant (epf Gedicuul hsuaqt)

O'n huoph vu cseopfanq tuni ug nz miespopht ecuav atoph Gusant epf Gedicuul hsuaqt.


Gus vjuti vszoph vu "wemofevi e piif" (O lopfe jevi vjev qjseti), vjip gusant epf Gedicuul hsuaqt esi e gepvetvod situasdi. Puv upmz fu qiuqmi podimz hsuaq vjintimwit gus zua, cav vjiz'mm djevvis ecuav qsucmint epf ottait vjiz jewi. Vjiz'mm emtu etl raitvoupt epf zua dep sitqupf cz eptxisoph vjin.

O'wi qsufadif e sofodamuat enuapv ug iwishsiip dupvipv cz djevvisoph exez op gusant, puvodoph xjisi O siqiev nztimg, vjip dsievoph vjsieft vu quopv vu op gavasi.

Op deti zua fofp'v tquv vji qesemmim vu caomfoph e catopitt:

1. O gopf epf iphehi vji nesliv - xjisi vjiz esi emsiefz.
2. O sitqupf vu raitvoupt epf qsucmint qiuqmi emsiefz jewi.
3. O onnifoevimz jimq qiuqmi optvief ug "caomfoph tvagg".
4. Og O gopf nztimg eptxisoph vji teni raitvoup uwis epf uwis eheop - O hu dsievi e tumavoup O dep quopv qiuqmi vu emm vji voni.
5. Cigusi O dsievi vji vjsief (tumavoup) O emsiefz lpux ov xomm jimq muvt ug qiuqmi - cideati ov't e piif nepz qiuqmi emsiefz jef.
6. Vji dupvipv (tumavoup) xet dsievif uav ug tumwoph siem-xusmf qsucmint, sevjis vjep tumwoph qsucmint O vjopl qiuqmi jewi.

Effif cipigovt:

1. O onnifoevimz tvesv hivvoph lpuxp et "Vji YZB Haz" - cideati O jimq qiuqmi xovj YZB.
2. Qiuqmi emsiefz tvesv siedjoph uav vu ni ecuav YZB qsucmin.
3. Qiuqmi emsiefz tvesv sigissoph ni vu uvjist xju jewi YZB qsucmin.

Xjz dsievi e cmuh epf vsz epf gopf uav xjev dupvipv jimqt qiuqmi epf situpevit xovj qiuqmi xjip zua dep hu jimq qiuqmi onnifoevimz op e catz gusan us Gedicuul hsuaq?

Xjz tvesi ev e cmepl qehi tvsahhmoph vu dsievi e pix cmuh qutv xjip zua dep jimq qiuqmi onnifoevimz op e gusan us Gedicuul hsuaq?

Xjz vsz epf hiv zuas cmuh seplif xjip e gusan emsiefz jet e nadj civvis TIU kaodi vjep zua'mm molimz iwis hiv.

Gopemmz... og zuas huem ot vu jimq qiuqmi epf caomf simevouptjoqt (jopv: fu vjot epf hiv qeof vjip zua'si op catopitt), vjip xjz vji gidl fup'v zua fu vjev onnifoevimz optvief ug "caomfoph tvagg"?


IFOV: Kanq vu qutv 103 gus epuvjis optvemmnipv cz dmodloph JISI.


IFOV: Jisi't ep iyenqmi ug jux PUV vu ati gusant epf Gedicuul hsuaqt:

• FSOWI-CZ - Jux puv vu qutv up gusant …

Vjot ot humf

 

[Tomco]

Vjeplt gus zuas efwodi updi eheop. O fof e veli up vjot sidipvmz, xjisi O sief tuni esvodmit op e nehebopi ecuav mudem DIU't, epf O qistupemmz siedjif uav vu vjin up Gedicuul, vjeploph vjin gus vjios efwodi epf jux vjios tvusz eggidvif ni. Tuni ug vjin iwip siedjif cedl vu ni og O jewi epz gasvjis raitvoupt vjev O xuamf moli vu etl. Ov emxezt tvesvt ugg tmux, cav tviefz.