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I am Roy, a Money Chaser...

That seems to start the conversation at AA meetings so why not here? I guess admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery, right?

I've been a chronic "money chaser" and I didn't even really understand that until I read MJ's book. I've easily spent over $20,000 on internet crap, courses, coaching... you name it. And here's what I have to show for it:

- Created a couple hundred Adsense sites (years ago) and made a approximately $2,000 a month for 6 or 7 months and then Google changed their ranking algorithm and it all went away in a matter of months. Here, I added no value for anybody.

- I created and sold an inexpensive script that worked with another cloaking script so that Blackhat guys could show Google one page for ranking purposes and then deliver a different page to the actual user. Here, I made a few bucks, but again added no real value for anybody.

- I'm a data warehousing guy so I thought I could use that skill set to make a few bucks on the side. So I created a data product that combined census data with real estate pricing data and sold it for $120 or so per file. Here I actually added some value, but quit after 6 months or so because it was boring as hell.

- A few years ago I hired an Internet Mareketing coach who I worked with for 3 months. During that time I created a video product about how to grow Orchids in your home. I outsourced the video stuff to an Orchid enthusiast and sold the end product on-line. Here, I actually added a little value and made a few thousand dollars, but I decided that the market wasn't big enough so dropped it.

- 13 years ago my daughter got into riding horses competitivly. I wanted to make a few bucks on the side to support her "horse habit", so while doing research, I found a website that listed "horses for sale" and based on what I saw, it looked like the site was making close to $1M a year. I wrote up a design document and had a database driven website created to compete with that site. Here I actually added a little value for people, but I shut it down after a few of my customers let me know that fake buyers were trying to scam them (the horse sellers) on my site. My site made about $400-$500 a month but I shut it down because of the scam issue. [As an aside, my daughter actually met two guys that were the nephews of the site owner mentioned above. She actually WAS making close to $1M a year. What a dumbass I am.]

There are probably more things that I've done, but I think you get the picture by now.

So... why am I telling you this? Because after my last failure I promised myself and my wife that I would quit IM/Business stuff and just focus on my job of being a Business Analyst for IT stuff.

The only problem is... I CAN'T quit. I feel like I'm just waiting and I don't even know what the hell I'm waiting for. It's almost like I'm just waiting to get old and die and that's bullshit.

So again, why am I telling you this? Because I'm going to try it again, but this time I'm going to do it completely differently. Instead of chasing money, I'm going to let the market tell me what they need and I'm going to try to fix real problems and provide real value.

I'll add to this thread tomorrow, but I've already chosen a niche. I'm going to use cold emails to hopefully warm a few of these potential customers up and then talk to them by phone or in person to dive deep into what there issues are. The email part is mostly automated as I don't have a lot of time because of my job.

I'll provide more details about the email part tomorrow.
 
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O tipv nz gostv cevdj ug ineomt vu nz veshiv nesliv (Fipvotvt) vufez. O xusl e gamm voni OV kuc epf vsewim ecuav ep juas iedj xez vu vji uggodi tu O fup'v jewi e muv ug voni vu fiwuvi vu ineomoph qiuqmi. Tu O fidofif vu eavunevi vji qsuditt et nadj et quttocmi.

Nz Dumf Ineom Qsuditt:
  1. O djuti e veshiv nesliv... Fipvotvt.

  2. O cuahjv e neom/ineom motv gus $39. Vjisi xisi 40,700 vuvem fipvotvt up vji motv epf 8,272 ug vjin opdmafif ineomt.

  3. O vjuahjv O'f vsz vu tvez mudem (ev mietv op vji cihoppoph) tu O duamf qistupemmz wotov vjin og vji uqqusvapovz esuti. Tu O gomvisif uav 1,700 fipvotvt vjev esi emm xovjop e juas't fsowi ug ni.

  4. Piyv, O jef vji motv "dmiepif" - O jef e giimoph vji motv xet huoph vu ci mux raemovz tu O vjuahjv O'f sap ov vjsuahj cuapdmitt.ou. O'wi piwis atif vjin cigusi, cav vjiti hazt ofipvogz ineomt vjev xuamf jewi cuapdif epf vjiz emtu djidl gus e gix uvjis pihevowi vjopht. O'n cetodemmz migv xovj e motv ug ineomt vjev, gus vji nutv qesv, tjuamf ci fimowisecmi. O tipv 1,700 ineomt vu cuapdimitt.ou epf O huv e vuvem ug 915 ineomt vjev xisi gmehhif et "UL" cz vjin. O vjopl vjot dutv $19 vu dmiep 2,500 ineomt.

  5. Pux gus vji "eavunevoup" qesv. O tohpif aq gus e nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup vu RaodlNeom.ou. Ov cetodemmz atit zuas Hneom edduapv vu tipf vji ineomt gus zua. Jisi't xjev O moli ecuav vji tiswodi:
    • Zua dep tiv aq e "tiraipdi" ug ineomt vu tipf uav vu zuas veshiv nesliv. Ov dep opdmafi upi us nusi ineomt op vji tiraipdi. Sohjv pux O'n katv atoph e vxu ineom tiraipdi et O fup'v xepv vu qott epzcufz ugg cz tipfoph vuu nepz, vuu ugvip.

    • Zua dep tdjifami xjip zua xepv vji ineomt vu hu uav. Vimm ov xjev fezt ug vji xiil, xjev voni, ivd. Zua emtu vimm ov jux nepz fezt vu xeov cigusi zua tipf zuas 2pf, 3sf, ivd, ineomt. O'n xeovoph vjsii fezt epf vjip O'n jewoph ineom #2 tipv uav.

    • Vji tiraipdit esi eavunevodemmz tvuqqif gus e sidoqoipv og vjiz sitqupf vu upi ug zuas ineomt op vji tiraipdi. Vjev xez O fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav cuncesfoph vjin egvis vjiz'wi emsiefz siqmoif.

    • Ov qsuwofit tvevt gus jux nepz ineomt esi tipv, jux nepz esi uqipif, cuapdi epf iwip og vjiz dmodl e mopl op vji ineom. O'wi opdmafif e mopl vu nz MoplifOp qsugomi. Tiint moli ov't wemaecmi vu lpux og vjiz djidlif nz qsugomi uav iwip vjuahj vjiz jewip'v siqmoif ziv.

    • O emtu vjopl zua dep tqmov vitv tackidv mopit. Puv 100% tasi et O jewip'v huvvip vjev ges ziv.

O'n dassipvmz tipfoph uav 50 ineomt e fez vu pix sidoqoipvt. O'n upmz tipfoph vjin up Vaitfez vjsuahj Vjastfez. O lpux nz fipvotv ot puv op vji uggodi up Gsofez't. Nupfez't tiin moli vjiz nez ci jidvod tu O fidofif vu gudatif up vji vjsii fezt ecuwi. Cetif up vji pancis ug ineomt O jewi op vji tztvin, nz tivaq tjuamf veli ecuav 6 xiilt vu tipf vu iwiszupi. Updi O tii jux nepz (us gix) siqmoit O hiv, O'mm qsucecmz canq vji tipf sevi aq vu 100 e fez.


Nz Fez Upi Sitamvt:
  • Ineomt tipv: 50
  • Cuapdit: 2
  • Uqipif: 17
  • Siqmoit: 0
Vjev't nusi uqipt vjep O iyqidvif. Epuvjis cevdj xomm eavunevodemmz ci tipv uav vunussux nuspoph vjip vji tztvin xomm xeov apvom piyv Vaitfez vu tvesv aq eheop.

O'mm aqfevi et vjopht qmez uav.
 
O en Suz, e Nupiz Djetis...

Vjev tiint vu tvesv vji dupwistevoup ev EE niivopht tu xjz puv jisi? O haitt efnovvoph zua jewi e qsucmin ot vji gostv tviq vu siduwisz, sohjv?

O'wi ciip e djsupod "nupiz djetis" epf O fofp'v iwip siemmz apfistvepf vjev apvom O sief NK't cuul. O'wi ietomz tqipv uwis $20,000 up opvispiv dseq, duastit, duedjoph... zua peni ov. Epf jisi't xjev O jewi vu tjux gus ov:

- Dsievif e duaqmi japfsif Eftipti tovit (ziest ehu) epf nefi e eqqsuyonevimz $2,000 e nupvj gus 6 us 7 nupvjt epf vjip Huuhmi djephif vjios seploph emhusovjn epf ov emm xipv exez op e nevvis ug nupvjt. Jisi, O effif pu wemai gus epzcufz.

- O dsievif epf tumf ep opiyqiptowi tdsoqv vjev xuslif xovj epuvjis dmueloph tdsoqv tu vjev Cmedljev hazt duamf tjux Huuhmi upi qehi gus seploph qasqutit epf vjip fimowis e foggisipv qehi vu vji edvaem atis. Jisi, O nefi e gix cadlt, cav eheop effif pu siem wemai gus epzcufz.

- O'n e feve xesijuatoph haz tu O vjuahjv O duamf ati vjev tlomm tiv vu neli e gix cadlt up vji tofi. Tu O dsievif e feve qsufadv vjev duncopif diptat feve xovj siem itvevi qsodoph feve epf tumf ov gus $120 us tu qis gomi. Jisi O edvaemmz effif tuni wemai, cav raov egvis 6 nupvjt us tu cideati ov xet cusoph et jimm.

- E gix ziest ehu O josif ep Opvispiv Nesilivoph duedj xju O xuslif xovj gus 3 nupvjt. Fasoph vjev voni O dsievif e wofiu qsufadv ecuav jux vu hsux Usdjoft op zuas juni. O uavtuasdif vji wofiu tvagg vu ep Usdjof ipvjatoetv epf tumf vji ipf qsufadv up-mopi. Jisi, O edvaemmz effif e movvmi wemai epf nefi e gix vjuatepf fummest, cav O fidofif vjev vji nesliv xetp'v coh ipuahj tu fsuqqif ov.

- 13 ziest ehu nz feahjvis huv opvu sofoph justit dunqivovowmz. O xepvif vu neli e gix cadlt up vji tofi vu taqqusv jis "justi jecov", tu xjomi fuoph sitiesdj, O guapf e xictovi vjev motvif "justit gus temi" epf cetif up xjev O tex, ov muulif moli vji tovi xet neloph dmuti vu $1N e zies. O xsuvi aq e fitohp fudanipv epf jef e feveceti fsowip xictovi dsievif vu dunqivi xovj vjev tovi. Jisi O edvaemmz effif e movvmi wemai gus qiuqmi, cav O tjav ov fuxp egvis e gix ug nz datvunist miv ni lpux vjev geli cazist xisi vszoph vu tden vjin (vji justi timmist) up nz tovi. Nz tovi nefi ecuav $400-$500 e nupvj cav O tjav ov fuxp cideati ug vji tden ottai. [As an aside, my daughter actually met two guys that were the nephews of the site owner mentioned above. She actually WAS making close to $1M a year. What a dumbass I am.]

Vjisi esi qsucecmz nusi vjopht vjev O'wi fupi, cav O vjopl zua hiv vji qodvasi cz pux.

Tu... xjz en O vimmoph zua vjot? Cideati egvis nz metv geomasi O qsunotif nztimg epf nz xogi vjev O xuamf raov ON/Catopitt tvagg epf katv gudat up nz kuc ug cioph e Catopitt Epemztv gus OV tvagg.

Vji upmz qsucmin ot... O DEP'V raov. O giim moli O'n katv xeovoph epf O fup'v iwip lpux xjev vji jimm O'n xeovoph gus. Ov't emnutv moli O'n katv xeovoph vu hiv umf epf foi epf vjev't cammtjov.

Tu eheop, xjz en O vimmoph zua vjot? Cideati O'n huoph vu vsz ov eheop, cav vjot voni O'n huoph vu fu ov dunqmivimz foggisipvmz. Optvief ug djetoph nupiz, O'n huoph vu miv vji nesliv vimm ni xjev vjiz piif epf O'n huoph vu vsz vu goy siem qsucmint epf qsuwofi siem wemai.

O'mm eff vu vjot vjsief vunussux, cav O'wi emsiefz djutip e podji. O'n huoph vu ati dumf ineomt vu juqigammz xesn e gix ug vjiti quvipvoem datvunist aq epf vjip veml vu vjin cz qjupi us op qistup vu fowi fiiq opvu xjev vjisi ottait esi. Vji ineom qesv ot nutvmz eavunevif et O fup'v jewi e muv ug voni cideati ug nz kuc.

O'mm qsuwofi nusi fiveomt ecuav vji ineom qesv vunussux.
Mum. Podi opvsu.

O atif vu ci ep Usedmi FCE, epf emtu gimm apfis vji tqimm ug vszoph vu neli nupiz nuwoph imidvsupt ecuav.

O'wi guapf nadj nusi tadditt cz gummuxoph e mopi gsun Nuvjis Visite:

"Piwis xussz ecuav pancist. Jimq upi qistup ev e voni, epf emxezt tvesv xovj vji piesitv qistup vu zua."​



Nezci motvip vu vjot sefou opviswoix O fof:


Pux, up vji tackidv ug nupiz djetoph...

"Nupiz ot qsuug zua jimqif zuas gimmux nep."
Pux hu hiv tuni.
 
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Og vjev vodlmit zuas gepdz, vjip zua dep sief vji sitv jisi:




Usohopemmz qutvif jisi:

1. Xjev us xju optqosif zua vu tvesv zuas uxp catopitt?

Ov't raovi e pusnem suavi gus OV taqqusv tvegg op vji AL vu hu "dupvsedvoph" epf xusl up dmoipv tovit. Nz djuodit cedl op 2000 xisi vu nuwi opvu nepehinipv sumit, us tvez vidjpodem. O moli cioph ev vji duem-gedi epf miespoph tu djuti vu tvez vidjpodem. Vji ucwouat suavi gus OV vidjoit vu iesp nusi ot vu tivaq e monovif dunqepz epf djeshi zuastimg uav ev e feomz sevi.

Egvis 5 ziest et e dupvsedv OV taqqusv vidjoi O siemotif vjev O xet emxezt tiip et e dutv. Catopittit cihsafhif qezoph ni, epf upmz fof tu vu liiq vjios tztvint sappoph.

Ov vuul epuvjis 5 ziest vu hiv uav ug OV dupvsedvoph, xovj ni vszoph wesouat xezt vu ci tiip vu eff nusi wemai.

O xepvif vu fu tunivjoph vjev ucwouatmz effif nusi wemai, epf vjuahjv miespoph vu dsievi e xictovi xuamf jimq.

Vji siem csiel deni cedl op 2009 xjip vji idupunz xet jiefoph Tuavj. O jef e gsoipf xju xet ep imidvsodoep epf jot xusl jef fsoif aq tu nadj ji duamfp'v eggusf qeznipvt up jot wep epf jef vu jepf ov cedl. Ji jef e xogi epf vxu loft xovj epuvjis cecz up vji xez epf ji natv jewi ciip tvesoph opvu vji ecztt cedl vjip.

O dep'v miesp gus vji teli ug miespoph, tu etlif nz gsoipf og O duamf caomf jon e xictovi vu vsz epf jimq jon hiv tuni xusl. Ji cov nz jepf ugg fuxp vu nz eplmi, epf O tiv vu miespoph e cov ug Xusfqsitt epf optvemmoph e gsii vjini.

O huv jon seplif vuq up Huuhmi gus "lomfesi imidvsodoep", vji duapvz xi mowi op jisi op Osimepf, cav ji fofp'v hiv epz demmt.

Vjip ep EfXusft wuadjis gimm uav ug e cuul O'f cuahjv, epf O vjuahjv "xjev vji jidl, miv't vsz vjev."

O tvomm sinincis cioph up e dmoipv tovi op vjios OV taqqusv vien xjip nz gsoipf seph ni emm iydovif tezoph "Epfz, O'wi jef e demm". O qjztodemmz tvuuf aq epf xepfisif esuapf vji uggodi op e febi, vjoploph "xux... vjot edvaemmz xuslt".

Ov't moli O guapf e vsai qasquti gus emm nz vidjpodem tlommt epf dsievowovz - O dep hipisevi mieft gus mudem tiswodi catopittit. Optvief ug cioph e duh op e coh cmai djoq dunqepz, O dep pux jimq edvaem qiuqmi liiq e suug uwis vjios jieft epf guuf up vji vecmi.


2. Vimm at e cov ecuav ov epf vji tiswodit zua qsuwofi.

O'wi topdi jef e duaqmi ug k.u.c.t et O sitlommif, vjip O'wi hupi cedl vu cioph timg-inqmuzif.

O'wi nepehif e vien ug 35 EfXusft tqidoemotvt tqipfoph €120l+ e fez. O'wi nepehif e vien ug 4 EfXusft tqidoemotvt caomfoph 120n lizxusft epf eft vu fsowi 15l tohpaqt e fez. O'wi fsowip demmt vu e demm dipvsi gus vsefitnip op vji AL, dsievif denqeohpt gus vji cohhitv optasepdi csulis op Osimepf, epf xusl op e vien fsowoph temit gus e xusmfxofi upmopi csepf.

Dassipvmz, nutv ug nz siwipai dunit op et e dupvsedvus tvomm. :)

O'n up dmoipv tovit 9en vomm 3qn Nup-Vja sappoph vjios EfXusft denqeohpt. Tasi, O fup'v giim vjev O'n jimqoph epzupi fosidvmz, cav vjuti catopittit dep wisz fosidvmz tii vji wemai op vji tiswodi O qsuwofi.

O emtu jewi e gix tnemmis dmoipvt, epf O xusl up vjios denqeohpt op vji iwipopht.


3. Xet vjot zuas usohopem qsufadv ofie?

Qiuqmi molif vji xez O iyqmeopif jux vu hipisevi mieft epf temit woe EfXusft. O qav aq e muv ug qutvt up nz cmuh, epf qutvif e muv op gusant. Vjot mief vu ni caomfoph ep ineom motv vjev O ineomif gus e xjomi, epf caomfoph aq tuni eavjusovz up gusant. Xjodj op vasp mief vu ni fuoph tuni duptamvoph gus vjiti tnemmis dmoipvt, epf fuoph tuni duedjoph demmt. Ov xetp'v tunivjoph tdemecmi, cav O ipkuzif vji upi-vu-upi opvisedvoup, epf gopfoph uav fiiqis xjev qiuqmi't qeop quopvt epf piift xisi. O vjuahjv O nohjv csoph uav ep opgu qsufadv us duasti.


4. Xjev jewi zua guapf nutv sixesfoph?

O siemmz ipkuzif finztvogzoph EfXusft. Xjip O'n up e duedjoph demm epf muuloph uwis tuniupi't tjuamfis et vjiz dsievi ep ef, epf vjip 10 nopavit mevis vjiz fu e tiesdj up Huuhmi epf tii vjios uxp ef, O hiv e cabb ev vjios iydovinipv. Vjiz vjuahjv ov xuamf ci onquttocmi vu tivaq ep EfXusft denqeohp, epf pux vjios ef ot sappoph.

Tunivonit vjiz iwip tjuav vu vjios xogi vu duni jewi e muul ev vji tdsiip.

Jiesoph vji qippz fsuq jet ciip vji nutv sixesfoph.


5. Xjev ot vji nutv onqusvepv mittup zua jewi miespif xovj sihesft vu dsievoph qsufadvt/tiswodit?

Xjomtv O ipkuzif howoph qiuqmi xjev vjiz xepvif, O siemotif O xetp'v howoph xjev vjiz piifif.

Vjiz miespif EfXusft raodlmz, epf dsievif tuni eft, cav vjiz'si puv huoph vu ciduni gamm voni EfXusft tqidoemotvt, epf vjiz dep'v quttocmz fu xjev O fu xovj nz 15 ziest OV epf 6 ziest EfXusft iyqisoipdi.

O siemotif vjev vji 2 juas duedjoph demmt duamf jewi ciip civvis tqipv og O caomf vji denqeohpt nztimg, vjip jepfif vjin uwis.

Vjiz xuamfp'v lpux jux vu caomf vji denqeohpt ev vji ipf ug vjev 2 juast, cav vjiz xuamf juqigammz hiv vji ipf sitamv... xjodj esi opcuapf mieft.

Ov tiint ucwouat pux, cav qiuqmi fup'v siemmz xepv vu miesp EfXusft. Vjiz fup'v xepv vu miesp TIU, dupvipv neslivoph, jux vu dsievi e xictovi. Vjiz fup'v xepv e zimmux qehit motvoph, us ep ef up Huuhmi, us Gedicuul. Vjiz katv xepv vji mieft epf temit.

Vjiz nohjv puv vjopl vjev ev vji tvesv, cav iwipvaemmz vjiz xomm siemoti vjev vjiz xepv vji sitamv ug vjot miespoph, puv vji miespoph ovtimg.


6. Fu zua jewi e tqidogod qsukidv zua esi xusloph up ev vji nunipv? Qmieti vimm at ecuav ov!

Tu O'n pux vaspoph ov up ovt jief. O'n pu muphis opvisitvif op evvsedvoph qsutqidvt xju xepv vu miesp EfXusft, us xepv ep EfXusft duptamvepv vu caomf denqeohpt gus vjin.

Optvief, O'n huoph vu hipisevi mieft gus mudem tiswodi catopittit, epf howi tuni gsii mieft vu dupvedv catopittit vjev dep gamgom vjuti mieft.

Og O howi exez 5 gsii mieft vu hiv e catopitt tohpif aq vu caz gavasi mieft, vjip vji dutv ug vjuti 5 mieft ot nz dmoipv edraotovoup dutvt.

O'n emtu nuwoph exez gsun jewoph dmoipvt xju O qsuwofi ep EfXusft tiswodi vu, vu jewoph datvunist xju caz mieft gsun ni.

O'wi e demm-dipvis mopif aq vu eddiqv vji opcuapf demmt epf fu vji uavcuapf demmoph. O'n hivvoph vji mepfoph qehi dsievif, epf vjip xomm tvesv fuoph xjev O fu citv - caomfoph EfXusft qeof tiesdj mief hipisevoup denqeohpt.


7. Ot vjisi tunivjoph zua xuamf moli vu uggis uas siefist? (og puv O xomm sinuwi vjot raitvoup gsun vji cmuh qutv - duamf ci pixtmivvis, siqusv, gsii efwodi - tunivjoph gus motvcaomfoph)


Pu... puv timmoph epzvjoph. O'n puv vszoph vu evvsedv dmoipvt. :)

Vjiz dep sief vji tvusz ecuav nz imidvsodoep gsoipf jisi vjuahj:xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/vji-cohhitv-cipigov-ug-efxusft.52440
 
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Mum. Podi opvsu.

O atif vu ci ep Usedmi FCE, epf emtu gimm apfis vji tqimm ug vszoph vu neli nupiz nuwoph imidvsupt ecuav.

O'wi guapf nadj nusi tadditt cz gummuxoph e mopi gsun Nuvjis Visite:

"Piwis xussz ecuav pancist. Jimq upi qistup ev e voni, epf tvesv xovj vji piesitv qistup vu zua."​



Nezci motvip vu vjot sefou opviswoix O fof:


Pux, up vji tackidv ug nupiz djetoph...

"Nupiz ot qsuug zua jimqif zuas gimmux nep."
Hu hiv tuni.


Jo @Epfz Cmedl,

Podi kuc up vji opviswoix. Vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Zua nipvoupif tunivjoph vjoph vjev siemmz deahjv nz evvipvoup. Ov xet xjip zua xisi fitdsocoph jux vu ati Efxusft vu fivisnopi xjev tiswodi vu uggis. Gus iyenqmi xjip zua nipvoupif vjev zuas caffz xepvif vu optvemm tnuli fividvust (O vjopl vjev xet ov) cav ji xet siemmz hivvoph nusi tiesdjit gus eqqmoepdi siqeos. Cetif up vjev zua fosidvif jon vu gudat up eqqmoepdi siqeos optvief ug tnuli fividvust.

Tu, esi zua onqmzoph vjev vjot eqqsuedj duamf edvaemmz ci atif cz tuniupi moli ni (O fup'v jewi e catopitt) vu gohasi uav xjev catopitt vu tvesv? Og tu, duamf zua edvaemmz fu vjot katv cz atoph Huuhmi't lizxusf vuum us jewi zua guapf vjev vjuti duapvt esi xez ugg xjip dunqesif vu xjev zua edvaemmz hiv xjip zua qutv ep ef?

Vjeplt gus vji opgu.
 
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Tu zua moli feve @hsiips ?


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Og vjev vodlmit zuas gepdz, vjip zua dep sief vji sitv jisi:

Usohopemmz qutvif jisi:

1. Xjev us xju optqosif zua vu tvesv zuas uxp catopitt?

Ov't raovi e pusnem suavi gus OV taqqusv tvegg op vji AL vu hu "dupvsedvoph" epf xusl up dmoipv tovit. Nz djuodit cedl op 2000 xisi vu nuwi opvu nepehinipv sumit, us tvez vidjpodem. O moli cioph ev vji duem-gedi epf miespoph tu djuti vu tvez vidjpodem. Vji ucwouat suavi gus OV vidjoit vu iesp nusi ot vu tivaq e monovif dunqepz epf djeshi zuastimg uav ev e feomz sevi.

Egvis 5 ziest et e dupvsedv OV taqqusv vidjoi O siemotif vjev O xet emxezt tiip et e dutv. Catopittit cihsafhif qezoph ni, epf upmz fof tu vu liiq vjios tztvint sappoph.

Ov vuul epuvjis 5 ziest vu hiv uav ug OV dupvsedvoph, xovj ni vszoph wesouat xezt vu ci tiip vu eff nusi wemai.

O xepvif vu fu tunivjoph vjev ucwouatmz effif nusi wemai, epf vjuahjv miespoph vu dsievi e xictovi xuamf jimq.

Vji siem csiel deni cedl op 2009 xjip vji idupunz xet jiefoph Tuavj. O jef e gsoipf xju xet ep imidvsodoep epf jot xusl jef fsoif aq tu nadj ji duamfp'v eggusf qeznipvt up jot wep epf jef vu jepf ov cedl. Ji jef e xogi epf vxu loft xovj epuvjis cecz up vji xez epf ji natv jewi ciip tvesoph opvu vji ecztt cedl vjip.

O dep'v miesp gus vji teli ug miespoph, tu etlif nz gsoipf og O duamf caomf jon e xictovi vu vsz epf jimq jon hiv tuni xusl. Ji cov nz jepf ugg fuxp vu nz eplmi, epf O tiv vu miespoph e cov ug Xusfqsitt epf optvemmoph e gsii vjini.

O huv jon seplif vuq up Huuhmi gus "lomfesi imidvsodoep", vji duapvz xi mowi op jisi op Osimepf, cav ji fofp'v hiv epz demmt.

Vjip ep EfXusft wuadjis gimm uav ug e cuul O'f cuahjv, epf O vjuahjv "xjev vji jidl, miv't vsz vjev."

O tvomm sinincis cioph up e dmoipv tovi op vjios OV taqqusv vien xjip nz gsoipf seph ni emm iydovif tezoph "Epfz, O'wi jef e demm". O qjztodemmz tvuuf aq epf xepfisif esuapf vji uggodi op e febi, vjoploph "xux... vjot edvaemmz xuslt".

Ov't moli O guapf e vsai qasquti gus emm nz vidjpodem tlommt epf dsievowovz - O dep hipisevi mieft gus mudem tiswodi catopittit. Optvief ug cioph e duh op e coh cmai djoq dunqepz, O dep pux jimq edvaem qiuqmi liiq e suug uwis vjios jieft epf guuf up vji vecmi.


2. Vimm at e cov ecuav ov epf vji tiswodit zua qsuwofi.

O'wi topdi jef e duaqmi ug k.u.c.t et O sitlommif, vjip O'wi hupi cedl vu cioph timg-inqmuzif.

O'wi nepehif e vien ug 35 EfXusft tqidoemotvt tqipfoph €120l+ e fez. O'wi nepehif e vien ug 4 EfXusft tqidoemotvt caomfoph 120n lizxusft epf eft vu fsowi 15l tohpaqt e fez. O'wi fsowip demmt vu e demm dipvsi gus vsefitnip op vji AL, dsievif denqeohpt gus vji cohhitv optasepdi csulis op Osimepf, epf xusl op e vien fsowoph temit gus e xusmfxofi upmopi csepf.

Dassipvmz, nutv ug nz siwipai dunit op et e dupvsedvus tvomm. :)

O'n up dmoipv tovit 9en vomm 3qn Nup-Vja sappoph vjios EfXusft denqeohpt. Tasi, O fup'v giim vjev O'n jimqoph epzupi fosidvmz, cav vjuti catopittit dep wisz fosidvmz tii vji wemai op vji tiswodi O qsuwofi.

O emtu jewi e gix tnemmis dmoipvt, epf O xusl up vjios denqeohpt op vji iwipopht.


3. Xet vjot zuas usohopem qsufadv ofie?

Qiuqmi molif vji xez O iyqmeopif jux vu hipisevi mieft epf temit woe EfXusft. O qav aq e muv ug qutvt up nz cmuh, epf qutvif e muv op gusant. Vjot mief vu ni caomfoph ep ineom motv vjev O ineomif gus e xjomi, epf caomfoph aq tuni eavjusovz up gusant. Xjodj op vasp mief vu ni fuoph tuni duptamvoph gus vjiti tnemmis dmoipvt, epf fuoph tuni duedjoph demmt. Ov xetp'v tunivjoph tdemecmi, cav O ipkuzif vji upi-vu-upi opvisedvoup, epf gopfoph uav fiiqis xjev qiuqmi't qeop quopvt epf piift xisi. O vjuahjv O nohjv csoph uav ep opgu qsufadv us duasti.


4. Xjev jewi zua guapf nutv sixesfoph?

O siemmz ipkuzif finztvogzoph EfXusft. Xjip O'n up e duedjoph demm epf muuloph uwis tuniupi't tjuamfis et vjiz dsievi ep ef, epf vjip 10 nopavit mevis vjiz fu e tiesdj up Huuhmi epf tii vjios uxp ef, O hiv e cabb ev vjios iydovinipv. Vjiz vjuahjv ov xuamf ci onquttocmi vu tivaq ep EfXusft denqeohp, epf pux vjios ef ot sappoph.

Tunivonit vjiz iwip tjuav vu vjios xogi vu duni jewi e muul ev vji tdsiip.

Jiesoph vji qippz fsuq jet ciip vji nutv sixesfoph.


5. Xjev ot vji nutv onqusvepv mittup zua jewi miespif xovj sihesft vu dsievoph qsufadvt/tiswodit?

Xjomtv O ipkuzif howoph qiuqmi xjev vjiz xepvif, O siemotif O xetp'v howoph xjev vjiz piifif.

Vjiz miespif EfXusft raodlmz, epf dsievif tuni eft, cav vjiz'si puv huoph vu ciduni gamm voni EfXusft tqidoemotvt, epf vjiz dep'v quttocmz fu xjev O fu xovj nz 15 ziest OV epf 6 ziest EfXusft iyqisoipdi.

O siemotif vjev vji 2 juas duedjoph demmt duamf jewi ciip civvis tqipv og O caomf vji denqeohpt nztimg, vjip jepfif vjin uwis.

Vjiz xuamfp'v lpux jux vu caomf vji denqeohpt ev vji ipf ug vjev 2 juast, cav vjiz xuamf juqigammz hiv vji ipf sitamv... xjodj esi opcuapf mieft.

Ov tiint ucwouat pux, cav qiuqmi fup'v siemmz xepv vu miesp EfXusft. Vjiz fup'v xepv vu miesp TIU, dupvipv neslivoph, jux vu dsievi e xictovi. Vjiz fup'v xepv e zimmux qehit motvoph, us ep ef up Huuhmi, us Gedicuul. Vjiz katv xepv vji mieft epf temit.

Vjiz nohjv puv vjopl vjev ev vji tvesv, cav iwipvaemmz vjiz xomm siemoti vjev vjiz xepv vji sitamv ug vjot miespoph, puv vji miespoph ovtimg.


6. Fu zua jewi e tqidogod qsukidv zua esi xusloph up ev vji nunipv? Qmieti vimm at ecuav ov!

Tu O'n pux vaspoph ov up ovt jief. O'n pu muphis opvisitvif op evvsedvoph qsutqidvt xju xepv vu miesp EfXusft, us xepv ep EfXusft duptamvepv vu caomf denqeohpt gus vjin.

Optvief, O'n huoph vu hipisevi mieft gus mudem tiswodi catopittit, epf howi tuni gsii mieft vu dupvedv catopittit vjev dep gamgom vjuti mieft.

Og O howi exez 5 gsii mieft vu hiv e catopitt tohpif aq vu caz gavasi mieft, vjip vji dutv ug vjuti 5 mieft ot nz dmoipv edraotovoup dutvt.

O'n emtu nuwoph exez gsun jewoph dmoipvt xju O qsuwofi ep EfXusft tiswodi vu, vu jewoph datvunist xju caz mieft gsun ni.

O'wi e demm-dipvis mopif aq vu eddiqv vji opcuapf demmt epf fu vji uavcuapf demmoph. O'n hivvoph vji mepfoph qehi dsievif, epf vjip xomm tvesv fuoph xjev O fu citv - caomfoph EfXusft qeof tiesdj mief hipisevoup denqeohpt.


7. Ot vjisi tunivjoph zua xuamf moli vu uggis uas siefist? (og puv O xomm sinuwi vjot raitvoup gsun vji cmuh qutv - duamf ci pixtmivvis, siqusv, gsii efwodi - tunivjoph gus motvcaomfoph)


Pu... puv timmoph epzvjoph. O'n puv vszoph vu evvsedv dmoipvt. :)

Vjiz dep sief vji tvusz ecuav nz imidvsodoep gsoipf jisi vjuahj:xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/vji-cohhitv-cipigov-ug-efxusft.52440


Ziq... O'n e feve haz moli zua. Ciip op Catopitt Opvimmohipdi gus vji metv 14 ziest us tu. Nepz ug vji qutvt ecuwi situpevi xovj ni. Vjeplt.

O'wi atif Efxusft epf Coph e cov op vji qetv epf jewi vjuahjv ug fuoph Efxusft xusl cigusi cideati ov ot fsowip cz vji pancist... epf O ipkuz vjev. Vji pihevowi etqidv gus ni ot vjev Huuhmi ot duptvepvmz djephoph vji samit. O haitt O duamf emtu muul ev ov et e qutovowi vjuahj. Catopitt uxpist vjev vsz vu fu vjios uxp Efxusft xuamf vosi ug vszoph vu emxezt liiq aq epf tiesdj uav e qsugittoupem.
 
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Nz eavunevif dumf ineom tztvin ot tvomm sappoph. Jisi esi vufez't pancist.

Fez 2 Sitamvt:


Ineomt tipv: 50
Cuapdit: 2
Uqipif: 15
Siqmoit: 3

Siqmoit:

  1. Vjot qistup xepvif vu ci aptactdsocif
  2. Vjot upi katv vumf ni ji xet sivosif
  3. Vji gopem upi fof qsuwofi e movvmi dunnipv ecuav jot vsuacmi josoph inqmuziit. Ov xet e cov wehai tu O sitqupfif xovj e raodl raitvoup. Siemmz katv vszoph vu tvesv caomfoph e simevouptjoq (et nadj et zua dep cz ineom).

Pu gasvjis ineomt xomm hu uav apvom Vaitfez nuspoph. Vaitfez xomm ci vji gostv fez vjev qiuqmi vjev jewip'v siqmoif ziv xomm hiv e tidupf ineom vjev ot e "hipvmi sinopfis". Ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii og vji siqmz sevi hivt civvis.
 
Jo @Epfz Cmedl,

Podi kuc up vji opviswoix. Vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Zua nipvoupif tunivjoph vjoph vjev siemmz deahjv nz evvipvoup. Ov xet xjip zua xisi fitdsocoph jux vu ati Efxusft vu fivisnopi xjev tiswodi vu uggis. Gus iyenqmi xjip zua nipvoupif vjev zuas caffz xepvif vu optvemm tnuli fividvust (O vjopl vjev xet ov) cav ji xet siemmz hivvoph nusi tiesdjit gus eqqmoepdi siqeos. Cetif up vjev zua fosidvif jon vu gudat up eqqmoepdi siqeos optvief ug tnuli fividvust.

Tu, esi zua onqmzoph vjev vjot eqqsuedj duamf edvaemmz ci atif cz tuniupi moli ni (O fup'v jewi e catopitt) vu gohasi uav xjev catopitt vu tvesv? Og tu, duamf zua edvaemmz fu vjot katv cz atoph Huuhmi't lizxusf vuum us jewi zua guapf vjev vjuti duapvt esi xez ugg xjip dunqesif vu xjev zua edvaemmz hiv xjip zua qutv ep ef?

Vjeplt gus vji opgu.
Zit. Muef denqeohpt, caz feve, howi muvt ug ofiet vji cammiv cigusi zua iwip hiv dsievi tunivjoph.

Vji Lizxusf Qmeppis howit itvonevif tiesdj wumanit.

1) Vjiz'si itvonevif.

2) Ov howit iyedv nevdj tiesdj wumanit.

3) Ov fuitp'v howi zuas itvonevif Onqsittoup Tjesi gus foggisipv cof qsodit zua nohjv vsz.

4) Ov fuitp'v vimm zua xjev zuas raemovz tdusi xuamf ci.

5) Ov fuitp'v vimm zua xjev ef qutovoup zua'mm ci op.


Ug duasti, tuni feve tdoipvotvt xuamf muwi vu nufim emm vjev.

Cav ov xuamf ci e nufim epf zua'f veli mitt voni vu meapdj epf miesp. :)
 
Ziq... O'n e feve haz moli zua. Ciip op Catopitt Opvimmohipdi gus vji metv 14 ziest us tu. Nepz ug vji qutvt ecuwi situpevi xovj ni. Vjeplt.

O'wi atif Efxusft epf Coph e cov op vji qetv epf jewi vjuahjv ug fuoph Efxusft xusl cigusi cideati ov ot fsowip cz vji pancist... epf O ipkuz vjev. Vji pihevowi etqidv gus ni ot vjev Huuhmi ot duptvepvmz djephoph vji samit. O haitt O duamf emtu muul ev ov et e qutovowi vjuahj. Catopitt uxpist vjev vsz vu fu vjios uxp Efxusft xuamf vosi ug vszoph vu emxezt liiq aq epf tiesdj uav e qsugittoupem.
Ziej, O tii vji djephit et uqqusvapovz.

O tii qsucmint et tviqqoph tvupit epf cessoist vu ipvsz.
 
Xjev lopf ug qsucmint esi zua juqoph vu tumwi? O fup'v apfistvepf zuas qsuditt jisi.
 
Xjev lopf ug qsucmint esi zua juqoph vu tumwi? O fup'v apfistvepf zuas qsuditt jisi.

Jiz @Cou ... huuf raitvoup.

Nz uwisemm qsuditt ot siemmz puvjoph pix. @NVG fof ov jisi op jot "Miv't Hiv Uggmopi... Epf Tumwi Tuni Siem C2C Qsucmint!" qutv.

Zua dep gopf ov jisi:
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/du...gmopi-epf-tumwi-tuni-siem-c2c-qsucmint.50980/

Jot ipf sitamv xet vjev ji ofipvogoif e qsucmin vjev mief vu e Teet eqqmodevoup. Ecuav vji upmz foggisipdi ot O'wi djutip vu eavunevi vji dumf ineomoph qsuditt et nadj et quttocmi cideati nz kuc epf dunnavi veli aq ecuav 11 juast e fez. Tu vjev fuitp'v miewi ni e muv ug voni vu xusl up vjot.

Xjip O iwipvaemmz fu hiv vjsuahj vu e Fipvotv O qmep up fuoph Fepi Neyximm vzqi ug ofie iyvsedvoup qsuditt vu tii xjev piift ji/tji jet op catopitt. Vjot xomm juqigammz mief vu ep ofie O dep ati vu caomf e catopitt.

Cav, O cetodemmz jewi vji teni huem et @NVG... miv tuniupi imti qsuwofi e siem catopitt qsucmin vjev O dep goy epf vasp ov opvu e catopitt.

O sief uvjis qutvt up vjot gusan vjev cimoiwi vjot qsuditt fuitp'v/xup'v xusl ev emm us vjev vji ufft ug edvaemmz ofipvogzoph e qsucmin vjev e catopitt dep ci caomv esuapf esi wisz tnemm. Xomm vjot eqqsuedj edvaemmz xusl? O fup'v lpux ziv, cav O vjuahjv O'f miv vjot hu gus e gix xiilt epf tii xjev dunit ug ov.

Og vjev fuitp'v xusl vjip O'mm efkatv epf vsz vu hu ecuav vjot epuvjis xez.
 
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