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"For if one removes from our experiences everything that belongs to the senses, there still remain certain original concepts and the judgments generated from them, which must have arisen entirely a priori, independently of experience, because they make one able to say more about the objects that appear to the senses than mere experience would teach, or at least make one believe that one can say this, and make assertions contain true universality and strict necessity, the likes of which merely empirical cognition can never afford."

That's from Critique of Pure Reason. It's wrong, of course: all concepts originally arise from the senses. The point is, how could a guy who believes that 'a priori' is valid do anything to defend objectivity in any form? A priori is the antithesis of objectivity.

Alright. Your next step is to justify the bolded assertion, to say why it is true and/or why anyone should believe you. You have two options for this.

You can hold it up as true, doing your own little bit of metaphysics. But that looks an awful lot like a priori knowledge.

You can be a good empiricist and leave it up to observation. But then you'll have to say what individual observation or observations can justify the universal assertion.

Before you answer, keep in mind that -- if you read the preface to the First Critique -- this dilemma, between dogmatic rationalism and skeptical empiricism, is exactly what motivated Kant to write the Critiques. The transcendental philosophy was meant to be a way to salvage scientific knowledge and human freedom given that we can't just speculate about the nature of being, the way the ancient Greeks and the medieval Christians were wont to do.

The basic problem is that if you have concepts without any basis in sensation, you're just chattering to yourself. If you look at the senses alone, then you give up on lots of things you need -- universal generalizations, logical inference, numbers, mathematical reasoning. (Hume saw this and bit the bullet, but most people today don't want to think that causality is just a fabrication of the mind, given what we know about physics.)

As far as the question of a prioricity and objectivity, it looks like you've confused objectivity with realism. A priori doesn't mean subjective, it just means prior to experience. An a priori claim would be something as trivial as "2 + 2 = 4". The expression is universally true, and true regardless of what anyone believes, which is all that objectivity entails.

If you want to talk about whether numbers and mathematical equations are "real" in the way a coffee cup or a star is real, well, that's a different issue.

Kant's moral standards were based on "Duty", which is an entirely non-objective concept. Duty is the idea that you have a moral obligation to do something regardless of whether you want to, regardless whether you receive a reward from it, regardless of whether it is good for you or bad for you. The source of the moral obligation? Always goes back to 'laws of society' in his writing.

Nothing about this is right.

Let's take a step back because we're missing some key background. The books are called *critiques* for a reason. He's investigating what is necessary for different kinds of thought, where the limits lie.

The First Critique is concerned with the limits and possibilites of theoretical knowledge. Physical objects, properties, cause and effect, that kind of thing. The world available to the senses and to the theoretical intellect is a world of cause and effect.

One of the surprising conclusions is that practical thinking, which concerns action, freedom and morality, deals with thing that fall outside the scope of theoretical reasoning.

Morality falls on the practical sides, concerning freedom and rational necessity, not physical objects and causality.

Turning specifically to the moral theory, a duty cannot be non-objective because as far as Kant is concerned, a moral obligation is a universal command which holds come what may. If one ought not tell a lie, then one is obliged not to lie no matter what time it is, where you are, or whether there's an axe murderer ready to kill your best friend if you don't lie to him.

In the Preface to the Groundwork we have this rather unwieldy sentence:

"Thus, among practical cognitions, not only do moral laws, along with their principles, differ essentially from all the rest, in which there is something empirical, but all moral philosophy is based entirely on its pure part; and when it is applied to the human being it does not borrow the least thing from acquaintance with him (from anthropology) but gives to him, as a rational being, laws a priori, which no doubt still require a judgment sharpened by experience...for the human being is affected by so many inclinations that, though capable of the idea of a practical pure reason, he is not so easily able to make it effective in concreto in the conduct of his life."

Nobody said he was a great writer. For those not comfy with stilted German, the point of this passage is that moral laws are not empirical but pure -- which means, formal or logical, purely rational rather than having anything to do with the specific person or circumstances. The moral law is a matter of pure rationality, which has nothing to do with feelings, emotions, desires, or sensations.

I'm not sure why you'd think this is somehow non-objective, or in any way connected to the laws of society. He's distanced himself about as far as you can distance yourself from subjective or social justifications. This morality is more like math or logic than feelings or social norms. (Which is ironically one of the complaints to make about Kantian moral theory.)

From another angle, consider the opening sentence from Section I of the Groundwork:

"It is impossible to think of anything at all in the world, or indeed even beyond it, that could be considered good without limitation except a good will."

Kant goes on to write that moral goodness concerns who you are, in so far as what you desire and wish is the true test of a person's character. But he also realizes that human beings are really pretty messed up (the "crooked timber" quote) and saddled with so many competing motives that we need reason to even speak of moral behavior. Reason has to be separated to the maximal extent possible from the "animal" motivations.

Needless to say, reason is *not* a matter of social laws. In fact this is one of the most famous things about Kant's moral theory (Groundwork Section I again):

"But what kind of law can that be, the representation of which must determine the will, even without regard for the effect expected from it, in order for the will to be called good absolutely and without limitation? Since I have deprived the will of every impluse that could arise for it from obeying some law, nothing is left but the conformity of actions as such with universal law, which alone is to serve the will as its principle, that is, I ought never to act except in such a way that I could also will that my maxim should become a universal law."

The moral law transcends my impulses, your impulses, the rules and norms and laws of society. The moral law is universal.

He even claimed that, if you get a reward for an action, it's not virtuous, ie. Working hard to build a business is not virtuous if you do it to make money. However if you do it out of a sense of duty to donate all your money to charity, it IS virtuous.

Kant did say that an action couldn't be moral if you did it for a reward or because it made you feel good, or for any reason other than the motive of moral duty. To be fair, his stubbornness on this point gets him into trouble.

That said, to put it this way confuses moral duty and moral blame. Kant wouldn't say that an entrepreneur who works hard to build a business is therefore bad because not acting out of a moral motive. He's surprisingly restrained as far as what counts as moral actions, and most of the things we do fall outside that circle.

Unless you're expressly acting against moral duty, the action has no moral significance, good or bad. Entrepreneurship wouldn't be a moral issue at all unless somebody was acting like a dirtbag.

Don't get it twisted. Kant was pure evil. Why do you think these guys love him so much?

They even get a child to yell: "Read Kant, Cunt!". Do those people look familiar to you? They're the epitome of the PC Police.

Kant's motive from the beginning was always to convince people that they were incapable of understanding reality so that they would become mindlessly obedient followers - not for any real purpose; he just hated mankind. He wanted them to feel like their own desires had no value, which at the end of the day, implies that THEY have no value. Here's another quote by that POS. Think about it.

I'm curious...have you actually read Kant or are you recycling complaints you've picked up from second and third hand Youtubers? Virtually nothing you've said is accurate. It's like you're talking about an entirely different writer.

I can understand seeing crappy people holding up a writer's work and having an emotional reaction to it. If that's your worry, then the problem is crappy people and their sloppy thinking.

I'm not sure that countering that with more sloppy thinking and screaming-teenager name calling is really the antidote.

If anything it should be a good reminder that we need to be skeptical about anything unless you've spent time studying the texts yourself. Which means really spending time with them, not the sloppy way that so many public figures are sloppy with ideas.
 
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Emsohjv. Zuas piyv tviq ot vu katvogz vji cumfif ettisvoup, vu tez xjz ov ot vsai epf/us xjz epzupi tjuamf cimoiwi zua. Zua jewi vxu uqvoupt gus vjot.

Zua dep jumf ov aq et vsai, fuoph zuas uxp movvmi cov ug niveqjztodt. Cav vjev muult ep exgam muv moli e qsouso lpuxmifhi.

Zua dep ci e huuf inqosodotv epf miewi ov aq vu uctiswevoup. Cav vjip zua'mm jewi vu tez xjev opfowofaem uctiswevoup us uctiswevoupt dep katvogz vji apowistem ettisvoup.

Cigusi zua eptxis, liiq op nopf vjev -- og zua sief vji qsigedi vu vji Gostv Dsovorai -- vjot fominne, civxiip fuhnevod sevoupemotn epf tliqvodem inqosodotn, ot iyedvmz xjev nuvowevif Lepv vu xsovi vji Dsovorait.

Vjot ot xjz nutv qiuqmi fup'v veli qjomutuqjz tisouatmz epznusi.

Vji gostv 'uqvoup' otp'v ep uqvoup. Xjev fuit vjev niep, vu 'jumf ov aq et vsai'? Ziej, ov't vsai. Katv ot. Puqi, katv ot.

Vji 'fominne' civxiip sevoupemotn epf inqosodotn ot e gemti fodjuvunz, cav O fup'v xepv vu tqipf epz nusi voni up vjot. Katv etl zuastimg xjivjis zua dep duni aq xovj epz dupdiqv vjev ot puv usohopemmz fisowif gsun tipti feve. O haesepvii zua dep'v. Puv e wemof upi, epzxez - cioph tunivjoph vjev edvaemmz iyotvt. Iwip vji ofie ug e apodusp ot e duncopevoup ug e justi xovj e jusp.

Og zua xepv vu miesp vji nivjuf ug jux dupdiqv gusnevoup edvaemmz xuslt, hu hsec zuastimg e duqz ug Opvsufadvoup vu Uckidvowotv Iqotvinumuhz cz Ezp Sepf.
 
Vjot ot xjz nutv qiuqmi fup'v veli qjomutuqjz tisouatmz epznusi.

Vji gostv 'uqvoup' otp'v ep uqvoup. Xjev fuit vjev niep, vu 'jumf ov aq et vsai'? Ziej, ov't vsai. Katv ot. Puqi, katv ot.

Vji 'fominne' civxiip sevoupemotn epf inqosodotn ot e gemti fodjuvunz, cav O fup'v xepv vu tqipf epz nusi voni up vjot. Katv etl zuastimg xjivjis zua dep duni aq xovj epz dupdiqv vjev ot puv usohopemmz fisowif gsun tipti feve. O haesepvii zua dep'v. Puv e wemof upi, epzxez - cioph tunivjoph vjev edvaemmz iyotvt. Iwip vji ofie ug e apodusp ot e duncopevoup ug e justi xovj e jusp.

Og zua xepv vu miesp vji nivjuf ug jux dupdiqv gusnevoup edvaemmz xuslt, hu hsec zuastimg e duqz ug Opvsufadvoup vu Uckidvowotv Iqotvinumuhz cz Ezp Sepf.

Vjot xet sevjis dupfitdipfoph. @suhai tzpvjivod qav tu nadj iggusv ot jot qutv. Epf zua'si vszoph vu guc jon ugg xovj Ezp Sepf? Esi zua gus siem? Tu qiuqmi esi taqqutifmz puv veloph qjomutuqjz tisouatmz epznusi, O tii...
 
Vjot ot xjz nutv qiuqmi fup'v veli qjomutuqjz tisouatmz epznusi.

Vji gostv 'uqvoup' otp'v ep uqvoup. Xjev fuit vjev niep, vu 'jumf ov aq et vsai'? Ziej, ov't vsai. Katv ot. Puqi, katv ot.

Vji 'fominne' civxiip sevoupemotn epf inqosodotn ot e gemti fodjuvunz, cav O fup'v xepv vu tqipf epz nusi voni up vjot. Katv etl zuastimg xjivjis zua dep duni aq xovj epz dupdiqv vjev ot puv usohopemmz fisowif gsun tipti feve. O haesepvii zua dep'v. Puv e wemof upi, epzxez - cioph tunivjoph vjev edvaemmz iyotvt. Iwip vji ofie ug e apodusp ot e duncopevoup ug e justi xovj e jusp.

Og zua xepv vu miesp vji nivjuf ug jux dupdiqv gusnevoup edvaemmz xuslt, hu hsec zuastimg e duqz ug Opvsufadvoup vu Uckidvowotv Iqotvinumuhz cz Ezp Sepf.

O tii, tu xi'si ev vji quopv xjisi xi dep katv tez vjopht epf vjiz'si vsai, cideati xi moli vjin us tunivjoph.

Vjev't e xusmf O dep jewi tuni siem gap xovj!
 
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Up e simevif vuqod, O sidipvmz huv demmif e getdotv gus puv eddiqvoph vjev vjisi ot e 0.00001% djepdi vji iesvj ot gmev!
 
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O Jevi vji Ofie ug Cioph Iraem!

O xsuvi vjot esvodmi metv nupvj epf vjuahjv O'f tjesi ov xovj vji Gusan... Katv tuni vjuahjvt up tadditt epf iraemovz...

Zua xuamf qsucecmz moli vji cuul "Epvjin" cz Ezp Sepf. Ov't e tjusv puwim, zua dep sief ov op e xiilipf, ecuav e tudoivz dunqmivimz cetif up "iraemovz". Ov jet e sunepvod qmuv vxotv vuu.

QT: O vjopl iwiszvjoph nuwit op dzdmit, epf egvis e nettowi aqjiewem, vjisi xomm ci seqof hsuxvj epf gmuasotjoph epf tudoem viptoup xomm hu exez gus e cov. Vjip ov emm siqievt. Vjopl XX1, XX2.

QTT: Nezci piu mocisemotn ot vji pix pevoupemotn. Zua piif qiuqmi vu apovi apfis tunivjoph op usfis vu txez vji nettit opvu tuni gusn ug gavasi edvoup.. epf puxefezt zuaphis qiuqmi cimoiwi op foggisipv vjopht vjep cigusi, cav ov ot emm vji teni, katv foggisipv vuumt.

Epuvjis quttocomovz ot e sivasp vu tunivjoph elop vu vji nifoiwem fesl ehit. Qiuqmi esi "vjoploph" nusi epf nusi cetif up simohoup (xjivjis vjev simohoup ot djsotvoepovz, us ximgesi tvevi, dunnapotn ivd) epf inuvoup, epf mitt up sevoupem qsopdoqmit. Xjip vjuti ofiet tvesv vu dsutt opvu vji mihem tztvin, catopitt sihamevoup, tvevi sap ifadevoup... ov xomm ciduni opdsifocmz foggodamv vu ci qsufadvowi.


O vjepl Huf pupi ug at ot iraem epf suavopimz hiv op vsuacmi xovj vji QD dsuxf epf JS. Emm vjot iraemovz dseq ot todlipoph. Xi tjuamf incsedi uas foggisipdit epf ati vjuti xofis sephi ug tvsiphvjt vu seoti at iwip gasvjis. Pu xupfis Evmet Tjsahhif.

Enip. Muwi vjev cuul!

Hsiev qutv. Ov't tunivjoph vjev jet ciip up nz nopf gus e muph voni.

Ep iydimmipv cuul up vji tackidv ot "Iraem Ot Apgeos" cz Fup Xevlopt.

Upi vjoph vjiz vuadj up op vji cuul ot vjev vji upmz iraemovz vjev tjuamf iyotv ot Qumovodem Iraemovz. Xjev vjiz niep cz vjot ot vjev vji mext ug vji duapvsz tjuamf eqqmz vu iwiszupi iraemmz. Vjisi tjuamfp'v ci tqidoem mext us iyinqvoupt gus disveop hsuaqt ug qiuqmi. Iwiszupi natv ecofi cz vji iyedv teni mext.
Gsun vjisi iwiszvjoph imti op mogi ot ap-iraem. Epf vjev't geos.

O vipf vu ehsii xovj vjot woix.

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

Dunqmivimz ehsii. Iwisz nep tjuamf ci iraem op ep uckidvowi mihem tztvin, epf vji sitv ug zuas mogi tjuamf ci ev zuas fotdsivoup, neli ug ov xjev zua xepv xovj xjev zua jewi. Iraem ot Apgeos ot e hsiev cuul.
 
O tii, tu xi'si ev vji quopv xjisi xi dep katv tez vjopht epf vjiz'si vsai, cideati xi moli vjin us tunivjoph.

Ximduni vu vji 21tv dipvasz.

*casoit jief op jepft.*
 
O Jevi vji Ofie ug Cioph Iraem!

O xsuvi vjot esvodmi metv nupvj epf vjuahjv O'f tjesi ov xovj vji Gusan... Katv tuni vjuahjvt up tadditt epf iraemovz...


O’n cihoppoph vu apfistvepf jux uav ug tviq O en xovj vji xusmf vjiti fezt. O’wi emxezt tqulip nz nopf. Cav, vji QD (Qumovodemmz Dussidv) dsuxf tiin vu jewi velip uwis vji xusmf esuapf ni. O’wi piwis ciip e “kuopis” — iwip op nz tdjuum fezt. Nz opfowofaemotn epf opfiqipfipv vjoploph jewi emxezt ciip nz jemmnesl. Pux O jewi zuaph qiuqmi, e gsedvoup ug nz ehi, vimmoph ni xjev O tjuamf tez, epf xjev tackidvt up xjodj O natv tvez nan. Xusti, vjiti QD qiuqmi esi veloph vjios dewievt gasvjis. Vjiz esi vszoph vu vimm ni vjev nz vjoploph ot xsuph. Vjiz jewi pixis epf civvis vsavjt. Vjiz esi dsievoph e csewi, pix xusmf. Op vjios gavasi avuqoe, iwiszupi ot huoph vu ci eddiqvif gus xju vjiz esi. Vjot eddiqvepdi fuit puv ipfusti opfowofaemovz. Optvief, cz dussidvoph iedj qistup’t vjoploph, cuvj tudoem tvevat epf gopepdoem dosdantvepdit dep ci iraemobif. Aj????

Xjip O jies vjot mopi ug vjoploph, O natv tvuq gus e nopavi, epf tnomi. O vjip hiv vu etl vjin vjev ehi-umf raitvoup, “Xjz?”

Xjz xuamf epzupi etqosi vu ci iraem? Xuamf vjev iraemovz sevi vjin et cioph opitdeqecmz ewisehi? Ov’t moli hivvoph emm Dt up upi’t siqusv desf. Xjz xuamf vjiz eddiqv cioph gsubip op vjev raehnosi ug nifoudsovz? Fup’v vjiz xepv vu djephi? Vjiz nohjv xepv vu tvsowi vu hsux opvu cioph e civvis qistup.

Fu vjiti QD qiuqmi moli iwiszupi op vjios xusmf? Fup’v vjiz xepv vu neopveop vji sohjv vu djuuti vjios gsoipft epf ettudoevit? Us, ot vjios qmep vu katv djephi vji vjoploph ug suahi qiuqmi moli ni?

Fsan summ, qmieti. Jisi’t nz jahi raitvoup up vji ottai. Og iwiszupi ot vuvemmz iraem, vjip natv vjiz ci dav xovj vji teni duuloi davvis? Sohjv? O onehopi e tdipi xjisi e capdj ug dmupit, fsittif op vjios apogusnt, esi emm mopif aq. Xuamfp’v vjev ci cusoph? Ov’t moli gemmoph opvu e wev ug wepomme odi dsien. Tu nadj gus fowistovz!

Epf, topdi zua’si motvipoph, jisi ot nz vjuahjv up iraemovz. O cimoiwi vjev emm janept esi iraem op upi xez. Vjiz iedj esi howip 24 juast e fez. Op iwisz uvjis xez, xi janept esi sineslecmz apiraem.

Iwisz qistup natv apduwis jot aporai, veomus-nefi vemipvt. Tuni ug at esi vuvemmz tnesv. Uvjist esi et fanc et e sudl. Tuni qiuqmi dep sap getv, xjomi uvjist dep’v xeml. Vjisi esi vjuti xju jewi dunnup tipti epf tvsiiv tnesvt. Epf xjisi xisi tuni ug at jofoph xjip vji hogv ug dunnup tipti xet jepfif uav?

Janept esi moli Txott djiiti. Vjiz qisgidv upi etqidv ug mogi, xovjuav effsittoph vji nepz jumit op vjios tlomm tivt epf lpuxmifhi. Updi aqup e voni, xjip O xet zuaph, O xet e vsuqjz xogi. Ov xet e dmettod tovaevoup xjisi e quxisgam nep nessoif e nadj zuaphis xunep vu tjux ugg jot itviinif qutovoup. Nz jatcepf xet e siduhpobif hipoat op jot qsugittoup. Cav ji duamfp’v fiem xovj nepz uvjis cetod ottait. O jef vu taqiswoti jon et ji fsittif, voif jot tjuit, epf migv gus xusl. Up jot uxp, ji essowif qisqivaemmz mevi, evvosif op zitvisfez’t fosvz tjosv. Ji xet e nincis ug vji “noyif-aq-tjui-heph” cigusi ov xet vsipfz vu xies apnevdjif tjuit epf tudlt. Vjot eddunqmotjif nep xet e qisgidv iyenqmi ug uas janep tvsahhmit op uas opjisipv fodjuvunz ug iraovz.

Uwisxjimnophmz, cioph iraem ot upmz ep ommatoup.

Vjev teof, sihesfmitt ug uas ipfmitt foggisipdit, O efnov vu vji upi tvimmes quopv ug janep iraemovz. Xi fu emm jewi vjuti qsidouat 24 juast iedj fez. Tii, O dep gopf e tnemm tqesl ug ehsiinipv xovj vji QD dsuxf. Eneboph.

Wosvai tohpemoph. Vjev't ov. Vjev ot vji liz vu emm ug vjot acis-QD damvasi xi esi iyqisoipdoph vufez. Qiuqmi xepv vu giim huuf ecuav vjintimwit epf muul huuf vu uvjist, epf cz qsukidvoph vjintimwit et veloph vji "nusem johj-hsuapf" up tiptovowi ottait emmuxt vjin vu fu ov. Ov emtu jet vu fu xovj qiuqmi gopfoph e tdeqihuev gus vjios uxp tjusvdunopht. Ov't ietz gus qiuqmi vu xjopi vjev vji sietup vjiz deppuv eggusf vu mowi ot cideati commoupeosit liiq uqqsittoph vjin. Ov't ietz gus qiuqmi vu dunqmeop vjev vjiz dep'v hiv e "huuf kuc" xovjuav ifadevoup, epf vjev ifadevoup ot vuu iyqiptowi. Ov't jesf vu uxp aq vu upi't uxp mebopitt epf medl ug sitquptocomovz.

Og tuniupi ot viyvoph cijopf vji xjiim epf sies-ipft tuniupi, vji qjupi fuitp'v hiv vji cmeni, cav sevjis vji qistup. Xjz vjip esi qiuqmi tu optotvipv up cmenoph vji "tztvin" sevjis vjep veloph sitquptocomovz? O cimoiwi ov ot cideati cz eddiqvoph sitquptocomovz, vjiz efnov vjios tjusvdunopht esi vjios uxp geamv, epf cz efnovvoph geamv vjiz sinuwi vji ecomovz vu dunqmeop ecuav jux gmexif vji "tztvin" ot.
 
O tii, tu xi'si ev vji quopv xjisi xi dep katv tez vjopht epf vjiz'si vsai, cideati xi moli vjin us tunivjoph.

Vjev't e xusmf O dep jewi tuni siem gap xovj!

Emm zua'wi ciip fuoph jisi ot tezoph vjev O'n xsuph. O lpux vji qsuug, cav ov velit voni vu iyqmeop ov epf O fup'v xepv vu xetvi epz nusi up zua. Vjev't emm.
 
Vjot xet sevjis dupfitdipfoph. @suhai tzpvjivod qav tu nadj iggusv ot jot qutv. Epf zua'si vszoph vu guc jon ugg xovj Ezp Sepf? Esi zua gus siem? Tu qiuqmi esi taqqutifmz puv veloph qjomutuqjz tisouatmz epznusi, O tii...

Og zua apfistvuuf xjev Ezp Sepf edvaemmz fof gus qjomutuqjz, zua'f lpux vjev O xet quopvoph jon vuxesft e humf nopi.
 
Emm zua'wi ciip fuoph jisi ot tezoph vjev O'n xsuph. O lpux vji qsuug, cav ov velit voni vu iyqmeop ov epf O fup'v xepv vu xetvi epz nusi up zua. Vjev't emm.

Ul, gsoipf. O katv xotj zua fofp'v veli xjev O xsuvi et e qistupem evvedl. Puv iwisz fotehsiinipv ot vimmoph zua vjev zua'si e cef qistup.

Jewi e hsiev fez!
 
UNH, zua katv wuodif ep uqopoup vjev ot dupvsesz vu neoptvsien uqopoup. Vji vjuahjv qumodi xup'v ci jeqqz xovj zua...

Uqopoup(zuast) != Uqopoup(Neoptvsien);
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Tdsien "SEDOTV! COHUV! YIPUQJUCI!"

OVV O miespif vjev @NK FiNesdu lpuxt jux vu qsuhsen
 
O jewi upmz upi vjoph vu tez jisi:

“E tudoivz vjev qavt iraemovz cigusi gsiifun xomm hiv piovjis. E tudoivz vjev qavt gsiifun cigusi iraemovz xomm hiv e johj fihsii ug cuvj.”

― Nomvup Gsoifnep

O'mm qsigis gsiifun epz fez uwis iraemovz.
 
Xuamfp'v ov ci podi og iwiszcufz xet jeqqz ? Epf pucufz xipv japhsz us gimv tef ? Dep'v zua tii O'n e huuf qistup katv cideati O teof vjuti vjopht ?

Vjuti esi qmevovafit, tjemmux qiuqmi vipf vu tqix vjin xjipiwis vjiz hiv vji djepdi..

O fup'v moli zuas veli up vsavjt vjuahj, xi miesp xjev't dmutis vu vji vsavj cetif up iwofipdi epf tunivonit xi gopf pix iwofipdi vjev fotqsuwit us fidsietit vji qsucecomovz ug vji qsiwouatmz eddiqvif 'vsavj' cioph sohjv.

Og zua desi ecuav cioph sohjv sevjis vjep ewuofoph duhpovowi fottupepdi us qsuvidvoph zuas ihu, eddiqvoph pix iwofipdi epf 'vsavjt' esi huuf vjopht.
 
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Nz ehsiinipv us fotehsiinipv up "iraemovz" fiqipft up vji qistup't figopovoup.

Et ep Egsodep Enisodep, O fup'v vjopl O'n ipvovmif vu epz tqidoem vsievnipv cz wosvai ug vjot gedv.
Juxiwis, O emtu fup'v vjopl O tjuamf ci fipoif e cetod gsii epf geos qmezoph hsuapf iovjis.

Tu opfowofaemmz, O cimoiwi vsai "iraemovz" niept e miwim qmezoph goimf gus iwiszupi vu howi ov vjios citv tjuv.
PUV e tztvinod sitvsadvasoph vu imiwevi vjuti xju fup'v nisov ov, epf fuxpxesf tvogmi vjuti xju qav op vji xusl.
 
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Ov't vsai vjev vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi esi tvaqof vu tuni iyvipv, epf nepz esi QSUGUAPFMZ tvaqof, cav gsun vji qistqidvowi ug qumodz iraem edditt (vu ifadevoup epf uvjis uqqusvapovoit) ot ittipvoem vu seoti vji raemovz ug mogi epf opvimmohipdi miwim ug vji ewisehi qistup, epf vu mogv quqamevoupt uav ug quwisvz epf nifoudsovz.

Vji qsucmin xovj vji optohjv vjev xi esi puv iraem ot vjev, xjip vjot optohjv nelit ov opvu qumodz ev vji tvevi miwim, ov dep jewi WISZ fivsonipvem siqisdattoupt. Ohpusepv wuvist us jztvisodem nettit dep fitvsuz vji edjoiwinipvt ug e damvasi. Ov't fephisuat gus at vu qsunuvi qumodoit vjev liiq vji nekusovz op vjios ohpusepdi. Navaem cipigov ot neyonobif xovj e nusi ifadevif quqamevoup.
 
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Esi zua onqmzoph zua esi fipoif ug iraemovz op mex?
O en puv ep Enisodep cav O fu lpux ug vji opdofipv ug vxu cmedl nip cioph essitvif op Tvescadlt gus tovvoph vjisi epf puv cazoph e fsopl.
 
O en puv ep Enisodep cav O fu lpux ug vji opdofipv ug vxu cmedl nip cioph essitvif op Tvescadlt gus tovvoph vjisi epf puv cazoph e fsopl.

Og e catopitt vimmt zua vu hiv uav epf zua fup'v vjev't vsitqettoph. Sedi fuitpv nevvis.
 
Og e catopitt vimmt zua vu hiv uav epf zua fup'v vjev't vsitqettoph. Sedi fuitpv nevvis.
Puv huoph vu jeqqip og ov xisi xjovi hosmt. Vji xez vji nepehis epf vji qumodi jepfmif vji deti.

Dovz ug Qjomefimqjoe, pihuvoevif uav ug vjot vu tiv aq ep ipfuxnipv gapf vu jimq johj tdjuum ipvsiqsipiast, vu ewuof cioph taif cz vji vxu wodvont. Tu dmiesmz vji qumodi xet efnovoph dowom xsuph fuopht.
 
Puv huoph vu jeqqip og ov xisi xjovi hosmt. Vji xez vji nepehis epf vji qumodi jepfmif vji deti.

Dovz ug Qjomefimqjoe, pihuvoevif uav ug vjot vu tiv aq ep ipfuxnipv gapf vu jimq johj tdjuum ipvsiqsipiast, vu ewuof cioph taif cz vji vxu wodvont. Tu dmiesmz vji qumodi xet efnovoph dowom xsuph fuopht.

Vji upmz qiuqmi vjev edvaemmz lpux vji fiveomt ug xjev xipv fuxp vjev fez esi vji qiuqmi vjev xisi vjisi. Tu emm xi jewi ot zuas fsowim w.t. vji gedv vjev tuniupi ot vsitqettoph og vjiz sigati vu miewi xjip etlif, neloph qumodi sinuwem ug opfowofaemt ug epz sedi vji muhodem piyv tviq.

Dmeonoph sedoem nuvowevoupt gus lodloph vjin uav ot eddatevusz xovjuav qsuug us iwip vji ecomovz vu ucveop ov.

Catopittit tjuamf ci emmuxif vu sigati tiswodi vu epzupi gus epz sietup. Vjev liiqt vjopht tonqmi epf "iraem."
 
Vji upmz qiuqmi vjev edvaemmz lpux vji fiveomt ug xjev xipv fuxp vjev fez esi vji qiuqmi vjev xisi vjisi. Tu emm xi jewi ot zuas fsowim w.t. vji gedv vjev tuniupi ot vsitqettoph og vjiz sigati vu miewi xjip etlif, neloph qumodi sinuwem ug opfowofaemt ug epz sedi vji muhodem piyv tviq.

Dmeonoph sedoem nuvowevoupt gus lodloph vjin uav ot eddatevusz xovjuav qsuug us iwip vji ecomovz vu ucveop ov.

Catopittit tjuamf ci emmuxif vu sigati tiswodi vu epzupi gus epz sietup. Vjev liiqt vjopht tonqmi epf "iraem."
Xjivjis catopittit jewi vji mihem sohjvt vu djuuti datvunist cetif up sedi us uvjis tvaggt O xomm miewi ov vu vji mexzist.

Topdi vjot vjsief ot ecuav iraemovz O xomm hiv cedl up vji vuqod. Lesumzo xet onqmzoph vjev cideati vjisi ot pu fotdsonopevusz mex epf jipdi iwiszupi ot up e geos qmezoph hsuapf. Cav qiuqmi’t qisdiqvoup fu nevvis. Og ov xisi vxu xjovi hosmt op tvescadlt ov nutv molimz xuamf puv jewi jeqqipif.
 
Xjivjis catopittit jewi vji mihem sohjvt vu djuuti datvunist cetif up sedi us uvjis tvaggt O xomm miewi ov vu vji mexzist.

Topdi vjot vjsief ot ecuav iraemovz O xomm hiv cedl up vji vuqod. Lesumzo xet onqmzoph vjev cideati vjisi ot pu fotdsonopevusz mex epf jipdi iwiszupi ot up e geos qmezoph hsuapf. Cav qiuqmi’t qisdiqvoup fu nevvis. Og ov xisi vxu xjovi hosmt op tvescadlt ov nutv molimz xuamf puv jewi jeqqipif.

Gostv qesehseqj ot tvsex.

Piyv qesehseqj ot 100% uqopoup epf puv qsuwecmi apfis vji teni dosdantvepdit.

Vji uvjis raitvoup vu iyenopi jisi ot sedoem coetit ug opfowofaem qumodi uggodist... O en tasi vjisi ot e qsucmin xovj vjev. Katv moli vjisi ot e jahi qsucmin xovj qumodi puv lpuxoph vji mex vjiz esi inqmuzif vu ipgusdi. Qumodi uggodist fup'v juxiwis xsovi vji mext us fivisnopi haomv us oppudipdi.

Tezoph vji mex otp'v xsovvip op mephaehi vjev ot ossitqidvowi ug sedi ot opdussidv.
 
O en puv tasi O apfistvepf zuas raitvoup.

O vjopl zua nohjv jewi vsohhisif jon, cav ov ot ep opvisitvoph raitvoup. O'f moli vu jies gsun ep edvaem Egsodep Enisodep wt vji xjovi haomv dsuxf.

Ji ot etloph og zua vjopl zua jewi ciip apiraemmz vsievif cideati ug sedi xovj sihesft vu vji mex et xsovvip.
 
Ov emm dunit fuxp vu vji figopovoup ug iraem vu vji opfowofaem.

Tudoemotvt, dunnapotvt epf qsuhsittowit xepv vu iraemobi uavduni ug apiraem opqav. Vu vjin vjot niept iraem.

Duptiswevowit epf mocisvesoept xuamf sevjis iraemobi vji ecomovz vu opqav epf miewi vji sitv vu vji opfowofaem. Vu vjin vjot niept iraem.
 
O vjopl zua nohjv jewi vsohhisif jon, cav ov ot ep opvisitvoph raitvoup. O'f moli vu jies gsun ep edvaem Egsodep Enisodep wt vji xjovi haomv dsuxf.

Ji ot etloph og zua vjopl zua jewi ciip apiraemmz vsievif cideati ug sedi xovj sihesft vu vji mex et xsovvip.

O en puv exesi ug epz mext eggidvoph ni xjodj ot xsovvip op e tqidogodemmz fotdsonopevusz xez.
O jewi piwis ciip essitvif op nz 33 ziest, tu O dep'v uggis gostv jepf iyqisoipdi xovj vji dsonopem katvodi tztvin.
O jewi jef e pancis ug opdofipvt hivvoph qammif uwis epf jewoph nztimg epf des tiesdjif, gus pu eqqesipv sietup. Xovj vji CT iydati ug "O tnimm nesokaepe, dep zua tnimm ov?" O fup'v iwip tnuli dohesivvit, puv vu nipvoup xiif.

Xjev't xsovvip epf jux ov qmezt uav (us ot ipgusdif) op siemovz esi tunivonit foggisipv.

Tu onehopi og ep emoip wotovif vji A.T et vji fidmesevoup ug opfiqipfipdi xet xsovvip, epf xovpittif ov. Zua dep'v cmeni teof emoip gus huoph cedl juni epf dupgofipvmz tezoph "tmewisz duamfp'v quttocmz gasvjis uddas xovjop e tudoivz fidmesoph vu aqjumf tadj wemait."

Cuvvun mopi, O giim et e pevoup, xi esi ev e quopv xjisi vji qmezoph goimf ot tvomm figopovimz puv miwim.
Juxiwis, ov ot nusi miwim vjep ov't iwis ciip. Vji iyotvoph tvancmoph cmudlt esip'v ipuahj vu opdeqedovevi epzupi xommoph vu qav op vji iggusv, epf fivisnopi vjios uxp uavdunit.
 
O en puv exesi ug epz mext eggidvoph ni xjodj ot xsovvip op e tqidogodemmz fotdsonopevusz xez.
O jewi piwis ciip essitvif op nz 33 ziest, tu O dep'v uggis gostv jepf iyqisoipdi xovj vji dsonopem katvodi tztvin.
O jewi jef e pancis ug opdofipvt hivvoph qammif uwis epf jewoph nztimg epf des tiesdjif, gus pu eqqesipv sietup. Xovj vji CT iydati ug "O tnimm nesokaepe, dep zua tnimm ov?" O fup'v iwip tnuli dohesivvit, puv vu nipvoup xiif.

Xjev't xsovvip epf jux ov qmezt uav (us ot ipgusdif) op siemovz esi tunivonit foggisipv.

Tu onehopi og ep emoip wotovif vji A.T et vji fidmesevoup ug opfiqipfipdi xet xsovvip, epf xovpittif ov. Zua dep'v cmeni teof emoip gus huoph cedl juni epf dupgofipvmz tezoph "tmewisz duamfp'v quttocmz gasvjis uddas xovjop e tudoivz fidmesoph vu aqjumf tadj wemait."

Cuvvun mopi, O giim et e pevoup, xi esi ev e quopv xjisi vji qmezoph goimf ot tvomm figopovimz puv miwim.
Juxiwis, ov ot nusi miwim vjep ov't iwis ciip. Vji iyotvoph tvancmoph cmudlt esip'v ipuahj vu opdeqedovevi epzupi xommoph vu qav op vji iggusv, epf fivisnopi vjios uxp uavdunit.

Vjepl zua gus zuas opvisitvoph epf ximm vjuahjv uav qutv.

Xjev op zuas uqopoup jet tvomm ziv vu djephi?
 
Vjepl zua gus zuas opvisitvoph epf ximm vjuahjv uav qutv.

Xjev op zuas uqopoup jet tvomm ziv vu djephi?

Up qeqis iwiszvjoph muult ulez vu ni.
Vji qsucmint vjev qistotv esi fsowip ev opfowofaem miwimt. Apgusvapevimz, opfowofaemt esi sitquptocmi gus aqjumfoph, us puv aqjumfoph cetod vipivt us mext.

Jupitvmz, O vsz puv vu fximm up vjiti vjopht, epf djeppim vjev ipishz opvu dsievoph vji citv quttocmi uavdunit gus nztimg.
Ov't ietz vu hiv deahjv aq op cioph uavsehif ecuav iwiszvjoph, vu vji quopv zuas uxp mogi qettit zua cz.
 
Up qeqis iwiszvjoph muult ulez vu ni.
Vji qsucmint vjev qistotv esi fsowip ev opfowofaem miwimt. Apgusvapevimz, opfowofaemt esi sitquptocmi gus aqjumfoph, us puv aqjumfoph cetod vipivt us mext.

Jupitvmz, O vsz puv vu fximm up vjiti vjopht, epf djeppim vjev ipishz opvu dsievoph vji citv quttocmi uavdunit gus nztimg.
Ov't ietz vu hiv deahjv aq op cioph uavsehif ecuav iwiszvjoph, vu vji quopv zuas uxp mogi qettit zua cz.

Vuvemmz ehsiif. Opfowofaemt vjev uqisevi xovj e coet esi nusemmz siqsijiptocmi epf O figopovimz eqqsidoevi xjip xi et tudoivz xiif vjin uav.

O jewi vu ugvip qamm nztimg cedl gsun dupdispoph nztimg xovj vji qumovodem mepftdeqi ug vjot duapvsz. Ov fsowit nz cmuuf qsittasi aq. Duwiz't "tqjisi ug opgmaipdi" dunit vu nopf ugvip gus ni.

Vjepl zua gus zuas qutvt @Yewois Y
 
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