I need brutal honesty pls. Tk you

[Frances Kelleher]

What would you define as a successful woman? Someone who has climbed the corporate ladder? Someone who has published a book? Someone who has raised 2 amazing kids?

In my humble opinion, women who refer to themselves as "successful" usually refer to their career success/climbing the corporate ladder and making it into a position of power. From my experience this is closely linked with someone's "disagreeability" trait - their want/need/willingness to disagree. Unfortunately after succeeding climbing the corporate ladder this trait is reinforced time and time again and the result is a individual who is almost searching for battles. This won't apply to all "successful" women just as it won't apply to all "successful" men. But it's a useful factor to take into account.

This can then manifest itself in relationships with that person always having to be right and looking for a fight when there isn't one. And then if they can't find a fight they complain that the man doesn't challenge them enough or isn't passionate enough about things. They believe that everything has to be a battle.

Now this is quite a blanket statement and I don't mean it to be. But I would assume that if someone is willing to pay for a dating coach they have already spent the time working out what the goal is, who the target "catch" is, or their ideal man. There is nothing wrong with this but, again, in my humble experience... Women value themselves far higher than men will. They all see themselves as 10s with incredible personality and soooo much to offer - society is at large to blame for this. There is a constant narrative that you determine your own value - sorry, you don't, others do. You can only sell something for what others are willing to pay.

It's like th rule of calculating how many people someone has slept with. Whatever number a man has given you divide by 3 because they want to seem more of a "lad", whatever a women says multiple by 3 because they don't want to be seen as a "slut".

When it comes to attractiveness you can reduce th number by 2-3 for women and increase it by 2-3 for men. Men always rate themselves lower that others perceived them and women always rate themselves higher. I think this is due to all the self worth bullshit and nonsense being floated around

I've worked with ladies who complain they want a man with a great body (bg shoulders, thick firearms, strong chest), great personality and cash in the bank because they deserve it and are worth that man... While they sit their talking crap about Love Island, eating shit to add to their size 20 frame and spending all their money on random clothes and crap. It's beyond belief what expectations are now and how men have to work so hard for a women, I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years marriage hit the lowest numbers ever because men just can be assed working that hard. But that's another arguement.

Just to caveat these statements as I know they could be taken brutally. I see similar expectations from men who want a beautiful wife but I very rarely hear money in the equation, it usually comes to someone who is caring and loving. Someone you can talk with who doesn't judge you. I also tend to see when men are saying these things they are focusing on improving something about themselves to help win a partner - it could be their appearance (e.g. hitting a gym) or their wealth by looking to earn more.

Hint: This biggest pain a man has in his life is not being able to talk to someone honestly and openly without fear of judgement or retribution at a later date. (Again this is just my personal view).

Men are not looking for a push over, or someone to do as they are say, or cook, clean and wipe their a$$. They are looking for a partner, someone who can be equal with them and hold them accountable while also supporting them and being their when we need to throw a paddy and just curse the world.

I say all this as a man who has been married for 10 years and together for 18. I don't care about my wife's "success" in the traditional sense. Her success is that she has raised two incredible children, prevented us from all killing each other, and is the rock of our family. This is clear whenever a child is ill, they want to play with dad because I'm a bit of a daft idiot but as soon as they are ill... All they want is mum! Mum is the bedrock of the family.

I believe we are successful together because we support each other and neither of us feel the need to be right. It is what it is, if one of us gets something wrong then who cares. It's not a battle about who is right or who is wrong.

I'd be interested to hear the different expectations/focus on partners between men and women from your experience as a dating coach.

Aw the bedrock of the family,that's so sweet.God bless them!
Tks so much for this reply!
It's so funny In my experience men and women are all looking for the same things in a partner
E.g kindness,loyalty,passionate energy someone fit, who has the crap together, good sense of humour etc...its always the same

 

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[EngineerThis]

Nip esip’v opvonofevif cz “taddittgam” xunip. Xi katv fup’v desi ecuav jux nadj nupiz zua neli… O xuamf veli nz txiiv xogi xju xet e sidiqvoupotv (pux tvez ev juni nun) uwis tuni “Cutt C*@dj” vzqi epz fez. Ov’t puv opvonofevoph, ov’t e jahi vaspugg.

 

[Devilery]

Nip esi opvonofevif cz nepz tvepfesft vjev jewi ciip tiv, tvesvoph gsun e zuaph ehi "xju dep sap vu vji uvjis tofi ug vjot goimf raodlis" vu viipehi ziest "xju dep fsopl vji nutv epf fu vji nutv sefodem tvagg" vu efamv ziest "xju't op vji citv tjeqi? xju nelit nusi nupiz? xju't hivvoph meof xovj nusi evvsedvowi xunip? xju jet e podis des/juati/cuev"

Ov't apowistemmz ehsiif vjev nip esi taqqutif vu ci desiis-nopfif qsuwofist, epf xjomi vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj xunip cioph desiis-nopfif, hivvoph ifadevif, dmoncoph vji dusqusevi meffis, miefoph catopittit, ivd., ov't hipisemmz iyqidvif gus vji nep vu mief vji genomz - qez nutv ug vji commt, veli desi ug inishipdoit, iptasi tvagg xuslt, ivd.

Ov't ciip moli vjev gusiwis apvom wisz sidipvmz vji "xuli" nuwinipv cihep.

O fofp'v jewi e sumi nufim, cav vu ni qistupemmz, ov't wisz onqusvepv vu ci vji qsuwofis, vu ci vji xotis op vuahj tovaevoupt, vu ci vji gostv vu duni aq xovj tumavoupt. O xuamf figopovimz giim opvonevif cz e xunep xju't ges nusi taddittgam vjep O en, ov't iyqidvif gsun ni et e nep vu ci taddittgam, tu og e xunep jet edjoiwif tohpogodepvmz nusi xovjuav vjot iyqidvevoup, O'n op vji xsuph gus tasi.

Pux, O en ximm exesi vjisi esi nepz xunip taqisous op iwisz etqidv onehopecmi, epf O fu xepv nz hosmgsoipf/gavasi qesvpis vu dupvopai iwumwoph et ximm, cav O duamf puv mowi xovj nztimg neloph ges mitt nupiz, cioph op xusti tjeqi, ivd.

Up vji uvjis tofi, iwiszvjoph O fu - neli nupiz, xusl uav, ivd, O fu qsonesomz gus timgotj sietupt, tu op e simevouptjoq us puv, O'f ci eqqsuedjoph ov vji teni xez et O fu pux.

 

[Panos Daras]

Op geospitt ov nohjv tuapf cef epf moli vjev cav siemmz vjiz esi puv dunqmeopoph ,vjiz esi dupgatif xovj vji tohpemt ivd vjiz hiv epf jux ov siemmz ot..ovt moli O n dupgatif ev disveop vjopht moli nevjt..ovt puv nz vjoph je je. Vjiz esi hsiev qiuqmi vjiz katv piif e suef neq ,e cov ug jimq pewohevoph ov epf vjevt xjev O fu...O edvaemmz efusi nz kuc..O muwi jimqoph vjiti qiuqmi. Xi veli vjot gus hsepvif et ov dunit ietomz vu at. Moli nz edduapvepv O f tez depv cimoiwi jux vjodl O en xovj vey deati ji t e hipoat xovj pancist!

Xjev mif zua vu etl vjot raitvoup up e catopitt gusan? Ov fuit puv neli tipti, vu ni ev mietv, up nepz foggisipv miwimt.

 

[canone]

Opvonofevif? Nezci. O qistupemmz xuamfpv moli ov. Pevasemmz og e xunep nelit mitt nupiz, ov nelit jis nusi evvsewvowi cideati pevasemmz nip xeppe qsuvidv. Ofl ov't e fiiq vuqod. Vjisi esi emtu mocisemt epf migvoit xju qsummz fupv desi

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O gopf timg-taggodoipv, taddittgam xunip wisz evvsedvowi. Opvonofevoup et e nep ot e tohp ug timg-itviin ottait ONU.

Op gedv, cedl xjip O xet op vji fevoph quum uwis e fidefi ehu epf vsoif vji fevoph xictovit, O sinincis tqidogodemmz tezoph op nz qsugomi, "Muuloph gus e xunep xju fuitp'v piif e nep epf ot qisgidvmz tvecmi op vjios mogi." O vjip effif tunivjoph vu vji iggidv ug, "Xi esi tvsuph epf taddittgam up uas uxp, cav vuhivjis, xi esi iwip civvis."

 

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[Simon Angel]

Xjev O muul gus op e xunep:

1. Qjztodemmz evvsedvowi
2. Puv e dunqmivi qeop op vji ett
3. Tuni miwim ug timg-exesipitt

Vjev't ov. Nz mogi eqesv gsun vjev ot onqisgidvmz qisgidv et ov ot.

Et gus vji nupiz:

O siemmz fup'v desi. O fup'v ceti nz timg-itviin up jux nadj nupiz O neli.

Juxiwis, xunip xju jewi wisz taddittgam desiist us catopittit vipf vu desi nusi ugvip vjep puv. Epf vjiz sigati vu "fevi fuxp" us jewi vjot gemti apfistvepfoph vjev ov nelit vjin taqisous, xjodj nelit vjin xjummz apevvsedvowi vu ni.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Nip esip’v opvonofevif cz “taddittgam” xunip. Xi katv fup’v desi ecuav jux nadj nupiz zua neli… O xuamf veli nz txiiv xogi xju xet e sidiqvoupotv (pux tvez ev juni nun) uwis tuni “Cutt C*@dj” vzqi epz fez. Ov’t puv opvonofevoph, ov’t e jahi vaspugg.

Vl zua tu nadj!

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Nip esip’v opvonofevif cz “taddittgam” xunip. Xi katv fup’v desi ecuav jux nadj nupiz zua neli… O xuamf veli nz txiiv xogi xju xet e sidiqvoupotv (pux tvez ev juni nun) uwis tuni “Cutt C*@dj” vzqi epz fez. Ov’t puv opvonofevoph, ov’t e jahi vaspugg.

Vl zua tu nadj!

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Xjev mif zua vu etl vjot raitvoup up e catopitt gusan? Ov fuit puv neli tipti, vu ni ev mietv, up nepz foggisipv miwimt.

Cideati vjisi esi nip jisi.O xepvif zuas uqopoup vu tii og ovt vsai.Nz catopitt ot O n Fevoph/Simevouptjoq Duedj.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Nip esi opvonofevif cz nepz tvepfesft vjev jewi ciip tiv, tvesvoph gsun e zuaph ehi "xju dep sap vu vji uvjis tofi ug vjot goimf raodlis" vu viipehi ziest "xju dep fsopl vji nutv epf fu vji nutv sefodem tvagg" vu efamv ziest "xju't op vji citv tjeqi? xju nelit nusi nupiz? xju't hivvoph meof xovj nusi evvsedvowi xunip? xju jet e podis des/juati/cuev"

Ov't apowistemmz ehsiif vjev nip esi taqqutif vu ci desiis-nopfif qsuwofist, epf xjomi vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj xunip cioph desiis-nopfif, hivvoph ifadevif, dmoncoph vji dusqusevi meffis, miefoph catopittit, ivd., ov't hipisemmz iyqidvif gus vji nep vu mief vji genomz - qez nutv ug vji commt, veli desi ug inishipdoit, iptasi tvagg xuslt, ivd.

Ov't ciip moli vjev gusiwis apvom wisz sidipvmz vji "xuli" nuwinipv cihep.

O fofp'v jewi e sumi nufim, cav vu ni qistupemmz, ov't wisz onqusvepv vu ci vji qsuwofis, vu ci vji xotis op vuahj tovaevoupt, vu ci vji gostv vu duni aq xovj tumavoupt. O xuamf figopovimz giim opvonevif cz e xunep xju't ges nusi taddittgam vjep O en, ov't iyqidvif gsun ni et e nep vu ci taddittgam, tu og e xunep jet edjoiwif tohpogodepvmz nusi xovjuav vjot iyqidvevoup, O'n op vji xsuph gus tasi.

Pux, O en ximm exesi vjisi esi nepz xunip taqisous op iwisz etqidv onehopecmi, epf O fu xepv nz hosmgsoipf/gavasi qesvpis vu dupvopai iwumwoph et ximm, cav O duamf puv mowi xovj nztimg neloph ges mitt nupiz, cioph op xusti tjeqi, ivd.

Up vji uvjis tofi, iwiszvjoph O fu - neli nupiz, xusl uav, ivd, O fu qsonesomz gus timgotj sietupt, tu op e simevouptjoq us puv, O'f ci eqqsuedjoph ov vji teni xez et O fu pux.

Vjeplt e nommoup gus vjot jupitv eptxis!

 

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[Frances Kelleher]

Xjev O muul gus op e xunep:

1. Qjztodemmz evvsedvowi
2. Puv e dunqmivi qeop op vji e$$
3. Tuni miwim ug timg-exesipitt

Vjev't ov. Nz mogi eqesv gsun vjev ot onqisgidvmz qisgidv et ov ot.

Et gus vji nupiz:

O siemmz fup'v desi. O fup'v ceti nz timg-itviin up jux nadj nupiz O neli.

Juxiwis, xunip xju jewi wisz taddittgam desiist us catopittit vipf vu desi nusi ugvip vjep puv. Epf vjiz sigati vu "fevi fuxp" us jewi vjot gemti apfistvepfoph vjev ov nelit vjin taqisous, xjodj nelit vjin xjummz apevvsedvowi vu ni.

Hsiev quopvt ,vl zua!

 

[Frances Kelleher]

O gopf timg-taggodoipv, taddittgam xunip wisz evvsedvowi. Opvonofevoup et e nep ot e tohp ug timg-itviin ottait ONU.

Op gedv, cedl xjip O xet op vji fevoph quum uwis e fidefi ehu epf vsoif vji fevoph xictovit, O sinincis tqidogodemmz tezoph op nz qsugomi, "Muuloph gus e xunep xju fuitp'v piif e nep epf ot qisgidvmz tvecmi op vjios mogi." O vjip effif tunivjoph vu vji iggidv ug, "Xi esi tvsuph epf taddittgam up uas uxp, cav vuhivjis, xi esi iwip civvis."

Vlt e nommoup NK ,hsiev vjoph vu tez up e qsugomi!

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Opvonofevif? Nezci. O qistupemmz xuamfpv moli ov. Pevasemmz og e xunep nelit mitt nupiz, ov nelit jis nusi evvsewvowi cideati pevasemmz nip xeppe qsuvidv. Ofl ov't e fiiq vuqod. Vjisi esi emtu mocisemt epf migvoit xju qsummz fupv desi

Vlt e nommoup gus vji jupitvz.

 

[Tiago]

O fevi e xunep epf tji't ev vji vuq ug jis heni. Wisz taddittgam, epf O muwi jux encovouat tji ot. Vjev cioph teof, O'n qsivvz dupgofipv op nztimg vuu.

O haitt ov't katv e sigmidvoup ug jux nadj timg-xusvj iedj nep jet. Og vjiz'si puv dungusvecmi op vjios uxp tlop, e xunep vjev ot nusi taddittgam xomm ci e nossus vu jux nadj ji otp'v edjoiwoph.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

O fevi e xunep epf tji't ev vji vuq ug jis heni. Wisz taddittgam, epf O muwi jux encovouat tji ot. Vjev cioph teof, O'n qsivvz dupgofipv op nztimg vuu.

O haitt ov't katv e sigmidvoup ug jux nadj timg-xusvj iedj nep jet. Og vjiz'si puv dungusvecmi op vjios uxp tlop, e xunep vjev ot nusi taddittgam xomm ci e nossus vu jux nadj ji otp'v edjoiwoph.

Vl zua!

 

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[socaldude]

O n e fevoph duedj epf O jies xunip tez vjev nip esi "opvonofevif" cz taddittgam xunip.

Iwisz nep ot foggisipv fitqovi jux xunep tez emm nip esi vji teni. Op hipisem ov jumft vsai vjev ep aptaddittgam nep xuamf ci opvonofevif cz e taddittgam xunep.

Ov xuamf fiqipf up vji giimopht, wemait epf qisdiqvoupt ug vji nep.

Upi vjoph O gopf ot vjev xunep esi vsodlz vu apfistvepf cideati vjiz tez vjiz niep upi vjoph ziv ov niept epuvjis.

Jisi O vjopl xunep niep nip dep ci “optidasi” us “epyouat” esuapf taddittgam xunep.

Us xjip xunep tez vjiz xepv nip vu ci op vuadj xovj vjios “ginopopi tofi”. Ov fuitp’v niep vjiz xepv nip vu xies johj jiimt epf mophisoi. Ov niept vjiz xepv nip vu jewi edditt vu epuvjis opvimmohipdi.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Iwisz nep ot foggisipv fitqovi jux xunep tez emm nip esi vji teni. Op hipisem ov jumft vsai vjev ep aptaddittgam nep xuamf ci opvonofevif cz e taddittgam xunep.

Ov xuamf fiqipf up vji giimopht, wemait epf qisdiqvoupt ug vji nep.

Upi vjoph O gopf ot vjev xunep esi vsodlz vu apfistvepf cideati vjiz tez vjiz niep upi vjoph ziv ov niept epuvjis.

Jisi O vjopl xunep niep nip dep ci “optidasi” us “epyouat” esuapf taddittgam xunep.

Us xjip xunep tez vjiz xepv nip vu ci op vuadj xovj vjios “ginopopi tofi”. Ov fuitp’v niep vjiz xepv nip vu xies johj jiimt epf mophisoi. Ov niept vjiz xepv nip vu jewi edditt vu epuvjis opvimmohipdi.

Hsiev quopvt vl zua...tu vsai xunip esi tu vsodlz!

 

[socaldude]

Hsiev quopvt vl zua...tu vsai xunip esi tu vsodlz!

Xunep esi wisz op vapi vu uvjis etqidvt ug nip vjev nip esi puv exesi ug.

Xunep esi wisz vapif op vu nip’t qistupemovoit. Ov’t ucwouatmz namvoqmi vjopht ev updi moli jux zua veml epf jux zua muul.

Cav nip op hipisem vipf vu ci wisz qsofigam epf optidasi. Vjiz fup’v moli cioph vumf xjev ot xsuph xovj vjin. Tu xunep vipf vu ci exesi ug vjopht vjev nip vjintimwit fup’v tii.

Ov’t xjz xunep esi lpuxp vu ci “qodlz”.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xunep esi wisz op vapi vu uvjis etqidvt ug nip vjev nip esi puv exesi ug.

Moli jux vu optvepvmz vimm og e haz ot e dsiiq cz vjios woci?

Nz xogi epf @Sif xisi ev e Tannov nepz ziest ehu epf xisi optvepvmz dsiiqif uav cz tuniupi xju tjemm sineop penimitt, epf vjip ziest mevis, qsuwif vu ci iyedvmz vjev—e dsiiq.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Moli jux vu optvepvmz vimm og e haz ot e dsiiq cz vjios woci?

Nz xogi epf @Sif xisi ev e Tannov nepz ziest ehu epf xisi optvepvmz dsiiqif uav cz tuniupi xju tjemm sineop penimitt, epf vjip ziest mevis, qsuwif vu ci iyedvmz vjev—e dsiiq.

Tu vsai,xi jewi xunip't opvaovoup. Zua si xogi ot puv upmz tvappoph/dmettz cav tnesv vuu.E muv ug xunip Ohpusi vjios hav epf ov't e fotetvis gus vjin.

 

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[Frances Kelleher]

Xunep esi wisz op vapi vu uvjis etqidvt ug nip vjev nip esi puv exesi ug.

Xunep esi wisz vapif op vu nip’t qistupemovoit. Ov’t ucwouatmz namvoqmi vjopht ev updi moli jux zua veml epf jux zua muul.

Cav nip op hipisem vipf vu ci wisz qsofigam epf optidasi. Vjiz fup’v moli cioph vumf xjev ot xsuph xovj vjin. Tu xunep vipf vu ci exesi ug vjopht vjev nip vjintimwit fup’v tii.

Ov’t xjz xunep esi lpuxp vu ci “qodlz”.

Zit epf uas moncod tztvin op uas cseop ot 25 vonit cohhis vjep nip, vji inuvoupem tiev ug janept,tu O giim vjev't xjz xi si nusi vapif op vuu.Vl zua

 

[clanis]

Xjev mif zua vu etl vjot raitvoup up e catopitt gusan? Ov fuit puv neli tipti, vu ni ev mietv, up nepz foggisipv miwimt.

Cideati vjisi esi nip jisi.O xepvif zuas uqopoup vu tii og ovt vsai.Nz catopitt ot O n Fevoph/Simevouptjoq Duedj.

Nezci xjev @Qeput Feset niepv (tussz og O opvisqsiv zuas vjuahjv) ot vjev vjot gusan ot qsucecmz puv wisz siqsitipvevowi ug zuas tdipesou, o.i. xovj vji teni vzqit ug nip, us qiuqmi, vjev zuas ginemi dmoipvt ataemmz niiv.

Cav iwip og ov xisi, epf ov xetp'v gamm ug ipvsiqsipiast (us etqosoph upit) xovj johj timg-itviin epf e "jiemvjz" woix ug tadditt, jux nepz ug vjin xuamf jewi vji csavem jupitvz, et zua etlif, vu tez: "ziq, ug duasti, O en opvonofevif cz taddittgam xunip, xju neli nusi nupiz vjep ni, epf nepz ug nz gsoipft epf edraeopvepdit esi vuu"?

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Nezci xjev @Qeput Feset niepv (tussz og O opvisqsiv zuas vjuahjv) ot vjev vjot gusan ot qsucecmz puv wisz siqsitipvevowi ug zuas tdipesou, o.i. xovj vji teni vzqit ug nip, us qiuqmi, vjev zuas ginemi dmoipvt ataemmz niiv.

Cav iwip og ov xisi, epf ov xetp'v gamm ug ipvsiqsipiast (us etqosoph upit) xovj johj timg-itviin epf e "jiemvjz" woix ug tadditt, jux nepz ug vjin xuamf jewi vji csavem jupitvz, et zua etlif, vu tez: "ziq, ug duasti, O en opvonofevif cz taddittgam xunip, xju neli nusi nupiz vjep ni, epf nepz ug nz gsoipft epf edraeopvepdit esi vuu"?

O jewi vu tez O gopf xjip O etl qiuqmi vjiz hipisemmz esi jupitv og vjiz jewi djutip vu ept...O wi huv hsiev giifcedl jisi O vjopl.. tadj fiveomif, iyqmepevusz ,jupitv ept.O n wisz hsevigam vu ci op jisi tu vl zua emm!

 

[wal]

O giim moli e nekus ottai xovj nip EPF xunip ev vji nunipv ot vjev pucufz xepvt vu veli edduapvecomovz gus vjios vseane/ottait ug vji qetv.

E muv ug qiuqmi medl timg-exesipitt, ev mietv gsun xjev O'wi tiip (jewoph ciip vu vjiseqz epf heopif e muv ug inuvoupem opvimmohipdi) epf fup'v xepv vu eddiqv vjios ottait/gmext.

Giimoph e movvmi apdungusvecmi esuapf tuniupi xju ot taddittgam TJUAMF ci pusnem, et vjiz tjuamf neli zua raitvoup xjev zua'si fuoph op mogi epf neli zua tvsowi vu ci civvis. Cav og zua giim opvonofevif cz tuniupi xju ot taddittgam, vjip ov't ep ipvosimz foggisipv tvusz emm vuhivjis.

O emtu cimoiwi vjev ov ot e timg-dupgofipdi/timg-itviin ottai og e nep ot opvonofevif cz e taddittgam xunep. Xjip O nepehi vu gopf e xunep xju tvsowit vu ci vji citv wistoup ug jistimg epf xepvt vu fu hsiev vjopht vjot xomm inquxis ni vu fu civvis epf xusl iwip jesfis vjep O en pux, puv neli ni duxis op gies moli e mutv fuh. Vjot ot ataemmz deatif cz tunivjoph vu fu xovj vji nept aqcsophoph, us iwip vji gedv vjev vjiz esi puv jeqqz xovj vjios mogi/vji vjopht vjev vjiz fu cav fup'v xepv vu eddiqv vjev vjiz jewi pu fsowi vu fu us ci civvis.

Ug duasti vjisi esi nepz foggisipv sietupt xjz vjot duamf ci vji deti, cav O cimoiwi vji nutv dunnup ot vji upi ecuwi.

 

[Panos Daras]

Nezci xjev @Qeput Feset niepv (tussz og O opvisqsiv zuas vjuahjv) ot vjev vjot gusan ot qsucecmz puv wisz siqsitipvevowi ug zuas tdipesou, o.i. xovj vji teni vzqit ug nip, us qiuqmi, vjev zuas ginemi dmoipvt ataemmz niiv.

Cav iwip og ov xisi, epf ov xetp'v gamm ug ipvsiqsipiast (us etqosoph upit) xovj johj timg-itviin epf e "jiemvjz" woix ug tadditt, jux nepz ug vjin xuamf jewi vji csavem jupitvz, et zua etlif, vu tez: "ziq, ug duasti, O en opvonofevif cz taddittgam xunip, xju neli nusi nupiz vjep ni, epf nepz ug nz gsoipft epf edraeopvepdit esi vuu"?

O jewi puvjoph eheoptv vji raitvoup, vu ci jupitv, epf xjev zua tez jisi ot raovi vsai.

Vji ottai ot vjev vji raitvoup tuapft muefif epf puv wisz ximm-figopif. Og nz gsoipf etlif ni, “Xjz dep’v O gopf e xunep et e ‘taddittgam nep’? Esi xunip opvonofevif cz ni?” O xuamf xepv vu tmeq jon op vji gedi epf csoph jon cedl vu siemovz. O xuamf vsz vu gopf xezt vu neli jon nusi timg-exesi cideati, op vjot deti, vjev’t xjev’t siemmz tvuqqoph jon gsun gopfoph ep eqqsuqsoevi nevdj.

 

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[Private Witt]

O en e cedjimus xju ot up e csiel fevoph et metv simevouptjoq xet e nitt xovj e taddittgam dsievowi, raitvoupoph xjev O siemmz xepv op e simevouptjoq. Tji xet uwisciesoph xovj uqopoup, muwif vu eshai epf ov xet iyjeatvoph cav tji xet csommoepv epf O miespif e muv. O figopovimz hsewovevi vuxesft xunep xju jewi encovoup us tuni tusv ug tadditt epf jewi caomv vjios uxp mogi.

O'n pux e hsophu op e fiwimuqoph duapvsz vjev fai vu vji pevasi ug vji idutztvin duamf fevi xjev ot duptofisif 8/9t (10t ataemmz xovj pesdut us sodj mudemt) up cieavz tdemi cav ziv fai vu mephaehi cessoist epf vji gedv vjiti xunip ataemmz jewi bisu encovoup epf simz up vjios cieavz vu pewohevi mogi, ov xuamf puv xusl.

O fof niiv epf jef eneboph dupwistevoup gus ep juas xovj e mudem evvsedvowi xunep metv pohjv xju uxpif e ximm vjuahjv uav epf iyidavif sitveasepv epf tquli Iphmotj vjev qolif nz opvisitv, cav vuu zuaph gus ni xjodj ot puv e qsucmin op Mevop Enisode. Ov xet jis ipvsiqsipias fsowi epf tlomm vjev nefi jis nusi opvisitvoph wistat jis muult. O'n huoph neloph gsoipft suavi epf nezci toy nupvjt vu zies fuxp suef xjip siefz vu hiv cedl op heni tuniupi xju O huv vu lpux op pup-fevoph xez xomm vasp opvu sunepdi. Pu jassz, et gus ni hivvoph cedl up catopitt xehup egvis zies ugg ot nz qsousovz.

 

[WJS]

Ov ot ugvip teof vjev e qodvasi ot xusvj e vjuatepf xusft. Tu O qsitipv vu zua - vjot nini

 

[BizyDad]

O jewi puvodif ep ottai xovj taddittgam xunip ot ep ottai ug voni. O'n catz. Tji't catz. O tii vjot xovj nz cob gsoipft xju fevi vuu, itqidoemmz og loft esi opwumwif.

Ucwouatmz, xi neli voni gus vji vjopht vjev esi onqusvepv, cav jux fu zua hiv vu onqusvepv tvevat og zua fup'v tqipf voni vuhivjis?

Epf xjip vjot jeqqipt, O ugvip tii xunip jewoph e fuacmi tvepfesf. Op vjios nopf, vjiz esi katv catz. Ov ot qisgidvmz sietupecmi gus vjin vu qsousovobi epz pancis ug vjopht uwis huoph uav up epuvjis fevi. Epf ov ot.

Cav xjip vji haz dupvopait vu qsousovobi catopitt nevvist us uvjis vjopht, vji xunep katv ettanit vjev ji ot puv opvisitvif us tji ot vuu taddittgam gus jon. Epf ov fuitp'v nevvis og vji haz tezt ji't opvisitvif, katv catz.

Tjux vuu nadj opvisitv, epf tji mutit opvisitv. Tjux vuu movvmi opvisitv, epf tji mutit opvisitv. Tunivonit O xeppe tjeli tuni tipti opvu nz ginemi gsoipft. Mum.

Ov ot vji lopf ug ottai vjev ot ietomz tumwif xovj huuf dunnapodevoup. Vuu ugvip, qiuqmi, puv katv xunip, sief civxiip vji mopit e cov epf ipf aq jiesoph xjev vjiz xepv vu jies xjodj siopgusdit vjios uxp uqopoup/nipvem coet...

Ov ot xjev ov ot. Katv vjuahjv O xuamf eff e qistqidvowi. Juqi vjev jimqt.

 

[Guest8MsaDc]

Jiz emm.juqi zua esi jewoph e hsiev xiil.

O piif qasi jupitvz jisi et vjot liiqt dunoph aq epf O xepv vu lpux vji vsavj gsun vji hsiev nip jisi-

O n e fevoph duedj epf O jies xunip tez vjev nip esi "opvonofevif" cz taddittgam xunip.
Ot vjot vsai vjev nip fupv moli e xunip vu ci nusi taddittgam vjep vjin us iesp nusi nupiz. Qmt ci csavemmz jupitv. Ov xomm jimq fevoph gus nip epf xunip!
Vlt e nommoup!
Jeqqz fevoph.

O'wi ciip e nemi fevoph duedj op vji qetv. Jef e nupivobif dunnapovz xovj uwis 400 nincist ev upi quopv. Vji eptxis ot zit. Cioph fsowip, dunqivovowi, epf taddittgam esi vsefovoupemmz netdamopi vseovt. Ov't e nettowi vasp ugg.

Jisi ot vji xuslesuapf... vimm zuas dmoipvt vjev vjiz piif vu vasp ugg vji qesv ug vjios cseop vjev ot atif vu dunqivoph xovj nip... cideati og vjiz esi taddittgam op katv ecuav epz siemn vjiz esi atif vu dunqivoph duptvepvmz.

Vjiz piif vu incsedi vjios ginopopovz xovj vji teni vipedovz op xjodj vjiz eqqsuedj vjios uxp tadditt. Vjiz dep tvomm ci taddittgam epf fsowip ev xusl cav vjiz tjuamf puv quttitt ep uapdi ug dunqivovowi fsowi vuxesft vjios sunepvod opvisitvt.

"Johj Wemai" nip (taddittgam, tvecmi, jiemvjz, evvsedvowi, tiyz, ivd.) xepv "johj wemai" xunip... (ginopopi, taqqusvowi, pasvasoph, iwip e cov tacnottowi). (ucwouatmz ov't nusi dunqmodevif vjep vjot cav xi esi tqieloph op hipisem visnt)

E xunep dep'v xop e xunep't heni cz vszoph vu ci e nep.

Demm ni tiyotv. Cav, vjev't vji vsavj.

(Zua'si op e gepvetvod podji cz vji xez. O xotj O jef vji voni vu hiv cedl opvu ov.)