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Yes, I will help you find a product to sell on Amazon. But the catch is that all the information will be posted here. No PM's. So if you want to talk about a potential product, you must do it on this thread and risk a bunch of copycats. But, as we always say here, it's not the idea, it's the execution.

The idea of this thread is for others to post a product that they think might do well on Amazon and I will analyze it and give pros and cons about the product. Hopefully, this will help give you ideas and direction on other products if not the one being analyzed.

What I don't want is people asking about crap products and supplements. For example, I don't want a post that says, "What do you think about cutting boards?" I want a more in depth post that says, "I'm thinking of doing bamboo cutting boards. I can make it better by blah blah.I look at the competitors and blah blah.

The problem with most people looking for a product is that they don't "DO" enough things or have experience in broad areas. It could be because you are young and just haven't experienced enough life yet. But for many, it's probably because they don't "DO" anything that's not on the internet, they don't have any hobbies and they sit at home looking for an idea.

So let me run by some hobbies I've had when I was younger: collecting comics, baseball cards, RC car racing, saltwater fish keeping (reef tanks), paintball, car tracking, etc...

If I pick one hobby from my list, let's pick saltwater fish keeping, I can think of 3-5 problems that I had during my fish keeping days. In fact, when I go to Amazon now, I see some great innovations in things.

I'll give you an example of a super small niche in reef keeping.

To grow your own SPS corals in reef tanks you take a pair of pliers and cut off a piece and put it on the bottom of the fishtank. This is because you have to slowly aclimmatize the new piece to the light. If you put it at the top of the tank, it will burn and die. So we put it on the bottom and every week we raise it slowly by 3-4 inches. We did this by just putting it higher and higher on rocks.

Sometimes, the piece of coral would fall off the rock. So people starting super gluing the piece to a small rock.

Then as time went by, people started making special "rocks" to super glue them to. Thus coral plugs were invented.918Kin02aTL._SL1500_.jpg
Amazon.com : Oceans Wonders Coral Frag Plugs 100pc : Pet Supplies

Then soon came racks so people had a place to put the coral plugs. These racks were held by magnets to the side of the fish tank so you could slowly raise the height easily. Thus magnetic coral racks were born.
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Amazon.com : Oceans Wonders N52 MAG RACK PRO MAGNETIC CORAL FRAG RACK HOLDS UP TO 30 FRAG PLUGS : Pet Supplies

This is an SPS coral frag tank. Each one of those pieces could sell for $30 or more to a hobbyist.
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Neither of these products were available when I was reef keeping 20 years ago. They have come a long way in 20 years. If I had been in an entrepreneurial mindset back then instead of a hobbyist maybe I would have invented some of these. They certainly solved a need.

There's probably some dude out there making a decent living in this niche who's going to be pissed off that I'm exposing it.

My point is, how do you even know that this need is out there if you don't "DO" anything in your life? There is probably a problem for people who flying kites or people who fly drones. But you won't ever know what it is if you don't do these things.

I'll give you another one that is more current. See this object below? Guess what it is?61wXNcGD0fL._SL1500_.jpg
Amazon.com : Neewer 24x24 inch/60x60 cm Photo Studio Shooting Tent Light Cube Diffusion Soft Box Kit with 4 Colors Backdrops (Red Dark Blue Black White) for Photography : Photographic Lighting Diffusers : Camera & Photo

It is a lightbox for photography. It is a 24" cube. The beauty of this box is that it folds down flat. Guess what else it could be good for? Drone racing!

Yes, drone racing. My friend who races drones builds 6' x 6' x 6' PVC cubes that they use as gates in the park. The problem is that they need to carry about a bunch of 6' PVC pipes in their small cars.

You could take this lightbox, remove the center panels, make it 6' long, and presto! You got a portable lightweight drone gate.

Here are some currently on Amazon.
Amazon.com: drone gates
 
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Here is neat trick I learned.

If you put a keyword in Amazon Search, it pulls up the popular phrase with the keyword in the front. For example, if you put "party", it will show "party favors" or "party supplies".

If you put the keyword in the Amazon Search and then put a # in front of it, it will show you the most popular long tail keyword with the keyword anywhere in the phrase. So if you put "party" with #, the 3rd most popular is "Unicorn Party".

If you search for Unicorn Party or Unicorn Party Supplies, you will find many products (plate set, hats..etc) that have almost the exact design, and not many reviews. In addition, according to JS they are all selling well.

Make a bunch of unicorn designs, put it on napkins, paper plate, banners... and sell it in a big package for large parties.
 

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I'll start off for you @biophase And I'll disclaimer here, my plate is full, I have no intentions of creating and selling this on Amazon, so if Bio gives his thumbs up on this product idea, it's fair game for anyone who wants to execute it.

Ok, the product. Dog proof litter box.
This is something I've been searching for recently and cannot find. We just adopted a new pitty and she loves cat turds. It's gross. People who have both cats and dogs know, you dog loves tootsie rolls.

Here's what's available on Amazon, that in my experience, would actually keep a dog out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0069HL4BM/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20 If you have a big dog.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002DH8L4/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20 If your dog has a big head.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XKX6TFE/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20
This is the only one I know 100% would keep my dog out. $175-180


This is similar to the design that kept our previous dog out but still allows our new one to get in.

Petmate Top Entry Litter Pan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVL30NC/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

I would design a product similar to this one, offer a clear option also (our cats actually prefer clear so they can see out, feel safer) but make it taller. Dogs that are tall and lean and just put their head straight through the hole on this one. But by make it about 1 ft taller, they wouldn't be able to reach the bottom.

Or I'd make one like this

Designer Catbox Litter Box Enclosure in White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005AFMJYA/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

That didn't cost $120. This ones actually perfect, but again, we'd have to buy theee for our house, $360 for litter boxes is Insane.

So, I'd find a way to construct something similar to those two with lower cost to produce.

Thoughts?

Let's look at this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005AFMJYA/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

I would avoid this product 100%. First, it is too big and bulky. This is why the prices are so high. Even if you could get one built for $10, you are looking at maybe $5 a unit to ship overseas, even directly to Amazon FBA. Then if you sell at $100, Amazon would take $15 commission and charge you probably $40 for fulfillment. So out of your $100, you get $45. Your cost is $15. You make $30. Then you have Amazon's warehouse storage. This might cost you $2/unit/month to store. So if you ship 100 units, you could be looking at $200/mo.

So much can go wrong. So little upside.

Too much work. You can find easier products.
 
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I think we're all getting a real lesson on how difficult it is to pick a good product to sell on Amazon.

This shit is hard!
 
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Speaking of backpacks, something I think might have a lot of value that I don't see a lot of bags doing is high contrast interiors.

Instead of opening your pack to a "black hole" if it was a vibrant yellow, or white, or whatever you would be able to find your objects a lot easier with less light than a typical black-interior pack.

Very clear value add + easy to demonstrate with photography.

I've seen one or two like this in the past and thought it was just genius. I also don't think they are very wide spread (but it's been forever since I've checked).
 

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Yes, I will help you find a product to sell on Amazon.

Thank you for doing this.

I think the point OP is trying to make is the importance of process behind the product selection. The actual product does not matter.

Stealing someones product idea won't get you anywhere in the long term if you didn't learn the thought process.

I'm really excited to see where this thread goes.
 
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Ok, I'll give this a shot. Although I have little to no intention of following through with this particular item (that means it's ok to steal this idea), I think the process is what's important.

The Problem
I have 10 foot ceilings at my retail store. I am also responsible for changing the light bulbs, which are in recessed housings. So every time a bulb goes out, I have to drag a chair out (shhh, don't tell OSHA), hop up, and change it. I have also previously rented a house with recessed lighting in a 16 foot vaulted ceiling, which is out of chair range. I had to call the landlord and wait a week or two for the light to be replaced.

The Current Solution
There exists light bulb changers for high ceilings. Basically a long pole with an attachment at the end to grip the light bulb. Searching on Amazon, every listing looks the exact same, only different brands and different colors. They all have about 3.5-4 stars.

The Problem with the Current Solution
Looking through the reviews, I have identified several areas that could be improved upon.
1. No carrying case. Since the kits come with several attachments for different bulb types, a cheap case to keep everything together could be a good selling point.
2. No directions. A simple sheet with directions plus some youtube videos would add value.
3. Multiple complaints that the pole is flimsy. Use thicker aluminum and better plastic peices.
4. Pole is too short. It only extends to 11', so a 20' ceiling (or outdoor floods) would still need a ladder. Options are to make the pole longer (which increases weight) or an additional section that can be screwed on if needed.
5. There are reported problems that where the head attachment connects to the pole is pretty flimsy. Some customers have drilled a hole and put an additional screw in place to secure it.
6. Sometimes the head unscrews instead of the light bulb. Needs a better attaching mechanism (One that locks in place). This is the main complaint of 1 star reviews.
7. Some complaints about oddly angled light bulb outlets. I know there are screwdrivers you can get with variable angles, but I'm not sure if this is a big enough pain point.
8. Suction cup is too rigid to adhere to some bulbs. Use a more flexible type of plastic. Also, the head comes unscrewed with stubborn bulbs (see #6).

Anticipated Improvements
The major complaints are the flimsiness and how the heads come unscrewed instead of the light bulbs. Plan to use thicker aluminum for the construction. Also need to engineer a locking mechanism to hold the head to the pole. A cheap carrying case shouldn't add too much to the overall price, but provide a higher perceived value. Use a more flexible plastic for the suction cup.

Drawbacks
The major issue that could crop up is cost. Right now, Alibaba is selling these kits for around $6-$10 each. With the upgrades, I would think it would cost around $15 per kit to produce. The cheap kits retail for about $25, so this kit would be about 2x the cost ($50-$60) in order for it to make financial sense.

So, @biophase , what do you think? Is there potential here?

It's a tough product. The price point is a little low for its size. I wonder how small the package is. The problem with improving this product is that it is plastic and a new mold can cost you a few thousand. It's hard to recoup that on a $5 profit product.

If I absolutely had to sell this product. I would maybe just sell a 20' pole that is compatible with all the head parts. Maybe sell the pole with a case that can hold all their accessories.
 

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You are 100% correct that it was a product with no improvement or value added to it and that wasn't my focus on this one. I was more trying to find something that would be easy enough to sell with minimal investment while I look to find a better higher priced product. I am fairly familiar with FBA as I have sold about 50 items with retail arbitrage to get my feet wet but have not imported anything yet and thought of this more as a cheap education in doing so, not as a lifelong product to fastlane. I appreciate the reply and thought more of posting my experience here to show some "what not to do" at the same time for the mistakes I made jumping into this one. I will definitely have those thoughts in mind for my next product.

The problem with alot of the "get my feet wet" mentality is that you are more likely to lose your money. Honestly, what probably would have happened is that you would have spent $3000 on your 500 unit test and probably ended up with a $500-$1000 loss. This is because you would have found out that you needed to be around $20 to get sales, thereby making $5 per unit not including PPC. If you include PPC then you might break even.

Just my opinion, but why not start with a "permanent" product. Why waste $3000 and 3-4 months of time only to shut down your listing after it doesn't work. Go for it on your first product and start a business, not test a product. Where will you be in 4 months if you launched this product, only to lose money or breakeven?
 
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Hay Biophase. I want to sell my own product in amazon by fba system.Can you please tell me the whole process ? or how can you help me to sell on Amazon ?

Sure!

1) Go to alibaba.com
2) Find a product
3) Import product
4) List on Amazon
5) Profit
6) Buy Ferrari
 

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I had a new business that I wanted to launch this December. This business is selling winter product, think skis and snowboards accessory. The problem was that the R&D took so long that by the time October rolled around it was getting way to late to launch in 2018.

The manufacturer had an MOQ of 500 pcs with a price around $30, so it would have been at $15000 initial order. I've been going back and forth with them on then MOQ since if I didn't get these before November, I didn't know if I could move 500 units after Xmas.

Fast forward to yesterday. The R&D is done and it's production order time, but I tell them, we missed the season, I'm not going to order until July. They say that the ski season goes until April. I tell them it goes till March at the latest. Anyway, there's no way I can move 500 units in February and March at the tail end of the ski season. They ask me how many I want. I tell them 100 units. They say OK.

Moral of the story... During the busy season of the factory everyone else is ordering so the factory can give you high MOQs and prices. Now in December, all orders are done so they will take little orders. They agreed to do 100 units at the same price as 500 units.

Something to think about... and to put into your war chest for later on.

Now my order is only $3000. A much less riskier venture. What I will probably do is air ship them and try to get Jan-Mar sales at break even. This will give me good feedback and I can adjust for winter 2019 when my real launch will be.
 

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I Want to sell Football kicking cage like this :

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000B6LN3G/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

People are complaining about the net quality and there is no bag to pack the product

so the improvements I will make to this product are : improve the quality of the net and add nice bag to it

What do you think @biophase

I think this product has potential. It came be broken down into a small package for shipping and adding the carry bag would not cost much at all. The nice thing is that the improvement portion is the net, which can be easily made without new designs or molds.
 
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Ok, I'll give this a shot. Although I have little to no intention of following through with this particular item (that means it's ok to steal this idea), I think the process is what's important.

The Problem
I have 10 foot ceilings at my retail store. I am also responsible for changing the light bulbs, which are in recessed housings. So every time a bulb goes out, I have to drag a chair out (shhh, don't tell OSHA), hop up, and change it. I have also previously rented a house with recessed lighting in a 16 foot vaulted ceiling, which is out of chair range. I had to call the landlord and wait a week or two for the light to be replaced.

The Current Solution
There exists light bulb changers for high ceilings. Basically a long pole with an attachment at the end to grip the light bulb. Searching on Amazon, every listing looks the exact same, only different brands and different colors. They all have about 3.5-4 stars.

The Problem with the Current Solution
Looking through the reviews, I have identified several areas that could be improved upon.
1. No carrying case. Since the kits come with several attachments for different bulb types, a cheap case to keep everything together could be a good selling point.
2. No directions. A simple sheet with directions plus some youtube videos would add value.
3. Multiple complaints that the pole is flimsy. Use thicker aluminum and better plastic peices.
4. Pole is too short. It only extends to 11', so a 20' ceiling (or outdoor floods) would still need a ladder. Options are to make the pole longer (which increases weight) or an additional section that can be screwed on if needed.
5. There are reported problems that where the head attachment connects to the pole is pretty flimsy. Some customers have drilled a hole and put an additional screw in place to secure it.
6. Sometimes the head unscrews instead of the light bulb. Needs a better attaching mechanism (One that locks in place). This is the main complaint of 1 star reviews.
7. Some complaints about oddly angled light bulb outlets. I know there are screwdrivers you can get with variable angles, but I'm not sure if this is a big enough pain point.
8. Suction cup is too rigid to adhere to some bulbs. Use a more flexible type of plastic. Also, the head comes unscrewed with stubborn bulbs (see #6).

Anticipated Improvements
The major complaints are the flimsiness and how the heads come unscrewed instead of the light bulbs. Plan to use thicker aluminum for the construction. Also need to engineer a locking mechanism to hold the head to the pole. A cheap carrying case shouldn't add too much to the overall price, but provide a higher perceived value. Use a more flexible plastic for the suction cup.

Drawbacks
The major issue that could crop up is cost. Right now, Alibaba is selling these kits for around $6-$10 each. With the upgrades, I would think it would cost around $15 per kit to produce. The cheap kits retail for about $25, so this kit would be about 2x the cost ($50-$60) in order for it to make financial sense.

So, @biophase , what do you think? Is there potential here?
 

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Thanks Walter. The private labeling was only a minor cost so wasn't too worried about that and am open to doing it myself if I found a new manufacturer but these new prices I have been quoted are all without private labeling unless I exceed 1000 units and I have been trying to do a 500 unit test run before committing $10k+ to my first product order.
Even a handful of units of those items can have your brand applied locally, so even if you can buy a sample quantity of unlabelled ones it could be viable.
The problem with alot of the "get my feet wet" mentality is that you are more likely to lose your money. Honestly, what probably would have happened is that you would have spent $3000 on your 500 unit test and probably ended up with a $500-$1000 loss. This is because you would have found out that you needed to be around $20 to get sales, thereby making $5 per unit not including PPC. If you include PPC then you might break even.

Just my opinion, but why not start with a "permanent" product. Why waste $3000 and 3-4 months of time only to shut down your listing after it doesn't work. Go for it on your first product and start a business, not test a product. Where will you be in 4 months if you launched this product, only to lose money or breakeven?
I have never seen the point in starting a temporary, potentially loss making business. If anyone is going to make the effort to get a business up and running, and they need to know what works and what doesn't, surely a combination of education (paid for if necessary) and thorough research would be a better approach.

Start off with the odds in your favor.

Walter
 
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if your product is to abstract there are very few buyers.

Boring doesn't mean abstract.

Casters are boring. But people buy them every day.
Soap dishes are boring. But everyone has one.
Milk crates are boring. They still sell.

Something can be boring without being "abstract".

Anything people are passionate about generally has a million competitors.
Anything that you need but nobody is really passionate about is likely what what would constitute a great "boring" product.
A shower organizer is something people need, can be improved, but nobody is passionate about it.

I'm not saying "go boring", necessarily, but when someone says "go boring", this is what they mean.
 

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High quality Yerba Mate Gourd

Let's get really niche.

Here is and example of what I am talking about.
And here.
Lastly here.

The examples provided are the range between what is currently out there. The factory-made gourds have many different complaints, as do the handmade ones.

Tea is definitely on the uptrend right now, and the tea snobs, zen hedonists, and mommy bloggers need their special tools to drink the stuff.

The size and price range for this product seams like it would be worth it to go FBA.

As for product specs and modifications;
  • Produce in-factory using materials that have the same hardness as the real handmade gourds, maybe ceramic. Alternative is to find the best maker of the handmade gourds instead of producing the in the factory
  • Possibly repackage them in a set of two vessels (one is a lonely number)
  • Have different colors and patterns available (trendy or "cool" looking)
  • Take higher quality pictures
  • Possibly offer the Yerba Mate tea with the item as a set since they are frequently bought together
Thank you to @biophase for this thread.

Hi Greg, one of my coaching clients had already sent this to me earlier this year. Our decision was that it was a no go. The silicone ones are a me too product. Basically too easy to start and too many people doing it. The handmade ones are a little better, but still a bunch for sale and nothing different about them except style. Again, I stay away from subjective competitive products that the only differentiation is look, but functionality is basically the same.
 

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I'll start off for you @biophase And I'll disclaimer here, my plate is full, I have no intentions of creating and selling this on Amazon, so if Bio gives his thumbs up on this product idea, it's fair game for anyone who wants to execute it.

Ok, the product. Dog proof litter box.
This is something I've been searching for recently and cannot find. We just adopted a new pitty and she loves cat turds. It's gross. People who have both cats and dogs know, you dog loves tootsie rolls.

Here's what's available on Amazon, that in my experience, would actually keep a dog out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0069HL4BM/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20 If you have a big dog.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002DH8L4/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20 If your dog has a big head.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XKX6TFE/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20
This is the only one I know 100% would keep my dog out. $175-180


This is similar to the design that kept our previous dog out but still allows our new one to get in.

Petmate Top Entry Litter Pan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KVL30NC/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

I would design a product similar to this one, offer a clear option also (our cats actually prefer clear so they can see out, feel safer) but make it taller. Dogs that are tall and lean and just put their head straight through the hole on this one. But by make it about 1 ft taller, they wouldn't be able to reach the bottom.

Or I'd make one like this

Designer Catbox Litter Box Enclosure in White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005AFMJYA/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

That didn't cost $120. This ones actually perfect, but again, we'd have to buy theee for our house, $360 for litter boxes is Insane.

So, I'd find a way to construct something similar to those two with lower cost to produce.

Thoughts?
 
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Ok I'll play ball. The product is called the peanut and it is a tool used for myofascial release.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B016V5SG4Y/

There are similar products in this niche (foam rollers, lacross balls) which have instructional ebooks budled with them which give instructions on how to use them, but there are no peanut products with an ebook.

This is a big no. Too competitive, no value add or opportunity to differentiate.

Adding an ebook is not a value add.
 

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so you wouldnt give it a go? at the end i think not only gamer would buy it, but i speculate :)

@biophase also no recommendation on this one?
Take a look at www.elementalknives.com, they're a 7 figure Shopify store (check out www.xpareto.com).

Take their URL and plug it into www.similarweb.com and see where they're getting traffic from.

Now you can see where to advertise your product, because Facebook doesn't allow advertising of weapons.

If you can make design better than them, then you shouldn't have a problem.
 

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Hey @biophase

How about an inflatable lounger like this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYDSWQB/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

When I typed in "inflatable lounger", 481 results popped up. I'm not sure how many results constitute as high competition so I'm wondering if you would consider this a high competition product?

Anyways, this listing has a 3.5 star rating so there are clearly some flaws here. Some of the low star reviews say that after just a few uses there was a small puncture or some kind of leak that caused it to deflate. Perhaps stronger material or better sewn seams would solve this.

Also, many of the low star reviews say that it's hard to inflate and you can end up looking like a weirdo running around for a while trying to inflate it. Maybe some pump that would be included would solve this?

I’m sorry if this comes off as mean, but are you serious? I can’t tell if you are sincere or just trolling because this is the absolute number one worst product to ever sell on Amazon. If you could look up what not to sell on Amazon you would see a picture of this product.

That’s why I am not sure if you are serious. If you are I apologize.

This product is a case study of what sellers taking an Amazon class would sell. It has so much competition and the product is so bad that you saw prices go from $100 down to $20 in a few months. All the reviews for every product are so bad. Tons of fake reviews and giveaways were done on these.
 
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6. Sometimes the head unscrews instead of the light bulb. Needs a better attaching mechanism (One that locks in place). This is the main complaint of 1 star reviews.
Reverse threaded head. That way when you are unscrewing the lightbulb it is actually tightening the pole head. Simple, works, and doesn't add complexity.
 

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Why would you say the ebook is not a value add? If you're looking at fitness equipment as a whole, you're probably right. For example, adding an ebook with a jump rope probably created no additional value for the consumer.

But with these myofascial release tools, there are a ton of ways to use them. I personally have a lacrosse ball for myofascial release and purchased a book called supple leopard to learn about different ways it can be used (although I never actually got around to using it ). I'd have thought bridging that gap in knowledge would be value adding?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Do you think that adding a free ebook would make someone purchase your peanut over another one on the market at the same or lower price? What creditability do you have that would make someone value your ebook?
 
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Boring doesn't mean abstract.

Casters are boring. But people buy them every day.
Soap dishes are boring. But everyone has one.
Milk crates are boring. They still sell.

Something can be boring without being "abstract".

Anything people are passionate about generally has a million competitors.
Anything that you need but nobody is really passionate about is likely what what would constitute a great "boring" product.
A shower organizer is something people need, can be improved, but nobody is passionate about it.

I'm not saying "go boring", necessarily, but when someone says "go boring", this is what they mean.

I tell my family and friends that my dream is to own an industrial machine lube factory. I wait for their eyes to glaze over as I envision my simple yet essential operation churning out cash year after year.
 
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For anyone that is interested, I took the Rock Climbing Hang Board and did a test order of 10 units.

After the 4th sale, I was already at the bottom of page one of "hangboard" and "hang board". I sold all of the 10 units in roughly 35 days with 0 PPC.

I started selling them for $29.99 ( I did not even have the buy box in the beginning) and slowly increased to $52.99. All using FBM. Imagine the potential when using PPC and FBA.

I have to look back but I believe I bought them for $21 with nice white box and foam inserts. If someone wanted to do this, I would buy a lot more than 10 units and try to get the price down to $17. Like what biophase said, you wont get rich off this product but I can see you doing at least $1k in profits a month. I will take this down if someone wants to continue with this
 

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My thoughts on it were you can improve the quality of the plastic that holds the bracelet together, increase the quality of the materials used in the bracelet so it doesn't fade as easily and give it a unique design in the bracelet that hasn't been brought to market that is in demand. The above would be the reason for the additional costs.

For example, stone bracelets are starting to become a pretty popular style of bracelets for men. This is your typical bracelet on amazon, priced at $8.99. This bracelet has some good reviews, but from a consumer standpoint... the quality of the bracelet is pretty poor, so the string falls apart pretty quickly and the color of the beads fade after minimal use, all in all it's bland. There are even people rating it with 4/5 stars and still saying they weren't satisfied, but for the price that's what they expected.

https://www.amazon.com/Birthstone-Gemstones-Healing-Adjustable-Bracelet/dp/B01C5P2QI6/ref=sr_1_5?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1503535688&sr=1-5&nodeID=7147441011&psd=1&keywords=men's+stone+bracelet&th=1




Lets put a higher quality bracelet to market using a stretchy more durable plastic instead of cheap string, higher grade stones that don't fade as easily and a unique metal design like a tiger's head/paw or a tiki face to differentiate it and sell it for $14.99.

Thoughts?

To me, that is just too risky. You are going to sell a product for double the price of what everybody on Amazon is selling for. How are you going to convey that your product is worth double the price compared to the other ones on the market?

You can't even discounted back down to $8.99, because if you do that people will think it's the same quality as the $8.99.

The price point is just too low and it is just a throwaway type of product. There is no way I would touch this type of product.
 
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Maybe it's just me but I've always found it difficult to get great looking product photos.

Then you should improve your photography skills. It's not as simple as get a DSLR and take pics. It's all about lighting. Then I'd learn some simple photoshop skills (using free GIMP).

But the first thing you should do is begin to read about product photography and photography in general.
 
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How do you know what improvements need to be made without looking at the reviews?


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That's not what Bio was saying. He said he didn't even get that far because the products posted were in high competition niches. Once you find a promising niche,then you look for ways to improve it.

Essentially, everyone's posting really popular or well known product niches. Think as boring or abstract as possible to find your product. I think Bio has used the example of a dog cremation box.
 

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so you wouldnt give it a go? at the end i think not only gamer would buy it, but i speculate :)

@biophase also no recommendation on this one?

Not enough here to give it a shot. This is how you end up with 500 knives in your closet that you can't even get rid of on ebay or craigslist.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something, but looking at some of these products being posted, I'm seeing 4-star reviews. So let's say you improved the product so that it gets an average review of 4.5 stars. Not that big a jump to the average consumer. Worth the risk though? I'm not so sure.

I'm not evening looking at the reviews. I'm looking at the competition landscape, type of product that it is, price point and ease of improvements. You can still improve a 5 star product.
 

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