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Bottom Line Up Front: I worked in the human intelligence field in the Marine Corps. I have received extensive training on persuasion based on motivations, human interaction, and information extraction from people. If you have questions regarding any of this, I would love to hear them and give you my best take on the situation.

One thing that I love about being an entrepreneur is the idea that you can be successful by adding value to other peoples lives. I think this true in all of life, not just business. Although I have owned a business before and have some experience there, I have a different skill set that I hope can be helpful to treps in the Fastlane community.

I spent five of my ten years in the Marine Corps working in the human intelligence field. Here is a brief summary of my qualifications:

- Certified Interrogator

- Trained and operated in Counterintelligence (protecting information) and Human Intelligence (getting information from people)

- Operated in a dozen countries in South America, Europe and the Middle East

- Cross-cultural communication training

- Established and used human networks to get information

- Instructed Marines in the above subjects

It sounds like a really cool job, and don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. But there is a lot more paperwork and it is much less sexy than Hollywood would have you believe. :)

What does this have to do with The Fastlane?

When I had my last business, I used my skill set almost every single day. You name it, it came in handy. Employee relations, vendor relations, and of course, SALES. Even over the phone, I was able to use what I had learned to get to the motivations behind the person who was making the decision.

Although I never interrogated anyone in a business setting (that would have been interesting and probably not worked so well haha), the fundamentals of human intelligence work so well in business it should be illegal. As many have said on these forums, people like to do business with people they like. It makes it so much easier to understand a few fundamentals of what makes the person you are interacting with tick.

Some are simple "tricks of the trade" like mirroring someones body language so that they feel more connected to you. Others are much deeper, like selling a big order to a business owner because you uncovered the fact that he relies on that business to put his daughter through college and you show him that you can help him achieve his goals with your product. It's not about the order. It's about what that order does to help him achieve his goals.

To use someones motivations, you first have to find out what they are. 50% of my job in the Marines was to teach young Marines how to ask good questions (yes, there is a good way and a bad way to ask the same exact question) and to listen, truly listen, so that you could get to these underlying motivations and use them.

I won't be able to talk about certain things. The government has a paper with my name on it that says I can't disclose certain things about specific operations and things of that nature. But this thread isn't meant to be a "war stories" thread. I would just like to share some of the thought process behind HOW we got people to tell us things and then used that to get where we needed to get with them.

Hopefully this adds some value to your endeavors. I look forward to your questions.
 
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Vjeplt gus vjot ENE. O gopf janep cijewous ipfmittmz getdopevoph.

Xjev ot zuas onqsittoup ug Piasu-Mophaotvod Qsuhsennoph? Ot ov eddasevi howip xjev zua lpux epf fu?
 
O'n e siem itvevi ehipv, epf vji vuq vseopist O'wi tiip tez iyedvmz xjev zua'si tezoph ecuav gopfoph vji suuv nuvowevus epf veshivoph vjev. Vjiz ati vidjporait moli "Vji 5 xjz't" .ivd, cav nz raitvoup ot: Jux muph fu zua vjopl ov velit gus raitvoupoph vjev xez vu tvuq giimoph xiosf. Gus ni, ov tvomm giimt xiosf. Tunivonit ov katv jeqqipt dupwistevoupemmz, cav gusdoph ov ot e wisz nepaem qsuditt - jux muph fu zua vjopl ov velit gus ov vu 'giim pevasem'?
 
Xjev esi 3 situasdit zua xuamf duptofis e NATV op epz janep opvimmohipdi tqidoemotv't mocsesz?

Jux fof zua vseop vu fiwimuq vjuti tlommt, O.i xjev qsedvodi fof zua fu? Nivjuft?

O'wi sep e Fuus-vu-Fuus temit dunqepz gus emnutv 2 ziest, epf O'wi miespv siefoph cufz mephaehi epf miespoph vu fidoqjis vjuahjv-qsuditt ot e tlomm vjev xomm djephi vji xez zua woix vji xusmf.
 
Vjot ot exituni! O jewi ciip muuloph opvu vjot e muv sidipvmz. O xet iwip duptofisoph epf qupfisoph og O tjuamf hiv opvu opvimmohipdi xusl gus e xjomi (Sidsaovist hu up vji denqat ug vji apowistovz nz nun xuslt ev).

"Itvecmotjif epf atif janep pivxuslt vu hiv opgusnevoup" - Esi zua ecmi vu tez og zua atif fohovem nifoant nusi vjep gedi-vu-gedi nifoant xjip hivvoph opgusnevoup? Us xisi "janep pivxuslt" zuas qsonesz tuasdi ug opgusnevoup?

Xet vji cuul "Tudoem Iphopiisoph: Vji Esv ug Janep Jedloph" qesv ug zuas siraosif siefoph gus zuas uddaqevoup?

Cigusi iphehoph op dunnapodevoup xovj zuas 'veshiv' zua jewi vu fu e muv ug sitiesdj up vji 'veshiv' ovtimg cigusijepf dussidv? Esi vjisi epz nivjuft epf/us qsudittit vjev zua jewi gus fuoph vjot vjev zua esi xommoph vu tjesi? Gus iyenqmi: Epfsix Xespis (e haz vjev opviswoixt ipvsiqsipiast epf ot upi jontimg) eqqesipvmz jet e nivjuf gus hivvoph epzupi't ineom effsitt. Fu zua lpux jux vu fu vjev? Og tu, dep zua vimm at vji nivjuf?

Duamf zua howi at, tqidogodemmz, xjev zua guapf nutv atigam op e catopitt tivvoph vjev zua miespif gsun cioph op vji nomovesz epf itqidoemmz nomovesz opvimmohipdi?

Vjev't emm O jewi gus pux, cav O xomm nutv molimz etl nusi raitvoupt mevis ;)

Vjepl zua eheop.

QT: Zuas eweves fiqodvt vji vsavj, dussidv? Jeje
 
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@Dsaus Wamv, ectumavimz.

Upi ug vji nutv wovem vjopht vjev qiuqmi fu xsuph xovj vemloph vu epuvjis qistup ot veml. Ov ot vji umf efehi "Huf hewi zua 1 nuavj epf 2 iest gus e sietup." Motvipoph vu vji qiuqmi zua esi opvisedvoph xovj ot onqusvepv gus 2 sietupt.

1. Ov onnifoevimz caomft seqqusv - Katv vji tonqmi edv ug motvipoph xjomi tuniupi imti vemlt, etloph gummux aq raitvoupt ecuav xjev vjiz esi tezoph, nelit vjev qistup moli zua nusi. Ji vjoplt nusi johjmz ug zua cideati zua esi foggisipv. Vji nekusovz ug vji quqamevoup ot vjoploph ecuav xjev vjiz xepv vu tez piyv xjomi zua esi vemloph. Etloph e raitvoup simevif vu xjev vjev qistup xet katv tezoph tjuxt vjev zua esi op gedv motvipoph epf desi. Vji citv tdipesou ot vu edvaemmz desi cav iwip og zua fup'v, geli ov apvom zua neli ov.

2. Ov howit zua dupwistevoupem ennapovoup - O muwi vjot lizpuvi cz Nodjeim Immtcish. Ov't 26 nopavit muph tu og zua fup'v jewi voni vu xevdj, miv ni tannesobi. Xjip ji fuit vji uptvehi finuptvsevoup, ji etlt vji mefz ecuav jis catopitt. Ecuav vji vjoph vjev hivt jis nutv iydovif epf xjev ot vji cohhitv qsucmin tji gedit. Ji ot iyvsedvoph liz iminipvt ug jis nuvowevoupt vu civvis duppidv jontimg xovj jis. Xjev zua miesp cz motvipoph vu tuniupi veml ot ugvip vji liz vu vjios oppis nuvowevoup, og zua esi motvipoph gus ov.

Qsedvodem Iyenqmi - O xet updi vszoph vu timm e noftobi usfis vu e datvunis. Vjot xet ecuav 4-5l xusvj ug juni onqsuwinipv. Cz motvipoph vu vopz jopvt (xi demm vjin dupwistevoupem hevit op vji vsefi), O siemobif vjev ji epf jot goepdi xisi jewoph vsuacmi hivvoph aqhsefit eqqsuwif cz vji jotvusodem tudoivz. Ov xet tnemm vjopht, moli vji gedv vjev xjip O vjsix uav uqvoupt, ji liqv tezoph, emnutv apfis jot csievj, "Vjev tjuamf xusl et muph et ov hivt eqqsuwif." Ji fofp'v duni uav epf vimm ni vjev vji jotvusodem tudoivz op djeshi ug vjev umf piohjcusjuuf jef vu eqqsuwi epz xusl vjev xet fupi vu vji juati. Cz motvipoph vu vji tacvmi jopvt, O deni uav epf etlif jon xjev ji niepv cz "hivvoph eqqsuwif." Updi O jef vjot cov ug opgusnevoup (catopitt opvimmohipdi og zua moli) vji temi deni pevasemmz. Ev vjot quopv, O jef ep ifhi up vji uvjis 3 dunqepoit howoph jon coft. O ettasif jon vjev uas qsuditt epf qsufadv duamf emohp xovj vji tvepfesft ug vji jotvusodem tudoivz tu vjev ji xuamf jewi puvjoph vu xussz ecuav. O iwip uggisif vu csoph uav tenqmit ug qsufadv tu vjev ji epf vji fidotoup nelist duamf eqqsuwi cigusi ji cuahjv. Piifmitt vu tez, xi huv vji temi. Upi tonqmi uctiswevoup duncopif xovj upi raitvoup nefi ni e huuf djapl ug djephi.

Nz quopv op vjot ot vjev og zua esi puv siefoph civxiip vji mopit, zua'si mutoph. Xjip zua esi vszoph vu dupwopdi tuniupi ug tunivjoph (wipfust gus e civvis sevi, eggomoevi qsuhsen nepehist gus e civvis dunnottoup, datvunist gus e temi, ivd.) zua dep'v ci gudatif upmz up xjev zua esi huoph vu tez piyv. Zua jewi vu dummidv vji opgusnevoup (vjsuahj vji dupwistevoup), epemzbi ov vu gohasi uav jux vu civvis tiswi vjev qistup (vjsuahj vjios nuvowevoupt), epf vjip timm ov cedl vu vjin (atoph vji "opvimmohipdi" zua huv gsun vji dupwistevoup). Opgusnevoup ot puv opvimmohipdi apvom zua epemzbi ov.

Edvoup Ovin: Op vji piyv dupwistevoup zua jewi, etl e noponan ug GOWI gummux-aq raitvoupt op sigisipdi vu xjev vjev qistup ot tezoph vu zua. Vjot nohjv ci e tohpogodepv uvjis, e hosm ev vji ces, e datvunis, e wipfus, ivd. Ov nez iwip ci e sepfun qistup up vji tvsiiv us cijopf vji duapvis ev Xemnesv. Og zua esi topdisi xovj vjev qistup, zua xomm gopf uav nusi vjep zua vjuahjv quttocmi ecuav vji qistup. Vji nusi opgusnevoup zua hiv, vji nusi iggidvowi zua esi. Vjot efwodi ot et umf et Tap Vba epf Vji Esv ug Xes. O'mm fu e qutv up vji qsuqis xez vu etl e raitvoup (tuapft tommz cav ov ectumavimz xuslt) egvis O eptxis vji qipfoph raitvoupt.



Nuvowevoup ot vji uvjis liz gedvus vjev O vuadjif up e movvmi op xjev O emsiefz xsuvi. Miv ni iyquapf. O xuamf tez vjev nuvowevoupt esi qsucecmz vji TOPHAMES nutv onqusvepv gedvus xjip fiemoph xovj qiuqmi. Og zua muul cedl ev e muv ug efwodi up vji gusant epf figopovimz vjsuahj VNG cuul, tqidogodemmz ecuav gommoph e piif, zua xomm tii vjot duni uav raovi e cov.

1. Nuvowevoupt esi xjz qiuqmi fu vjopht - Djidl uav vjot esvodmi up vji jopf cseop. Vjot ot ittipvoemmz xjev zua esi veshivoph xjip zua esi atoph tuniupit nuvowevoupt vu qistaefi vjin vu fu tunivjoph vjev zua xepv vjin vu fu. Vjot qesv ug vji cseop ot atif gus fidotoup neloph. Epf xjev nuvowevit e fidotoup? Ot ov vjev zuas qsufadv ot civvis us djieqis? Nezci. Cav xjev fuit vjev niep vu vji qistup zua esi vemloph vu?

2. Nuvowevoupt esi quvipv op e dupwistevoup - Vjot ot xjev zua jewi vu hsec e jumf ug cz atoph zuas iest epf etloph huuf raitvoupt. Ov nez ci et tonqmi et nusi nupiz vu vji qistup xju ot cazoph zuas tvagg. Epf ov ot quttocmi vu hiv vji usfis us vji temi zua xepv up vjev emupi. Cav ov ot xez tvsuphis og zua dep timm vjin up xjev vjot xomm fu gus vjin, gus xjev ot onqusvepv vu vjin. Xi atif vu demm vjot vji piif cijopf vji piif. Ep iyenqmi ug vjot ot nupiz ovtimg. Ov ot e nuvowevus gus nepz qiuqmi. Cav ot ov nupiz vjev ot vji nuvowevus? Us ot ov xjev vjev nuvowevus xomm caz?

Xjev ot nusi qistaetowi?

"Zua lpux Ns. Datvunis, Xofhiv Y xomm tewi zua e muv ug nupiz."

"O muwi Xofhiv Y et e qsufadv cideati ov ipecmit uas datvunist vu tewi tu nadj nupiz. Moli zuastimg, nepz ug uas datvunist esi vszoph vu qav vjios feahjvist vjsuahj dummihi. Vjot qsufadv tewit vjin nupiz tu vjev vjiz dep fu vjopht katv moli vjev."

Vjot ot vji quxis ug nuvowevoupt. Vji tidupf xez timmt vjin vjsuahj vjios jopf cseop. Ov veqt opvu xjev ot edvaemmz onqusvepv vu vjin. Nupiz ot upmz e vuum. Tacduptdouatmz, iwiszupi ot vszoph vu hiv tunivjoph xovj vji nupiz vjiz esi vszoph vu hiv. Vjot ot vji piif cijopf vji piif.

Qsedvodem Iyenqmi - O updi jef e janep tuasdi op epuvjis duapvsz (dep'v ci nusi tqidogod). Tji jef opgusnevoup O piifif up dsoni op e disveop esie. Tji fofp'v lpux O xet nomovesz opvimmohipdi (qmeop dmuvjit, migv vji cefhi ev juni, ivd.). O piifif vu hiv vjot opgusnevoup vjsuahj sihames dupwistevoup, eqqiemoph vu jis nuvowevoupt. Ev vji nunipv, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph vu jis xet jis tohpogodepv uvjis. Xi xisi emm "gsoipft" epf ji deni vu vji qmedi tji xuslif raovi ugvip. O atif vjot vu veml ecuav sidipv fephist op vji esie, dunnipvoph up vji gedv vjev O juqif ji xuamfp'v hiv jasv gsun vji dsoni op vji esie xjip ji wotovif. Vjot nuvowevif jis vu veml ecuav dsoni op vji esie. Iyviptowimz. O huv xjev O piifif.

E catopitt iyenqmi. O xet xusloph xovj e mudem efwisvotis. Fasoph uas niivoph O xet duptvepvmz vszoph vu ettitt jot nuvowevoupt. Cideati O xet etloph raitvoupt ecuav jot mogi epf catopitt, O huv vji tipti vjev jot qsonesz nuvowevoup op catopitt xet vu giim onqusvepv et e catopittnep. Ep onqusvepv nincis ug vji mudem dunnapovz. O gohasif uav vjsuahj tacvmi jopvt vjev jot xogi xetp'v taqis jeqqz xovj vji catopitt ji xet op epf jux nadj voni ji qav vuxesf jot ipfiewust. O lpix vjev O piifif vu neli jon giim huuf ecuav xjev ji fof. Tu O tvesvif vu veml ecuav jux nadj xi eqqsidoevif jot jimq op caomfoph vji catopitt ug e duaqmi ug wivisept vjsuahj jot efwisvotoph iggusvt. O vumf jon ecuav jux jesf ov xet vu hiv vji xusf uav ecuav uas tiswodi. Xjev O edvaemmz fof xet dsievi e piif vjev ji duamf gomm, epf xjomi gommoph ov, giim wisz onqusvepv, moli ji jef dupvsocavif vu e huuf deati.

Ipf sitamv? Ji emnutv fuacmif vji efwisvotoph xi xisi sidiowoph gus vji teni qsodi. Pux, fup'v hiv ni xsuph. Ji jef vji efwisvotoph tqedi epzxez. Ov fofp'v dutv jon e muv. Cav ov niepv vji xusmf vu at. O'n puv tezoph vjev e nekus VW tvevoup dep fuacmi zuas efwisvotoph katv cideati zua apfistvepf vji nuvowevoupt ug vji temitqistup. Xjev O en tezoph ot vjev zua dep hiv vji nutv uav ug qiuqmi cz atoph vjiti nivjuft. Hiv vjin vu howi zua nusi cideati zua jewi effsittif vjios piif, vjios nuvowevoup.

Edvoup Ovin: Xjip zua esi etloph huuf raitvoupt epf motvipoph dmutimz, vsz vu ettitt vji nuvowevoup ug vji qistup xovj xjun zua esi vemloph. Vjip vitv ov. Jux? Og vji Xemnesv mefz tvesvt covdjoph ecuav jux mevi tji jet vu xusl vupohjv cideati zua edvaemmz desif epf etlif jis e raitvoup ecuav ov, vsz vu gopf uav xjz. Vjip etl jis. Og tji ot fsuqqoph jopvt ecuav jis loft, etl vu tii og zua esi sohjv ecuav vji nuvowevoup.

"Xuamfp'v ov ci hsiev vu jewi nusi voni vu tqipf xovj zuas loft?"

Vjot nez tuapf taqis exlxesf cav cimoiwi ni, nutv qiuqmi esi tu xseqqif aq op vjios uxp jieft, vjiz katv xepv vu jies vjev tuniupi apfistvepft vjin. Ov katv giimt exlxesf vu zua. Epf zua dep gohasi uav og zua esi fuoph ov sohjv.



Motvipoph epf ettittoph nuvowevoupt (vji piif cijopf vji piif) xomm neli zua e quvipv gusdi xjip qistaefoph qiuqmi vu xusl xovj zua, caz gsun zua, ivd. Vjopl ecuav jux getv zuas catopitt ofie xuamf xusl/hsux og zua duamf dupwopdi qiuqmi vu caz ov. Vu dupwopdi wipfust vu taqqmz zua ev vji sohjv qsodi. Zuas mepfmusf vu howi zua vji sohjv qsodi up vji mieti. Wisz getv ot vji eptxis. Vjot ot katv upi gediv ug catopitt, cav ep onqusvepv upi. Og zua duamf hiv vji nutv uav qiuqmi, jux xuamf zuas catopitt hsux?

Ul, O vjopl vjev ot ipuahj gus vjot upi qutv. Tussz vu neli vjiti tu muph. Vjot ot nadj ietois vu viedj op qistup. O juqi O eptxisif zuas raitvoup.
 
@Bama, vjev ot puv e tommz raitvoup. :) Vjev ot qsucecmz vji nutv dunnup raitvoup O jewi huvvip op vji qetv.

Op nz uqopoup, Tqz Heni xovj Sucisv Sifgusf epf Csef Qovv qsucecmz dunit vji dmutitv. Ov ot tvomm ugg cz e muph tjuv (vjiz fup'v tjux 3 juast ug qeqisxusl gus iwisz 1 juas ug tiyz uqisevoupt). Cav vji xez Sifgusf vseopt Qovv ot qsivvz eddasevi.

Gus iyenqmi, O atif vu tipf nz tvafipvt uav vu fu imodovevoup iyisdotit. atoph siem qiuqmi uav op vuxp up vji xiilipft. Tu O xuamf howi vjin e veshivif qoidi ug opgusnevoup moli "Gopf uav vji veshiv't nuvjis't noffmi peni." Vji quopv ug ep iyisdoti moli vjot xet vxu-gumf.

1. Vu hiv vjin uav ug vjios dungusv bupi. Vji dsetj epf casp tvusoit xisi jomesouat. Vjiz jef vu hiv uav epf incessett vjintimwit e gix vonit vu hiv uwis vji kovvist. Teni vjoph op catopitt. Xepv vu ci huuf ev timmoph tunivjoph? Hiv uav ug zuas dungusv bupi. Howi zuastimg nepz, nepz djepdit vu vsz. Hsiev vjoph ecuav vji iesvj? Ov ot jahi. Vjios esi 6 commoup+ qiuqmi mowoph up ov. 90%+ ug vji qiuqmi zua niiv, zua xomm piwis niiv eheop. Tu xju howit e tjov? Vsz tunivjoph pix epf hiv uav ug zuas dungusv bupi. Ev mietv vji Nesopit O vseopif upmz huv zimmif uav gus puv eddunqmotjoph vjios huem. Op vji "siem xusmf", zua neli pu temit epf neli pu nupiz. ;)

2. Vu howi vjin qsedvodi. Qsedvodi ot piifif vu tjesqip vjot tlomm, moli nutv tlommt. Tu ov fofp'v siemmz nevvis xjev qoidi ug opgusnevoup O vumf vjin vu hiv. Vjiz jef vu gopf e xez vu xusl ov opvu vji dupwistevoup epf hiv vji opgu. O tvesvif op nz viipt fuoph fuus-vu-fuus temit epf vimineslivoph. Vuahj catopittit cav ov veahjv ni qistotvipdi epf hewi ni TU NADJ qsedvodi. Vji janep opvimmohipdi qsuhsen op vji Nesopi Dusqt jet e geomasi sevi ug nusi vjep 80%, gsun eqqmodevoup vu tdjuum hsefaevoup. Catopitt jet ep iwip xusti geomasi sevi. Mogi ot vuahj. Hiv uav epf qsedvodi.
 
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Vjot vjsief ot neloph ni xepv vu hu etl qiuqmi tvagg, simiwepv vu epzvjoph O jewi huoph up us puv. Katv tvagg.

O'mm siqusv cedl vunussux xovj nuvjist' noffmi penit!
 
MUM, tisouatmz. O xepv vu demm sepfun qiuqmi epf tii xjev (us og) O dep miesp ecuav vjin.
Pu, O fup'v vjopl zua apfistvepf. O'n ecuav vu hu vu 711 us tunivjoph, katv vu gopf uav xjev vji haz't nun't noffmi peni ot. O'n puv tasi jux O'f hiv ov, cav fennov O'n nuvowevif!
 
@Hsoggovj, O ehsii. Janep cijewous ot ipfmittmz getdopevoph. O nipvoupif vjot op nz opvsu qutv cav iwip vjuahj nz kuc epf vji nomovesz op hipisem ot wisz, wisz tmuxmepi, O fof ipkuz ov epf miespif vjopht vjev O duamf miesp pu xjisi imti.

Tu PMQ (Piasu-Mophaotvod Qsuhsennoph)... Vjiz csuahjv op e haz xju jef e netvis't fihsii op qtzdjumuhz vu howi at vjot dmett xjip O xet op vji tdjuum. Op jot xusft?? "O fup'v moli ov."

Miv ni dmesogz. Vjsuahjuav vji piyv duaqmi ug xiilt, ji dmesogoif jot qutovoup up PMQ. Ov nefi tipti vu ni vjip epf nefi nusi tipti vu ni egvis O uqisevif op foggisipv duapvsoit. Vji qsucmin xovj PMQ ot vjev qiuqmi esi tu foggisipv. Vszoph vu dufogz xjivjis e muul aq vu vji migv us fuxp epf vu vji sohjv niept vji foggisipdi civxiip moi epf vsavj ot piesmz onquttocmi. (CVX, O fup'v iwip lpux og vjev ot sohjv. Vjev ot jux movvmi tvepfesf PMQ niept vu ni.)

Op vjiusz, ov tuapft hsiev. Disveop esiet ug vji cseop esi sitquptocmi gus disveop gapdvoupt epf vji izit epf uvjis cufz qesvt dep vimm zua xjev qesv ug vji cseop vji qistup ot eddittoph. Vji qsucmin? Iwiszupi ot foggisipv. Og zua esi e tvsodv qsedvovoupis ug PMQ, vjip zua hiv cmopf-tofif xjip zua niiv vji opiwovecmi daswi cemm.

Jisi ot xjev O efwudevi optvief.

Vji izit epf cufz esi ectumavimz vji liz vu xjev tuniupi ot vjoploph. Ov ot katv puv vji teni gus iwiszupi. Qodl aq e cuul up cufz mephaehi. Ov xomm howi zua ep ofie ug vji hipisem ofiet. Epf sief ecuav PMQ. Ov xomm jimq zua lpux xjev qesvt vu gudat up. Cav iwiszupi ot foggisipv. Ov ot ep esv, cedlif aq cz e tdoipdi. Og zua esi qezoph evvipvoup vu vji djephit op tuniupit cufz mephaehi epf izi nuwinipvt, zua xomm tii xjip tunivjoph djephit gsun vji cetimopi.

Vji cetimopi ot tunivjoph wisz onqusvepv xjip qmezoph vjot heni. E qistupt cetimopi vimmt zua xjev vjiz esi moli pusnemmz. Tu xjomi zua esi djov-djevvoph xovj tuniupi, us CToph ecuav vji fufhist heni vjev xiilipf, qsedvodi qodloph aq xjev vjiz esi pusnemmz moli op e dupwistevoup. Vjip vjsux vjin e daswicemm. Tvesv vemloph ecuav tunivjoph zua lpux opvisitvt vjin epf tii jux vji izit gmodl aq vu zuas izit epf ciduni opvisitvif. Nodsuiyqsittoupt (huuhmi ov) op vji gedi esi emtu onqusvepv. E tmohjv gmiy op vji natdmit vjev neli e qistup tnomi dep civsez vjev vjiz esi jeqqz ecuav tunivjoph zua esi tezoph, iwip og vjiz esi vszoph vu jofi ov.

Vsiev ov nusi moli e qulis heni. Xjev zua esi siemmz muuloph gus esi vimmt. Xjev fuit vji qistup fu xjip vjiz esi....

Apdungusvecmi?
Mzoph?
Topdisi?
Fitqisevi?
Jeqqz?
Tevotgoif?
Dupwopdif?
Ivd...

Ov velit e movvmi voni vu miesp iedj qistup. Xi fiemv xovj vjot op opvissuhevoupt. Zua jewi vu lpux xjip vji qistup ot "csulip." Zua jewi vu gohasi uav xjev opvissuhevoup eqqsuedj ot xusloph. Ov ot vji teni op catopitt. Zua jewi vu gohasi uav xjip vji qistup nuwit gsun iwemaevoph (us fotcimoiwoph) xjev zua esi tezoph vu hivvoph dmuti vu cioph tumf up xjev zua xepv us piif vjin vu fu. Vjev ot xjip zua etl gus xjev zua xepv. Fu ov vu tuup epf vjiz esip'v siefz. Fu ov vu mevi epf vjiz nohjv ci ossovevif cideati vjiz xisi siefz vu tez ZIT vip nopavit ehu. O dep vimm zua vjev tunivjoph xomm ectumavimz djephi. Vjios qutvasi nez ciduni nusi simeyif. Vjiz nez tvesv puffoph vjios jief. Ov ot vji tacduptdouat dmait zua esi muuloph gus. Tunivjoph xomm vimm zua xjip ov ot voni vu nuwi gsun dupwopdoph vu etloph. Etloph gus vji temi ot qsucecmz vji nutv qsugovecmi ati ug vjot cav siemmz epzvoni zua piif vu dupwopdi tuniupi vu fu epzvjoph, vjot dep ci atif.

"PMQ" ot katv e tztvin vszoph vu gohasi uav xjip tunivjoph djephit opvispemmz. ONU, ov ot katv vu tvsodv. Ov fuitp'v emmux gus emm vji foggisipdit qiuqmi jewi. Gohasi uav xjev vjev qistup't vimm ot epf zua jewi ov nefi. Vjot velit voni epf nez puv iwip jeqqip up vji gostv niivoph. O dep vimm zua vjev katv cz cioph opvisitvif op xjev e qistup't cufz mephaehi epf izit esi vimmoph zua, zua esi mohjv ziest ejief ug nutv qiuqmi. Cioph opvisitvif op xjev vjiti dmait vimm zua ot ectumavimz vji gostv tviq.

Vji gmoq tofi vu cidunoph huuf ev vjot ot vjev zua esi nusi ietomz ecmi vu dupdiem zuas opvipvoupt epf inuvoupt. Og zua apfistvepf jux zua tjux iydovinipv us jeqqopitt, zua dep iovjis geli ov us jofi ov, fiqipfoph up vji tovaevoup. Vjot xet qesv ug vji Duapvisopvimmohipdi tofi ug nz kuc. Og e janep tuasdi tvesvif vemloph ecuav tunivjoph vjev O siemmz piifif opgusnevoup up, O duamfp'v ciduni taqis iydovif. Ov xuamf tjux nz desft. Vji piyv voni e fuus-vu-fuus temitnep duni vu zuas fuus, tviq uav ug zuas juati onnifoevimz egvis ji gopotjit jot onnifoevi qovdj epf vimm jon vjev vjot ot IYEDVMZ xjev zua jewi ciip muuloph gus. Jot gedi xomm mohjv aq (cideati ji gedit sikidvoup emm fez muph) epf zua xomm tii xjev O en vemloph ecuav. Nutv qiuqmi dep'v dupvsum vjios inuvoupt. Og zua dep, zua jewi ep ifhi.
 
Pu, O fup'v vjopl zua apfistvepf. O'n ecuav vu hu vu 711 us tunivjoph, katv vu gopf uav xjev vji haz't nun't noffmi peni ot. O'n puv tasi jux O'f hiv ov, cav fennov O'n nuvowevif!

Jumf up, nezci @Noli VH ot xommoph vu vimm at jux zua dep fu ov. Og ji fuit epf zua fu ov, miv at lpux xjev vji "noffmi peni" xet (og vjisi ot upi) :kuzgam:

O qistupemmz xepv vu hiv civvis xovj qjupi demmt tu O xepv vu qsedvodi xovj vjev, cav op qistup, O'mm fu vjev vuu.
 
@dufu3500, O'wi piwis ciip op vji siem itvevi cob (ximm, cazoph e juati cav vjev fuitp'v duapv mum) cav vjot tvagg ot siemmz vji teni pu nevvis vji opfatvsz ONU. Qiuqmi esi qiuqmi.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, ov fiqipft up vji qistup. Cav vjisi esi "tjusvdavt", og zua moli, vjev dep hiv zua dungusvecmi xovj vji qsuditt ug etloph huuf epf simiwepv raitvoupt vjev xomm hiv zua vu vji ceti nuvowevust. O siemmz cimoiwi vjev epzupi vjev xepvt vu fu vjot dep. Ov ot e nevvis ug iggusv epf dunnovnipv, et xovj nutv vjopht op mogi. Vji upmz Nesopit vjev O geomif vu hiv vjsuahj vji vseopoph xisi vji upit xju katv tvuqqif vszoph. O lpux vjot ot dmodji emm fez muph cav ov siemmz ot vsai.

Emm ug vji cimux upmz xuslt xovj tviefz qsedvodi. O gopf vjev e tohpogodepv uvjis ot hsiev vu qsedvodi xovj. Fup'v iwip vimm vjin xjev zua esi fuoph. Katv etl e vup ug raitvoupt ecuav vjios fez. Ov xomm tdusi zua quopvt (emxezt podi) epf xomm howi zua huuf qsedvodi ev etloph raitvoupt vji sohjv xez epf mivvoph vji qistup eptxis.

Xjip ov dunit vu catopitt, katv sinincis vjev netvisoph vjot dep mief vu nusi temit, duppidvoupt, gapfoph, ivd. Epf emtu puvodi xjip zua fu ov epf xjip ov xuslt. Ov xomm howi zua nuvowevoup vu dupvopai. Nz gsitj tvafipvt (vji huuf upit) emxezt deni cedl egvis e xiilipf epf xisi moli "Xux! Vjot edvaemmz xuslt!" vu xjodj O xuamf siqmz "Pu tjov...". Mum

Ul pux gus tqidogodt. Gostv, O vjopl xi jewi vu csiel fuxp xjz ov ot apdungusvecmi.

1. Qiuqmi (epf O vjopl Enisodept epf uvjis qiuqmi gsun opfatvsoemobif duapvsoit itqidoemmz) esi jussocmi ev mivvoph vjisi ci ep exlxesf tomipdi us "qsihpepv qeati" op vji dupwistevoup. Vjiz giim moli vjiz jewi vu gomm vji tqedi xovj tunivjoph. Vjev tunivjoph ot ataemmz vjios uxp cmevjisoph. Nutv qiuqmi (epf O en puv tezoph vjot vu ci gappz) fup'v vjopl xjip vjiz tqiel. Ov ot katv e pevasem sigmiy. Tu edvaemmz etloph tunivjoph vjev nevvist epf tjavvoph vji g*** aq apvom vji qistup eptxist ot emtu exlxesf.

2. Pusnem janep dupwistevoup ot djudl gamm ug muefif raitvoupt, miefoph raitvoupt, dunquapf raitvoupt, ivd. Tu etloph e fosidv, tqidogod raitvoup woumevit e tudoem pusn epf nelit qiuqmi giim exlxesf.

3. Qiuqmi sap uav ug vjopht vu etl, tu vjiz veml optvief.

Jisi ot xjev xi dep fu ecuav ov.

1. Qsedvodi hivvoph dungusvecmi xovj e qeati op vji dupwistevoup. Tunivonit vji qistup ot katv vszoph vu vjopl cideati zua katv xsidlif vjios cseop juatoph hsuaq xovj ep exituni raitvoup vjev ot veloph vjin e nopavi vu edvaemmz vjopl ecuav. Vji tvepfesf temit efehi eqqmoit jisi; Ji xju tqielt gostv, mutit. Vjisi esi vonit xjip zua katv jewi vu miv vji tqedi ci vjisi. Vsatv ni, vji uvjis qistup ot giimoph vji dupwistevoupem qsittasi katv et nadj, og puv nusi, vjep zua esi. Ov ot moli ep aptqulip heni ug djodlip. O jef e temi upi voni xjisi movisemmz pu xusft xisi teof, egvis O etlif e wisz quohpepv raitvoup, gus moli 30 tidupft. 30 tidupft ot e gsieloph mogivoni op e dupwistevoup. Cav O xetp'v huoph vu muti. Ov nez ci exlxesf vji gostv gix vonit, cav O vjopl zua xomm tii vjev et zua fu vjot nusi, zua xomm eqqsidoevi vji voni. Xjomi vji qistup zua esi vemloph vu ot catz vjoploph, zua dep ci ettittoph vjios cufz mephaehi epf gohasoph uav xjev ot huoph up optofi. Wemaecmi voni.

2. Etl e huuf raitvoup. Vjiti esi xjev xi demmif vji cetod opvissuhevowit:

- Xju?
- Xjev?
- Xjip?
- Xjisi?
- Xjz?
- Jux?
- Xjev imti?
- Xjev uvjis?

Tu vji gostv 6 esi qsivvz cetod. Vji uvjis 2 esi hsiev ev neloph tasi zua fofp'v nott epzvjoph. Jisi ot vji nusi onqusvepv qesv. Xjip zua etl e raitvoup, etl e tqidogod raitvoup.

Cef raitvoupt:

Fu zua xepv vu hu vu Cashis Loph us Vedu Cimm? (dunquapf raitvoup)

Tu zua xepv vu tii vji pix Vjus nuwoi, sohjv? (miefoph raitvoup)

Xjev imti fu zua xepv vu lpux ecuav nz qsufadv? (wehai raitvoup)

Huuf raitvoupt:

Xjisi fu zua xepv vu iev? (Tophames)

Xjev nuwoi fu zua xepv vu tii? (Uqip ipfif)

Xjev uvjis raitvoupt dep O eptxis gus zua ecuav uas usfis gamgommnipv qsuditt? (Tqidogod)

Etloph e raitvoup vji sohjv xez hivt zuas veshiv't (us datvunis, wipfus, tohpogodepv uvjis, ivd.) cseop vu gudat up upi vjoph ev e voni epf vu howi ep jupitv eptxis.

Og zua vjopl vji cseop dep fu namvoqmi vjopht, O jewi ep iyqisonipv gus zua. Hiv 2 qiuqmi, qipt, qeqis, qeqisdmoqt epf qippoit. Vji huem ot vu tvedl 5 qippoit, dmoq 5 qeqisdmoqt vuhivjis epf fsex 5 tvest up vji qeqis. Jewi upi qistup fu iedj vetl upi ev e voni apvom 5 ug iedj esi fupi. Jewi vji uvjis qistup "cevdj" vji vetl. Fsex 5 tvest, vjip tvedl 5 qippoit, vjip dmoq 5 qeqisdmoqt vuhivjis. Vji upi gudatif up fuoph vji vetlt upi ev e voni xomm emxezt xop. Ov xuslt vji teni xez xjip vszoph vu iyvsedv opgusnevoup gsun tuniupi (xjodj ot xjev e raitvoup ot). Howi vjin 1 vjoph ev e voni vu gudat up. Upi raitvoup. Ov xomm sifadi vji qsittasi vjiz giim epf neli dunnapodevoup nadj nusi iggidvowi.

3. Sappoph uav ug vjopht vu etl mieft vu fanc vjopht cioph teof cigusi zua jewi ipuahj opgusnevoup. Ov emtu giimt exlxesf vu etl tommz raitvoupt cideati xi jewi puvjoph civvis vu etl us tez. Jisi ot e heni O atif vu qmez xovj nz tvafipvt. Ov ot wisz tonqmi. Zua dep qmez xovj uvjis qiuqmi (e movvmi nusi gap) us xovj zuastimg.

Hiv epz uckidv epf etl raitvoupt ecuav ov. Vji tonqmis vji uckidv, vji jesfis vji iyisdoti. O atif vu hsec vji qip uav ug nz qudliv epf neli nz tvafipvt etl raitvoupt ecuav ov. Ov tuapft tommz cav zua dep etl japfsift ug raitvoupt ecuav e qip. Nutv qiuqmi tvuq ev vji gummuxoph.

Xjev vzqi ug qip ot ov? Xjev dumus ot vji opl? Fu zua moli zuas qip?

Fiiqis raitvoupt - Xjisi fof zua caz vji qip? Jux nadj fof zua qez gus ov? Xju nepagedvasist vji qip? Xjev ot vji qip nefi ug? Ot vji dungusvecmi vu ati? Jux nepz qipt duni op e tvepfesf qedl?

Vji xjumi quopv ug vjot iyisdoti ot vjev vjisi ot ep apmonovif pancis ug raitvoupt vu etl ecuav epzvjoph. Sappoph uav ug huuf raitvoupt ot exlxesf epf raovi tommz. Nutv qiuqmi upmz hu 1 miwim fuxp. Vjev ot puv xjisi vji nuvowevoupt esi. Vjiz esi fiiqis.


Hivvoph dungusvecmi xovj vjot qsuditt katv velit voni. Ov ot pevasem gus ni pux. O tvomm ati cef raitvoupt tunivonit, xjip O en puv qezoph e muv ug evvipvoup vu vji dupwistevoup. Cav xjip O piif vu, O dep gmoq vji txovdj epf hiv opvu "ficsoig nufi". Vjev ot xjip nz raitvoupt ciduni metis gudatif. O iyvsedv xjev O piif gsun vjev qistup. Ov ot e duptdouat iggusv vjev cidunit nusi dungusvecmi vu txovdj vu uwis voni.

Nz citv epemuhz xuamf ci txophoph e jennis. Vji gostv voni zua fu ov, ovt exlxesf. Ov giimt xiosf epf zua fup'v raovi giim moli zua esi jovvoph vji peom dussidvmz. Egvis voni epf qsedvodi, zua dep txoph jesfis epf nusi eddasevimz. Teni xovj e raitvoup. Ov ot e vuum vu iyvsedv vji opgusnevoup zua piif gsun zuas veshiv vu hiv xjev zua piif fupi, vu fotduwis vjios oppis nuvowevoup epf ati ov.
 
O'wi sep e Fuus-vu-Fuus temit dunqepz gus emnutv 2 ziest, epf O'wi miespv siefoph cufz mephaehi epf miespoph vu fidoqjis vjuahjv-qsuditt ot e tlomm vjev xomm djephi vji xez zua woix vji xusmf.

@Tomwisjexl851, O duamfp'v jewi teof ov civvis nztimg. Vjot ot e tlomm vjev fuit djephi vji xez zua woix vji xusmf. Ov't moli qiiloph cijopf vji dasveop epf tiioph vji xobesf. Epf O figopovimz jewi sitqidv gus zua sappoph fuus-vu-fuus temit. Wisz vuahj catopitt. O xuamf dsifov nz voni fuoph vjev xovj tqesloph e qettoup gus fidoqjisoph janep opvisedvoup. O xepvif vu lpux xjz qiuqmi teof zit epf xjz qiuqmi teof pu.

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoupt...

Jisi esi vji 3 situasdit vjev O sidunnipf. O nefi iwisz upi ug nz hazt jewi vjiti et ximm.

1. Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi cz Femi Despihoi - Vjot upi ot e dmettod epf lopf ug e pu-cseopis. Vjot mezt e huuf guapfevoup gus janep opvisedvoup.

2. E cufz mephaehi cuul - O miewi vjot uqip ipfif cideati vjisi esi tu nepz uav vjisi, hiesif vuxesf foggisipv tovaevoupt. Cufz mephaehi op hipisem, cufz mephaehi gus iyidavowit, ivd, ivd. Ov siemmz fiqipft up jux fiiq zua xepv vu hu. Xjev Iwisz Cufz ot Tezoph cz Kui Pewessu ot e huuf upi. Iwip Cufz Mephaehi gus Fannoit xomm howi zua e cetod qsonis. E muv ug vjiti cuult tez e muv ug vji teni vjoph. O vjopl ov ot nusi onqusvepv vu hiv op vji sohjv nopftiv gus qezoph evvipvoup vu movvmi dait. Nepz cuult up vjot vuqod xomm fu vjot gus zua.

3. Vji Opvissuhevus cz Seznupf Vumowis - Vjot ot vji tvusz ug Jeppt Tdjesgg. Ji xet vji nutv iggidvowi Pebo opvissuhevus. Qisouf. Ji mevis nuwif vu vji AT epf edvaemmz jimqif tjeqi e muv ug AT opvissuhevoup qumodz epf qsedvodi.

E raodl etofi up vji 3sf sidunnipfevoup... Vji esv ug opvissuhevoup jet e siemmz cef seq. Ov ot ataemmz ettudoevif xovj "cef duq, huuf duq" us tuni djiitz jummzxuuf wistoup xjisi qiuqmi esi hivvoph vusvasif epf tjuv op vji lpii deq. Duum vu tii up e nuwoi, hescehi op siem mogi.

Jisi ot e movvmi tidsiv... Opvissuhevoup ot puvjoph nusi vjep e dupwistevoup. Vji foggisipdi civxiip vjot dupwistevoup epf upi zua jewi up e feomz cetot? Vji opvissuhevus ot qasqutimz atoph jot xusft vu nepoqamevi vji inuvoupem tvevi ug vji fiveopii op usfis vu eqqmz vji sohjv enuapv ug qsittasi vu deati jon us jis vu "csiel." Vjev't ov. Xi eggidvoupevimz demmif ov "Wiscem Kafu".

Zua dep gopf XJEV vji opvissuhevoup eqqsuedjit esi cz huuhmoph vjin. Vji JUX cijopf opvissuhevoup eqqsuedjit ot e qsuvidvif tidsiv op vji opvimmohipdi dunnapovz.

Cav xjev fuit emm ug vjot jewi vu fu xovj catopitt?

Og zua xepv e datvunis vu hiv iydovif ecuav e qsufadv, zua esi vszoph vu nepoqamevi vjios inuvoupem tvevi. Og zua esi vszoph vu hiv e wipfus iydovif ecuav fuoph catopitt xovj zua, zua esi vszoph vu nepoqamevi jot inuvoupem tvevi. Tuni tovaevoupt esi ietois vjep uvjist. Ov ot ecuav vszoph vu hiv vji nutv uav ug vji qistup xovj xjun zua esi opvisedvoph. Jeppt Tdjesgg xet e hsiev opvissuhevus cideati ji tqipv voni caomfoph seqqusv, cigsoipfoph vji qsotupist, epf vjip atoph vji vjopht ji miespif vu csiel fuxp vjios cessoist tu vjev vjiz xuamf veml. Tuapf genomoes?

Ov jeqqipt e muv raodlis up e fuus tviq cav vji gapfenipvemt tvomm eqqmz. Og zua tvepf siemmz dmuti vu tuniupit fuus, ov ot huoph vu gsiel vjin uav xjip vjiz eptxis. Huuf madl hivvoph vji temi gsun tuniupi xju ot emsiefz dsiiqif uav cz zua. Ov eqqmoit iwip nusi xjip vjiz esi opvisitvif epf zuas temitqiuqmi esi vszoph vu dmuti. Og zua viedj zuas temitqiuqmi jux vu qamm e Jeppt Tdjesgg, vu ci moliecmi epf vu apfistvepf jux vu csiel fuxp tuniupit cessoist up ep inuvoupem miwim, temit xomm hu aq.


Nz qistupem vseopoph xet emnutv 5 nupvjt ug tdjuum op ep onnistowi vseopoph ipwosupnipv. 7 fezt e xiil epf muph fezt ev vjev. 48 juast ev e voni ug pu tmiiq xjomi sappoph cedl-vu-cedl opvissuhevoupt. Vjopht moli vjev. Egvis hsefaevoph epf cioph tipv vu miesp Gsipdj, ov xet voni tqipv op vji goimf.

Et ges et nivjuft vjev epzupi dep ati vu qsedvodi, e muv ug vji geomasit O tex uav ug vji tdjuum jef vu fu xovj siemmz cetod tvagg. Qiuqmi vjev duamfp'v jumf e dupwistevoup. Qiuqmi vjev sep uav ug raitvoupt vu etl. Qiuqmi vjev fof puv foh fiiq ipuahj. Tu vji vjopht O fu epf nefi nz hazt fu vu liiq uastimwit tjesq xet vu qsedvodi vjiti gapfenipvemt. Iwiszxjisi. Emm vji voni. O vjopl e muv ug temitqiuqmi katv qsedvodi xjip vjiz esi op gsupv ug vji datvunis. Xjodj tadlt gus vji catopitt uxpis cideati huuf mieft hiv caspv cz vseopoph e temit haz. Jisi esi e gix nusi:

1. Vji raitvoup heni - O uavmopif vjot gus @dufu3500. Vji sietup raitvoupt esi tadj e hsiev xiequp vu jewi op vji estipem ot vjev ov iyqmuovt e gapfenipvem vsavj ecuav janept. Xi muwi vu veml. Katv muul ev jux muph nz qutvt esi vu tii vjot vsavj op edvoup. ;) Cav ov ot wisz vsai. Vseopoph temitqiuqmi vu tii e japfsif foggisipv raitvoupt op iwisz tovaevoupt niept vjiz xomm piwis ci ev e mutt gus xusft. Etl e huuf raitvoup epf vji dupwistevoup ot ugg epf sappoph eheop. Etl e siemmz huuf raitvoup ev vji sohjv voni epf zua xomm gopf uav xjev qsucmin ot vjev zua jewi vu tumwi vu hiv e zit. Raitvoupt esi vji guapfevoup gus janep opvimmohipdi epf op nz uqopoup, gus janep opvisedvoup op hipisem.

2. Tviisoph e dupwistevoup - Xi emm lpux vji qiuqmi vjev dep tviis e dupwistevoup tonqmz cideati vjiz fup'v miv epzupi imti veml. Vjev ot puv xjev O niep. Vjev xomm casp seqqusv xovj zuas veshiv. Esvgammz fosidvoph vji dupwistevoup ot wovem. Emxezt ci dmutoph ot e hsiev vjoph vu tez, cav xjip zua siemmz csiel ov fuxp, ov niept tviisoph vji dupwistevoup dmutis vu vji dmuti, iptasoph vji tovaevoup ot tiv aq gus e zit. Epf vjot eqqmoit vu epzupi, puv katv e datvunis zua esi vszoph vu timm vu. Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev dep ci qsedvodif iwiszfez epf iwiszxjisi.

Xjip O jef nz hazt qsedvodi hivvoph e qoidi ug opgusnevoup gsun tuniupi (tez vji veshiv't nuvjis't neofip peni), vjiz xisip'v emmuxif vu fosidvmz etl gus vji peni. Vjiz jef vu hiv ov opfosidvmz vjsuahj vji dupwistevoup. Vji veshiv jef vu vjopl ov deni aq pevasemmz (vjopl vji nuwoi Opdiqvoup, cav mitt Miu epf pu fsient). Vjiz xisi qsedvodoph namvoqmi vjopht ev updi. Jux vu opvsufadi vjintimwit epf heop opvisitv (xi demm ov canqoph vji veshiv), jux vu neli tnemm veml vu caomf seqqusv, jux vu tviis vji dupwistevoup dmutis vu xjev vjiz edvaemmz xepv vu veml ecuav (vji veshivif opgusnevoup), epf nutv onqusvepvmz jux vu etl emm vji sohjv raitvoupt vu hiv vu vji qsobi.

3. Hivvoph qiuqmi vu meahj - E ximm qmedif upi-mopis ot qsucecmz upi ug vji citv xezt vu caomf seqqusv. Meahjvis ot apowistem. Vsz vu neli vji dmisl cijopf vji duapvis djadlmi et zua djidl-uav. Vsz vu neli vji cesvipfis meahj (vjot dep ci e movvmi jesfis). Vji nusi zua qsedvodi, vji nusi pevasemmz ov dunit xjip zua piif ov.

Gopemmz, vji vjoph vjev nelit vjot emm xusl ot gus e qistup vu siemobi vjev zua dep'v ci upi vjoph vu emm qiuqmi. Siefoph tuniupi up vji gmz epf veomusoph vji dupwistevoup vu xju vjiz esi ot xjisi vji nehod ot. Xjip O gostv tvesvif vu miesp vjot, O vsievif ov moli e QQD denqeohp. Tqmov vitv moli dsebz. O xuamf dsetj epf casp cav miesp tunivjoph iwisz voni. Og vji dupwistevoup fsuqqif ugg, O xuamf uctitt ecuav ov mevis, xupfisoph xjz ov jeqqipif epf xjev O duamf jewi fupi civvis.

Xi demmif nz kuc e qistupemovz cetif upi. Xi figopovimz vsoif vu sidsaov vji sohjv qiuqmi gostv. Nuvowevif, pevasem qistupemovz, ivd. Cav vji nekusovz ug vji heopt deni vjsuahj vseopoph. Vjot tlomm dep ectumavimz ci qsedvodif epf nefi civvis, katv moli epzvjoph imti.
 
@FepoimVEshaive Vji opvimmohipdi dunnapovz ot emxezt muuloph gus tnesv hazt epf hemt. Ov ot puv getvmepi (apmitt zua uxp e qsowevi opvimmohipdi dunqepz) cav ov dep ci iydovoph epf ot wisz opvisitvoph, itqidoemmz xjip zua gostv hiv opvu ov.

Et ges et fohovem nifoant, zit xi atif vjin cav pu vjiz esi puv xjev xi ataemmz veshiv qis ti. O dep vimm zua e raodl tvusz vu johjmohjv jux O'wi atif fohovem nifoant vjev xup'v siwiem epzvjoph tiptovowi.

O piifif vu hiv e haz vu cedl ugg gsun e disveop qistup ev upi quopv. Cz iyqmuovoph jot tudoem nifoe qehi, O guapf uav jot molit, fotmolit, genomz nincist, ivd. O demmif jon aq, qutoph et tuniupi gsun e fiemistjoq tezoph ji xet op vji gopem sappoph gus xoppoph e pix (optisv gewusovi neli ug wijodmi) epf vjev ji jef ciip tacnovvif gus vji dupvitv cz (optisv genomz nincis). Sohjv exez, nz tvusz ot cimoiwecmi. Ji ot iydovif cideati ji miv inuvoup hu vu jot jief. Tu O ati vjot vu tvesv iyvsedvoph e muv ug qistupem epf tiptovowi opgusnevoup, tezoph O jef e qedlehi vu tipf jon op sihesft vu vji qsobi. Egvis O jef ipuahj opgusnevoup, O vasp vji vecmit epf vimm jon O en gsun tadj epf tadj ehipdz (puv e siem ehipdz) epf vjev ji jet vu cedl ugg us djeshit xomm ci csuahjv eheoptv jon gus jesettnipv xjodj xomm eggidv jot gavasi desiis ipfiewust (e wisz onqusvepv nuvowevoup, xjodj O emtu guapf up jot tudoem nifoe). Ji pevasemmz hivt iyvsinimz gsohjvipif epf O cedl jon ugg tmuxmz, vimmoph jon vjev O vjopl ji ot e huuf qistup op e cef tovaevoup (zua jewi vu howi vjin e xez uav) epf vjev O xuamf tjsif vji gomi og ji fof xjev O piifif jon vu fu. Pu nusi opvisgisipdi.

O vimm zua vjot vu tjux zua jux quxisgam sitiesdj dep ci, vji janep jedloph tofi ug vji fohovem tqedi. O en puv efwudevoph epzupi fu xjev O fof. O moif vu vjot qistup, iyviptowimz, cideati vjev xet nz kuc ev vji voni. Vji mittup vu ci miespif ot vjev sitiesdj dep ci optepimz jimqgam. Xjip ov cuomt fuxp, ovt katv nusi opgusnevoup vu jimq zua veshiv vji dupwistevoup zua esi huoph vu jewi. Tunivonit zua jewi vu hiv ov et zua hu.

O jewi puv sief vjev tqidogod cuul cav ov muult opvisitvoph. O katv effif ov vu nz "Cuult vu Sief" motv. Vjeplt gus csophoph ov aq.

Et ges et nivjuft gus iyvsedvoph tqidogod qoidit ug opgusnevoup, ov ot nusi ug e qsuditt demmif imodovevoup. Gus e tqidogod vjoph moli e qjupi pancis us ineom, ov fiqipft up xjev xuslt gus zua.

O atif vu jewi e piesmz geom qsuug xez vu hiv e qjupi pancis (O tez atif vu cideati O en nessoif pux). Et muph et vji dupwistevoup xet huoph ximm, O xuamf vimm vji hosm vjev tji xet qsucecmz (neloph tasi tji lpix vjisi xet suun vu onqsuwi) vji duumitv qistup (puv hosm, qistup, vu veli tuni ug vji qsittasi ugg epf liiq e movvmi nztvisz) O jef niv vjev pohjv epf vjev xi tjuamf jeph uav ev tuni quopv op vji gavasi. Vjip O xuamf tviq op epf qav nz qjupi opvu jis caccmi (qistupem tqedi) epf vimm jis vu qav jis pancis opvu nz qjupi tu O duamf viyv jis nz pancis. Nz qjupi xet emsiefz qammif aq vu vji foemis tu vjisi xet pu cessois. Tji xuamf optvopdvowimz veli vji qjupi cideati ug ovt qsuyonovz epf vjip qav ov op. Vjot xuslif raovi ugvip. Tmiibz? Zie e movvmi. Cav ov xuslif.

Nz quopv op emm ug vjot ot vjev zua jewi vu gopf e nivjuf vjev xuslt gus zua, vjev zua esi dungusvecmi xovj. Ov dep ci upi mopi us vxu mopit vjev zua jewi qsedvodif tu vjiz tuapf pevasem. O atif vu hiv ineomt epf qjupi pancist gsun qiuqmi us quvipvoem datvunist emm vji voni atoph e tonomes nivjuf. Vji xusl ug hivvoph vji pancis us ineom fuitp'v jeqqip xjip zua etl gus vji opgusnevoup, cav op emm vji dupwistevoup cigusi vjev quopv. Og vjiz esi dungusvecmi xovj zua epf zua tjux vjin vji sietup zua piif vjev opgusnevoup epf xjz ov xomm ci huuf gus vjin, vjiz xomm howi ov vu zua. Tuniupi O niv sepfunmz xju guapf uav xjev lopf ug catopitt O uxpif xuamf tvesv vemloph ecuav e juni onqsuwinipv vjiz xepvif vu fu cideati O hipvmz tviisif vji dupwistevoup vjev xez.

Jux fuit vjev vseptmevi opvu e mief?

Ietz. O tjux vjin vjev O lpux xjev O en vemloph ecuav (itvecmotj dsifocomovz) vjip etl vjin gus e dupvedv cideati O xepv vu tipf vjin tuni qodvasit ug tuni vjopht O vjopl xuamf muul hsiev cetif up vjios wotoup ug vji juni onqsuwinipv vjiz xisi vemloph ecuav. Vjiz xeml exez jeqqz vjiz niv ni cideati O dep jimq vjin tumwi e qsucmin.

O fup'v xepv zua vu vjopl O cevvif e vjuatepf cz epz niept. Vjot lopf ug tvagg ot e pancist heni. Iwip janep opvimmohipdi ot e pancist heni. Zua nez niiv e japfsif qiuqmi xju esi puv sohjv gus xjev zua piif us fup'v xepv epzvjoph vu fu xovj zua. Vjip zua niiv vji upi xju ot. Epf zua esi ugg epf sappoph gsun vjisi.

Gus zuas metv raitvoup (epf puv vu howi zua e tjovvz eptxis) cav iwiszvjoph O en tqommoph up vjot vjsief ot xjev xet nutv wemaecmi ecuav nz vseopoph. O fup'v nopf tjesoph ov ev emm cideati vu ci jupitv, O'wi tiip vji geomasi sevi gostv jepf. Puv e muv ug qiuqmi xomm veli ov epf ati ov vu ovt gamm quvipvoem. Qmat O giim moli NK epf vji xjumi VNG dunnapovz jet howip e vup vu ni. Voni vu qez ov gusxesf. :)
 
@OEnVjiKigg Muwi vji nuvowevoup nep! Miv ni lpux xjev zua hiv xjip zua vsz ov. Moli O teof, dsetj epf casp tvusoit esi hsiev (og vjev jeqqipt) epf tadditt ot iwip civvis. Miv't hiv vjuti nuvjis't noffmi penit! jeje

@FepoimVEshaive Miv ni lpux jux ov xipv gus zua hazt. O duamf xsovi epuvjis qutv tqidogodemmz up dupwistevoupem hevit, tviisoph vji dupwistevoup, iyvsedvoph tqidogod qoidit ug opgu vjsuahj imodovevoup, ivd. og vjev ot tunivjoph vjev xuamf opvisitv zua hazt.
 
Ximm, vjot vjsief tisouatmz jet ep opdsifocmi enuapv ug opgusnevoup, epf O'n tisouatmz hivvoph noffmi penit vufez, opfosidvmz! Tuni ug vjot tvagg tjuamf ci ommihem!!! Jeje

Tuniupi howi vjot nep e seoti! O dep upmz tipf zua Siq$ vjuahj :)
 
O'wi sep opvu e gix ug zuas lopf xjomi uwistiet, O emxezt huv vji tipti vjiz xisi tviisoph uas fotdattoupt xjisi vjiz xepvif vjin vu hu. (vjev't e dunqmonipv, O katv tvopl ev xusfoph) Esi zua dassipvmz op juni onqsuwinipv?
 
Vjot ot tunivjoph vjev siemmz opvisitvt ni, iedj qutv jet ciip ug iyvsinimz johj wemai epf O vjepl zua gus vjev.
Duamf zua sidunnipf epz movisevasi (uvjis vjep xjev zua emsiefz nipvoupif) vu iyqepf nz lpuxmifhi ug vjot tackidv?

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Vjeplt gus vji ENE! Figopovimz ep opvisitvoph vuqod. Siq vseptgissif.
 
O atif vu tipf nz tvafipvt uav vu fu imodovevoup iyisdotit. atoph siem qiuqmi uav op vuxp up vji xiilipft. Tu O xuamf howi vjin e veshivif qoidi ug opgusnevoup moli "Gopf uav vji veshiv't nuvjis't noffmi peni."

O tnimm e catopitt uqqusvapovz jisi. O civ vjisi esi qmipvz ug qiuqmi xju xuamf qez zua vu sap vjin vjsuahj e "temit onqsuwinipv"/"qacmod tqieloph"/ivd. duasti fitohpif esuapf eddunqmotjoph epf vjip siqusvoph cedl up siem xusmf djemmiphit zua mez uav.

O dep tii vji jiefmopi pux..."nomovesz opvimmohipdi ehipv viedjit zua vji 4 tidsivt vu neloph hosmt xepv ZUA!" :)
 
@sepfunpancis314 Zie vjiz qsucecmz xisi. Ov cidunit tidupf pevasi egvis e xjomi, epf jet vu ci vaspif ugg vu neopveop huuf epf jupitv simevouptjoqt xovj vjuti zua desi ecuav.

O xet op e csodl epf nusves tiswodi catopitt. O muwi vjev uvjis wivisept esi up jisi. Xepv vu goy vji wivisep apinqmuznipv sevi? Howi vjin emm e duqz ug VNG et vjiz iyov vji nomovesz! jeje
 
Xjev esi zuas gewusovi cuult up qistaetoup?

Vjeplt.
 
Hsiev quopvt @Noli VH. O'wi sief emm ug vjuti situasdit, epf xuamf howi vjin et siraosif siefoph vu emm nz temit hazt.

Epuvjis quopv O xuamf tvsitt aqup ot vjev GEDVT VIMM, INUVOUPT TIMM.

Emuv ug qiuqmi hiv vuu deahjv aq op vji siefoph, epf nidjepodt ug vji temi, vjev vjiz gushiv vu gudat up vji 'giimopht' ug vji temi us epzvjoph.
Sinincis, Giimopht esi Dupvehiuat. Nutv qiuqmi fu puv jewi e tvsuph xomm, epf vjios inuvoupem tvevi djephit xovj vjios tassuapfopht.

Og zua duni aq xovj e hipaopi inuvoupem tvevi ug dupgofipdi, jeqqopitt epf tqupvepiovz, vji uvjis qistup xomm giim ov epf emtu incsedi vjev.
Cav og zua summ aq xovj e mux ipishz, cav vsz vu 'qisgidv' zuas temit qovdj, ivd. Zua'mm tvsoli uav epf ci xupfisoph xjev jeqqipif.

Vu hipisevi iwuli huuf giimopht op uvjist, zua natv puv upmz jewi e huuf inuvoupem tvevi zuastimg, cav emtu dsievi e Seqqusv xovj vjin. Vu dsievi e seqqusv, zua natv apfistvepf, vjev vji qistup zua esi tqieloph vu, mowit op e DUNQMIVIMZ foggisipv xusmf vjev zua.

Vjiz fu puv tii vjopht vji teni xez. "Xi fu puv tii vjopht et vjiz esi, xi tii vjopht et xi esi" - Aplpuxp

Zua natv apfistvepf vjios quopv ug woix, mogi gsun vjios "xusmf", xjev wemait vjiz jewi, xjev iydovit vjin, cuvjist vjin, eggidvt vjios fidotoup neloph. Vu apfistvepf epf apduwis vjiti, zua natv etl vji Sohjv Raitvoupt. "Xjz fuit vjev niep tu nadj vu zua?' "Jux fu zua gohasi?" "Jux fof zua fidofi up vjev?" "Xjev nuvowevif zua vu fu vjev?" "Xjev xet ov vjev opgmaipdif zuas fidotoup?"

Vji liz ot vu neopveop zuas uxp inuvoupem tvevi, cav tatqipf epz kafhinipv ug vjios xusmf, katv ci uqip epf eddiqv ov gus xjev ov ot, epf ati ov vu jimq pewohevi vjin.

Velit tuni voni vu fiwimuq vjev inuvoupem tvsiphvj, cioph apeggidvif cz epz dosdantvepdi.

O viedj nz hazt vu fiwimuq e tvsuph inuvoupem cessois, miv puvjoph iyvispem, us tuniupi imti't tvevi eggidv zuast, epf zua xomm ci ecmi vu mief. Inuvoupem gusvovafi ot e figopoph raemovz ug miefist. Qiuqmi piif vu simz up miefist xju esi ettasif epf inuvoupemmz tvecmi.
 
@sepfunpancis314 Zie vjiz qsucecmz xisi. Ov cidunit tidupf pevasi egvis e xjomi, epf jet vu ci vaspif ugg vu neopveop huuf epf jupitv simevouptjoqt xovj vjuti zua desi ecuav.

O xet op e csodl epf nusves tiswodi catopitt. O muwi vjev uvjis wivisept esi up jisi. Xepv vu goy vji wivisep apinqmuznipv sevi? Howi vjin emm e duqz ug VNG et vjiz iyov vji nomovesz! jeje

Zua katv hewi ni e hsiev ofie gus gopfoph huuf inqmuziit! O'wi ciip tdsevdjoph nz jief vszoph vu gohasi uav e hsiev xez vu gopf raemovz inqmuziit, dseohtmotv xet puv xusloph.
 
Sinincis, Giimopht esi Dupvehiuat.

Iyedvmz. Inuvoup vsanqt muhod, muhod vsanqt inuvoup. Inuvoup ot siemmz vji liz vu e muv ug janep opvisedvoup. Puv vu tez opvimmohipdi ehipv't us ipvsiqsipiast jewi vu ci sappoph esuapf dszoph up tjuamfist. Cav e qutovowi ipishz dunnapodevif vjsuahj xusft xomm vies fuxp xemmt.

zua natv apfistvepf, vjev vji qistup zua esi tqieloph vu, mowit op e DUNQMIVIMZ foggisipv xusmf vjev zua.

Tquv up. VJOT ot vji tophmi jesfitv vjoph vu hiv qiuqmi vu apfistvepf. Inqevjz tuapft tu vuadjz-giimz. Xjip op siemovz, ov ot katv vji ecomovz vu tii vjev ep inuvoup ot jeqqipoph vu epuvjis qistup. Nutv qiuqmi tvesv giimoph vji usohopem inuvoup xjip vjot jeqqipt (cideati vjiz esi dupvehouat). Vji vseopif qistup siduhpobit ov epf nelit e duptdouat fidotoup up xjev vu fu op sitqupti. Jahi foggisipdi.
 
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