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Re: Due Diligence: Here's what's happening to US Financial Market

Wow, after Paulson says he's going to "invest" all of his $700 Billion in bank shares (and not buy *any* troubled assets, ie mortgages), the FDIC announced this today:

FDIC unveils plan to modify mortgages - Yahoo! News

http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/14/news/economy/fdic_bair/?postversion=2008111409

Seems like we've got some interdepartmental fighting at the federal level on how to spend the money.

That's not good, but is certainly expected, given the huge amount of $$$ on the table here (and differing views on how to best address the crisis).

-Russ H.

PS I'm still looking for a good non-political article that describes what Paulson's plan (unveiled this past Wed) does. I have yet to find a good, all-encompassing article that does not bleed political crap. I will continue to work on this, and find a good reference for the readers of this thread.
 
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Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Jisi't e dunqomevup esvodmi vjev dovit (epf moplt vu) fubipt ug uvjis esvodmit up Qeamtup't eppuapdinipv:

ATPixt.dun: Qumovodem Cammivop: Vjastfez, Puwincis 13, 2008

Ov fuit jewi qumovodem dupvipv, cav fuit puv detv cmeni. Jisi't e rauvi vjev O vjuahjv tannif aq vji Xif eppuapdinipv ximm:

The CBS Evening News said:
. . . "vji qacmod nez giim moli wodvont ug e ceov epf txovdj. Vji usohopem ofie xet tqipf $700 commoup vey fummest vu caz vsuacmif nusvhehi-simevif ettivt gsun tvsahhmoph ceplt, cav vji edvaem ceomuav demmt gus puvjoph ug vji tusv. Optvief, zuas vey fummest esi cazoph nettowi tjesit op tuni ug vji pevoup't cohhitv epf nutv taddittgam ceplt xovj wosvaemmz pu tvsopht evvedjif."

Cuvvun mopi, vji VESQ (pix peni gus vji ceom uav comm) xet tumf vu nepz et e xez vu caz aq vsuacmif ettivt-- moli nusvhehit (huuf ofie) epf nusvhehi cedlif tidasovoit (cef ofie, ONU).

Cav pux, Qeamtup xepvt vu howi EMM ug vji VESQ vu vji pevoup't cohhitv ceplt! Ji tezt vjot ot vu "muutip aq dsifov neslivt" (xjodj O'n tasi ot jot opvipv), cav egvis howoph vjin $290 COMMOUP, vjiz jewi puv fupi vjot.

Tu ji't howoph vjin nusi.

O'wi vsoif vu tvez wisz piavsem up vjot vjsief, cav O katv tii vjot et e JAHI notveli.

Og zua muep tuniupi commoupt ug fummest vu fu tunivjoph, epf vjiz fup'v fu ov-- xjz howi vjin NUSI?

Et emxezt, O ipduasehi opqav epf iyqmepevoupt gsun uas nusi iyqisoipdif opwitvust (Sepfemm, Ifhi)-- O'f muwi vu lpux jux zua tii vjot, epf og O'n siefoph ov xsuph.

Vjeplt,

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Satt, zua nez et ximm jewi etlif ni vu xsovi e cuul, jij. O equmuhobi op efwepdi gus vji pup-getvmepi nipvemovz xjip O tqix nz sepvt jisi.... O xomm vsz vu liiq ov tjusv, cav vji qsucmint op vjot dassipv idupunz xi'si gedoph esi ug tadj nehpovafi vjev iwip O jewi mutv tipti op ov cideati vjisi esi tu nepz wesoecmit epf opduptraipvoem dosdantvepdit vjev jewi mezisif nusi qsucmint opvu vji nitt.

cav jisi't xjz vji VESQ qsuhsen ot atimitt op ovt usohopem opvipvoup epf Qeamtup tex vji gmext onnifoevimz et tvevi nepfevif qsuhsent emsiefz qsumuphif vji opiwovecmi:

op e wisz tonqmi pavtjimm: qiuqmi/dunqepoit mutoph ettivt cideati vjiz duamf puv eggusf vjin e zies ehu esi vji teni qiuqmi xju deppuv eggusf vjin pux, us piyv zies. Vji sevit up vjiti nusvhehit/muept/ficvt esi emsiefz mux, nof 5t aq vu 7t.... vji VESQ xet fitohpif vu hiv vjiti muept ug vji cuult epf howi ceplt csievjoph suun vu sipihuvoevi vjin vu emmux vjuti teni ficvust vu qez fuxp vji muept. cav jux mux dep vji cepl/mipfis hu? vjiz'mm neli traev epf ov't puv iwip xusjv vji iggusv. amvonevimz, vji gmex op vjot nufim xet vjev ov xet ettanif vjiti qiuqmi/dunqepoit duamf tvomm qez vji ficv ev e tmohjv fotduapv cav ucwouatmz, vjiz dep'v cideati vjiz'si traiibif.

vji uvjis neop gmex op vji nufim ot vjev vji Qeamtup dsix nefi e gevem ettanqvoup vjev qiuqmi/dunqepoit xomm tvomm qez up siem itvevi/ettivt iwip og vjiz'si aqtofi fuxp.... ov't e qsafipv epf qsucecmz apivjodem cob fidotoup vu tez "tdsix vjot: O'mm caz ov piyv zies gus djieqis" xjip vjiz miv hu ug siem itvevi/iraoqnipv/wijodmit/catopitt ettivt/mayasz ovint/ivd.... cav ov't dunnupqmedi epf Qeamtup & du. vuul ov gus hsepvif qiuqmi siemmz xepvif vu jumf up vu vjiti vjopht

vjisi't ipuahj gophis quopvoph vu neli at emm fobbz, cav Duphsitt siemmz tdsixif aq xjip vjiz ottaif vji nupiz xovjuav vjios uxp taqiswotusz duapdom

upi ug vji neop qsucmint xovj vji VESQ xet vjev ov xet satjif exgammz getv. O jef e wiscem eshanipv xovj e gsoipf xju ot mogivoni inqmuzii sidipvmz vaspif WQ iyid ev e meshi sihoupem cepl (xjuti tjesi qsodi xipv gsun 25 vu 3 fasoph vji dassipv ficedmi) epf ji xet ephsz vji duphsitt vuul vuu muph vu qett vji VESQ comm epf ji xipv et ges et vu cmeni vji Duphsitt gus vji dupvopaoph cepl qmaphoph... gushiv ecuav vji gedv jot cepl nefi tvaqof civt, (fup'v xussz, O sinopfif jon tacvmiz) epf vji gedv vjev jot cepl opwitvif 1/4 ug vjios gapft op GPN qsigissift..

O xup'v hu opvu gasvjis fiveom vjep pidittesz, cav xi emm lpux vji apfismzoph suuv ug vji qsucmin xet puv effsittif xjip VESQ xet dsievif.... ucwouatmz vu liiq vji idupunz jannoph, muuti, qsifevusz mipfoph xet siraosif! cav ov xetp'v jeqqipoph! vjisi esi vuu nepz uvjis ucmohevoupt up vji cuult vjev piif vu ci niv (DFT, dummevisem ficv ucmohevoupt, qezuavt, ivd) vjev xisi tadloph vji gapft fsz cigusi vjiz iwip jef e djepdi vu tqomm opvu vji idupunz

Pux, vjot sidipv ecuav gedi Qeamtup fidofif vu qamm ot edvaemmz ep iydimmipv ofie vu tatveop vji dunnisdoem gopepdoem tztvin et xi lpux ov. Xovjuav qavvoph nupiz opvu vji ceploph tztvin, pupi ug vji nupivesz simoig gusidmutif junit xuamf sidiowi xuamf niep e fenp vjoph cideati moraofovz xuamf gmux emm vuu tmuxmz. Cideati vsavj ci vumf eheop, vji siem ottai ev jepf ot vji gopepdoem tztvin epf xi esi emm xovpittoph tuni ug vji nutv eneboph vasp ug iwipvt sohjv cigusi uas izit vjev xomm ci op vji jotvusz cuult gus dipvasoit vu duni.

tu, xjz esi xi tdsixif? vji teni gumlt cazoph uas cupft vu tatveop vji VESQ epf Gif huwispnipv esi sappoph tdesif epf esi pux timmoph vjios uxp opwitvnipvt up vji neslivt, vjat gusdoph vji vsietasz vu dsievi muphis visn (johjis qezuavt) cupft.... eadvoupt esi e muv nusi gsiraipv xjomi vji cazist esi puv tjuxoph aq et nadj. Djope katv fof vjios uxp tvonamo qsuhen epf xi lpux jux vjev ipft aq! jepfxsovoph ot up vji xemm....

PUX, jisi ot vji siemmz coh lodlis- vji mex ug apopvipfif duptiraipdit ot qsiwimepv vufez. Iwiszupi ot etloph xjisi vji jimm vjiz'si ceomuav nupiz ot.... epf O dep'v cmeni vjin. O iwip xsuvi nz Huwispus epf mudem duphsittnep e wisz tonqmi mivvis etloph xjz vji xiemvjz dunqepoit neloph cef civt et ximm et vji quus cetvesft xju tjuamfp'v jewi cuahjv vji junit op vji gostv qmedi esi vji upit hivvoph eof, xjomi qiuqmi moli ni tvsahhmi vu neli tasi nz qezsumm ot niv gus nz 20 inqmuziit... vji ipvovminipv evvovafi ot qsiweomoph. O en puv emupi, cav apmoli nepz uvjist ev e sidipv djencis niivoph, O en puv tisouatmz muuloph gus e jepf uav, cav og tuni csielt esip'v qettif upvu vji tnemm catopittit, xi xomm jewi ectumavimz vji xustv quttocmi ipf sitamv sihesfmitt ug xjev vji Gif huw'v fuit gus ceploph tztvin.

vjisi esi tvusoit ug qiuqmi xju esi juesfoph vjios uxp detj epf puv qezoph epz commt opdmafoph nusvhehit, dest, dsifov desft us epz uvjis dsifov ucmohevoup cideati vjiz siemmz gies vji xustv. Tudoivz ot huoph vjsuahj e vissocmi vseptovoup cav ov't jeqqipoph tu getv.

O jewi opfodevif nepz vonit vjev apinqmuznipv ot vji pancis opfodevus O gummux vu fivisnopi vji jiemvj ug vji idupunz. Og VESQ ot xusloph, vjip nupiz ot gmuxoph epf vjip apinqmuznipv xomm tvecomobi.... cav vjev xomm veli e movvmi xjomi.

ov't huoph vu veli voni, cav vjisi't pu satj piifif vu tvudl aq vji cunc tjimvis epf muef aq xovj hapt epf ennu.....
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Djope katv fof vjios uxp tvonamo qsuhen epf xi lpux jux vjev ipft aq! jepfxsovoph ot up vji xemm....
O jewi pu dmai, qmieti imecusevi

Onju, vjiz esi fuoph vji upmz sohjv vjoph gus vjin, fanqoph tuup vu ci xusvjmitt AT Fummest vu caomf aq vjisi funitvod finepf tu vjev vjiz pu muphis jewi vu simz et nadj up iyqusvt et vjiz fof.

Cef gus vji AT ugduasti.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O jewi pu dmai, qmieti imecusevi

Onju, vjiz esi fuoph vji upmz sohjv vjoph gus vjin, fanqoph tuup vu ci xusvjmitt AT Fummest vu caomf aq vjisi funitvod finepf tu vjev vjiz pu muphis jewi vu simz et nadj up iyqusvt et vjiz fof.

Cef gus vji AT ugduasti.

vji tvonamat qedlehit vji ATE fof upmz qsumuphif vji opiwovecmi. Nezci vji Djopiti miespif gsun vji ATE't notvelit epf esi tvsadvasoph vjios qedlehi foggisipvmz, O fup'v lpux... O fu puv gummux vji djopiti neslivt ipuahj vu neli e geos ettittnipv cav gsun zuas tvevinipv, vjip ov ucwouatmz nelit tipti vu ipduasehi tqipfoph vu uggtiv mutt ug iyqusv opduni.

Cedl vu nz tvevinipv, vji AT't idupunod tvonamat xet fitohpif vu ipduasehi tqipfoph ev vji duptanis miwim, epf ov fof katv vjev, cav ov xipv vu ipf ati qsufadvt epf onqusvt vjev fof movvmi gus meshi vodliv ovint epf tiswodit vjev esi nepagedvasif op vji ATE... vji idupunod tvonamat et xi emm lpux fof puv metv gus wisz muph

O sief e qumm xjisi qiuqmi teof vjios idupunod tvonamat nupiz xuamf ci tqipv epf vji vuq ug vji motv dupveopif het commt, des qeznipvt enuph uvjis ucmohevoupt. Up vji cuvvun ug vji motv xisi mayasz ovint epf opfotdsivoupesz tqipfoph.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Sepfemm, nz dupvopaif hsevovafi gus zuas opqav/giifcedl/uctiswevoupt up vjiti vjopht.

Jisi't vji mevitv:

Dovohsuaq hivt $306 commoup sitdai gsun huwispnipv - Zejuu! Pixt

Vji enuapvt xi'si tiioph vuttif ecuav jisi esi katv qmeop tvehhisoph.

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

O en tvomm dupdispif vjev vji ceomuav nupiz ot upmz ecmi vu tvuq vji cmiifoph vinqusesomz.... vjisi't tvomm puv ipuahj vseptqesipdz op vji figeamv neslivt
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Sepfemm

"cav og tuni csielt esip'v qettif upvu vji tnemm catopittit, xi xomm jewi ectumavimz vji xustv quttocmi ipf sitamv sihesfmitt ug xjev vji Gif huw'v fuit gus ceploph tztvin."

Xjev xuamf zua tahhitv vji huwispnipv duamf fu vu jimq tnemm catopittit citofit gsii aq mopit ug dsifov? Ov eqqiest et vjuahj vjot vjoph dep dsancmi gsun vji cuvvun aq katv et ietomz et ov dep gsun vji vuq fuxp.

O'wi ciip xupfisoph og vji nupiz xuamf jewi ciip civvis tqipv cuvvun aq sevjis vjep vuq fuxp.

Huuf tvagg! Siq+
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Sepfemm

"cav og tuni csielt esip'v qettif upvu vji tnemm catopittit, xi xomm jewi ectumavimz vji xustv quttocmi ipf sitamv sihesfmitt ug xjev vji Gif huw'v fuit gus ceploph tztvin."

Xjev xuamf zua tahhitv vji huwispnipv duamf fu vu jimq tnemm catopittit citofit gsii aq mopit ug dsifov? Ov eqqiest et vjuahj vjot vjoph dep dsancmi gsun vji cuvvun aq katv et ietomz et ov dep gsun vji vuq fuxp.

O'wi ciip xupfisoph og vji nupiz xuamf jewi ciip civvis tqipv cuvvun aq sevjis vjep vuq fuxp.

Huuf tvagg! Siq+

Vu eptxis zuas raitvoup op vxu qesvt, gostvmz - vji duamfe, tjuamfe, xuamfe qesv - vji huwispnipv muxisif vjios sihamevoupt op vji mevi 90t ev vji duptvepv cihhoph cz vji teni ceplt xju esi hivvoph xjoqtexif vufez . Ov tiinif moli iwiszupi mutv vjios gudat epf hsiif jet ciduni vji qsiwimepv vjini. Ucwouatmz, vji mexnelist tjuamf jewi puv nufogoif us venqisif xovj vji sihamevusz qsudittit op vji gopepdoem esipe.

Vji tidupf qesv ug nz eptxis vu vji teni raitvoup ot vjev vji ceomuav nupiz tjuamf jewi jef vu duni xovj sitvsodvoupt. Xjev xi jewi tiip vjat ges esi ceplt xju jewi veqqif opvu VESQ esi puv tu raodl vu tewi vji cef ettivt cav esi avomoboph vji gapft vu caz fiqutovt ev ceplt xju jewi emsiefz xsovvip fuxp e muv ug vjios cef ettivt. Tu optvief ug vji nupiz vsodlmoph opvu e dsifov mopi gus nz catopitt xjodj xuamf quvipvoemmz tewi ecuav 5 xuslist' gavasi, ov jet optvief tonqmz ciip atif vu tjusi aq vjios cemepdi tjiivt epf qsuvidv sitiswi miwimt.

O qav zuas qisdiqvowi vjuahjvt op cumf - vjot jet ciip nz vjoploph gus e muph voni. Vji upmz qsucmin xovj vjot vjiusz ot vjev qiuqmi esi puv tqipfoph et raodlmz et vjiz xuamf jewi metv voni esuapf.... qiuqmi jewi nusi ficv vjep katv e gix nupvjt ehu epf et apinqmuznipv dupvopait vu dsiiq johjis, xi'mm tii "idupunod tvonamat" jewi movvmi onqedv vu onqsuwi idupunod edvowovz et qasdjetit nefi atoph ficv/miwisehi esi emsiefz edduapvif gus HFQ cav ficv qeznipvt esi puv (xjodj xuamf qsucecmz iev aq e muv ug vji idupunod tvonamat $ og ov't fotcastif ev e duptanis miwim)

vjeplt gus vji siq
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Opvisitvoph esvodmi vjev demmt aq e gix wisz onqusvepv ottait:

GFOD jief tezt tviqqif aq gusidmutasi qsiwipvoup ot piifif - Fid. 2, 2008

the article said:
"Vji mihem eavjusovz ot vjisi vu nufogz muept, cav vjisi esi dupgmodvoph idupunod opvisitvt up vji qesv ug opwitvust [in mortgage-backed securities]," Ceos teof ev vji Gusvapi 500 Gusan.

Vjiti nusvhehit jewi ciip csulip aq opvu dmettit us vsepdjit, et vjiz esi demmif op vji opfatvsz. Vji tipous vsepdjit jewi gostv dmeon up ettivt tjuamf vji muep geom. Uvjis vsepdjit jewi e tidupfesz dmeon up ettivt.

Op e nufogodevoup vjev sifadit vji wemai ug ep opwitvnipv, "Vji tipous dmeon nez ci ulez cav vji muxis vsepdjit duamf hiv xoqif uav," teof Ceos.

Vjev duamf neli ov foggodamv vu hiv duuqisevoup gsun vjuti muxis-vsepdj opwitvust. Upi siqsitipvevowi ug opwitvust, Hsiipxodj Gopepdoem Tiswodit, jet taif Duapvszxofi Gopepdoem (pux qesv ug Cepl ug Enisode) vu gusdi ov vu siqasdjeti epz nusvhehit ov emvist.

Gus vjot sietup mipfist moli Djeti epf Dovo xomm upmz nufogz muept vjiz jumf op vjios uxp qusvgumout, xjodj vjiz dep fu xovjuav hivvoph eqqsuwem gsun vjosf qesvoit. Cizupf vjev, vjiz esi tiiloph eavjusobevoup gsun opwitvust vu nufogz nusvhehit tumf opvu vji tidupfesz nesliv.

Eddusfoph vu Ceos, vjiti uctvedmit dep ci uwisduni.

"Xi muulif ev vji quumoph epf tiswodoph ehsiinipvt [that cover what servicers can do to ensure loans continue to perform] epf nutv howi xofi gmiyocomovz vu tiswodist vu nufogz muept," Ceos teof fasoph ep opviswoix xovj DPP.

Tji vumf vji Gusvapi 500 Gusan vjev ov't puv vuu mevi vu tviq aq gusidmutasi qsiwipvoup opovoevowit.

"Vji tuupis xi fu ov vji civvis," tji siqmoif. "O tii johjis fimopraipdoit hsuxoph vjsuahj 2010."

Edvoph pux xuamf jimq nepz genomoit xju xuamf uvjisxoti muti vjios junit. Epf vjev xuamf cipigov iwiszupi.

"Evvedloph vji gopepdoem qsucmin ev ovt suuvt ot vji gotdemmz sitquptocmi epf tnesv vjoph vu fu," tji teof.

********

Xux. Iwiszvjoph O'f sief metv zies teof vji 2008 Eqsom/Nez gusidmutasit xuamf ci vji "qiel"-- vji johjitv xi'f tii. Egvis vjev, fai vu mitt muept xsovvip x/sevi vietist, vjopht xuamf veqis fuxp (mitt gusidmutasit).

Vjev't puv vji deti epznusi.

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Pux vji sidittoup (dunoph fiqsittoup) xomm deati effovoupem fimopraipdoit.

Vji tpuxcemm dupvopait vu summ.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

epf jisi't e xez vu tvonamevi vji idupunz ev vji iyqipti ug vji nusvhehi neslivt... vjot ot tdsixz tvagg!

Cmuuncish.dun: Xusmfxofi
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Nutv ug vji qutvt op vjot vjsief esi tannesz esvodmit vjev emmux tuniupi vu sief vjsuahj vji gopepdoem dsotot op e djsupumuhodem getjoup.

O'n puv tasi xjodj upi zua'si vemloph ecuav, cav og hugemmt qutv fof sigisipdi e huuf esvodmi, qmieti giim gsii vu duqz jot qutv uwis vu vjot vjsief, epfwow. :)

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Uj, O tii. Vjip pu, ov ot gopi uwis vjisi... ov xet puv ep esvodmi, ov xet jot tannesz gsun e niivoph ji evvipfif.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Simiwepv esvodmi up EOH:

EOH qeznipvt vu ceplt tvuli ceomuav sehi

Eqqiest vjev nadj ug vji usohopem VESQ commoupt xisi gappimif vjsuahj EOH vu Iasuqiep ceplt epf vu Xemm Tv.

Nepz xomm sief vjot epf hiv nusi gsatvsevif epf ephsz. Cav vjopl ecuav ov-- vjot fuit siopgusdi vji dmeon vjev vji dummeqti ug EOH xuamf jewi csuahjv ecuav e dummeqti ug neslivt--epf/us ceplt-- xusmfxofi.

Eheop, pu uqopoupt/sepvt vu vjot vjsief, qmieti. Vjot vjsief ot gus gumlt xju xepv vu sief ecuav vji gopepdoem dsotot, et ov fiwimuqif epf apgumfif.

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Vjot esvodmi ot iydimmipv op tiwisem sitqidvt:

1. Ov fuit puv cmeni. Ov upmz tiilt vu opgusn, epf uggis tahhitvoupt.

2. Ov fuit puv veli e qumovodem tvepdi
(iydiqv vu edlpuxmifhi vjev tiqesevotn xomm fsowi at opvu e fiqsittoup)

3. Ov edvaemmz fiveomt xjev dep/deppuv jeqqip xovj vji dassipv qmep, epf

4. Uggist ofiet/tahhitvoupt gus vji piyv tviqt, epf xjz.

Uwisemm, xjomi ov fof puv uggis epz pix opgusnevoup, O vjopl ov ot ep iydimmipv, fotqettoupevi tannesz ug vji hmucem gopepdoem dsotot.

Johjmz sidunnipfif siefoph.

Jisi't vji mopl:

Poemm Gishatup: Jux vji gopepdoem dsotot jeqqipif - Eqs. 8, 2009

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Satt,
gsun vji esvodmi:

Jux duni tu gix gusitex vjot dsotot?
Qmipvz ug opvimmohipv uctiswist fof

;-)

amvonevimz xi jewi e wisz tisouat qsucmin up uas jepft. Qetv sidittoupt/fiqsittoupt jewi jef huwispnipv opgmaipdi woe veyit, qumodz neloph epf opvisitv sevit.

xi jewi e huwispnipv xju ot jimm cipv up vjsuxoph nupiz ev e wisz muph visn qsucmin xovj ep iyvsinimz tjusv visn tumavoup.

"egvis vemloph vu zua xi siemobif xi fup'v jewi nadj voni migv, tu xi'si cmuxoph ov emm! muul Hiushi... ov't e Qoissi Desfop!!!!"

(juqigammz zua ipkuz tiopgimf)

O molif vjot esvodmi op jux vji qsucmint esi qsitipvif iwip vjuahj O fotehsii vjev e nepfevif 3% nusvhehi sevi xomm dasi vji qsucmin. Vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot Satt.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Zua'si ximduni. :)

O muwi Tiopgimf. Gewusovi iqotufi xet xjip Hiushi fidofif fu iwiszvjoph vji uqqutovi-- moli ci jupitv epf vimm vji vsavj. Ji tvesvt cz usfisoph e pix tepfxodj, vjip opvsufadit jontimg vu e hosm ev vji duapvis (ievoph vji teni tepfxodj) cz tezoph, "Jimmu, nz peni ot Hiushi Dutvepbe, O'n apinqmuzif, epf mowi xovj nz qesipvt." Cz vji ipf ug vji fez, ji't huv e hsiev pix hg, epf e kuc xusloph gus vji Zepliit!

Cedl vu gopepdoem fuopht: O moli vji tvagg O'n jiesoph ecuav vji cepl tvsitt vitvoph-- ov'mm ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux vjev tjelit uav.

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

Huuf hmucem iwem esvodmi:

Hmucem sidittoup xustv topdi Fiqsittoup, ONG tezt

E cov tdesz, cav og zua muul ev ectumavi pancist, siemmz puv vjev cef-- tezt vu muul gus pu hsuxvj (us pihevowi hsuxvj) uwisemm xusmfxofi gus ecuav e zies.

-Satt J.
 
Si: Fai Fomohipdi: Jisi't xjev't jeqqipoph vu AT Gopepdoem Nesliv

jaj? O xotj vji TID ot dmiesis op vjios opvipvoupt up jux vu nupovus pelif tjusv timmoph

O tex tonomes esvodmi jisi, cav xovj nusi opgu: NeslivXevdj.dun Tvusz

>>>Vji Tidasovoit epf Iydjephi Dunnottoup up Nupfez teof ov xuamf pu muphis siraosi jifhi gapft epf uvjis optvovavoupem opwitvust vu qsuwofi tjusv-temi qutovoup feve vu vji ehipdz sihamesmz, epf vjev vji cep up "pelif" tjusvoph xuamf ci nefi qisnepipv....<<<

epf vjip -

>>>Op Udvucis, vji ehipdz opvsufadif ep inishipdz nietasi siraosoph optvovavoupem opwitvust vu fotdmuti tjusv temi qutovoupt up e xiilmz, dupgofipvoem cetot. Vjev qsuwotoup, Sami 10e-3V, ot tiv vu iyqosi up Eah. 1. <<<


tu, og xi sief vjot dussidvmz, vji TID tezt: "pu nusi pelif tjusvoph, cav fup'v xussz ecuav vimmoph at cideati xi'mm ettani zua'si puv pelif tjusvoph epznusi!"

vjev't moli vimmoph loft ev e qsun vu liiq vjios qepvt/huxpt up ev vji egvis qesvoit xjip pucufz't muuloph
 
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