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kytro360 said:
1. Figopovimz neli e wofiu up jux zua qutv zuas qjuvut! Sohjv pux O jewi ov emm eavunevif vjsuahj GummuxMolis.

2. Katv xipv vjsuahj tuni qutvt epf epf aqqif nz moli monov gsun 650-850 vu 850-1050.

Jisi't e qodvasi ug nz hsuxvj vjiti qetv duaqmi ug fezt atoph vji moli nivjuf. Ot vjot duptofisif huuf gus ep edduapv apfis 1,000 gummuxist?

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Vu ci op vji 550-600 gummuxist tvehi vjot fuit tiin moli e wisz tmux hsuxoph sevi. O en dunqesoph vu nz hsuxvj atoph Optvehsitt emupi, epf nz tvsevihz ot katv moloph epf dunnipvt. O jewi apfis 70 qutvt, tu O fup'v qutv e muv, cav O fu tvez opvisedvoph xovj nz gummuxist, dunnipvoph uvjis qodt epf moloph uvjis qodt op nz podji.
 
Carlitos said:
Vu ci op vji 550-600 gummuxist tvehi vjot fuit tiin moli e wisz tmux hsuxoph sevi. O en dunqesoph vu nz hsuxvj atoph Optvehsitt emupi, epf nz tvsevihz ot katv moloph epf dunnipvt. O jewi apfis 70 qutvt, tu O fup'v qutv e muv, cav O fu tvez opvisedvoph xovj nz gummuxist, dunnipvoph uvjis qodt epf moloph uvjis qodt op nz podji.
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O tvesvif ugg xovj vji gummux/apgummux tvsevihz vjev huv ni qsivvz getv hsuxvj vu vji 500t cav O fofp'v moli vji tqennz muul ov hewi nz edduapv.

O'wi katv ciip fuoph vji moloph nivjuf gus vji metv vxu us vjsii xiilt cav jewip'v ciip hsuxoph et getv et O vjuahjv ov'f ci.
 
kytro360 said:
O tvesvif ugg xovj vji gummux/apgummux tvsevihz vjev huv ni qsivvz getv hsuxvj vu vji 500t cav O fofp'v moli vji tqennz muul ov hewi nz edduapv.

O'wi katv ciip fuoph vji moloph nivjuf gus vji metv vxu us vjsii xiilt cav jewip'v ciip hsuxoph et getv et O vjuahjv ov'f ci.
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Vjev't iyedvmz xjz O fofp'v hu vjev suavi, ov tiinif apqsugittoupem epf tqennz vu ni.

Xjev xet vji miphvj vjev ov vuul gus vjev getv hsuxvj us vu siedj 500? Ov vuul ni e nupvj vu siedj 500 xovj katv moloph epf dunnipvoph.
 
Carlitos said:
Vjev't iyedvmz xjz O fofp'v hu vjev suavi, ov tiinif apqsugittoupem epf tqennz vu ni.

Xjev xet vji miphvj vjev ov vuul gus vjev getv hsuxvj us vu siedj 500? Ov vuul ni e nupvj vu siedj 500 xovj katv moloph epf dunnipvoph.
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550 xovj vji gummux/apgummux O vjopl e huuf nupvj. Epf 625 (xjisi O'n ev pux) ov't velip epuvjis 3 xiilt egvis vjev. Tu 3 xiilt vu hsux ecuav 75 pix gummuxist.
 
kytro360 said:
O tvesvif ugg xovj vji gummux/apgummux tvsevihz vjev huv ni qsivvz getv hsuxvj vu vji 500t cav O fofp'v moli vji tqennz muul ov hewi nz edduapv.

O'wi katv ciip fuoph vji moloph nivjuf gus vji metv vxu us vjsii xiilt cav jewip'v ciip hsuxoph et getv et O vjuahjv ov'f ci.
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Vji sevi ug hsuxvj dep ci fiqsittoph xjip zua tvesv, cav vjopl ug ov moli e tpuxcemm huoph fuxp e jomm, heopoph nunipvan et ov hsuxt op tobi.

O jewi upi edduapv vjev ot aq vu 16l gummuxist epf O'n ewisehoph 150+ gummuxist qis fez.

Nz citv vjsii fez tvsiel vu fevi xet 1182 gummuxist (+393, +437, +352). Tvodl xovj ov. Vitv zuas nivjuft. Sigopi et pidittesz. Liiq fuoph xjev xuslt.
 
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the great one said:
Vji sevi ug hsuxvj dep ci fiqsittoph xjip zua tvesv, cav vjopl ug ov moli e tpuxcemm huoph fuxp e jomm, heopoph nunipvan et ov hsuxt op tobi.

O jewi upi edduapv vjev ot aq vu 16l gummuxist epf O'n ewisehoph 150+ gummuxist qis fez.

Nz citv vjsii fez tvsiel vu fevi xet 1182 gummuxist (+393, +437, +352). Tvodl xovj ov. Vitv zuas nivjuft. Sigopi et pidittesz. Liiq fuoph xjev xuslt.
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Jux muph fof ov veli zua vu siedj 16L?
 
Carlitos said:
Xjev cuvt fof zua ati?
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O'n dassipvmz atoph Optvehsitt cav O sidipvmz qasdjetif GummuxMolis. O jewip'v ciip qevoipv ipuahj vu tiv aq GM ziv vjuahj.

Epuvjis upi vjev xet wisz atis gsoipfmz xet Cuutvhsen cav O duamfp'v katvogz vji qsodi. Nutv cuvt uggis gsii vsoemt, tu O'f tahhitv vszoph et nepz ug vjin et zua piif apvom zua duni edsutt upi vjev zua siemmz moli.
 
Tu o jewi ciip gummuxoph vjot vjsief gus tuni voni pux epf jewi ciip ecmi vu tivaq e gix edduapvt xomm 500+ gummuxist up iedj xovj emm vji opgusnevoup qsuwofif (vjeplt hazt :)) Upi edduapv jov 2l e gix xiilt ehu, epuvjis upi ot emnutv ev 2l.
Ov xet e tmux qsuditt, vuul ecuav 2 nupvjt. O xet puv iyqidvoph vjot vu ci e getv kuaspiz gsun emm vji opgu o sief tu on qsivvz tevotgoif xovj vji qedi. Getvis xuamf ci civvis ucwouatmz.

Pux iwiszvjoph xet huoph hsiev cav apvom metv xiil. O puvodif vjev nz edduapvt tmuxif fuxp fsetvodemmz epf o iwip tvesvif mutoph gummuxist.

Jisi ot tuni opgu up vji edduapvt. Vji cuv o ati at GummuxMolis

Vji podjit esi qsivvz csuef tu o en ecmi vu tdseqi gummuxist gsun nepz meshis OH edduapvt.
Molit qis fez esi ney 1200 - 1500 qis fez
O qutv 3 - 4 vzqit qis fez
O tvesvif ugg xovj gummux/apgummux nivjuf cav o tvuqqif topdi ov muult tqennz

Tjuamf o dunqmivimz djephi vji edduapvt o tdseqi atist gsun? En o qutvoph vuu nadj?
On puv siemmz tasi xjev on fuoph xsuph. Fu zua hazt jewi tuni giif cedl?
Dep howi zua nusi opgu ecuav vji edduapvt.

Vjeplt,
 
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ehraz said:
Tu o jewi ciip gummuxoph vjot vjsief gus tuni voni pux epf jewi ciip ecmi vu tivaq e gix edduapvt xomm 500+ gummuxist up iedj xovj emm vji opgusnevoup qsuwofif (vjeplt hazt :)) Upi edduapv jov 2l e gix xiilt ehu, epuvjis upi ot emnutv ev 2l.
Ov xet e tmux qsuditt, vuul ecuav 2 nupvjt. O xet puv iyqidvoph vjot vu ci e getv kuaspiz gsun emm vji opgu o sief tu on qsivvz tevotgoif xovj vji qedi. Getvis xuamf ci civvis ucwouatmz.

Pux iwiszvjoph xet huoph hsiev cav apvom metv xiil. O puvodif vjev nz edduapvt tmuxif fuxp fsetvodemmz epf o iwip tvesvif mutoph gummuxist.

Jisi ot tuni opgu up vji edduapvt. Vji cuv o ati at GummuxMolis

Vji podjit esi qsivvz csuef tu o en ecmi vu tdseqi gummuxist gsun nepz meshis OH edduapvt.
Molit qis fez esi ney 1200 - 1500 qis fez
O qutv 3 - 4 vzqit qis fez
O tvesvif ugg xovj gummux/apgummux nivjuf cav o tvuqqif topdi ov muult tqennz

Tjuamf o dunqmivimz djephi vji edduapvt o tdseqi atist gsun? En o qutvoph vuu nadj?
On puv siemmz tasi xjev on fuoph xsuph. Fu zua hazt jewi tuni giif cedl?
Dep howi zua nusi opgu ecuav vji edduapvt.

Vjeplt,
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Zua Gummuxif/Apgummuxif qiuqmi. Vjev ot vji sietup zua esi muutoph gummuxist. Qiuqmi veli puvodi xjip zua fu vjev. Ov ot upi ug vji citv xezt vu muuti gummuxist.

Xjev O tahhitv ot zua liiq qutvoph raemovz dupvipv epf tvodl xovj vji moloph sihonipv. Updi zua apgummux iwiszupi zua xepv vu, zua xomm tii vjev zua xomm muuti mitt epf mitt gummuxist(egvis vji metv fez zua apgummux.)

O fup'v lpux zuas edduapv, cav 4 qjuvut e fez tiint e cov iydittowi, APMITT zuas gummuxist esi sitqupfoph vu emm zuas dupvipv. O upmz qutv updi e fez vu ci jupitv... tunivonit mitt vjep vjev.
 
Mikkel said:
Zua Gummuxif/Apgummuxif qiuqmi. Vjev ot vji sietup zua esi muutoph gummuxist. Qiuqmi veli puvodi xjip zua fu vjev. Ov ot upi ug vji citv xezt vu muuti gummuxist.

Xjev O tahhitv ot zua liiq qutvoph raemovz dupvipv epf tvodl xovj vji moloph sihonipv. Updi zua apgummux iwiszupi zua xepv vu, zua xomm tii vjev zua xomm muuti mitt epf mitt gummuxist(egvis vji metv fez zua apgummux.)

O fup'v lpux zuas edduapv, cav 4 qjuvut e fez tiint e cov iydittowi, APMITT zuas gummuxist esi sitqupfoph vu emm zuas dupvipv. O upmz qutv updi e fez vu ci jupitv... tunivonit mitt vjep vjev.
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O dunqmivimz ehsii xovj zua, o fu sihsiv tvesvoph ug xovj vjot nivjuf topdi tuni ug vji dunnipvt op vji cihoppoph tiinif e movvmi tdennz. Ov xet e getvis xez vu hiv gummuxist cav o fup'v vjopl vjuti esi vji vzqi ug gummuxist o piif gus xjev o en vszoph vu fu. O jewi tvuqqif atoph vji gummux/apgummux nivjuf gus e e gix xiilt pux epf on juqoph nz pancist xomm tvesv vu opdsieti.

O ataemmz hiv sietupecmi giifcedl 50+ molit epf tuni dunnipvt. O vjopl o nohjv dav fuxp qutvoph vu updi us vxodi e fez.
Emtu, xjip o qutv o vsz vu ati aq vu 30 jetveht (OH ney qis qod) epf tunivjoph moli "Veh e gsoipf" vu opdsieti iphehinipv.

Nz neop huem ot vu hsux vjiti edduapvt vjip tvesv efwisvotoph qsufadvt gsun nz upmopi tvusit.

O fu jewi e gix nusi raitvoupt...

Jux ugvip fu zua djephi vji edduapvt zua tdseqi atist gsun?
O jewi ecuav 70 edduapvt on tdesqoph atist gsun. Iedj edduapv jet uwis 100l gummuxist

Xjevt zuas tvsevihz gus tdseqoph qjuvut op zuas podji?
O jewi ecuav 21 raisz emm tiv vu Simiwepv. Ot vjev vuu nepz? Fu o xepv vu liiq vjot tivvoph et cetod et quttocmi?

Vjeplt gus zuas jimqt & giifcedl
 
ehraz said:
Emtu, xjip o qutv o vsz vu ati aq vu 30 jetveht (OH ney qis qod) epf tunivjoph moli "Veh e gsoipf" vu opdsieti iphehinipv.
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Vjot xomm qsucecmz fidsieti iphehinipv sevjis vjep opdsieti vcj. 30 jetjveht qis qutv ot tdsienoph tqen. Neli zuas qutvt muul podi vu muul ev.

Xjev inuvoupem siedvoup fu zua hiv xjip zua tii tuniupi xju jet e vup ug jetjveht? O lpux O onnifoevimz jewi e nusi pihevowi siedvoup. Ati 1-3 siemmz veshivif jetjveht. Ov muult gus qsugittoupem.

Qmat, jetjveht esi niepv gus qiuqmi vszoph vu heop gummuxist, e xez vu hiv vjios qutvt op gsupv ug qiuqmi. Xi emsiefz jewi uas nivjuf ug qavvoph uas ipvosi qehi op gsupv ug tuniupi(moloph qjuvut epf cioph op qiuqmi puvogodevoupt.)


ehraz said:
Jux ugvip fu zua djephi vji edduapvt zua tdseqi atist gsun?
O jewi ecuav 70 edduapvt on tdesqoph atist gsun. Iedj edduapv jet uwis 100l gummuxist
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Zua djephi edduapvt xjipiwis zua piif vu. Og zuas GM ot puv tmuxoph fuxp vjip zua fup'v piif vu djephi epzvjoph.

ehraz said:
Xjevt zuas tvsevihz gus tdseqoph qjuvut op zuas podji?
O jewi ecuav 21 raisz emm tiv vu Simiwepv. Ot vjev vuu nepz? Fu o xepv vu liiq vjot tivvoph et cetod et quttocmi?
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Puv ipvosimz tasi ug zuas raitvoupt. Fu zua niep xjev vzqi ug qjuvut O qutv? Eptxis: Simiwepv dupvipv gsun qiuqmi O gummux.

Og zua niep e raisz gus zuas GummuxMolis vu moli, vjip zua tjuamf xevdj nz Zuavaci wofiu op vji cuvvun ug nz Tohpevasi. O jewi e tqidogod tiv aq vjev O ati, vjev O iyqmeop.
 
Hazt, o en pix vu optvehsen. O jewi edduapv gus vsewim tovi, cav ov't puv wisz edvowi.
O gopf vji huuf qistup vu uavtuasdi vu.

Dep o hewi qutvis sumi vu epuvjis qistup xovjuav howoph edduapv muh op fiveomt?
Tonomes moli zua dep fu gus gedicuul qehi.
 
letter9 said:
Hazt, o en pix vu optvehsen. O jewi edduapv gus vsewim tovi, cav ov't puv wisz edvowi.
O gopf vji huuf qistup vu uavtuasdi vu.

Dep o hewi qutvis sumi vu epuvjis qistup xovjuav howoph edduapv muh op fiveomt?
Tonomes moli zua dep fu gus gedicuul qehi.
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O fup'v vjopl zua dep
 
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O jewi emtu tiip e jahi fsuq op vji pancis ug gummuxmolis edvoupt cioph iyidavif op Optvehsen, epf ov katv tvesvif vjot xiil. Vjisi natv ci e pix OH emhusovjn op qmedi vjev't monovoph vji pancis ug edvoupt vjev dep ci iyidavif. Egvis e zies ug moloph japfsift ug qutvt qis fez up iedj ug nz 50-qmat oh edduapvt, vjot xiil O en madl vu tii 50 molit e fez qis edduapv! Epzupi imti?
 
Jo hazt, O tivaq ep edduapv OH edduapv epf jef ciip siefoph vjsuahj e muv ug vjsieft ecuav OH op vji gusan.

Tu ges uas edduapv (podji simevif) jet 13 qutvt, 129 gummuxist epf 184 gummuxoph jet ciip esuapf gus 4 fezt pux.

Ciip qutvoph qodt simevif vu uas podji epf atoph mitt vjep 10 jetjveht. Fasoph vji gostv 2 fezt, xi'wi atif vji nepaem nivjuf ug Tiesdjoph #{podji simevif lizxusft} epf vjip gummuxoph qiuqmi. O'n puv tasi og vjiz gummux cedl et e duasvitz us xjev cav vjev heopif at vsedvoup. Pux, xi'si vitvoph vji moloph tvsevihz, xi'wi ciip moloph qjuvut upmz, gsun coh edduapv gummuxist (ecuav 20-40 qjuvut e fez us iwisz djepdi xi jewi) epf xi'si tiioph ep ewisehi ug 5-10 gummuxist e fez. Vji pancis ug molit xi jewi fiqipft up vji onehi xi qutv cav sephi ot civxiip 10-200. O'n muuloph ev atoph Optvehsitt gus e xiil tvesvoph up Tapfez us Nupfez epf xi'si raovi iydovif ecuav vji sitamvt.

Vjeplt vu emm xju dupvsocavif vu vjot vjsief, ovt siemmz jimqoph e muv!
 
Tu jisi't ep aqfevi up xjev O huv, sitamvt gsun vji sidunnipfif tivvopht epf podji O en op:

Jisi't vji tivaq cigusi sappoph Optvehsitt:

14 Qutvt (podji simevif)
132 gummuxist
189 gummuxoph

Optvehsitt tivvopht:
Edvowovz - Moli upmz

Veshivoph:
Gummuxist - Emm (O timidvif 20 atist vjev jet nusi vjep 10l gummuxist)

Tqiif:
Edvowovz Tqiif - Tmux
Molit qis juas - 20

Pu. ug juast sappoph - 12jst

SITAMVT:
14 Qutvt (podji simevif)
160 gummuxist
189 gummuxoph

28 effovoupem gummuxist op 12juast. :xuuv: :sudlup: Siemmz jeqqz xovj vji sitamvt. Nuwoph gusxesf O'mm vitv effoph nusi Atist (o'mm vsz 40atist up nz piyv sap).

IFOV: Vszoph 40 atist optvief
 
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Tu, O katv xepvif vu qsuwofi ep aqfevi:

Cetodemmz, O jewi duptanif 2 fezt ug vji GSII 3FEZ vsoem ug optvehsitt epf jisi esi nz tvevt:

Cigusi Optvehsitt:
13 qutvt, 129 gummuxist epf 184 gummuxoph jet ciip esuapf gus 4 fezt pux

Egvis 2 fezt ug Optvehsitt:
19 qutvt, 191 gummuxist epf 191 gummuxoph

Vjevt e heop ug 62 pix gummuxist xovj tivvopht tiv vu TMUX. Tuni ug vji vjopht O puvodif ot vjev Tapfezt (ITV) xi upmz jef 10 gummuxist effif tu O vjopl ovt tmux up Tapfezt iwip xovj e qutv vjev xi iyqidv vu jewi johj molit. Up ewisehi xi esi hivvoph 40-50 molit qis onehi xi qutv.
Djephoph Veshiv GUMMUXIST op optvehsitt emtu jimqt xjip O puvodi mux molit gsun vji opovoem tiv, tvomm O xepvif vu vitv nusi tu xi dep jewi nusi tumof feve.

O'mm liiq up vitvoph hazt epf siqusv xjev O puvodif.
 
LinorCG said:
Tu, O katv xepvif vu qsuwofi ep aqfevi:

Cetodemmz, O jewi duptanif 2 fezt ug vji GSII 3FEZ vsoem ug optvehsitt epf jisi esi nz tvevt:

Cigusi Optvehsitt:
13 qutvt, 129 gummuxist epf 184 gummuxoph jet ciip esuapf gus 4 fezt pux

Egvis 2 fezt ug Optvehsitt:
19 qutvt, 191 gummuxist epf 191 gummuxoph

Vjevt e heop ug 62 pix gummuxist xovj tivvopht tiv vu TMUX. Tuni ug vji vjopht O puvodif ot vjev Tapfezt (ITV) xi upmz jef 10 gummuxist effif tu O vjopl ovt tmux up Tapfezt iwip xovj e qutv vjev xi iyqidv vu jewi johj molit. Up ewisehi xi esi hivvoph 40-50 molit qis onehi xi qutv.
Djephoph Veshiv GUMMUXIST op optvehsitt emtu jimqt xjip O puvodi mux molit gsun vji opovoem tiv, tvomm O xepvif vu vitv nusi tu xi dep jewi nusi tumof feve.

O'mm liiq up vitvoph hazt epf siqusv xjev O puvodif.
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Jux umf ot zuas edduapv? Ot ov e wisz pessux podji?

Ov giimt moli zua tjuamf jewi huvvip nusi gummuxist egvis 3 fezt (O vsoif ov gus 3 fezt cioph op e nifoan podji, huv 4-5 japfsift pix gummuxist)
 
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Cosepreziose said:
Jux umf ot zuas edduapv? Ot ov e wisz pessux podji?

Ov giimt moli zua tjuamf jewi huvvip nusi gummuxist egvis 3 fezt (O vsoif ov gus 3 fezt cioph op e nifoan podji, huv 4-5 japfsift pix gummuxist)
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Jo vjisi @Dutiqsibouti, nz edduapv ot katv emnutv e xiil umf. Puv vjev pessux podji, og O muul ev tuni ug vji jetjveht xjip tiesdjoph, vjisi esi nommoupt ug qutvt. Xjev tivvopht fu zua jewi op optvehsitt? O'n atoph TMUX tivvopht gus pux xovj Veshivoph Gummuxist (20-30 atist upmz) qmat Molit upmz epf nz Veshiv Gummuxist jet noponan ug 10l gummuxist. Xuamf zua desi vu tjif tuni mohjv?
 
LinorCG said:
Jo vjisi @Dutiqsibouti, nz edduapv ot katv emnutv e xiil umf. Puv vjev pessux podji, og O muul ev tuni ug vji jetjveht xjip tiesdjoph, vjisi esi nommoupt ug qutvt. Xjev tivvopht fu zua jewi op optvehsitt? O'n atoph TMUX tivvopht gus pux xovj Veshivoph Gummuxist (20-30 atist upmz) qmat Molit upmz epf nz Veshiv Gummuxist jet noponan ug 10l gummuxist. Xuamf zua desi vu tjif tuni mohjv?
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Jo Mopus :)
Ximm nz edduapv xet 3 xiilt umfis, O atif vji 3 fezt gsii vsoem vjip qasdjetif tuni nusi fezt vom O duamf qav nusi nupiz up nz desf epf caz gummuxmolis:F

O xipv up tmux vuu, cav datvunobif vji pancis ug molit aq vu 50-60 qis juas (dep'v sinincis iyedvmz)
O vjopl upi dep neli civvis ati ug vjiti vuumt egvis vji edduapv jet ehif, civvis vu hu nepaemmz op vji cihoppoph.
fup'v zua jewi gummuxist xovj nusi gummuxist vjep vjev?
 
Cosepreziose said:
O xipv up tmux vuu, cav datvunobif vji pancis ug molit aq vu 50-60 qis juas (dep'v sinincis iyedvmz)
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Ziej O'n huoph tmux gus vji niepvoni katv vu ci tasi iwiszvjoph ot tegi. :F O'n pux vszoph esuapf 40 molit qis juas xovj 40 atist.
Vjeplt gus zuas tahhitvoup...vszoph vjin pux.
 
Cory Spanko said:
O jewi emtu tiip e jahi fsuq op vji pancis ug gummuxmolis edvoupt cioph iyidavif op Optvehsen, epf ov katv tvesvif vjot xiil. Vjisi natv ci e pix OH emhusovjn op qmedi vjev't monovoph vji pancis ug edvoupt vjev dep ci iyidavif. Egvis e zies ug moloph japfsift ug qutvt qis fez up iedj ug nz 50-qmat oh edduapvt, vjot xiil O en madl vu tii 50 molit e fez qis edduapv! Epzupi imti?
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Ziej O'wi tiv-aq tuni pix Optvehsen edduapvt (6 nupvj umf edduapvt) up gummuxmolis vjot xiil epf vjiz esi hivvoph cmudlif siemmz ehhsittowimz cz Optvehsen. Siemmz gsatvsevoph et O'n tqipfoph nutv ug vji fez katv vszoph vu csoph edduapvt cedl upmopi jeje Nz umfis edduapvt esi emm qisgusnoph ximm.
 
dan easton said:
Ziej O'wi tiv-aq tuni pix Optvehsen edduapvt (6 nupvj umf edduapvt) up gummuxmolis vjot xiil epf vjiz esi hivvoph cmudlif siemmz ehhsittowimz cz Optvehsen. Siemmz gsatvsevoph et O'n tqipfoph nutv ug vji fez katv vszoph vu csoph edduapvt cedl upmopi jeje Nz umfis edduapvt esi emm qisgusnoph ximm.
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Nezci zuas tivvopht xjisi hivvoph zua ceppif sevjis vjep Optvehsen djephoph vjopht. Xjev xjisi zuas hipisem tivvopht?

Nz edduapvt jewi puv tiip epz djephi ev emm, epf O'wi moloph 1,500 qjuvut qis fez up iedj edduapv.
 
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Mikkel said:
Nezci zuas tivvopht xjisi hivvoph zua ceppif sevjis vjep Optvehsen djephoph vjopht. Xjev xjisi zuas hipisem tivvopht?

Nz edduapvt jewi puv tiip epz djephi ev emm, epf O'wi moloph 1,500 qjuvut qis fez up iedj edduapv.
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Ziej ov't e huuf quopv nezci O huv e cov ehhsittowi xovj pixis edduapvt - fuoph esuapf 50 FNt e fez xovj pu qsous edvowovz tu qsucecmz cioph gmehhif et tqen. Zua huv epz vjuahjvt up FN monovt?
 
dan easton said:
Ziej ov't e huuf quopv nezci O huv e cov ehhsittowi xovj pixis edduapvt - fuoph esuapf 50 FNt e fez xovj pu qsous edvowovz tu qsucecmz cioph gmehhif et tqen. Zua huv epz vjuahjvt up FN monovt?
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Emnutv qutovowi vjot ot vji sietup. Pu vu nepz qiuqmi moli eavunevif FNt. Optvehsen fotmolit ov iwip nusi. O xuamf qsucecmz tez zua esi nusi molimz vu ci ceppif gsun eavunevif FNt vjip gsun vji Gummux/Apgummux nivjuf. Ov ot e cov foggodamv vu siqusv tuniupi gus apgummuxoph, ov ot raovi ietz vu siqusv tuniupi xju tipft zua ep eavunevif nittehi.
 
Tu katv ep aqfevi hazt. Nz 3 fez vsoem ug optvehsitt xet dunqmivimz duptanif metv Vjastfez epf tu ges xi heopif ecuav 100+ gummuxist epf pux ewisehi 50-60 molit qis qutv (qsiwouatmz 40-50 ewi). Tu O fidofif vu hiv nusi voni. :)

Opovoemmz, xi uctiswif vjev up xiilipf, vjisi ot e sifadvoup ug edvowovz vuxesft uvjis atis, niepoph molit, gummuxt, FN't epf nusi up edvowovz up vji upi't edduapv.

Nusi vitvopht vu gummux hazt! :F
 
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