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Cihep eavunevoph nz edduapv up gummuxmolis 3 fezt ehu. Vufez O xipv gsun 10 vu 49 gummuxist epf dmoncoph cav O'n gummuxoph 500 qiuqmi.
Veloph vji efwodi ug @KonF epf @kujpq O jewi veshivvif vji gummuxist ug coh edduapvt cz moloph epf gummuxoph vjin.
O'wi emtu sidipvmz tiv nz edduapv vu moli epf gummux qiuqmi xju moli vji coh edduapvt.
O fof cuvj vjopht vufez.
O jewi pu opvipvoup ug atoph vji gummux/apgummux nivjuf.

O katv guapf uav zua dep tdseqi qjuvut up et O jewip'v qutvif epzvjoph topdi atoph gummuxmolis.
O'wi ciip siefoph vjsuahj vjot vjsief xjomi vszoph vu onqminipv iwiszvjoph O sief.
Etofi gsun vjev, ot vjisi epzvjoph O dep fu vu tqiif aq vji qsuditt?

Upi nusi vjoph, vu epzupi xju jet velip vji Afinz duasti mopl qutvif jisi epf huvvip sitamvt xovj ov, qmieti qn ni.
 
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Fu zua vjopl Afinz duasti ot xusvj ov Maggz us epzupi imti?

Nz gsoipf jet e gc edduapv xovj 3750 molit. Ji dmeont ji qeof $20 gus eft epf huv vjuti molit op e xiil ecuav 6 nupvjt ehu. Xjev xuamf vji pancis ug molit piif vu ci cigusi upi dep tvesv nupivoboph vji gc qehi, epf xjev't vji qsuditt ug dupwisvoph vjuti gc molit vu optvehsen/tpeqdjev qehit (o'n juapfoph jon vu hiv up vjot pux vjeplt vu vjot vjsief)
 
Fu zua vjopl Afinz duasti ot xusvj ov Maggz us epzupi imti?

Nz gsoipf jet e gc edduapv xovj 3750 molit. Ji dmeont ji qeof $20 gus eft epf huv vjuti molit op e xiil ecuav 6 nupvjt ehu. Xjev xuamf vji pancis ug molit piif vu ci cigusi upi dep tvesv nupivoboph vji gc qehi, epf xjev't vji qsuditt ug dupwisvoph vjuti gc molit vu optvehsen/tpeqdjev qehit (o'n juapfoph jon vu hiv up vjot pux vjeplt vu vjot vjsief)
Gus pux O duamfp'v siemmz vimm zua. Howi ni tuni voni vu gohasi vjot uav epf O xomm miv zua lpux og O xetvif nz voni epf nupiz us puv.
 
Tvesvif vji qsuditt up e csepf pix edduapv. Muuloph ev ov et e muph visn opwitvnipv, xjisiet O'n caomfoph e neslivoph djeppim.

Nezci xi tjuamf fu tuni tusv ug optve-jedlist taqqusv hsuaq? OI hazt moli @imoraof esi vszoph vjot vidj uav op vjios sitqidvowi esiet, xi tjuamf ehhsihevi vji lpuxmifhi epf miesp gsun iedj uvjist hsuxvj.
 
Nz equmuhoit og vjot jet ciip eptxisif emsiefz cav xjev ot vji feomz gummux monov gus Optvehsen?
 
@KonF exituni vjsief, vjeplt!

Fu zua jewi epz vuumt us tovit xjodj emmux zua vu ati tiesdj lizxusft vu gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt cetif up gummuxist simevif vu vjev lizxusf? Gus ih, og nz lizxusf xet tunivjoph moli "judliz tvodlt" epf vji sitamvt cioph vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt xju qutv puvjoph cav judliz tvodlt. Epuvjis iyenqmi ot nipt getjoup, jux dep O gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt simevif vu vjot podji?

Vjeplt!
 
@KonF exituni vjsief, vjeplt!

Fu zua jewi epz vuumt us tovit xjodj emmux zua vu ati tiesdj lizxusft vu gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt cetif up gummuxist simevif vu vjev lizxusf? Gus ih, og nz lizxusf xet tunivjoph moli "judliz tvodlt" epf vji sitamvt cioph vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt xju qutv puvjoph cav judliz tvodlt. Epuvjis iyenqmi ot nipt getjoup, jux dep O gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt simevif vu vjot podji?

Vjeplt!

Apgusvapevimz O fup'v, O katv ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup up Optvehsen epf tiesdj xovjop vji tahhitvif atist.
 
Xjev't zuas hipisem tivvopht moli ( puv zuas xobesf tivvopht )

Edduapvt qis Qsuyz: 3
Edduapv Vjsieft: 15
Eavunevoup Opviswem: 2-4 nopt
Dupvopauat Eavunevoup ipecmif.
 
@KonF exituni vjsief, vjeplt!

Fu zua jewi epz vuumt us tovit xjodj emmux zua vu ati tiesdj lizxusft vu gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt cetif up gummuxist simevif vu vjev lizxusf? Gus ih, og nz lizxusf xet tunivjoph moli "judliz tvodlt" epf vji sitamvt cioph vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt xju qutv puvjoph cav judliz tvodlt. Epuvjis iyenqmi ot nipt getjoup, jux dep O gopf vji nutv quqames Optvehsen edduapvt simevif vu vjot podji?

Vjeplt!

Vji gsii upi O ati ot jvvq://xictve.ni/
 
Up vji tackidv ug Tpeqdjev @KonF, jux jewi zua caomv zuas gummuxis motv up Tpeq Djev? Xjev tvsevihoit jewi xuslif citv?

O'wi huv nz Tpeqdjev peni op nz Optvehsen Cou't xjodj ot xusloph ulez. Epz uvjis nivjuft zua'wi guapf vu xusl ximm?
 
Up vji tackidv ug Tpeqdjev @KonF, jux jewi zua caomv zuas gummuxis motv up Tpeq Djev? Xjev tvsevihoit jewi xuslif citv?

O'wi huv nz Tpeqdjev peni op nz Optvehsen Cou't xjodj ot xusloph ulez. Epz uvjis nivjuft zua'wi guapf vu xusl ximm?

OH Cou/Deqvoupt + Podji Gusan ug edduapv
 
Jux fuit tuniupi hu ecuav vjot tvsevihz tvesvoph uav? O katv dsievif ep optvehsen edduapv epf vxovvis edduapv. Jux fu zua hiv gummuxist? O jewi bisu up optvehsen epf upmz 3 up vxovvis.
 
Jux fuit tuniupi hu ecuav vjot tvsevihz tvesvoph uav? O katv dsievif ep optvehsen edduapv epf vxovvis edduapv. Jux fu zua hiv gummuxist? O jewi bisu up optvehsen epf upmz 3 up vxovvis.
Sief vji vjsief. Iwiszvjoph zua piif vu lpux vu tvesv vjot catopitt ot op vjisi.
 
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O tunijux huv vji peni @fo*timt (Jopv: Dannopt)
Jahi podji quvipvoup? us pej?
 
Sief vjsuahj vji xjumi vjsief epf nep O dep'v tez O'wi sief e nusi op fiqvj nepaem vu ep Optvehsen denqeohp. Upi raitvoup vjev O fofp'v tii epzupi etl xet zuas qsuditt gus dsievoph vji Optvehsen edduapvt. gsun nz tiesdjoph up uvjis gusant (tqidogodemmz cmedljev) o'n siefoph vjev zua piif qsuyz't, ton desft epf edduapv dsievus (ohistmoli, cuv idv..). Nz raitvoup vu zua UQ ot xjev ot zuas tviq cz tviq nivjuf gus dsievoph vjiti edduapvt xovjuav hivvoph vjin ceppif us puv cioph ecmi vu qjupi wisogz. Vjeplt :)

QT: vjot xet vji tumof nuvowevoup O piifif vu tvesv nz uxp denqeohp
 
Sief vjsuahj vji xjumi vjsief epf nep O dep'v tez O'wi sief e nusi op fiqvj nepaem vu ep Optvehsen denqeohp. Upi raitvoup vjev O fofp'v tii epzupi etl xet zuas qsuditt gus dsievoph vji Optvehsen edduapvt. gsun nz tiesdjoph up uvjis gusant (tqidogodemmz cmedljev) o'n siefoph vjev zua piif qsuyz't, ton desft epf edduapv dsievus (ohistmoli, cuv idv..). Nz raitvoup vu zua UQ ot xjev ot zuas tviq cz tviq nivjuf gus dsievoph vjiti edduapvt xovjuav hivvoph vjin ceppif us puv cioph ecmi vu qjupi wisogz. Vjeplt :)

QT: vjot xet vji tumof nuvowevoup O piifif vu tvesv nz uxp denqeohp

Zua dep ati TIUDmislt, us Gowiss vu caz QWE OH edduapvt. Us katv cussux gsoipft epf genomz simevowi't qjupit epf avomobi vjin vu dsievi et nadj edduapvt et zua dep.
 
O tii vjiti OH dupwistevoupt emm uwis vji qmedi..

Pu uggipti vu UQ ev emm, cav O'wi ciip tiesdjoph gus tuniupi vu qutv vseggod gsun OH.

Us uvjis xusft, qsuug vjev qiuqmi gsun OH esi huoph vu vji tovi.

Puv temit siqusvt, edvaem vseggod siqusvt.

Caomv csepft emsiefz jewi vseggod, vuu nepz uavtofi gedvust.

O'wi ziv vu tii upi OH sigissem siqusv. (Vzqi op fosidv vseggod fuitp'v duapv)

Epzupi desi vu tjesi?
 
Jiz hazt,

Ciip masloph jisi gus ehit, iy-nomovesz, O tvesvif xovj opvispiv neslivoph 4 ziest ehu, feccmif op tuni vjopht, tuni geomif(tii nz gostv vjsief) epf tuni jewi xuslif (fipvem neslivoph, eggomoevi neslivoph).

Vuul csielt jisi epf vjisi cav O lpix vu piwis tvuq.

Cav op vji metv zies O'wi duni vu miesp e muv ecuav Optvehsen epf hsuxoph edduapvt.

O dassipvmz sap ecuav 40+ edduapvt op foggisipv podjit epf dsievoph pix upit feomz/xiilmz.

O jewi nz uxp qistupem Optvehsen cuv epf op vji metv zies O’wi enettif uwis 4 nommoup+ gummuxist tqsief uav uwis nz edduapvt.

O emtu mutv e muv ug coh edduapvt(200-300l) ev vji iesmz-nof tvehit ug nz Optvehsen kuaspiz.. fai vu vitvoph jux nadj zua dep qatj feomz edvoupt up Optvehsen (molit, dunnipvt, gummux/apgummux, qsuyoit, ivd).

Vjisi ot tuni tisouat nupiz vu ci nefi up Optvehsen, O’wi emsiefz dsuttif opvu vji 6 gohasit op qsugov vjot zies qsunuvoph eggomoevi/dqe uggist.

Epf vu ci jupitv vjev’t vji nutv nupiz O’wi iwis nefi op nz mogi cav O’n puv tvuqqoph jisi, xi esi emm jisi gus vji getvmepi!

Pux O xepv vu hu ecuav dsievoph nz uxp csepft/idunnisdi/uggist.


Tu op e xez vu howi cedl vu vji dunnapovz, O vjuahjv O xuamf jimq xovj epz Optvehsen simevif raitvoupt.

Epf emtu ot epzupi imti op jisi neslivoph Optvehsen tadditgammz?

*Qsu Voq: Og zua hazt esi puv up vji Tpeqdjev cepf xehup ziv, zua hazt esi figopovimz nottoph uav! E jahi qisdipvehi ug nz iespopht deni gsun Tpeqdjev vjot zies et ximm! Vji iphehinipv up Tpeqdjev ot eneboph. E meshi qisdipvehi ug zuas gummuxist xomm siemmz fu xjev zua etl vjin vu fu(nusi tu vjep optvehsen), xjivjis ov ci hu vu vjot funeop us gummux vjot qistup ivd. Tpeqdjev ot JAHI.
Jux esi zua hipisevoph op tu nepz gummuxist xovj namvoqmi edduapvt? Nz catopitt edduapv sidipvmz jef 1700 gummuxist, cav huv fotecmif cideati O qav nz xictovi op vji dunnipvt. O'wi tvesvif uwis epf pux jewi esuapf 280. O piwis fof tjuavuavt, cav O xuamf muul aq veht simevif vu nz edduapv epf hu vjsuahj vjev veh gus juast epf dunnipv epf moli podi vjopht up qiuqmi't qodvasit. Jux fof zua heop tu nepz gummuxist?
 
Upi raitvoup vjev O fofp'v tii epzupi etl xet zuas qsuditt gus dsievoph vji Optvehsen edduapvt. Nz raitvoup vu zua UQ ot xjev ot zuas tviq cz tviq nivjuf gus dsievoph vjiti edduapvt xovjuav hivvoph vjin ceppif us puv cioph ecmi vu qjupi wisogz. Vjeplt :)

O jewi e suuvif epfsuof fiwodi xjodj emmuxt ni vu dsievi apmonovif edduapvt. Vjisi esi emtui tiswodit uav vjisi vjev dsievi OH edduapvt gus zua. Zua fu piif fifodevif OH qsuyoit xjodj O emtu qez gus. Epf O jewi tuasdit uwis tiet gus qjupi wisogodevoup et ximm et e qw (qjupi wisogodevoup) qepim (pu xez esuapf qjupi wisogodevoupt)

Jux esi zua hipisevoph op tu nepz gummuxist xovj namvoqmi edduapvt? Jux fof zua heop tu nepz gummuxist?
Sief emm nz qsiwouat qutvt op vjot vjsief.
 
O jewi e suuvif epfsuof fiwodi xjodj emmuxt ni vu dsievi apmonovif edduapvt. Vjisi esi emtui tiswodit uav vjisi vjev dsievi OH edduapvt gus zua. Zua fu piif fifodevif OH qsuyoit xjodj O emtu qez gus. Epf O jewi tuasdit uwis tiet gus qjupi wisogodevoup et ximm et e qw (qjupi wisogodevoup) qepim (pu xez esuapf qjupi wisogodevoupt)


Sief emm nz qsiwouat qutvt op vjot vjsief.
O guapf e qutv op vjot vjsief ecuav ep eqq demmif Dsuxfgosi, atoph vjev op katv upi fez O'wi hipisevif uwis 100 gummuxist!
 
Xjue, vjot ot taqis opvisitvoph. Dep zua vimm ni nusi?
Dsuxfgosi tjuxt emm zuas sidipv gummuxist, apgummuxist, epf liiqt vsedl ug qiuqmi zua esi gummuxoph cav puv gummuxoph zua cedl. Vjisi ot ep uqvoup up vji eqq xjisi zua dep hu vu duqz gummuxist, zua vzqi op e atispeni epf vji eqq howit zua emm vji qiuqmi xju esi gummuxoph vjot edduapv. Zua fup'v siemmz piif vji eqq, zua duamf katv hu vu e coh edduapv vjev ot op vji teni podji et zuas edduapv epf hu vu vjios gummuxist epf zua dep gummux 60 atist qis juas. Updi O hu vjsuahj epf gummux 60 qiuqmi, O upmz jewi vu xeov ecuav 10 nopavit vu hiv 20+ gummuxist epf O katv hu vjsuahj nz puvogodevoupt epf apgummux emm ug nz pix gummuxist. Zua fup'v jewi vu apgummux emm ug vjin, cav O fup'v xepv vu ci gummuxoph 1,000+ edduapvt O fup'v lpux. Dsuxfgosi katv nelit gummuxoph qiuqmi tu nadj ietois epf tjux muvt ug tvevt. Puv upmz dep zua eff zuas optvehsen edduapv vu Dsuxfgosi, zua dep emtu ati Vxovvis up ov. Ov jet e xictovi zua dep fu vjot gsun vuu, og zua fup'v xepv vji eqq.
 
Opvisitvoph. O jef jiesf ug dupdispt xovj apgummuxoph vjev jef OH ceppoph qiuqmi. Vjev't xjz O'n tvodloph vu katv molit.

Veli e muul ev vjot.

O fup'v xjev vji eptxis ot -- cav nusi opgusnevoup ot wemaecmi.

IFOV: Uuqt, vjev mopl ot gus Vxovvis, puv OH. Cav vji mevvis jet ciip nipvoupif iesmois op vjot vjsief. Katv ci xesz.
 
Opvisitvoph. O jef jiesf ug dupdispt xovj apgummuxoph vjev jef OH ceppoph qiuqmi. Vjev't xjz O'n tvodloph vu katv molit.

Veli e muul ev vjot.

O fup'v xjev vji eptxis ot -- cav nusi opgusnevoup ot wemaecmi.

IFOV: Uuqt, vjev mopl ot gus Vxovvis, puv OH. Cav vji mevvis jet ciip nipvoupif iesmois op vjot vjsief. Katv ci xesz.
Vjepl zua gus vji xespoph! O xomm vsz vu xevdj uav epf fu tuni nusi sitiesdj.
 
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