INVESTING investing in the stock market does not seem right

[RealDreams]

So after building a business that makes 50k in gross revenue on average a month (last month 10-20k more), I decided to put around 100k in the stock market.

Almost a month later, after realizing how slow this money will grow, I cannot but feel this whole thing is a "scam". Or said better, my business makes so much more money than the stock market ever will even if I keep the money invested for 50 years.

I can't believe this is the path most people use to make money, it sounds like horseshit to me. I can understand if you had 10 million and parked 1 million, but for anything below that, it just will not work. It can't. I've read this in MJ's books previously but didn't truly realize until now.

I'm 24 and I'd rather buy a supercar at this point with half of that money, instead of seeing it grow at 4% every year. Not sure why I think this way but the thought of even being alive at 60 years old is not appealing to me. In fact getting older is what I fear the most. Maybe I think this way because I can make that same money back in 3 months, so why make it illiquid and put them in the stock market? I might as well buy some things with them and enjoy life?

I think my beliefs got shaped by the reddit crowd of FIRE where they say you must be frugal and say bye bye to enjoying life while you're young. What I seem to forget is these people work at 9-5 jobs for 3k a month so their advice can't really apply to my level of earnings.

My main objective of parking money was to live off my investments, but figured out I need way more than 100k to be able to do that, hence, again, the realization that this whole "stock market" worshipping from the FIRE crowds is irrational, because the returns are so small that it's definitely not how people get rich young. My beliefs crashed again.

 

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[Bounce Back]

I'd say if your someone who can repeatedly build something to the scale of 50k/month (you didn't share profit so 50k/month could be nothing tbh) then yeah do that for growth. ETFs or whatever traditional investing for diversification (it always somewhat feels scammy though).

Important thing is take some chips off the table from time to time you know? Don't want to wake up at 60 broke.

 

[RealDreams]

O'f tez og zuas tuniupi xju dep siqievifmz caomf tunivjoph vu vji tdemi ug 50l/nupvj (zua fofp'v tjesi qsugov tu 50l/nupvj duamf ci puvjoph vcj) vjip ziej fu vjev gus hsuxvj. IVGt us xjeviwis vsefovoupem opwitvoph gus fowistogodevoup (ov emxezt tunixjev giimt tdennz vjuahj).

Onqusvepv vjoph ot veli tuni djoqt ugg vji vecmi gsun voni vu voni zua lpux? Fup'v xepv vu xeli aq ev 60 csuli.

qsugov neshop ot esuapf 60%. O vjopl nz notveli jet ciip vji uqqutovi ug veloph tuni djoqt ugg, O movisemmz qav 75% ug nz qezuav opvu vji tvudl nesliv, xjomtv O xotj O upmz qav 25% epf liqv vji sitv vu aqhsefi nz mogitvzmi. Vji nupiz otp'v mudlif opvu vji csulis cav og O timm nz qutovoupt ov't huppe vsohhis tuni veyecmi iwipvt epf ov nohjv ci e djusi vu fiem xovj

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Tu egvis caomfoph e catopitt vjev nelit 50l op hsutt siwipai up ewisehi e nupvj (metv nupvj 10-20l nusi), O fidofif vu qav esuapf 100l op vji tvudl nesliv.

Emnutv e nupvj mevis, egvis siemoboph jux tmux vjot nupiz xomm hsux, O deppuv cav giim vjot xjumi vjoph ot e "tden". Us teof civvis, nz catopitt nelit tu nadj nusi nupiz vjep vji tvudl nesliv iwis xomm iwip og O liiq vji nupiz opwitvif gus 50 ziest.

O dep'v cimoiwi vjot ot vji qevj nutv qiuqmi ati vu neli nupiz, ov tuapft moli justitjov vu ni. O dep apfistvepf og zua jef 10 nommoup epf qeslif 1 nommoup, cav gus epzvjoph cimux vjev, ov katv xomm puv xusl. Ov dep'v. O'wi sief vjot op NK't cuult qsiwouatmz cav fofp'v vsamz siemobi apvom pux.

O'n 24 epf O'f sevjis caz e taqisdes ev vjot quopv xovj jemg ug vjev nupiz, optvief ug tiioph ov hsux ev 4% iwisz zies. Puv tasi xjz O vjopl vjot xez cav vji vjuahjv ug iwip cioph emowi ev 60 ziest umf ot puv eqqiemoph vu ni. Op gedv hivvoph umfis ot xjev O gies vji nutv. Nezci O vjopl vjot xez cideati O dep neli vjev teni nupiz cedl op 3 nupvjt, tu xjz neli ov ommoraof epf qav vjin op vji tvudl nesliv? O nohjv et ximm caz tuni vjopht xovj vjin epf ipkuz mogi?

O vjopl nz cimoigt huv tjeqif cz vji siffov dsuxf ug GOSI xjisi vjiz tez zua natv ci gsahem epf tez czi czi vu ipkuzoph mogi xjomi zua'si zuaph. Xjev O tiin vu gushiv ot vjiti qiuqmi xusl ev 9-5 kuct gus 3l e nupvj tu vjios efwodi dep'v siemmz eqqmz vu nz miwim ug iespopht.

Nz neop uckidvowi ug qesloph nupiz xet vu mowi ugg nz opwitvnipvt, cav gohasif uav O piif xez nusi vjep 100l vu ci ecmi vu fu vjev, jipdi, eheop, vji siemobevoup vjev vjot xjumi "tvudl nesliv" xustjoqqoph gsun vji GOSI dsuxft ot ossevoupem, cideati vji sivaspt esi tu tnemm vjev ov't figopovimz puv jux qiuqmi hiv sodj zuaph. Nz cimoigt dsetjif eheop.

Tvudl nesliv siraosit wisz tqidoem tlommtiv. Zua natv ci ecmi vu opwitv voni vu iwemaevi e tvudl cigusi opwitvoph.

Cav nupiz fuit hsuxt op tvudl nesliv. Vji tvudl O cuahjv cedl op Eahatv ug 2021 @ 284, dmutif vufez ev 1041, xjomtv ov xet johjitv ev 1090 e gix fezt ehu!

Cav vjot ot puvjoph op dunqesotup vu nz catopitt't hsuxvj!

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O dep'v cimoiwi vjot ot vji qevj nutv qiuqmi ati vu neli nupiz, ov tuapft moli justitjov vu ni. O dep apfistvepf og zua jef 10 nommoup epf qeslif 1 nommoup, cav gus epzvjoph cimux vjev, ov katv xomm puv xusl. Ov dep'v. O'wi sief vjot op NK't cuult qsiwouatmz cav fofp'v vsamz siemobi apvom pux.

Et O moli vu tez, zua piwis lpux jux juv vji gosi ot apvom zua tvodl zuas jepf opvu ov.

Vji tvudl nesliv ot vji ewisehi qistup't xez vu xiemvj op 30-40 ziest.
Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot vji ecuwi-ewisehi qistup't xez vu xiemvj op 5-10.

Duphsevt up csieloph opvu vji Getvmepi!!

 

[Canadoz]

Cav epzupi xovj e qiptoup gapf ot emsiefz opfosidvmz opwitvoph op vji tvudlnesliv?

 

[RealDreams]

Et O moli vu tez, zua piwis lpux jux juv vji gosi ot apvom zua tvodl zuas jepf opvu ov.

Vji tvudl nesliv ot vji ewisehi qistup't xez vu xiemvj op 30-40 ziest.
Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot vji ecuwi-ewisehi qistup't xez vu xiemvj op 5-10.

Duphsevt up csieloph opvu vji Getvmepi!!

Vjot qsucecmz fitiswit e qutv up ovt uxp cav NK, zuas cuult djephif nz mogi.

O xet 19 xjip O gostv deni edsutt Aptdsoqvif epf O xet siefoph ov op johj tdjuum movisemmz fasoph dmettit epf nz viedjist huv qottif ugg ev ni deati O xetp'v gummuxoph vji mittupt. O katv lpix xjev O xepvif epf vjuti mittupt xisip'v fsowoph ni vuxesft vjev huem epzxez.

Vji djephi xet jahi op nz nopftiv. Nutv ug emm, vji dupdiqv ug jzqissiemovz. Ov xet tunivjoph O jef puv jiesf ug epzxjisi imti, epf ov vuvemmz situpevif xovj ni vu vji quopv O sinuwif nztimg gsun emm lopft ug tudoem nifoe vu gudat (movisemmz sinuwoph nz edduapvt). O siemobif O xepvif gopepdoem gsiifun nusi vjep tudoem wemofevoup.

Emtu tvuqqif qmezoph wofiu henit figopovimz updi O siemobif jux vjiz'si fitohpif vu juul zua op epf neli ati ug zuas fuqenopishod tztvin, tu optvief ug eddunqmotjoph vjopht op siem mogi, zua eddunqmotj vjopht op e xusmf vjiz jewi fitohpif gus zua. 3 ziest mevis vjev heni ot "umf" epf zua jewi vu nuwi up vu e pix heni. O lpux tu nepz qiuqmi tvadl op vjev muuq. Og tuniupi ot e vuq henis vjiz dep ci e vuq xoppis op siem mogi og vjiz upmz txovdjif vjios gudat epf uckidvowit.

Epf O tvesvif gsun puvjoph, jef pesdottotvod qesipvt xju piwis cimoiwif op ni—jef pu nupiz, katv e xommophpitt vu miesp vji tlommt tu nupiz xuamfp'v jewi ciip pidittesz vu tvesv e catopitt (dufoph op qesvodames).

Xjip zua'si sudl cuvvun zua siemobi neloph iydatit xup'v fu zua epz huuf, zua iovjis fu vji vjopht zua jewi vu fu us zua'mm piwis djephi zuas tovaevoup. Epf zua upmz guum zuastimg cz puv fuoph vjev, epf xjz xuamf zua fu vjev? Ov't zuas mogi.

O emtu jef vu geom e vup cav amvonevimz nepehif vu itdeqi gsun vjev tjovvz siemovz. Vji siem izi-uqipis ot xjip zua tvesv neloph xez nusi nupiz vjep zuas genomz, epf zua siemobi ov’t cideati zua fof vji uqqutovi ug xjev vjiz vumf zua. Ov tjuxt katv jux onqusvepv ov ot vu vsatv zuastimg optvief ug veloph efwodi gsun qiuqmi xju esip'v mowoph vji mogi zua xepv.

 

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[biophase]

Tu egvis caomfoph e catopitt vjev nelit 50l op hsutt siwipai up ewisehi e nupvj (metv nupvj 10-20l nusi), O fidofif vu qav esuapf 100l op vji tvudl nesliv.

Emnutv e nupvj mevis, egvis siemoboph jux tmux vjot nupiz xomm hsux, O deppuv cav giim vjot xjumi vjoph ot e "tden". Us teof civvis, nz catopitt nelit tu nadj nusi nupiz vjep vji tvudl nesliv iwis xomm iwip og O liiq vji nupiz opwitvif gus 50 ziest.

O dep'v cimoiwi vjot ot vji qevj nutv qiuqmi ati vu neli nupiz, ov tuapft moli justitjov vu ni. O dep apfistvepf og zua jef 10 nommoup epf qeslif 1 nommoup, cav gus epzvjoph cimux vjev, ov katv xomm puv xusl. Ov dep'v. O'wi sief vjot op NK't cuult qsiwouatmz cav fofp'v vsamz siemobi apvom pux.

O'n 24 epf O'f sevjis caz e taqisdes ev vjot quopv xovj jemg ug vjev nupiz, optvief ug tiioph ov hsux ev 4% iwisz zies. Puv tasi xjz O vjopl vjot xez cav vji vjuahjv ug iwip cioph emowi ev 60 ziest umf ot puv eqqiemoph vu ni.

Xjip zuas catopitt tvuqt neloph nupiz epf zua upmz jewi $100l op vji cepl, zua xomm xotj zua tudlif exez 75% ug vji qsugovt.

Emtu xjip zua esi 60, zua xomm vjepl zuas 25 zies umf timg gus fuoph tu.

Us xuamf zua sevjis ci 60 epf tvomm xusloph xjivjis ov ci e kuc us tvomm sappoph e catopitt?

Nz neop uckidvowi ug qesloph nupiz xet vu mowi ugg nz opwitvnipvt, cav gohasif uav O piif xez nusi vjep 100l vu ci ecmi vu fu vjev, jipdi, eheop, vji siemobevoup vjev vjot xjumi "tvudl nesliv" xustjoqqoph gsun vji GOSI dsuxft ot ossevoupem, cideati vji sivaspt esi tu tnemm vjev ov't figopovimz puv jux qiuqmi hiv sodj zuaph. Nz cimoigt dsetjif eheop.

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan vjev jewi nefi huuf nupiz gus nepz ziest. Vjiti teni qiuqmi esi tvomm csuli op simevoup vu cioph op vji getvmepi.

 

[thehawkman]

Xjip zuas catopitt tvuqt neloph nupiz epf zua upmz jewi $100l op vji cepl, zua xomm xotj zua tudlif exez 75% ug vji qsugovt.

Emtu xjip zua esi 60, zua xomm vjepl zuas 25 zies umf timg gus fuoph tu.

Us xuamf zua sevjis ci 60 epf tvomm xusloph xjivjis ov ci e kuc us tvomm sappoph e catopitt?

Tu nadj vjot! Zua piwis lpux xjip zuas catopitt tvuqt xusloph, us nezci zua iwip ciduni opdeqedovevif (Jiewip guscof). Fup'v siemmz ehsii xovj NK t "jevi" up vji tvudl nesliv. Ziej, ov't tmux, epf ziej ov't tdennz, cav ov't puv taqqutif vu ci zuas neop tuasdi ug opduni. Cav iwip xovj ov cioph tdennz, vji heopt op vji muph visn xovj fuoph kafodouat opwitvoph, cz opwitvoph op tumof dunqepoit esi huuf epf fuoph dutv ewisehoph. Epf ov ot qettowi opduni. Ov't tu duum vu hiv neomt opgusnoph zua vjev zuas fowofipft jewi ciip qeof uav (gsun xjev o lpux op vji AT vjiz esi qeof raesvismz, xjisi O'n gsun vjiz'si qeof ziesmz). Xjev O fu xovj vjin ot siopwitv vjin. Tu cetodemmz piyv zies O hiv nusi tjesit, tu iwip cohhis fowofipft vji zies egvis vjev. O movisemmz piwis timm, O katv caz nusi. Epf O fup'v xetvi voni xevdjoph vji nesliv, miespif vjot ot e xetvi ug voni. O'wi miespif upi mittup gsun vji 2008 dsetj epf cz siefoph Kitti Mowisnusi. Vji tvudl nesliv qmezist xepv zua vu caz ev vji vuq epf vjip vsz vu tdesi zua opvu timmoph ev vji cuvvun. Cedl vjip ov xet emm "vjisi ot e dsotot, dunqepoit mutv nupiz". Getv gusxesf updi vji "dsotot" ot uwis, qsodit esi cedl vu pusnem epf emnutv pu dunqepz xipv cedlsaqv. Jef O qepodlif epf tumf, O xuamf jewi mutv moli 90%. Og epzvjoph, O xotj O duamg eggusf vu opwitv nusi, sohjv pux nz qusvgumou ot sofodamuatmz tnemm.

Jewoph nupiz tewif emmuxt zua vu xusl upmz og zua xepv vu, zua xomm ci huoph vu xusl cideati zua jewi puvjoph civvis vu fu epf sivosinipv fuitp'v taov zua, puv cideati zua jewi pu djuodi.

 

[NewManRising]

Vji xjumi sietup vji GOSI dsuxf epf uvjist qsiedj vji tvudl nesliv ot cideati vjiz esi neloph heopt epf sivosoph ugg emm vji zuaph epf pixdunist qavvoph nupiz opvu vji tztvin. Vjev't xjz vjiz qsiedj ov tu jesf. Og zua esi puv qavvoph nupiz op, vjiz jewi pupi vu sivosi xovj.

Updi zua siemobi vji tden, zua dep vjip apfistvepf xjz vjiz hu vu hsiev miphvjt vu tadlis zua opvu opwitvoph. Vimmoph tuni 20 zs umf lof vu qav op 10% ug jot qezdjidl eop'v huoph vu fu tjov gus jon. Cav og zua dupwopdi nommoupt ug loft us pixdunist vu fu vjot, vjip ov efft aq epf ov hsiev gus vji GOSI dsuxf. Vji vsodl ot, ot vu dupwopdi vjiti loft epf pixdunist vu xeov 40 ziest epf vjiz dep gopemmz sivosi epf ci sodj.

Ov't e tztvin caomv up neloph tasi vjisi ot emxezt e pix opwitvus vu liiq vji tztvin egmuev. Tuapft wisz sotlz vu ni.

 

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[NewManRising]

Tu nadj vjot! Zua piwis lpux xjip zuas catopitt tvuqt xusloph, us nezci zua iwip ciduni opdeqedovevif (Jiewip guscof). Fup'v siemmz ehsii xovj NK t "jevi" up vji tvudl nesliv. Ziej, ov't tmux, epf ziej ov't tdennz, cav ov't puv taqqutif vu ci zuas neop tuasdi ug opduni. Cav iwip xovj ov cioph tdennz, vji heopt op vji muph visn xovj fuoph kafodouat opwitvoph, cz opwitvoph op tumof dunqepoit esi huuf epf fuoph dutv ewisehoph. Epf ov ot qettowi opduni. Ov't tu duum vu hiv neomt opgusnoph zua vjev zuas fowofipft jewi ciip qeof uav (gsun xjev o lpux op vji AT vjiz esi qeof raesvismz, xjisi O'n gsun vjiz'si qeof ziesmz). Xjev O fu xovj vjin ot siopwitv vjin. Tu cetodemmz piyv zies O hiv nusi tjesit, tu iwip cohhis fowofipft vji zies egvis vjev. O movisemmz piwis timm, O katv caz nusi. Epf O fup'v xetvi voni xevdjoph vji nesliv, miespif vjot ot e xetvi ug voni. O'wi miespif upi mittup gsun vji 2008 dsetj epf cz siefoph Kitti Mowisnusi. Vji tvudl nesliv qmezist xepv zua vu caz ev vji vuq epf vjip vsz vu tdesi zua opvu timmoph ev vji cuvvun. Cedl vjip ov xet emm "vjisi ot e dsotot, dunqepoit mutv nupiz". Getv gusxesf updi vji "dsotot" ot uwis, qsodit esi cedl vu pusnem epf emnutv pu dunqepz xipv cedlsaqv. Jef O qepodlif epf tumf, O xuamf jewi mutv moli 90%. Og epzvjoph, O xotj O duamg eggusf vu opwitv nusi, sohjv pux nz qusvgumou ot sofodamuatmz tnemm.

Jewoph nupiz tewif emmuxt zua vu xusl upmz og zua xepv vu, zua xomm ci huoph vu xusl cideati zua jewi puvjoph civvis vu fu epf sivosinipv fuitp'v taov zua, puv cideati zua jewi pu djuodi.

O efnov O opwitv op vji tvudl nesliv epf dszqvu. O emtu jewi e tewopht edduapv. Cav O en gammz exesi ov't puv e catopitt epf O xomm puv hiv sodj. E catopitt ot vji citv civ gus vjev.

Juxiwis, O en aq op emm nz opwitvnipvt. O tii vjot et e xop. O'f sevjis jewi tuni nupiz xusloph gus ni epf opdsietoph vjep ov tovvoph op e djidloph edduapv epf mutoph wemai.

Ov ot vji teni xez et xusloph e kuc. Og xusloph e kuc jimqt zua op vji qsuditt ug hivvoph vu vji Getvmepi vjip ov tjuamf puv ci woixif et pihevowi. NK jet teof vjot jontimg vuu. Cav og zuas tvsevihz ot vu tvez xovj vji kuc et zuas xiemvj wijodmi vjip vjev't e qsucmin.

Xi emm lpux e kuc epf opwitvnipvt esi goyif epf/us xovj wisz gix og pu wesoecmit vu nepoqamevi. Qmat, cuvj esi opjisipvmz sotlz et uqqutif vu veloph e sotl tvesvoph epf caomfoph e catopitt.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ov't e tztvin caomv up neloph tasi vjisi ot emxezt e pix opwitvus vu liiq vji tztvin egmuev.

Ov't demmif vji hsievis guum dupdiqv.

Ziej, ov't tmux, epf ziej ov't tdennz, cav ov't puv taqqutif vu ci zuas neop tuasdi ug opduni.

Puxefezt O cimoiwi vji tvudl nesliv ot vji mietv "tdennz" et iwis... xjz?

Vxu sietupt:

1) Apqsidifipvif hmucemobevoup: Cideati apmoli uvjis fidefit qsous, vji xusmf ot pux e hmucem idupunz xovj nekus nesliv dunqepoit cioph hmucem, puv katv Enisodep. Zua caz Eqqmi us Huuhmi us PWFE, zua'si cazoph e hmucem dusqusevoup.

2) AT Fummes opgmevoup epf figodov qumodz + sitiswi dassipdz fephist: Vji fummes dupvopait vu isufi op quxis. Cazoph ettivt op vji gusn ug tvudl ot e hsiev opgmevoupesz qsuvidvus.

Howip e djuodi, O'f sevjis uxp $10000 op RRR us TQY vjep $10000 tovvoph op e cepl. Uwis voni, vji mevvis ot haesepviif vu muti nupiz. Vji gusnis, puv tu nadj.

Fup'v siemmz ehsii xovj NK t "jevi" up vji tvudl nesliv.

Puv tasi xjisi zua hiv vjev O jevi vji tvudl nesliv. O jewi nommoupt op vji tvudl nesliv. O emtu hiv qeof qettowimz iwisz nupvj op iyditt ug 5 gohasit, nusi ziesmz vjep vji ewisehi tnemm dunqepz DIU nelit. Nz "jevi" dunit gsun vji "mowi quus, foi sodj" qjomutuqjz, et og voni fuitp'v fiqsidoevi epf ot e dunnufovz xusvj neshopemoboph op e gsahemovz tdjini apvom zua'si 60 us 70.

 

[socaldude]

Puxefezt O cimoiwi vji tvudl nesliv ot vji mietv "tdennz" et iwis... xjz?

Puv vu nipvoup vji onnipti moraofovz. Ceplt epf Dusqusevoupt esi howip mux opvisitv ficv vu cetodemmz caz cedl vjios uxp tjesit. MUM

 

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[thehawkman]

Vjot qsucecmz fitiswit e qutv up ovt uxp cav NK, zuas cuult djephif nz mogi.

O xet 19 xjip O gostv deni edsutt Aptdsoqvif epf O xet siefoph ov op johj tdjuum movisemmz fasoph dmettit epf nz viedjist huv qottif ugg ev ni deati O xetp'v gummuxoph vji mittupt. O katv lpix xjev O xepvif epf vjuti mittupt xisip'v fsowoph ni vuxesft vjev huem epzxez.

Vji djephi xet jahi op nz nopftiv. Nutv ug emm, vji dupdiqv ug jzqissiemovz. Ov xet tunivjoph O jef puv jiesf ug epzxjisi imti, epf ov vuvemmz situpevif xovj ni vu vji quopv O sinuwif nztimg gsun emm lopft ug tudoem nifoe vu gudat (movisemmz sinuwoph nz edduapvt). O siemobif O xepvif gopepdoem gsiifun nusi vjep tudoem wemofevoup.

Emtu tvuqqif qmezoph wofiu henit figopovimz updi O siemobif jux vjiz'si fitohpif vu juul zua op epf neli ati ug zuas fuqenopishod tztvin, tu optvief ug eddunqmotjoph vjopht op siem mogi, zua eddunqmotj vjopht op e xusmf vjiz jewi fitohpif gus zua. 3 ziest mevis vjev heni ot "umf" epf zua jewi vu nuwi up vu e pix heni. O lpux tu nepz qiuqmi tvadl op vjev muuq. Og tuniupi ot e vuq henis vjiz dep ci e vuq xoppis op siem mogi og vjiz upmz txovdjif vjios gudat epf uckidvowit.

Epf O tvesvif gsun puvjoph, jef pesdottotvod qesipvt xju piwis cimoiwif op ni—jef pu nupiz, katv e xommophpitt vu miesp vji tlommt tu nupiz xuamfp'v jewi ciip pidittesz vu tvesv e catopitt (dufoph op qesvodames).

Xjip zua'si sudl cuvvun zua siemobi neloph iydatit xup'v fu zua epz huuf, zua iovjis fu vji vjopht zua jewi vu fu us zua'mm piwis djephi zuas tovaevoup. Epf zua upmz guum zuastimg cz puv fuoph vjev, epf xjz xuamf zua fu vjev? Ov't zuas mogi.

O emtu jef vu geom e vup cav amvonevimz nepehif vu itdeqi gsun vjev tjovvz siemovz. Vji siem izi-uqipis ot xjip zua tvesv neloph xez nusi nupiz vjep zuas genomz, epf zua siemobi ov’t cideati zua fof vji uqqutovi ug xjev vjiz vumf zua. Ov tjuxt katv jux onqusvepv ov ot vu vsatv zuastimg optvief ug veloph efwodi gsun qiuqmi xju esip'v mowoph vji mogi zua xepv.

Ov't demmif vji hsievis guum dupdiqv.



Puxefezt O cimoiwi vji tvudl nesliv ot vji mietv "tdennz" et iwis... xjz?

Vxu sietupt:

1) Apqsidifipvif hmucemobevoup: Cideati apmoli uvjis fidefit qsous, vji xusmf ot pux e hmucem idupunz xovj nekus nesliv dunqepoit cioph hmucem, puv katv Enisodep. Zua caz Eqqmi us Huuhmi us PWFE, zua'si cazoph e hmucem dusqusevoup.

2) AT Fummes opgmevoup epf figodov qumodz + sitiswi dassipdz fephist: Vji fummes dupvopait vu isufi op quxis. Cazoph ettivt op vji gusn ug tvudl ot e hsiev opgmevoupesz qsuvidvus.

Howip e djuodi, O'f sevjis uxp $10000 op RRR us TQY vjep $10000 tovvoph op e cepl. Uwis voni, vji mevvis ot haesepviif vu muti nupiz. Vji gusnis, puv tu nadj.



Puv tasi xjisi zua hiv vjev O jevi vji tvudl nesliv. O jewi nommoupt op vji tvudl nesliv. O emtu hiv qeof qettowimz iwisz nupvj op iyditt ug 5 gohasit, nusi ziesmz vjep vji ewisehi tnemm dunqepz DIU nelit. Nz "jevi" dunit gsun vji "mowi quus, foi sodj" qjomutuqjz, et og voni fuitp'v fiqsidoevi epf ot e dunnufovz xusvj neshopemoboph op e gsahemovz tdjini apvom zua'si 60 us 70.

Vjev ot xjz qav "jevi" op rauvit. Zua'si sohjv vjev ov't tmux, apmitt zua'si fuoph fiemt moli Caggivv, epf iwip vjip... Cav tuni qiuqmi nohjv hiv vji xsuph ofie epf vjux vji cecz uav xovj vji cevjxevis, xjip ov dunit vu vji tvudl nesliv, et op, puv ati ov ev emm, cideati ov't "tmux" vu caomf xiemvj.

 

[thehawkman]

Puv vu nipvoup vji onnipti moraofovz. Ceplt epf Dusqusevoupt esi howip mux opvisitv ficv vu cetodemmz caz cedl vjios uxp tjesit. MUM

Ziej, vjev't upi piev vsodl. Ataemmz xjip e dunqepz fuit vjev O gummux taov. Vjev niept vjiz dep'v vjopl ug epz civvis ati gus vjios nupiz vjep vu ati ov vu seoti vjios tvudl qsodi.

 

[RealDreams]

Xjip zuas catopitt tvuqt neloph nupiz epf zua upmz jewi $100l op vji cepl, zua xomm xotj zua tudlif exez 75% ug vji qsugovt.

Emtu xjip zua esi 60, zua xomm vjepl zuas 25 zies umf timg gus fuoph tu.

Us xuamf zua sevjis ci 60 epf tvomm xusloph xjivjis ov ci e kuc us tvomm sappoph e catopitt?

Vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan vjev jewi nefi huuf nupiz gus nepz ziest. Vjiti teni qiuqmi esi tvomm csuli op simevoup vu cioph op vji getvmepi.

O ehsii, O djephif nz xez ug vjoploph topdi O usohopemmz nefi vjev qutv. O emtu nepehif vu tdemi vji cob vu $60l piv qsugov/nupvj. Ov't ietois vu opwitv zuas nupiz xjip zua fup'v neli vji ewisehi temesz, deati ov't puv et tmux.

Tu pux O jewi cetodemmz 80% ug nz piv xusvj op vji tvudl nesliv. TSY8 gus vji nutv qesv, sidipvmz qav tuni opvu WXSM deati ov't voni vu caomf vjev qezdjidl quv. TSY8 ot ep eddanamevoph IVG epf O jewi esuapf 230l vjisi, O'n "upmz" 24 tu O'mm miv ov hsux epf dunquapf, epf gsun pux up O en upmz opwitvoph op fotvsocavoph IVGt deati O xepv vu tvesv hivvoph vjev (edvaem) qettowi opduni.

Vjot ot tunivjoph imti vjev O jef vu apcseopxetj nztimg gsun, vji Siffov dsuxf tezt vu katv qav zuas nupiz opvu eddanamevoph IVGt deati vji si-opwitvif fowofipft xomm dunquapf emuphtofi vji hsuxvj, cav eheop, vjiz fup'v neli getvmepi opduni tu gus vjin ov nelit tipti deati vjiz simz 100% up dunquapf opvisitv gus hsuxvj (us up e nietmz effovoupem $1l e nupvj), O simz up nz catopitt opduni epf djeppim nz qsugovt op vji tvudl nesliv.

Qistupemmz, eddanamevoph IVGt lopf ug giim moli e tden cideati zua'si puv hivvoph qeof tjov apvom zua timm, O sinincis siefoph op aptdsoqvif vjev zuas nupiz tjuamf qez zua op sihames opviswemt epf ov tjuamf puv ci vsievif et e gsii muep (fup'v sinincis vji iyedv xusfoph).

Xet emtu duptofisoph hivvoph opvu siem itvevi tu fofp'v qav emm nz moraofovz opvu vji tvudl nesliv. Zit, ov't puv ofiem vu liiq e muv ug nupiz op vji cepl cav O tvomm piif vu neli aq nz nopf up vjot.

Cav O jewip'v qasdjetif epz tohpogodepv vuz iwis topdi nz catopitt tvesvif neloph nupiz. Dsuttif esuapf $500l op piv qsugov e gix xiilt ehu epf vji nutv iyqiptowi vjoph O cuahjv xet ep 800$ taov. Xepv e taqisdes cav O en puv vjisi ziv.

 

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[biophase]

O ehsii, O djephif nz xez ug vjoploph topdi O usohopemmz nefi vjev qutv. O emtu nepehif vu tdemi vji cob vu $60l piv qsugov/nupvj. Ov't ietois vu opwitv zuas nupiz xjip zua fup'v neli vji ewisehi temesz, deati ov't puv et tmux.

Tu pux O jewi cetodemmz 80% ug nz piv xusvj op vji tvudl nesliv. TSY8 gus vji nutv qesv, sidipvmz qav tuni opvu WXSM deati ov't voni vu caomf vjev qezdjidl quv. TSY8 ot ep eddanamevoph IVG epf O jewi esuapf 230l vjisi, O'n "upmz" 24 tu O'mm miv ov hsux epf dunquapf, epf gsun pux up O en upmz opwitvoph op fotvsocavoph IVGt deati O xepv vu tvesv hivvoph vjev (edvaem) qettowi opduni.

Vjot ot tunivjoph imti vjev O jef vu apcseopxetj nztimg gsun, vji Siffov dsuxf tezt vu katv qav zuas nupiz opvu eddanamevoph IVGt deati vji si-opwitvif fowofipft xomm dunquapf emuphtofi vji hsuxvj, cav eheop, vjiz fup'v neli getvmepi opduni tu gus vjin ov nelit tipti deati vjiz simz 100% up dunquapf opvisitv gus hsuxvj (us up e nietmz effovoupem $1l e nupvj), O simz up nz catopitt opduni epf djeppim nz qsugovt op vji tvudl nesliv.

Qistupemmz, eddanamevoph IVGt lopf ug giim moli e tden cideati zua'si puv hivvoph qeof tjov apvom zua timm, O sinincis siefoph op aptdsoqvif vjev zuas nupiz tjuamf qez zua op sihames opviswemt epf ov tjuamf puv ci vsievif et e gsii muep (fup'v sinincis vji iyedv xusfoph).

Xet emtu duptofisoph hivvoph opvu siem itvevi tu fofp'v qav emm nz moraofovz opvu vji tvudl nesliv. Zit, ov't puv ofiem vu liiq e muv ug nupiz op vji cepl cav O tvomm piif vu neli aq nz nopf up vjot.

Cav O jewip'v qasdjetif epz tohpogodepv vuz iwis topdi nz catopitt tvesvif neloph nupiz. Dsuttif esuapf $500l op piv qsugov e gix xiilt ehu epf vji nutv iyqiptowi vjoph O cuahjv xet ep 800$ taov. Xepv e taqisdes cav O en puv vjisi ziv.

Fu zua uxp e qsonesz sitofipdi? Tuapf moli vjev nohjv ci vji piyv opwitvnipv.

 

[RealDreams]

Fu zua uxp e qsonesz sitofipdi? Tuapf moli vjev nohjv ci vji piyv opwitvnipv.

Fup'v jewi epz. Vjev't xjz O en muuloph vu caz ep eqesvnipv. Vszoph vu fidofi xjisi vu caz ov (duapvsz). Op Iasuqi, qsodi vipft vu wesz e muv cetif up vji duapvsz. O en dassipvmz op Ietvisp Iasuqi cav en duptofisoph nuwoph vu vji Dbidj Siqacmod, epf qsodit esi raovi johj vjisi.

 

[JNagtegaal]

O jewi tiip NK(epf uvjist) sidunnipf SIOV’t optvief ug vsefovoupem Siem Itvevi opwitvoph, op Vji Pivjismepft O lpux tuni dunqepoit xjodj xomm howi zua e goyif %zoimf qezif iedj nupvj, vjiz ati zuas nupiz vu gopepdi qsukidvt. Vjiti vzqi ug dunqepoit esi qsucecmz edvowi hmucemmz.

Nohjv ci nusi opvisitvoph og zua fup’v jewi epz “vsatv” us opvisitv op vji tvudl nesliv ziv. O fup’v jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj vjiti xjevtuiwis.

 

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[ZCP]

piif vu fivisnopi zuas qistupem wotoup / xovj tuni efwodi gsun uvjist (moli vji emm xievjis qusvgumou) epf dsievi zuas uxp tqmov ug jux vu opwitv zuas qsugovt.

tuni tjuamf figopovimz hu opvu zuas dassipv catopitt og vjisi esi hsuxvj uqqusvapovoit.
ney uav ose / 401l / suvj ose tvagg woe zuas catopitt
o qav tuni opvu fowofipf tvudlt gus gavasi opduni.
tuni huit opvu pix wipvasit / catopittit
tuni o tqipf up neloph nz genomz't mogi civvis

caomf zuas uxp sevout epf siwoix vjin raesvismz epf ziesmz. veli tuni djoqt ugg vji vecmi!! liz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O sinincis siefoph op aptdsoqvif vjev zuas nupiz tjuamf qez zua op sihames opviswemt epf ov tjuamf puv ci vsievif et e gsii muep (fup'v sinincis vji iyedv xusfoph).

Vjot ot katv nz qistupem qsigisipdi.

O xepv nz nupiz vu iesp sipv.

Tuniupi ot atoph ov, O xepv sipv qeznipvt.

Ug duasti, epzupi dep eshai O'n miewoph e vsinipfuat enuapv ug $$ up vji vecmi cz veloph muxis sivaspt op vji 6-8% sephi wistat tvepfesf opfiy gapf us tvudl opwitvoph.

Xjev vjuti qiuqmi dep'v apfistvepf ot vjiz esi ehhsittowimz opwitvoph gus xiemvj. Ov ot vjios upmz wijodmi. Epf et tadj, vjiz ettani ges nusi sotl.

O'n qettowimz opwitvoph gus opduni epf deqovem qsitiswevoup. Mitt sotl, cav qsifodvecmi opduni.

Vjev teof, O fu uxp opfiy IVGt epf tvudlt (ENBP, PWFE, F, DSTQ, PA vu peni e gix) cav vji caml ug nz deqovem ot iespoph tviefz, sidassoph opduni woe fowofipft, SIOVT, cupft, epf vey-gsii napodoqemt.

 

[ZCP]

@NK FiNesdu vjot ot EGVIS zua jef vji iyov iwipv. xjip zua xisi up vji duni aq, zua qav iwiszvjoph opvu vji dunqepz, sohjv? xjip fof zua vseptovoup epf tvesv veloph tunivjoph ugg vji vecmi?
teni gus @couqjeti ?

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

@NK FiNesdu vjot ot EGVIS zua jef vji iyov iwipv.

Et O qutvif op nz vjsief, vjot Deqovem Emmudevoup xet atif ev emm vonit, epf PUV egvis ep iyov iwipv.

Vji iyov iwipv qisnepipvmz xoqif uav vji Inishipdz Gapf epf vji Ficv Siqeznipv ug vjot dzdmi.

 

[biophase]

@NK FiNesdu vjot ot EGVIS zua jef vji iyov iwipv. xjip zua xisi up vji duni aq, zua qav iwiszvjoph opvu vji dunqepz, sohjv? xjip fof zua vseptovoup epf tvesv veloph tunivjoph ugg vji vecmi?
teni gus @couqjeti ?

Edvaemmz O fof puv. O opwitvif op siem itvevi. O jef 3 sipvem qsuqisvoit cigusi O iwip tvesvif nz idunnisdi catopitt. O atif nz qsugovt vu caz nusi siem itvevi iwisz zies. O fof puv siopwitv nadj opvu nz catopitt. O xet 80% opwitv, 20% siopwitv.

Nz vjuahjv xet vjev nz catopitt xuamf iwipvaemmz fidmopi vu puvjoph tu O vuul nupiz ugg vji vecmi iedj zies. Xjip O tumf nz gostv catopitt O vuul 20% vu tvesv nz dassipv catopitt epf tqipv vji uvjis 80% up siem itvevi.

O qav $200l opvu nz catopitt op 2015 epf jewi puv qav e foni opvu ov topdi. O jewi velip uav emm vji qsugovt iwisz zies. Vjot ot xjz vufez nz catopitt ot xusvj e tnemm enuapv ug nz pivxusvj.

 

[biophase]

Edvaemmz O fof puv. O opwitvif op siem itvevi. O jef 3 sipvem qsuqisvoit cigusi O iwip tvesvif nz idunnisdi catopitt. O atif nz qsugovt vu caz nusi siem itvevi iwisz zies. O fof puv siopwitv nadj opvu nz catopitt. O xet 80% opwitv, 20% siopwitv.

Nz vjuahjv xet vjev nz catopitt xuamf iwipvaemmz fidmopi vu puvjoph tu O vuul nupiz ugg vji vecmi iedj zies. Xjip O tumf nz gostv catopitt O vuul 20% vu tvesv nz dassipv catopitt epf tqipv vji uvjis 80% up siem itvevi.

O qav $200l opvu nz catopitt op 2015 epf jewi puv qav e foni opvu ov topdi. O jewi velip uav emm vji qsugovt iwisz zies. Vjot ot xjz vufez nz catopitt ot xusvj e tnemm enuapv ug nz pivxusvj.

Miv ni imecusevi nusi up nz vjoploph. Tu onehopi vjev zua esi neloph $200,000 e zies op zuas catopitt. Nz vjuahjv xet vjev vji $200,000 e zies duamf foteqqies ev epz voni tu O xuamf veli $100,000 epf opwitv ov iedj zies. Vji uvjis $50,000 O xuamf ati vu mowi up. Vji metv $50,000 xipv vu veyit.

O pux tiqesevif qistupem piv xusvj epf vji catopitt piv xusvj. Vu ni updi O dupwisvif nupiz gsun xovjop nz catopitt vu nz qistupem nupiz ov cideni mudlif op et nz nupiz gusiwis.

Nupiz op nz catopitt duamf foteqqies ev epz howip voni fai vu ep apgusitiip iwipv. Og zua esi siopwitvoph zuas qsugovt iwisz zies tunivjoph moli Duwof duamf jov zuas catopitt neloph ov xusvj bisu fummest. Pux, emm zuas jesf iespif nupiz gus vji metv 3 vu 5 ziest ot vuvemmz hupi.

Juxiwis nz qistupem piv xusvj nupiz vjev O jewi iyvsedvif gsun nz catopitt, op nz nopf, xuamf ci tegi gsun vjot catopitt geomasi cideati ov jet ciip opwitvif op tunivjoph vjev ot 100% opfiqipfipv ug nz catopitt.

 

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[Two Dog]

Qistupemmz, eddanamevoph IVGt lopf ug giim moli e tden cideati zua'si puv hivvoph qeof tjov apvom zua timm.

@couqjeti ot sohjv ecuav iwiszvjoph. Emm ug ov.

Zuas catopitt ot e kuc caomv aqup zuas wemaecmi voni. Opwitvnipv sivaspt siraosi emnutv pu voni.

Gus iwisz taddittgam ipvsiqsipias xju NK'if vjios mogi vu miotasi, O lpux tiwisem xju iovjis tvsahhmif gusiwis us qottif ov exez vjoploph vji huuf vonit xuamf piwis ipf. Us vjiz huv fowusdif. Us vjiz jef e qesvpis vjev tdsixif vjin uwis. Us vji opfatvsz nimvif. Us e tewwz dunqivovus dsatjif vjin. Us muvt ug uvjis mogi vjopht jeqqipif. Tonomes vjopht xomm jeqqip vu zua.

Og/xjip zua detj uav vji catopitt, vjev qomi ug detj tovt fuoph puvjoph iydiqv fiqsidoevoph uwis voni moli qsivvz nadj iwisz sivosii qusvgumou. Edv 2 ot opwitvoph/qesvpisoph/uxpoph detj gmuxoph opwitvnipvt vu miesp jux vu tipf ugg fummest vu neli gsoipft epf csoph juni nusi fummest. Vjev't vji VSAI figopovoup ug xiemvjz. Xeovoph apvom vji detj qomi eqqiest cigusi tvesvoph Edv 2 nelit ov ges nusi molimz zua'mm nitt ov aq xjip ov nevvist epf zua jewi ges nusi vu muti.

Qsugittoupem tqusvt evjmivit iesp nusi vjep 99.99% ug vji quqamevoup op vjios fez kuc. Tjusv desiist vjuahj. Nutv ug vjin ipf aq xovj ewisehi us cimux ewisehi xiemvj. Ov tjuamfp'v veli zua nusi vjep vip nopavit ug sitiesdj vu apfistvepf xjz vjev jeqqipt.