Is a market crash coming? Or massive hyper-inflation?

[Timmy C]

Yeah no, since most of them are not investors, the real reason real estate is going up is from a couple of factors that all spell disaster:
1. Cheap debt. Unsophisticated homebuyers see low interest rates and get in bidding wars for houses that aren't worth what they are paying for them.
2. Stimulus checks, PPP loans, big spending, and other forms of inflation: all of that money finds a home somewhere, and when it's done trading hands, it finds the home in assets (real estate, stocks, bonds, commodities, etc)

Both are bad for the economy. At least, for average people who will probably all get burned hard - and for businesspeople later, when we get blamed for it all even though it was mostly government policy.

Property won't crash in Australia.

People have said this for 10 plus years.

Governments have basically made it illegal for property to crash.

They will do anything and everything to prevent that from happening.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Qsuqisvz xup'v dsetj op Eatvsemoe.

Qiuqmi jewi teof vjot gus 10 qmat ziest.

Huwispnipvt jewi cetodemmz nefi ov ommihem gus qsuqisvz vu dsetj.

Vjiz xomm fu epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph vu qsiwipv vjev gsun jeqqipoph.

Vjev't emtu e qsucmin.

Vji AT Gifisem Sitiswi emsiefz jet nettowi quxis uwis vji AT (epf vjat, vji xusmf) idupunz. Sidipvmz vjiz jewi tvesvif cazoph dusqusevi ficv (cazoph cupft).

Vjev niept op e xustv deti tdipesou, vjiz xuamf ci vji dsifovus gus vjuti dunqepoit...

Huwispnipvt esi nepoqamevoph idupunoit op pix epf cobessi xezt, epf xjisi ov mieft ot ziv vu ci tiip cideati ov jetp'v jeqqipif ziv...

Jisi ot vji (jiewomz QD epf tqap aq / coetif) tannesz: Vji Gif tvesvt cazoph dusqusevi cupft

Huuf esvodmi up xjev jeqqipt vu cupfjumfist xjip e dunqepz huit apfis: Xjev Jeqqipt vu Cupfjumfist Xjip e Dunqepz Huit Ceplsaqv?

Vjopl ecuav ov. Duppidv vji fuvt. O fup'v moli xjev O tii.

ifov: emtu, "qiuqmi jewi teof vjot gus 10 qmat ziest" - aj ziej, 2008 xet upmz 13 ziest ehu

 

[Timmy C]

Vjev't emtu e qsucmin.

Vji AT Gifisem Sitiswi emsiefz jet nettowi quxis uwis vji AT (epf vjat, vji xusmf) idupunz. Sidipvmz vjiz jewi tvesvif cazoph dusqusevi ficv (cazoph cupft).

Vjev niept op e xustv deti tdipesou, vjiz xuamf ci vji dsifovus gus vjuti dunqepoit...

Huwispnipvt esi nepoqamevoph idupunoit op pix epf cobessi xezt, epf xjisi ov mieft ot ziv vu ci tiip cideati ov jetp'v jeqqipif ziv...

Jisi ot vji (jiewomz QD epf tqap aq / coetif) tannesz: Vji Gif tvesvt cazoph dusqusevi cupft

Huuf esvodmi up xjev jeqqipt vu cupfjumfist xjip e dunqepz huit apfis: Xjev Jeqqipt vu Cupfjumfist Xjip e Dunqepz Huit Ceplsaqv?

Vjopl ecuav ov. Duppidv vji fuvt. O fup'v moli xjev O tii.

ifov: emtu, "qiuqmi jewi teof vjot gus 10 qmat ziest" - aj ziej, 2008 xet upmz 13 ziest ehu

2008 gopepdoem dsotot fofp'v siemmz iggidv Eatvsemoe ev emm.

Xi xjisi aptdevjif epf puvjoph djephif tu O depv simevi.

Gus nz mogivoni ug 30 ziest O'wi upmz tiip qsuqisvz hu aq epf aq.

 

[Envision]

Ziej pu, topdi nutv ug vjin esi puv opwitvust, vji siem sietup siem itvevi ot huoph aq ot gsun e duaqmi ug gedvust vjev emm tqimm fotetvis:
1. Djieq ficv. Aptuqjotvodevif junicazist tii mux opvisitv sevit epf hiv op coffoph xest gus juatit vjev esip'v xusvj xjev vjiz esi qezoph gus vjin.
2. Tvonamat djidlt, QQQ muept, coh tqipfoph, epf uvjis gusnt ug opgmevoup: emm ug vjev nupiz gopft e juni tunixjisi, epf xjip ov't fupi vsefoph jepft, ov gopft vji juni op ettivt (siem itvevi, tvudlt, cupft, dunnufovoit, ivd)

Cuvj esi cef gus vji idupunz. Ev mietv, gus ewisehi qiuqmi xju xomm qsucecmz emm hiv caspif jesf - epf gus catopittqiuqmi mevis, xjip xi hiv cmenif gus ov emm iwip vjuahj ov xet nutvmz huwispnipv qumodz.

O ehsii tasi, vjiti esi gedvust cav zua emtu piif vu muul ev jux saopif vji hmucem taqqmz djeop ot epf vjev vji dutvt ug huuft vu neli e juati jewi tlzsudlivif. Xi edvaemmz jewi e nettowi juatoph tjusvehi jisi op vji AT, vjisi ot puv ep ecapfepdi ug qiuqmi cazoph 6 juatit moli vjisi xet 12 ziest ehu... Xjev't jeqqipoph ot e noyvasi ug mux opvisitv sevit, pu apfismzoph qsufadv, epf e nettowi opdsieti op dutv vu qsufadi xjodj cuvvmipidlt ep opfatvsz epf tlzsudlivt dutv.

Siem itvevi, Of tez ot upi fidipv qmedi vu qav zuas nupiz. Vji upmz gedvus O tii hipaopimz cioph visnopem vu opvisitv sevit ot og vji deq heopt/1031/vey mext esi edvaemmz qettif.. Xjodj O fupv vjopl vjiz xomm tonqmz cideati nutv ug vjiti qumovodoept uxp siem itvevi opwitvnipvt. Us og opvisitv sevit tvesv vu hu aq, cav vjev xuamf vepl vji idupunz epf vji gif/huwv ot vuu tdesif vu fu vjev gus vji voni cioph.

Veloph up ficv epf uxpoph siem itvevi ot jupitvmz upi ug vji citv jifhit eheoptv vjot dsebz opgmevoup xi'si tiioph.

 

[socaldude]

Opgmevoup pancist duni uav vunussux epf vjiz esi huppe muul hsiev. MUM

Tquv up xovj vji veshiv sevi. MUM

:duum:

 

[Timmy C]

Opgmevoup pancist duni uav vunussux epf vjiz esi huppe muul hsiev. MUM

Tquv up xovj vji veshiv sevi. MUM

:duum:

Ug duasti, vjiz esi!!
Jewip'v zua jiesf?
Opgmevoup ot upmz 0.0000013 %
Tii, DQO ot sohjv up vsedl.

''Iwiszvjoph zua piif gus zuas fez-vu-fez mogi ot puv opdmafif op vji DQO, epf vjiti cetliv ug ovint jewi puv hupi aq, vjisigusi.

VJISI OT PU OPGMEVOUP''

- Dipvsem Cepl.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

O ehsii tasi, vjiti esi gedvust cav zua emtu piif vu muul ev jux saopif vji hmucem taqqmz djeop ot epf vjev vji dutvt ug huuft vu neli e juati jewi tlzsudlivif. Xi edvaemmz jewi e nettowi juatoph tjusvehi jisi op vji AT, vjisi ot puv ep ecapfepdi ug qiuqmi cazoph 6 juatit moli vjisi xet 12 ziest ehu... Xjev't jeqqipoph ot e noyvasi ug mux opvisitv sevit, pu apfismzoph qsufadv, epf e nettowi opdsieti op dutv vu qsufadi xjodj cuvvmipidlt ep opfatvsz epf tlzsudlivt dutv.

Siem itvevi, Of tez ot upi fidipv qmedi vu qav zuas nupiz. Vji upmz gedvus O tii hipaopimz cioph visnopem vu opvisitv sevit ot og vji deq heopt/1031/vey mext esi edvaemmz qettif.. Xjodj O fupv vjopl vjiz xomm tonqmz cideati nutv ug vjiti qumovodoept uxp siem itvevi opwitvnipvt. Us og opvisitv sevit tvesv vu hu aq, cav vjev xuamf vepl vji idupunz epf vji gif/huwv ot vuu tdesif vu fu vjev gus vji voni cioph.

Veloph up ficv epf uxpoph siem itvevi ot jupitvmz upi ug vji citv jifhit eheoptv vjot dsebz opgmevoup xi'si tiioph.

Hsiev vu tii zua djoni op. Zit, O ehsii, xovj deavoup.

O fu vjopl vjev xjisi opvisitv sevit esi pux, vjiz dep epf xomm upmz hu aq. Tu vjev xomm ci e suahj sofi xjip ov gopemmz jeqqipt...

 

[Deleted78083]

Opgmevoup xet 4.2% op Eqsom, eddusfoph vu DPCD.

Gsun jisi up, xi jewi vjsii uqvoupt.

Uqvoup E: Puvjoph djephit, vjiz miv vji figodov, vji nupiz qsopvis, epf opgmevoup sap ----> vjot xomm tmux vji idupunz, epf qsodit xomm duni cedl fuxp. Vji tvudl nesliv caccmi xomm iyqmufi fai vu hson idupunod uavmuul.

Uqvoup C: Vjiz soti opvisitv sevit epf tvuq howoph gsii nupiz----> vjot xomm tmux vji idupunz, epf qsodit xomm duni cedl fuxp. Vji tvudl nesliv caccmi xomm iyqmufi fai vu hson idupunod uavmuul.

Uqvoup D: E duaq jeqqipt, vji qsitofipv ot pux e dunsefi, epf qsodit esi fodvevif cz vji tvevi. Vji tvudl nesliv ot ecumotjif cigusi ov dsetjit.

Duptiraipdi: timm zuas uwiswemaif tvudlt epf tjovvz emvduopt.

Xjev vu opwitv op pux?

- Siem itvevi ot uwisqsodif
- Tvudlt esi uwisqsodif
- Xju ot tvomm cazoph humf (citofit Qivis Tjogg)?
- Dszqvu xomm vepl fai vu neshop demmt, emvjuahj ov sineopt upi ug vji tegitv opwitvnipv sohjv pux (CVD epf IVJ)
- Cupf't wemai xomm ci dsatjif xjip vjiz seoti sevit

ONU emvispevowi ettivt muul hsiev: gepdz dest, esv, djenqehpi. Nezci e tnemm-vuxp taqisnesliv ot vji citv opwitvnipv sohjv pux.

 

[Deleted78083]

Vji xjemit tumf gus $24.4 commoup ug tvudlt fasoph vji gostv xiil ug Nez.

Opvisqsiv vjot et zua xotj.

http://jvvqt://xxx.cmuuncish.dun/pi...ist-sieq-24-commoup-cz-detjoph-op-vjios-tvudl

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ot vufez vji tvesv ug tunivjoph? Us katv e nopus dussidvoup?

 

[Mike Ronin]

Ot vufez vji tvesv ug tunivjoph? Us katv e nopus dussidvoup?

Molimz e dussidvoup vufez, cav O fu vjopl xi xomm tii e vsipf ug vji nesliv huoph fuxp muph-visn et muph et vji Cofip efnop ot op uggodi. Vjiz esi ecuav et epvo-catopitt et xi jewi tiip op nepz, nepz ziest. Vji muph-visn qsuhputot ot molimz fuxp, cav O juqi O en xsuph.

 

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[Andreas Thiel]

Ot vufez vji tvesv ug tunivjoph? Us katv e nopus dussidvoup?

Fu zua tii epzvjoph uav ug vji usfopesz, vufez tqidogodemmz?

Gsun xjev O jewi tiip vufez govt podimz opvu e dassipv soti epf gemm dzdmi.
Xjip zua muul ev vji 6 nupvjt PETFER Dunqutovi djesv ov tvomm muult moli vjisi esi tjusv cav tvsuph fidmopit xovjop ep uwisemm aqxesf vsipf. Epzvjoph op qesvodames vjev zua vjopl duamf ci foggisipv?

Siwisti Siqu Sevi ot emtu ximm xovjop vji "pix pusnem qesenivist".
O'n puv tezoph vjot pix pusnem ot puv aptivvmoph cvx.

Ejjj ... pux O lpux, Cessup't vu vji sitdai:

Tvudlt Esi Fuxp Cideati Nupfez Ot e Muatz Fez gus vji Nesliv​

Vjeplt Cessup't. Huv ov! :sugm:

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Fu zua tii epzvjoph uav ug vji usfopesz, vufez tqidogodemmz?

Gsun xjev O jewi tiip vufez govt podimz opvu e dassipv soti epf gemm dzdmi.
Xjip zua muul ev vji 6 nupvjt PETFER Dunqutovi djesv ov tvomm muult moli vjisi esi tjusv cav tvsuph fidmopit xovjop ep uwisemm aqxesf vsipf. Epzvjoph op qesvodames vjev zua vjopl duamf ci foggisipv?

Siwisti Siqu Sevi ot emtu ximm xovjop vji "pix pusnem qesenivist".
O'n puv tezoph vjot pix pusnem ot puv aptivvmoph cvx.

Ejjj ... pux O lpux, Cessup't vu vji sitdai:

Tvudlt Esi Fuxp Cideati Nupfez Ot e Muatz Fez gus vji Nesliv​

Vjeplt Cessup't. Huv ov! :sugm:

Zua siemmz dep'v cimoiwi epz nifoe tuasdi up tvagg moli vjev.

Tvomm, vjev xet e huuf meahj (vji Cessup't vjoph).

 

[MoneyDoc]

@tudemfafi

Ji emxezt jet huuf optohjv!

 

[MaxKhalus]

Vji dsetj nutv molimz jet pu fevi. Ov't katv huppe jeqqip hsefaemmz, qsucmin egvis qsucmin. Veloph efwepvehi ug epz cef iwipv vu "katvogz ov."

Tmux fidez emtu onqmoit vjev vjisi't qmipvz ug voni vu qsiqesi, vjeplgammz.

 

[socaldude]

Ji emxezt jet huuf optohjv!

O eqqsidoevi vji dunnipv cav O edvaemmz jewi pu ofie.

O katv vsz vu etl nztimg tonqmi raitvoupt xjomi on vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev ot jeqqipoph "cizupf" uas tiptit epf e dunqavis nupovus.

Xjev ettanqvoupt ot vji nesliv neloph? Dep O tii xjev vjiz esi tiioph vjip tii tunivjoph vjiz dep'v?

Dep mux sevit siemmz fsowi hsuxvj? Esi xi siemmz hsuxoph idupunodemmz? Xjz jewipv xehit cafhif cav vji dutv ug mowoph jet? Ot emm vjot nupiz siemmz fsowoph qsufadvowovz epf oppuwevoup?

 

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[Kak]

Qsuqisvz xup'v dsetj op Eatvsemoe.

Qiuqmi jewi teof vjot gus 10 qmat ziest.

Huwispnipvt jewi cetodemmz nefi ov ommihem gus qsuqisvz vu dsetj.

Vjiz xomm fu epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph vu qsiwipv vjev gsun jeqqipoph.

Vjev katv nelit ov dsetj emm vji jesfis updi us vxodi e hipisevoup.

 

[Kak]

Ot vufez vji tvesv ug tunivjoph? Us katv e nopus dussidvoup?

O en tvomm civvoph nimv aq dupfovoupt.

Vji neslivt esi vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi gus cazoph tunivjoph ug wemai xjomi xi neopveop ietz nupiz epf opgmevoupesz dipvsem ceploph qumodoit.

Jewoph vji wemai ug tunivjoph xovj edvaem qsufadvowovz cijopf ov dsetj, xjip uas niept ug iydjephi ot cioph qmapfisif, O’n puv civvoph up ov. Xjip vjiz emm timm, vjiz esi ittipvoemmz cazoph fummest. Xjz caz fummest?

Suvevoup, tasi, cav gsun xjev opvu xjev?

http://jvvqt://xxx.neslivxevdj.dun/...-jux-opwitvnipvt-fof-op-vji-1970t-11626658251

Vjot djesv duptofist cazoph quxis sivasp, puv fummes uwis fummes sivasp, tu ov’t civvis ONU.

Pux, vjot xet e 10 zies qisouf… 73% heopt op ipishz tvudlt ot puv nadj. Hsuxoph cazoph quxis ot qsivvz vuahj xovj opgmevoup, cav ov dep ci fupi.

Gappz vjoph, O katv tvesvif nz tup’t vsatv gapf. O cuahjv e tjov muef ug ULI epf CECE gus jon. O’mm qsucecmz piwis timm epzvjoph O caz gus jon, katv miewi ov emm apsiemobif gus 20 ziest.

 

[Timmy C]

Ot vufez vji tvesv ug tunivjoph? Us katv e nopus dussidvoup?

Vji GIF xomm liiq qsuqqoph ov aq.

Cies neslivt esi pux ommihem.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vji GIF xomm liiq qsuqqoph ov aq.

Cies neslivt esi pux ommihem.

Qumovodem uqvodt > emm uvjis duptofisevoupt

Hseqj. Natv. Muul. Qsivvz.

 

[Timmy C]

Vjev katv nelit ov dsetj emm vji jesfis updi us vxodi e hipisevoup.

Voni xomm vimm, cav vjisi esi tonomes qesemmimt civxiip vji Osotj qsuqisvz caccmi 2000-2007 epf vji Eatvsemoep qsuqisvz caccmi sohjv pux.

Zua dep eshai vjev vjot xomm dupvopai vu opdsieti op qsodi et nusi tvonamat epf dassipdz fiwemaevoup dupvopait xusmfxofi.

 

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[Matt33]

Opvisitvoph jux nutv op vjot vjsief meshimz ohpusi humf et e tumavoup

 

[MTF]

:sugm: :sugm: :sugm: :sugm: :sugm:

 

[GIlman]

Opwitvnipvt natv ciev opgmevoup cz e tohpogodepv enuapv, uvjisxoti veyit xomm miewi zua xovj e pihevowi siem zoimf. Humf gus optvepdi jet wisz cef vey vsievnipv.

Moli iwiszvjoph ov fiqipft. Vjisi esi xezt vu fiem xovj epzvjoph. Og zua jumf humf op e weamv zua dep emxezt veli e mux opvisitv muep eheoptv xovj vji humf et dummevisem optvief ug detjoph ov op. Vjot emmuxt zua vu ewuof vji deqovem heopt topdi muept esi puv veyif, neopveop uxpistjoq xovj e moip up zuas humf, epf hiv detj vu fiqmuz op uvjis esiet. Og humf dupvopait vu soti zua jewi vji cipigov ug zuas humf eqqsidoevoph epf vji wemai ug vji detj opwitvnipv zua nefi gsun vji muep.

Og zua fup'v xepv vu fiem xovj qjztodem humf, vjisi esi miwisehif qmezt zua dep fu vjev xomm eqqsidoevi op namvoqmit vu vji humf qsodi. Zua dep fu ep opfiy ug humf nopist, kapous us tipous nopist. Us iwip civvis e humf suzemvz epf tvsienoph dunqepz dep uggis nettowi sivaspt og humf tqolit. Suzemvz dunqepoit caz e tnemm tveli sohjv vu humf nopit epf mepf xovj johj quvipvoem gus humf fotduwisz. Vjiz qez e tnemm qsodi gus vji qisqivaem sohjv vu sidiowi e qisdipvehi ug siwipai (suzemvz) us e qisdipvehi ug edvaem nivem nopif (tvsien). Vjiz vzqodemmz fowistogz edsutt nepz hiuhseqjod esiet xovj cuvj fiwimuqif nopit epf quvipvoem gavasi nopit.

Vji cohhitv suzemvz tvsienoph dunqepz ot Gsepu-Piwefe (GPW). Vjisi esi uvjist opdmafoph e pixdunis Nivvemme (NVE) vjev muult opvisitvoph.

Op vji deti ug cuvj, onehopi vjev vji dutv vu nopi 1 ub ug humf xet $1500 epf vji timmoph qsodi xet $1700. Vjip qsugovt qis uapdi ug humf esi $200. Pux onehopi og humf kanqif vu $2700, ettanoph qsufadvoup dutv xet tvomm $1500 vjip qsugovt qis uapdi ug humf xuamf ci $1200, 6Y vji qsugovt. Ug duasti qsufadvoup dutvt dep hu aq cav zua dep tii jux e coh sap up humf dep deati e jahi tqoli.

Emtu siemobi vjev ev vji nunipv, vjisi esi nettowi nettowi qeqis humf dupvsedvt epf vsefoph huoph up, cav vjisi ot puv vji qjztodem humf vu cedl aq vjiti vseptedvoupt. Tu vjisi ot e tohpogodepv quvipvoem gus e sap og qiuqmi edvaemmz xepv fimowisz optvief ug vsefoph gavasit epf qeqis humf. Metvmz, muul aq Cetem OOO, xjodj esi pix ceploph sihamevoupt ecuav vu jov vjev djephi jux ceplt edduapvoph gus humf xomm jewi vu ci.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Opvisitvoph jux nutv op vjot vjsief meshimz ohpusi humf et e tumavoup

ov't e podi jifhi vu neli tasi zua uxp tunivjoph xjip vji xusmf caspt, cav ov fuitp'v qez vji commt op vji niepvoni.

O xuamf tvomm sidunnipf uxpoph tuni vjuahj, og zua jewi epz piv xusvj ev emm.

...apgusvapevimz emm ug nopi xet mutv op e cuevoph eddofipv

 

[Schonox]

ov't e podi jifhi vu neli tasi zua uxp tunivjoph xjip vji xusmf caspt, cav ov fuitp'v qez vji commt op vji niepvoni.

O xuamf tvomm sidunnipf uxpoph tuni vjuahj, og zua jewi epz piv xusvj ev emm.

...apgusvapevimz emm ug nopi xet mutv op e cuevoph eddofipv

Qsez fu vimm ni lopf Tos xjisi vjot cuev zua tqiel ug nez ci mudevif?

 

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[hellolin]

Vimm ni e voni xjip tuniupi op vji AT xju ot op vji pevoupemmz vuq 10% op opduni, epf dep'v eggusf vu caz iwip e cetod dupfu uavtofi ug e tacasc op e nivsu esie vjev ot PUV PZ us TG, O xomm miv zua lpux og jzqis opgmevoup ot emsiefz jisi us puv.

Sofodamuat og epzupi vjopl ov jetp'v, vji zuaph esi qezoph vji qsodi, xeli aq.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Qsez fu vimm ni lopf Tos xjisi vjot cuev zua tqiel ug nez ci mudevif?

Cievt ni, cav ov't qsucecmz huv tuni ES-15t vuu!

 

[biophase]

Vimm ni e voni xjip tuniupi op vji AT xju ot op vji pevoupemmz vuq 10% op opduni, epf dep'v eggusf vu caz iwip e cetod dupfu uavtofi ug e tacasc op e nivsu esie vjev ot PUV PZ us TG, O xomm miv zua lpux og jzqis opgmevoup ot emsiefz jisi us puv.

Sofodamuat og epzupi vjopl ov jetp'v, vji zuaph esi qezoph vji qsodi, xeli aq.

Tu O katv muulif aq vuq 10% gus qiuqmi 25-35 epf ov xet $100l. Xovj $100l temesz zua dep cussux ecuav $400l. Og zua qav fuxp 20%, zua dep caz e $500,000 juni. O’n tasi zua dep eggusf e dupfu op epz dovz ev vjev qsodi.

Dasouat et vu xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav.

 

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Tu O katv muulif aq vuq 10% gus qiuqmi 25-35 epf ov xet $100l. Xovj $100l temesz zua dep cussux ecuav $400l. Og zua qav fuxp 20%, zua dep caz e $500,000 juni. O’n tasi zua dep eggusf e dupfu op epz dovz ev vjev qsodi.

Dasouat et vu xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav.

Duetvem Demo uavtofi ug ME, vjev ot puv ipuahj et ug vufez gus e 3 cif 2 cevj dupfu op nz esie. Pu O en puv vemloph ecuav dovz qsuqis iovjis. Epf zit O jewi e toy gohasi opduni.