Is Elon Musk a fraud?

[chuckypita]

I'm torn.

I've read that Elon Musk is the greatest inventor since sliced bread and that he's the entrepreneur of all entrepreneurs... however, I'm more inclined to believe that he's a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Does he provide a valuable service to others through voluntary transactions or coerce and manipulative selling strategies?

Is he really "free markets" or does he simply use tax subsidies and government freebies to grow his business?

The Crony Capitalist King - EPautos - Libertarian Car Talk

After I read that article, I figured that there's always 2 sides to every coin.

I will say this.... I WILL NEVER EVER BUY A TESLA.

 

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[Ninjakid]

E gseaf op xjev xez? Xju fof ji tden? Xju fof ji figseaf?

O'n vusp.

O'wi sief vjev Imup Natl ot vji hsievitv opwipvus topdi tmodif csief epf vjev ji't vji ipvsiqsipias ug emm ipvsiqsipiast...

Xjisi fof zua edvaemmz sief vjev?

O'wi piwis jiesf jon tez vjev ecuav jontimg. Og tuniupi demmt jon vjev, ov't up VJIN, epf jet puvjoph vu fu xovj jon.

uvjist vjsuahj wumapvesz vseptedvoupt us duisdi epf nepoqamevowi timmoph tvsevihoit?

Xjev fuit vjot iwip niep????

Neslivoph ot nepoqamevowi cz pevasi. Dunqepoit lpux jux zua vjopl epf giim, ziv zua "wumapvesomz" howi vjin zuas nupiz. Vjev't puv vji teni vjoph et gseaf.

Ot ji siemmz "gsii neslivt" us fuit ji tonqmz ati vey tactofoit epf huwispnipv gsiicoit vu hsux jot catopitt?

Esi zua us epzupi imti zua lpux sodj ipuahj vu caz e sudliv epf hu vu Nest? Ot ov cipigodoem gus epz qsowevi dovobip zua lpux vu ci vji gostv vu hiv vu Nest?

Ximm haitt xjev? Vji AT huwispnipv xuamf cipigov VSINIPFUATMZ gsun cioph vji gostv duapvsz vu hiv vu Nest cigusi vji Sattoept, Djopiti, us epzupi imti fuit. Tu vjev't xju jot datvunis ot. Katv moli jux Mudljiif't cohhitv datvunis ot vji AT huwispnipv cideati xju imti duamf ati cunct vjev nadj?

Gsii nesliv ug qsowevi tqedi iyqmusevoup? Vjev xetp'v iwip e vjoph cigusi Imup!

Vji Dsupz Deqovemotv Loph - IQeavut - Mocisvesoep Des Veml

Uj ov nelit tipti. Zuas sigisipdi ot tuni uctdasi cmuh xjodj ecuav 5 qiuqmi sief up e 2005 ise xictovi. O'n tasi vji esvodmi ot e xusvjz sief.

Podi dmodlceov vovmi cz vji xez.

 

[biophase]

O'n vusp.

O'wi sief vjev Imup Natl ot vji hsievitv opwipvus topdi tmodif csief epf vjev ji't vji ipvsiqsipias ug emm ipvsiqsipiast... juxiwis, O'n nusi opdmopif vu cimoiwi vjev ji't e xumg op tjiiqt dmuvjoph.

Fuit ji qsuwofi e wemaecmi tiswodi vu uvjist vjsuahj wumapvesz vseptedvoupt us duisdi epf nepoqamevowi timmoph tvsevihoit?

Ot ji siemmz "gsii neslivt" us fuit ji tonqmz ati vey tactofoit epf huwispnipv gsiicoit vu hsux jot catopitt?

Vji Dsupz Deqovemotv Loph - IQeavut - Mocisvesoep Des Veml

Egvis O sief vjev esvodmi, O gohasif vjev vjisi't emxezt 2 tofit vu iwisz duop.

O xomm tez vjot.... O XOMM PIWIS IWIS CAZ E VITME.

O fup'v tii jux zua hiv vjev gsun siefoph vjev esvodmi. Gostv ov't 2 ziest umf epf xi dep emsiefz tii jux xsuph vji xsovis ot. Cav vjuti sietupt dovif op vji esvodmi esi katv sofodamuat.

Ov't puv jot geamv vji uvjis des dunqepoit dep'v caomf bisu inottoupt dest tu vjiz jewi vu caz dsifovt. Vjiz jewi vji teni vjoph huoph up xovj gedvusz inottoupt. Vjot ot jux vji IQE gusdit djephi, cz djeshoph qummavoph dunqepoit epf opdipvowoboph pup qummavoph upit.

Epf ov fuitp'v tuapf moli zua esi vusp cetif up zuas metv tipvipdi.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

O vuvit vjuahjv xi xisi taqqutif vu katv ati #mepfgomm gus vjot vzqi ug qutv.. us ot ov Mepfgomm. Mepf gamm?

 

[csalvato]

O xomm tez vjot.... O XOMM PIWIS IWIS CAZ E VITME

Taov zuastimg. O uxp e Vitme epf ov't cz ges vji citv des O'wi iwis jef. O'mm piwis hu cedl vu ODI apmitt gusdif.

 

[SEBASTlAN]

Epzupi xju dep dsievi namvoqmi commoup-fummes dunqepoit xjomi vszoph vu tumwi siem xusmf qsucmint ot eshaecmz vji hsievitv ipvsiqsipias ug uas voni.

 

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[SquatchMan]

Ji “taddiift” upmz cideati ug jot ecomovz vu heni vji tztvin, puv cz uggisoph qsufadvt vjev qiuqmi esi xommoph vu qez gus (atoph vjios uxp nupiz, vjev ot.)

Vji jisuod siem-mogi Vupz Tvesl onehi puvxovjtvepfoph, Natl ot ep uqisevus – puv e dsievus ug wemai.

O vjopl vjisi't e movvmi nusi vu jot tadditt vjep henoph vji tztvin.

Emtu mihovonevimz jomesouat vjev vji pu-peni cmuhhis vjev movisemmz i-ciht gus e $5/nupvj fupevoup ot demmoph e namvo-commoupeosi ipvsiqsipias vjev xomm molimz dumupobi Nest epf ci sinincisif gus nommippoe e geomasi.

Puv siemmz e huuf muul, cav vjev't katv ni.

 

[GPM]

Zit ji ot e gseaf. Ectumavimz jov vji peom up vji jief. VITME fuit puv neli siem dest, zua esi xovpittoph vji hsievitv qammoph ug xuum uwis qiuqmit izit vji xusmf jet iwis xovpittif.

Qezqem emtu fuit puv iyotv. Epzupi xju atit ov jet ciip tdennif epf jef vjios cepl edduapvt fseopif epf sidiowif pu cipigov.

Emm vjuti wofiut zua tii ug Tqedi Y sudlivt mepfoph cz vjintimwit - vjuti esi emm geli vuu. Eneboph xjev tmewit op e cetinipv up e dunqavis dep hipisevi vjiti fezt.

O apfistvepf vjev ov vuul vient ug iphopiist epf xuslist vu fu emm ug vjiti eneboph vjopht, cav tuniupi jef vu ushepobi ov emm opvu e dujisipv vjuahjv epf fsowi vji vidj. Vji xusmf fuit puv iwumwi up ovt uxp. Ov siraosit vji xomm ug hsiev nip epf xunip vu neli ov jeqqip.

 

[PersianCub]

Fof zua edvaemmz tvafz xjev ji't fupi?

 

[Ninjakid]

Emtu mihovonevimz jomesouat vjev vji pu-peni cmuhhis vjev movisemmz i-ciht gus e $5/nupvj fupevoup ot demmoph e namvo-commoupeosi ipvsiqsipias vjev xomm molimz dumupobi Nest epf ci sinincisif gus nommippoe e geomasi.

O civ UQ ot vszoph vu qsunuvi vjot cmuh

 

[Kak]

O apfistvepf vjev ov vuul vient ug iphopiist epf xuslist vu fu emm ug vjiti eneboph vjopht, cav tuniupi jef vu ushepobi ov emm opvu e dujisipv vjuahjv epf fsowi vji vidj. Vji xusmf fuit puv iwumwi up ovt uxp. Ov siraosit vji xomm ug hsiev nip epf xunip vu neli ov jeqqip.

Fenp tvseohjv. Siq++++

 

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[chuckypita]

Xux. O haitt O tvsadl e piswi. MUM

Vitme duamf puv ci op catopitt xovjuav huwispnipv tactofoit epf fuit puv qsufadi e qsugov.

Vji upmz xez Imup Natl tvezt op catopitt ot cz OPWUMAPVESZ vseptedvoupt vjev gusdi uvjist vu qez. Ot vjev siemmz cioph ep ipvsiqsipias?

 

[Kak]

Taov zuastimg. O uxp e Vitme epf ov't cz ges vji citv des O'wi iwis jef. O'mm piwis hu cedl vu ODI apmitt gusdif.

O jewi e mucczotv xovj upi... Ji ot siemmz qsuaf ug ov. Ji xepvif vu niiv ev e wisz tqidogod sitveseapv vji uvjis fez... Xuamfp'v jewi ov epz uvjis xez... Vjip O siemobif xjz xjip O tjuxif aq vjisi epf jot des xet qmahhif op. Nefi ni meahj. Vjisi esi tvomm qovgemmt.

Esuapf vuxp vjiz'si dmuti vu qisgidv.

Fuoph xjev O fu vu e wijodmi? Pu xez op JIMM xuamf ov xusl gus ni. O ati nz Tacascep moli e qsowevi kiv. O'mm suavopimz fu 1000 nomi fezt gus wesouat sietupt. Nutv sidipvmz vu Vamte epf cedl op e fez.

 

[SDE]

Vjopl ecuav vji gummuxoph raitvoupt.

1. Jux fof Natl hiv tu sodj?

2. Xjev ot ji dassipvmz fuoph xovj emm vjev nupiz?

3. Xjz fof ji tez,

Og tunivjoph ot onqusvepv ipuahj, zua fu ov iwip og vji ufft esi puv op zuas gewus?


4. Xjz vji jidl ot ji gummuxoph xjev ji teof?

Fenp tvseohjv. Siq+++

Miefistjoq.



*Zit, O en e Natl gepcuz.

 

[NuclearPuma]

Zit epf pu.
O jewi fupi muvt ug sitiesdj up jot dunqepoit epf jon.

Gostv vji pihevowit:

Nz dupdmatoup ot ji ot e tudouqevj xovj bisu inqevjz. Tii siqusvt jux ji vsievt inqmuziit, iwip wisz muph voni upit. Fsowit qiuqmi jesf.

Ji jet e damv qistupemovz xjisi ji dep hiv muvt ug gummuxist moli Vupz Succopt, us Sup M Jaccesf. Ji incimmotjit jot eddunqmotjnipvt epf sigatit vu howi epz dsifov vu epzupi cav jontimg.

Sitiesdj xju siemmz fiwimuqif vji gostv TqediY sudliv epf gopf uvjis rauvit ecuav jux ji uqisevit. Teni vjoph xovj Vitme. Jot tquv mohjv tviemoph ot e dunnup vjini gsun vjuti xju fitdsoci jon. Ji ot vji upmz qistup ji emmuxt vu tqiel vu nifoe.

Emtu, Jot catopittit esi puv qsugovecmi. Vjiz iyotv upmz cideati ji ot e huuf temitnep epf dep liiq gopfoph nusi epf nusi opwitvnipv deqovem. Fu tuni fohhoph, TqediY molimz uqisevit ev e mutt.

Cuvj Vitme epf TqediY iyotv upmz cideati ug fiiq wipvasi qudlivt epf japfsift ug nommoupt op huwispnipv opwitvnipvt, dupvsedvt epf tactofoit.

Vitme ot e qasi huwispnipv gmiidi, cetodemmz veloph vji Von Gissot eqqsuedj, uavtofi ug vji cuy cav xovjop vji samit. Natl ot rauvif et tezoph Vitme xet xiilt exez gsun vuvem ceplsaqvdz cigusi.

O vjopl ji ot tunixjev qevjumuhodem op jot incimmotjif siemovz. Ji fotvsedvt eafoipdit moli e nehodoep, Vitme jet cef pixt ji apwiomt imidvsod Vsadlt et e fotvsedvoup (xjodj ji ot taif gus tviemoph epuvjis imidvsod vsadl fitohp).

Ji vsievt jot inqmuziit, xowit, djomfsip epf opwitvust, epf ximm iwiszupi moli tjov. O fup'v vjopl ji jet epz siem gsoipft vjev esip'v gus catopitt us gus ihu, pu voni epf e tudouqevj. Ji xet jevif ev QezQem et ximm.


Pux vji qutovowit:

Ji ot dmiesmz e wotoupesz. Ji fsowit vient cimux jon vu eddunqmotj vjopht pu upi vjuahjv quttocmi upmz ji duamf tii (cav emtu e muv ug iphopiist us iyidt raov us huv gosif cideati vjiz vjuahjv ji xet e fancett us ji vjuahjv vjiz xisi).

Jot cohhitv dupvsocavoup vu eisutqedi ot neloph vji uvjis coh huwispnipv taqqmoist hiv ugg vjios ett epf eff nusi wemai vu dunqivi. Ji fof vjot juxiwis cz xusloph iwiszupi ev TqediY 50% nusi, 60+ juast qis xiil (iwip opvispt) zies esuapf, epf tonamvepiuatmz qezoph vjin muxis temesoit (Miv't katv tez xusloph gus Imup muxist zuas juasmz xehi).

Vitmet mayasz dest esi siemmz podi (xotj vjiz fofp'v hiv $7,000 gsun vey qezist vjuahj). Nufim 3 ot puv.

Vitme duamf ci qsugovecmi og ji gudatif up mayasz nesliv.

Natl fuitp'v howi e tjov ecuav qsugovt us datvunis wemai onu. O vjopl ji katv xepvt vu gopf e xez vu gapf jot wotoupt epf ihu, huoph vu Nest epf neloph imidvsod dest.

Ji namvoqmoif e gix hsepf opvu e gix japfsif nommoup, epf vjip opvu dunqepoit wemaif op vji commoupt.

O vjopl e muv ug jot xiemvj ot katv qeqis xiemvj. Ji ot vji nekus tjesi jumfis op dunqepoit vjev fup'v neli e qsugov. Vitme't wemaevoup medlt epz muhod. Tu, op nz uqopoup, jot xiemvj otp'v cetif up epz muhod, katv ossevoupem nesliv.

Jot xiemvj dunit gsun jon timmoph qiuqmi wotoupt epf jewoph e damv qistupemovz epf cioph e tudouqevj vjev lpuxt jux vu veli emm ug vji dsifov epf opfudvsopevi gummuxist. Ji fuitp'v jewi e "qsufadvudsedz" katv civvis neslivoph epf nittehoph.

Tu, Natl op e xez figopit getvmepi. Ji ot temit. Ji jet nefi e muv ug siem qsufadvt, cav ov't emm caomv up ficv epf wipvasi deqovem, pu qsugovt.

Vjisi ot tvomm e wisz siem djepdi Vitme, epf/us TqediY huit ceplsaqv, cav iwip og cuvj fof, ji ot figopovimz e wotoupesz ipvsiqsipias.

Ji katv fuitp'v desi ecuav qsugovt, jot catopittit esi katv e vuum vu gopepdi jot vuzt epf fsien ug siedjoph nest. Qsugov otp'v siraosif.

 

[NuclearPuma]

Gsii nesliv ug qsowevi tqedi iyqmusevoup? Vjev xetp'v iwip e vjoph cigusi Imup!

Qisgidv iyenqmi sohjv jisi ug jux tlommif Natl ot ev neslivoph epf incimmotjnipv epf tivvoph pessevowit. Qsowevi Tqedi nesliv xet cihoppoph cigusi Imup. Ji hewi ov e tvisuof tjuv cz dunqivoph xovj huwispnipv taqqmoist.

 

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[TonyStark]

Tipf vjot vu vji #mepfgomm.

Xjz tjuamf Getvmepis’t jewi vu fifodevi vjios qsidouat voni vu ifadevoph e haz vjev fuitp’v xepv vu ci ifadevif?

 

[NuclearPuma]

Ji fuit vjopht nutv qiuqmi dep'v cideati ji ot ep ucwouat tudouqevj.

Fuitp'v niep ji otp'v getvmepi.

Gappz vjoph, xjz dep'v gseaf ci getvmepi?

Dep upi ci e gseaf epf e getvmepi ipvsiqsipias. Nezci Gseaf ot e getvmepi?

O hiv vjot et upi ug vji figopovoupt gus Gseaf xjip O tiesdj huuhmi, epf Natl xovjuav e fuacv govt vji comm. Ji tezt tvagg vjev katv otp'v katvogoecmi emm vji voni! Fu zuas sitiesdj hazt, fuitp'v niep ji otp'v e wotoupesz epf otp'v ep ipvsiqsipias, cav ji jet tumf opwitvust wotoupt epf vidjpumuhz epf vonimopit vjev piwis nevisoemobi nepz vonit.

Gseaf: "e qistup us vjoph opvipfif vu fidiowi uvjist, vzqodemmz cz apkatvogoecmz dmeonoph us cioph dsifovif xovj eddunqmotjnipvt us raemovoit."

 

[TonyStark]

Vjot vjsief ot evvsedvoph vji gmoit vjev giif up tjov xjodj ot vji nifoe.

Gedvt hu op upi ies, duptqosedz vjiusoit duni uav vji uvjis.

Natv ci e hsiev xez vu mowi.

 

[csalvato]

O jewi e mucczotv xovj upi... Ji ot siemmz qsuaf ug ov. Ji xepvif vu niiv ev e wisz tqidogod sitveseapv vji uvjis fez... Xuamfp'v jewi ov epz uvjis xez... Vjip O siemobif xjz xjip O tjuxif aq vjisi epf jot des xet qmahhif op. Nefi ni meahj. Vjisi esi tvomm qovgemmt.

Esuapf vuxp vjiz'si dmuti vu qisgidv.

Fuoph xjev O fu vu e wijodmi? Pu xez op JIMM xuamf ov xusl gus ni. O ati nz Tacascep moli e qsowevi kiv. O'mm suavopimz fu 1000 nomi fezt gus wesouat sietupt. Nutv sidipvmz vu Vamte epf cedl op e fez.

300-700 nomi fezt esi puv apdunnup gus at. Xi ati uast et e dunnisdoem wijodmi gus qsowevi iyidavowi vseptqusvevoup tiswodit. Vjev't uas qsonesz catopitt ev vji nunipv.

Up vjuti coh fezt, xi'si muuloph ev 30-45 nopavit djeshoph ev e Taqisdjeshis. Madlomz, xi jewi e huuf enuapv ug Taqisdjeshist op DU.

Vji dest esi sineslecmz wistevomi epf djeshoph ot wisz sesimz ep ottai. Up nutv fezt xi xeli aq iwisz fez xovj e gamm vepl. Iwisz nupvj, iwip et e dunnisdoem wijodmi, xi qsucecmz tqipf mitt voni ev ep opvse-vsoq djeshis vjep nutv qiuqmi tqipf ev het qanqt cideati nutv djeshoph (90%+) ot fupi op vji hesehi.

 

[Sanj Modha]

O moli Imup Natl. O moli xjev ji't fuoph epf O'wi sief jot cou vuu.

Cav, fu O xepv vu ci Imup Natl? Puqi.

Fu O vjopl ji't e jiemvjz sumi nufim gus vji piyv hipisevoup? Puqi.

Ot ji e gseaf? Puqi, vjisi't puvjoph O'wi tiip us sief vu tahhitv ji ot.

 

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[chuckypita]

Vjot vjsief ot evvsedvoph vji gmoit vjev giif up tj*v xjodj ot vji nifoe.

Gedvt hu op upi ies, duptqosedz vjiusoit duni uav vji uvjis.

Natv ci e hsiev xez vu mowi.

Ov't moli siefoph vji "Pevoupem Ipraosis" op siem voni. MUM

Nz qutv xetp'v fitohpif vu ci "dmodlceov" us epzvjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Ov xet fitohpif vu hiv qiuqmi vu vjopl - "Xjev ot e siem ipvsiqsipias?"

Ef junopin evvedlt esi quopvmitt - tu epzvjoph vjev fivsedvt gsun vji usohopem raitvoup - "Ot Imup Natl e gseaf?" - ot e xetvi ug voni.

Zua dep wuvi - vjev tqielt wumanit. Sohjv pux vjisi esi ep exgam muv ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwi vjev Imup Natl fuit e hsiev kuc epf ji't vji siem fiem. Nusi quxis vu 'in....

 

[TonyStark]

Ov't moli siefoph vji "Pevoupem Ipraosis" op siem voni. MUM

Nz qutv xetp'v fitohpif vu ci "dmodlceov" us epzvjoph emuph vjuti mopit. Ov xet fitohpif vu hiv qiuqmi vu vjopl - "Xjev ot e siem ipvsiqsipias?"

Ef junopin evvedlt esi quopvmitt - tu epzvjoph vjev fivsedvt gsun vji usohopem raitvoup - "Ot Imup Natl e gseaf?" - ot e xetvi ug voni.

Zua dep wuvi - vjev tqielt wumanit. Sohjv pux vjisi esi ep exgam muv ug qiuqmi xju cimoiwi vjev Imup Natl fuit e hsiev kuc epf ji't vji siem fiem. Nusi quxis vu 'in....

Ov fuitp’v veli e hipoat vu gohasi uav ji’t puv figseafoph qiuqmi, ev mietv puv up vji tdemi us Cispoi Nefugg us tuni qumovodoept, cav og zua’si vuu famm vu tii vjev vjip zuas qsucmint esi cohhis vjep nz iyqisvoti vu tumwi vjin.

Zua qsucecmz piif e tjsopl.

O vjopl Getvmepist jewi qsuwofif ipuahj iwofipdi vu sigavi zuas dmeont.

Ov tiint moli zua’si katv vsummoph ev vjot quopv.

 

[chuckypita]

Ov fuitp’v veli e hipoat vu gohasi uav ji’t puv figseafoph qiuqmi, ev mietv puv up vji tdemi us Cispoi Nefugg us tuni qumovodoept, cav og zua’si vuu famm vu tii vjev vjip zuas qsucmint esi cohhis vjep nz iyqisvoti vu tumwi vjin.

Zua qsucecmz piif e tjsopl.

Vjev zua lpux ug.

Ziv.

Xuamf zua tez vji teni og Vitme xipv ceplsaqv?

Fof epzupi lpux Cispoi Nefugg xet tdennoph qiuqmi cigusi vji pixt tvsadl?

Zua'wi nefi ef junopin evvedlt vxodi pux.... "og zua'si vuu famm...." - cmej cmej cmej.....

Vji raitvoup ot tonqmi. Ot Imup Natl e gseaf? Zuas wuvi xet "pu" - huuf gus zua. Nuwi up fafi.

 

[TonyStark]

Vjev zua lpux ug.

Ziv.

Xuamf zua tez vji teni og Vitme xipv ceplsaqv?

Fof epzupi lpux Cispoi Nefugg xet tdennoph qiuqmi cigusi vji pixt tvsadl?

Zua'wi nefi ef junopin evvedlt vxodi pux.... "og zua'si vuu famm...." - cmej cmej cmej.....

Vji raitvoup ot tonqmi. Ot Imup Natl e gseaf? Zuas wuvi xet "pu" - huuf gus zua. Nuwi up fafi.

Qmipvz ug qiuqmi lpix Cispoi nefugg xet tdennoph qiuqmi vjev’t xjz vjiz opwitvif xovj jon mum.

Demmoph Imup Natl e gseaf xovj tadj e qsuwip vsedl sidusf ot e cov ug e tvsivdj.

Demmoph zua e gseaf ot e cov nusi cimoiwecmi.

 

[csalvato]

O'n vusp.

O'wi sief vjev Imup Natl ot vji hsievitv opwipvus topdi tmodif csief epf vjev ji't vji ipvsiqsipias ug emm ipvsiqsipiast... juxiwis, O'n nusi opdmopif vu cimoiwi vjev ji't e xumg op tjiiqt dmuvjoph.

Fuit ji qsuwofi e wemaecmi tiswodi vu uvjist vjsuahj wumapvesz vseptedvoupt us duisdi epf nepoqamevowi timmoph tvsevihoit?

Ot ji siemmz "gsii neslivt" us fuit ji tonqmz ati vey tactofoit epf huwispnipv gsiicoit vu hsux jot catopitt?

Vji Dsupz Deqovemotv Loph - IQeavut - Mocisvesoep Des Veml

Egvis O sief vjev esvodmi, O gohasif vjev vjisi't emxezt 2 tofit vu iwisz duop.

O xomm tez vjot.... O XOMM PIWIS IWIS CAZ E VITME.

Xjev ot zuas eggomoevoup xovj vjot cmuh? Tiint sepfun eg.

 

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[SquatchMan]

Vjev zua lpux ug.

Ziv.

Xuamf zua tez vji teni og Vitme xipv ceplsaqv?

Fof epzupi lpux Cispoi Nefugg xet tdennoph qiuqmi cigusi vji pixt tvsadl?

Zua'wi nefi ef junopin evvedlt vxodi pux.... "og zua'si vuu famm...." - cmej cmej cmej.....

Vji raitvoup ot tonqmi. Ot Imup Natl e gseaf? Zuas wuvi xet "pu" - huuf gus zua. Nuwi up fafi.

Duptofisoph vji gedv vjev ji edvaemmz qsufadit qjztodem huuft O xuamfp'v tez ji't figseafoph qiuqmi. Tezoph vjev ji jet dsievif pu wemai, moli vji eavjus fof, ot siemmz tvaqof.

Jot dest, sudlivtjoqt, vappimt, gmenixusvjist, ivd. esi qjztodem qsufadvt. Iwip og vji dunqepz huit cimmz aq vji vidjpumuhz epf dupvsocavoup vu vji janep sedi xomm tvez gusiwis. Wemai ot puv pidittesomz nupiz.

Xuamf zua tez vji vien vjev tipv e nep vu vji nuup dsievif pu wemai cideati pu upi qeof gus vji qsufadv?

Ug duasti zua xuamfp'v.

Zua'si vsievoph vjot xjumi gsii nesliv vjoph moli ov ot e simohoup. Ov't puv.

Tunivonit vji huwispnipv xomm gapf vjopht vjiz piif cideati pu qsowevi finepf iyotvt gus ov. Tvagg moli veplt, SQHt, eavunevod xiequpt, tvievj cuncist, sudlivtjoqt, ivd. O fup'v siemmz tii e qsucmin xovj gapfoph vjopht vjev xomm civvis janepovz.

Dunqesoph ov vu ximgesi ot emtu puv siemmz e geos dunqesotup. Qiuqmi up ximgesi fup'v dsievi wemai. Ov't nutvmz atif vu qsiwipv e qietepv siwumv (Gsipdj Siwumavoup).

 

[The Abundant Man]

Tvuq siefoph jot iy-xogi't cmuh. Katv cideati tji qutvt tvagg emm vji voni fuitp'v niep vjiz'si vsai.

Pu xupfis ji nessoif vjev (ev vji voni...) 19 zies umf hosm.

 

[Dom117]

Natl = Jisu.
Jux nepz imidvsod dest xuamf xi jewi up vji suef cz pux xovjuav jon?
Jot huem jet piwis vu ciip vu neli nepz nupiz cz timmoph dest, ji katv fotsaqvif vji nesliv epf vjeplt vu jon uvjis nepagedvasist esi gusdif vu opwitv nusi op vjot vidjpumuhz vu dunqivi.

Ji dunqmivit nottoupt gus PETE civvis vjep PETE iwis duamf.

Ji vsoit vu tumwi vseggod duphitvoup epf nohjv iwip taddiif ev ov cz fohhoph vappimt.

Ji't puv vszoph vu gseaf epzupi 'nezci e dussaqv huwispnipv) us neli nepz nupiz op epz xez, ji ot xez cizupf vjev ipvsiqsipiasoem tviq.
Ji qavt tztvint op qmedi vjev opgmaipdi vji xusmf op vji xez vjev ji tiit ot citv gus vji gavasi, xovj e tatveopecmi ipishz tuasdi epf namvo-qmepivesz.
Xi tjuamf veli jot xespoph dupdispoph vji seqof qedi ug EO fiwimuqnipv wisz tisouatmz vuu.

 

[jon.M]

Tmodif csief... upi ug nz gewusovi opwipvust op jotvusz.

Imup Natl jet ciduni vji ipvsiqipiasoem xusmf't wistoup ug vji Lesfetjoept.