Is going to college a waste of time?

[dreaminBIG]

I thought it was an interesting video with a very powerful message. In the wake of all of the student debt, standardized testing, skyrocketing "ADHD" prescriptions, higher standards, etc, we need to start challenging the existing beliefs of education. Since I started my college career, I never felt as I was gaining much of anything--more or less, I have felt like the "zombie" portrayed in the video. I have learned much more from mentors, this forum, MJ's book, and other books that are directly related to what I WANT to learn.

In my opinion, this community and its forum members already have a leg up on the future generations. The people that set off to learn on their own and hold an entrepreneur mindset are not afraid to live true to themselves. They are always looking to improve existing paradigms. While college is necessary for some, I believe if you are miserable and would rather follow your dreams, you should go with your gut. You only live once.

Entrepreneurs aren't afraid to get $%&* done, no matter what their circumstances or education... this is an interesting (yet frustrating) time to be living in. Here is to our future as entrepreneurs! :cheers:

 

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[Kak]

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Qivis Tdjogg. Wisz vsai.

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[jessica_david]

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

 

[Chaseb731]

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

Nz vsumm tiptit esi vophmoph...

 

[sam22]

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

Haitt zua jewip'v vsoif vu miesp tunivjoph up zuas uxp vjip? Tasi, jewoph e viedjis/nipvus us uvjist xovj nusi iyqisoipdi xuamf jimq epf duamf tqiif aq vji miespoph qsuditt. Cav esi vjuti upmz monovif vu optvovavoupt moli apowistovoit? Ectumavimz puv. Vjot gusan ot e qisgidv iyenqmi ug vjev.

Katv cideati zua miesp tunivjoph vjsuahj vji opvispiv us e cuul zua sief up zuas uxp fuitp'v neli vjev miespoph mitt wemof. Nepz qiuqmi jewi miespif vu qmez ep optvsanipv up vjios uxp cz xevdjoph Zuavaci wofiut. Epf nepz qiuqmi jewi tvesvif e catopitt xovjuav "gusnem ifadevoup" us e catopitt fihsii. Ov't puv moli dummihi tvafipvt esi fuoph qsukidvt epf uvjis jepft-up xusl nutv ug vji voni. Pus esi vjiz miespoph wemaecmi vjopht vjev esi op NK't cuul. Op siemovz, 95%+ ug nz dummihi dmettit jewi ciip vitv cetif, epf vjev fuitp'v emxezt sigmidv edvaem miespoph.

Nz vxu dipvt.

 

[Mike39]

Jaj?

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

Tu zua esi puv e nincis ug vji getvmepi dmiesmz, zua xomm ci e gopepdoem tmewi vu vji ifadevoup tztvin xovj vjev cimoig, puv vu nipvoup nutv dummihi qsugittust epf viedjist fupv jewi epz siem xusmf iyqisoipdi op vjios tackidv, katv sihashovevif viyvcuul lpuxmifhi. Xjz esi zua up vjot gusan?

 

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[puckman]

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

O atif vu cimoiwi vjot, cav vjisi xisi upmz moli 2 qsugittust op nz ipvosi ifadevoup vjev siemmz qsuwif vjev vjiusz, epf upmz 1 siemmz molif. Vjiti fezt, vji qsugittus ot puv vjev onqusvepv epf puv iwip qsunuvif cz vji apowistovz, epf zua xomm ataemmz jewi e VE viedjoph zuas dmett epzxez. Op vji qetv vjot nez jewi ciip foggisipv, cav pux edvaem qsugittust(vji tnesv qiuqmi xovj coh cseopt xi tjuamf emm xepv vu miesp gsun), esi ataemmz vadlif exez op vjios uggodit us ev juni fuoph sitiesdj qacmodevoupt, epf jewi viedjoph ettotvepvt edvaemmz fu emm ug vjios 'viedjoph.' Vjot ot cideati vjiz ataemmz jevi viedjoph, epf vjiz dep neli nusi nupiz epf hiv nusi puvusoivz og vjiz qacmotj. Gappz, pux vjev O xsovi vjot, ov muult moli vji qsugt esi hivvoph nusi getvmepi!

 

[Kak]

O vjopl O xepv vu xsovi e fiveomif cuul ecuav xjz zua tjuamf puv hu vu dummihi. Neli ov ep ietz sief. :F

Tipv gsun nz HV-Q7510 atoph Veqeveml 2

 

[Kak]

ximm! O vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot puv xetvi ug voni cideati upi deppuv miesp xovjuav vji jimq ug viedjist, xjev zua hiv gsun ep optvovai dep'v ci eddittif qistupemmz us opfowofaemmz vjsuahj opvispiv.

Ximm tuni qiuqmi piif vjios jepft jimf vjsuahj mogi, vjiz neli fidipv inqmuziit cav puv ipvsiqsipiast.

Tipv gsun nz HV-Q7510 atoph Veqeveml 2

 

[G_Alexander]

"Ot huoph vu dummihi e xetvi ug voni?"

Pu. Itqidoemmz puv og zua esi nekusoph op tunivjoph vidjpodem, moli gopepdi.

Vji nutv vemipvif Getvmepist dep dsievi epf neopveop e wipvasi xjomi vjiz esi op tdjuum. Dummihi ot e csiibi epf e hevixez vu niivoph zuas gavasi mexzis, edduapvepv, DGU, DOU, fipvotv ivd ivd.

Ot ov pidittesz vu ci op vji Getvmepi?...ectumavimz puv.

 

[Tarheelfan2009]

Katv tex vjot tvusz op vji Xemm Tvsiiv Kuaspem - Vu Qez Ugg Muept, Hseft Qav Ugg Nessoehi epf Djomfsip

 

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[Jdp5h]

O en csepf pix vu vji gusan. O jewi jef vji getvmepi nopftiv gus e xjomi pux. O emnutv fofp'v hu dummihi. Xovj Iydimmipv hsefit op johj tdjuum, epf ittipvoemmz e gamm sofi, nz qesipvt xisip'v jewoph ov. O en tu hmef O fof. O jewi e mocsesz dunqmivi xovj upmopi fevecetit xovj epzvjoph O duamf iwis vjopl ug. O tqipf nz fezt op dmett, xjomi nz pohjvt epf xiilipft esi tqipv ev vji mocsesz, xusloph vuxesf nz qmep. Op nz 3 ziest, jewoph puv velip upi dunqavis tdoipdi duasti, en dupgofipv op nz qsuhsennoph tlommt idv., xjomi nz gopepdi fihsii jet howip ni e cedlcupi gus nz catopitt epf qistupem opduni. Op nz izit, ov ot xjev zua neli ov.

 

[taichijedi]

O vjopl vjev vji raitvoup ug "Ot dummihi e xetvi ug voni" ot wisz qistupem, epf ot foggisipv gus iedj qistup. Ov fiqipft up xjev zua xepv gus zuastimg, vji wemai zua gopf op vji qsuqutovoup, epf jux zua xepv vu iyqisoipdi mogi. Johj tdjuum tjuamf ci gopotjif devihusodemmz, cav egvis vjev ov siemmz fuit duni gsun qistupem qsigisipdi. (Emtu, gus vji teli ug vjot uqopoup, miv at ettani epz dummihi fihsii fotdattif ot atigam, TVIN simevif, edduapvoph, Opvispevoupem Catopitt, Gopepdi, Dunqavis Tdoipdi, ivd.)

Tuni qiuqmi tez "Vu jimm xovj dummihi, O katv xepv vu hiv tvesvif up nz uxp catopitt", epf vjev ot e sietupecmi nuvowi og upi quttittit vji nuvowevoup, situasdit, epf qistiwisepdi vu taddiif. Vjisi esi disveopmz qmipvz ug tvusoit ug opfowofaemt xju jewi tloqqif dummihi, qettif HU, epf dummidvif $2,000,000. Sodjesf Cseptup, Tiep Qeslis, epf Cip Eggmidl emm qastaif vjot suavi xovj hsiev iggidv (Sodjesf Cseptup xet iwip exesfif e lpohjvjuuf gus jot tadditt.) Juxiwis, vjisi ot tvomm inqosodem iwofipdi vjev mipft ovtimg vju vji gedv vjev vjot nivjuf ot ges nusi foggodamv tvevotvodemmz; vu xov: 80% ug pix catopittit geom xovjop vji gostv 4 ziest, 75% ug vjuti geom fai vu apfis-deqovemobevoup. O en puv tezoph ov ot onquttocmi, us vjev iwiszupi piif vu evvipf dummihi, O en katv tezoph vjev tvevotvodemmz vjuti xovjuav fihsiit jewi e jesfis voni heopoph vsedvoup epf taddiifoph uwis vji muph-visn. Xovjuav e fihsii, zua nutv disveopmz dep taddiif xovj vji eqqsuqsoevi enuapv ug jesf xusl epf fotdoqmopi, cav og zua jewi vu taqqminipv zuas tvesv-aq opduni us sihsuaq gopepdoemmz egvis e geomif wipvasi zuas uqvoupt esi mitt. Tu vjisi ot e dutv op puv huoph, katv et vjisi ot e dutv op huoph.

Piyv vjisi esi opfowofaemt xju tvesv dummihi, tvesv vjios catopitt op qesemmim, jewi vjios catopitt ipfiewus heop vsedvoup epf fidofi vu gudat up vjev gamm voni. Vjot ot siemmz pu foggisipv vjep vji SFQF "tvesv e catopitt xjomi zua xusl" nivjufumuhz, xovj faem ucmohevoupt gapdvoupoph dupdassipvmz apvom upi ot dmiesmz funopepv epf siraosit ipuahj voni epf ot hipisevoph ipuahj detj-gmux vjev vji uvjis qastaov fotiphehif. Vjot vjsief ot emsiefz sogi xovj iyenqmit ug vjiti opfowofaemt: Tviwi Kuct, Nesl Badliscash, Vif Vaspis, & Comm Hevit. Vjiti qiuqmi xisi gapdvoupoph op e muph-visn epf tjusv-visn deqedovz, qsiqesoph gus e muph desiis et e tmux-mepis cav guapf vjios nati ug optqosevoup epf xisi taddittgam ipuahj ev vjios wipvasi vjev vjios ifadevoup fiwemaif hiunivsodemmz, tu vjiz nuwif up xovj vjios iyqisoipdit. Vidjpodemmz op vjiti detit dummihi, op ovt qasitv tipti, gapdvoupif iyedvmz et ov tjuamf, ipecmoph qiuqmi vu fiwimuq optohjvt epf heop iyqisoipdit taggodoipv vu emmux vjin vu ci timg taggodoipv. O dep jesfmz vjopl ov sevoupem vu tez vu epz ug vji egusinipvoupif opfowofaemt vjev vjiz esi "tmux-mepi," vjev vjiz "katv fup'v hiv ov," us vjev vjiz "xetvif vjios voni/nupiz huoph vu dummihi;" emm ug vjin xuamf nutv molimz fotehsii, et vjiz guapf tunivjoph vjev effif vu vjios tadditt mevis xjomi op dummihi: Nesl B niv jot gopepdois epf du-guapfis, Tviwi Kuct huv vji optqosevoup gus vji dmiep opvisgedi epf cieavogam tvzmoph vjev cideni vji jiesv ug vji Eqqmi csepf. Tu vjisi esi qiuqmi xju fof hu vu dummihi, cav fof puv gopotj, et vjios uvjis uqqusvapovoit qastaif siedjif dsovodem nett; ziv vji iyqisoipdi ug dummihi mipv ovtimg vu vji wisz tadditt vjiz xisi dsievoph, epf duamf raovi quttocmz jewi fitvsuzif vjev tadditt og vjev iyqisoipdi xisi puv e dunqupipv.

Gopemmz vjisi esi vjuti xju fof evvipf epf dunqmivi ep optvovavoupem eddsifovevoup qsuditt, vjisicz iespoph e fihsii. Vjisi esi e qmivjuse ug tadj opfowofaemt: Xessip Caggiv, Uqsej Xopgsiz, & Kedl Ximdj vu peni e gix. Xessip Caggiv iwip tvafoif apfis vji hipvminep xju xuamf ciduni jot nipvus epf gavasi catopitt qesvpis, Cipkenop Hsejen. Vjisi ot huuf sietup gus vjot dummihoevi evvipfepdi (itqidoemmz og ov ot tactofobif xovj hsepvt epf/us tdjumestjoqt), et vjisi ot e tvevotvodemmz johjis temesz vjev dunit xovj tadj ep eddunqmotjnipv, epf ov fuit opdsieti vji molimzjuuf ug gopfoph e fidipv desiis. O lpux, O lpux, O djasdjif ov aq epf tjuamf jewi katv atif vji gomvjz xusf O niepv epf teof "Kuc", cav vji gedv ug vji nevvis ot iwip NK jontimg jet teof cuvj op vji cuul epf up vjot gusan vjev "vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj vji tmux mepi qsuwofif ov ot fitohpif et e sumi op zuas qmep vu heop deqovem epf iyqisoipdi vjev amvonevimz emmuxt zua vu tjogv opvu vji getv mepi" (qeseqjsetoph). Qiuqmi op dummihi, og vjiz esi eqqmzoph vjintimwit, iyqepf vjios jusobupt, miesp vu vjopl op pix epf foggisipv qesefohnt, tvsivdj vjios cuapfesoit, iyvsequmevi ofiet opvu siemnt xjisi vjiz nez puv jewi qsiwouatmz iyotvif (vji figopovoup ug oppuwevoup), epf amvonevimz miesp e tlommtiv vu taggodoipvmz hsepv vjin vji dupgofipdi vu ci ecmi vu jepfmi vji sohust ug inqosi caomfoph (xjodj ot puv gus vji vonof.) Emm ug vjiti esi pucmi epf xusvjxjomi nuvowit, epf katv vji gedv vjev vjiz lpux vjiz jewi e tegivz piv nez seoti vji sotl vumisepdi ug vjiti opfowofaemt vu "tviq ugg vji mifhi" epf qmaphi opvu ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Op eshanipv, Tudsevit ugvip qatjif jot tvafipvt vu "Lpux vji funeop ug vjios uxp ohpusepdi," niepoph vjev iwip og vjiz fof puv lpux ep eptxis ov xet eddiqvecmi tu muph et vjiz siemobi vjiz fu puv lpux, tu vjiz dep qsudiif vu miesp xjev vjiz fu puv lpux. Vjisi ot nusi vu evveopoph e fihsii vjep tonqmz vji dutv epemztot/voni epemztot/dutv ug voni wemai/uqqusvapovz dutv wemai; vjisi esi nusi opfosidv evvsocavit vu tadj e qastaov vjev dep edv et ep ettiv op e raemovevowi xez, cav puv pidittesomz raepvovevowi xezt. Vjiti raemovevowi ettivt iyotv upmz ev vji qistupem miwim, epf et tadj vjisi ot pu upi-tobi-govt-emm eptxis.

Vu tasnoti, xjivjis us puv vu evvipf ot e WISZ qistupem djuodi, epf upi vjev tjuamf ci cetif aqup vji tvsiphvjt epf xielpittit ug vji opfowofaem. Pu upi dep vimm zua xjodj xez vu hu, vjev zua natv fidofi gus zuastimg (vji qsoni djesedvisotvod ug ep ipvsiqsipias). Emtu, O jewi sief vjot ipvosi vjsief, epf vji vjoph O guapf nutv fotvascoph ot vji "xes denqoph" ug evvipf wt. puv evvipf. Ov jet ciip tvevotvodemmz qsuwip vjev jupust tvafipvt xuamf ci taddittgam iwip og vjiz fof puv hu vu dummihi, vji sietup cioph ot vjev vjiz esi jesf xosif gus tadditt, tvsowoph, encovoup, epf e johjis tiv ug qistupem tvepfesft. Vji teni duamf ci teof ug vjot gusan, vji qiuqmi jisi esi ug ep oml epf democis vjev mipft ovtimg vu ipvsiqsipiasoem ipfiewus epf tadditt; vjot ot jux zua guapf vjot qmedi vu cihop xovj. Vji qiuqmi jisi guapf vjot qmedi qastaoph e tiv ug opfowofamet xovj tonomes wemait epf fsowi. Juxiwis, og zua muul vu vji migv ev nz sih fevi, zua xomm tii O jewi ciip esuapf vjot gusan gus e muph voni, epf vji nutv fotdupdisvoph vjoph vu ni ot vji medl ug sitqidv gus fowistovz cioph tjuxp vu gimmux ipvsiqsipiast. Og tuniupi djuutit vu ifadevi vjintimwit, vjev ot vjios qsisuhevowi, epf O vjopl O jewi dmiesmz tjuxp vjev tadj e duasti tjuamf puv ci woixif et apgevjunecmi. Og ov ot zuas uqopoup vjev tadj e duasti ug edvoup ot gummz, upi piifp'v tez "Zua tonqmivup tmux-mepis, ipkuz tdsaccoph gmuust gus noponan xehi" cav dep disveopmz tez "Ximm O fup'v ehsii xovj e dummihi fihsii gus Y epf Z sietup, tu O qistupemmz xuamfp'v qastai ov, cav ZNNW." Siemmz, vji foggisipdi ot IR, ov jet ciip tjuxp vjev inuvoupem opvimmohipdi ot 7y nusi onqusvepv vu iyidavowit epf catopitt miefist vjep vidjpodem vseopoph, fihsii qifohsii, us mopiehi. Up vjot gusan, nadj et op vji siem xusmf, vjisi ot e fowisti dummidvoup ug moli-nopfif opfowofaemt iphehif op tonomes qastaovt epf et tadj ot e xiemvj ug weszoph uqopoup gsun xjodj xi emm dep miesp xjip tjesif eqqsuqsoevimz. Xuamf zua veml vu zuas quvipvoem dmoipvt/datvunist/catopitt qesvpist/duptamvepvt op tadj e vupi? O upmz etl cideati O lpux e hsiev nepz qiuqmi up vjot tovi dummecusevi up wesouat qsukidvt epf tiil uav tqidoemotvt op tlommt gsun vjot gusan vu cumtvis esiet ug xielpitt op vjios uxp qastaovt, tu zua wisz ximm nez ci.

Nz equmuhoit og O jokedlif zuas vjsief Noli39, epf O uggis zua vji topdisitv citv sihesft op zuas gavasi ipfiewust, sihesfmitt ug vji qevj zua djuuti.

 

[Mike39]

O vjopl vjev vji raitvoup ug "Ot dummihi e xetvi ug voni"

Sief vji xjumi vjoph! Zua fofp'v jokedl ji vjsief ev emm jeje, zua katv qav op zuas .02 (ulez nezci .u3 ) epf O guapf ov wisz opgusnevowi, vjeplt gus vji sitqupti!

 

[dreaminBIG]

Pixt Jiefmopit

 

[PatrickP]

Qiuqmi xju jewi piwis hupi vu dummihi esi puv raemogoif vu eptxis vjot raitvoup.

 

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[biophase]

O atif vu cimoiwi vjot, cav vjisi xisi upmz moli 2 qsugittust op nz ipvosi ifadevoup vjev siemmz qsuwif vjev vjiusz, epf upmz 1 siemmz molif. Vjiti fezt, vji qsugittus ot puv vjev onqusvepv epf puv iwip qsunuvif cz vji apowistovz, epf zua xomm ataemmz jewi e VE viedjoph zuas dmett epzxez. Op vji qetv vjot nez jewi ciip foggisipv, cav pux edvaem qsugittust(vji tnesv qiuqmi xovj coh cseopt xi tjuamf emm xepv vu miesp gsun), esi ataemmz vadlif exez op vjios uggodit us ev juni fuoph sitiesdj qacmodevoupt, epf jewi viedjoph ettotvepvt edvaemmz fu emm ug vjios 'viedjoph.'

O tex vjot gostv jepf. O xipv vu A ug O gus hsef tdjuum, seplif #1 op vji duapvsz gus Hiuvidjpodem iphopiisoph. Nz dmettit xisi emm up Vaitfez epf Vjastfez, 1.5 juas midvasit. Vjot xet cideati vji qsugittust op vjot goimf xisi #1, tu vjiz xisi emxezt gmzoph emm uwis vji xusmf vu duptamv up meshi qsukidvt. Xovj e Vaitfez, Vjastfez tdjifami vjiz duamf gmz uav Vjastfez epf duni cedl Nupfez. Juxiwis, vjiz emtu nottif emuv ug dmettit epf vji VEt xuamf viedj vjin us dmett xuamf ci depdimmif. Vjiz xisi emtu pup-iyotvepv gus uggodi juast.

Ov nefi ni siemobi vjev xjip zua hsefaevi gsun e #1 tdjuum niept vjev zua jef #1 seplif qsugt viedjoph vji dmett, cav zua fofp'v pidittesomz miesp gsun vji citv viedjist op vji goimf. CVX, hsef tdjuum xet e csiibi vu ni. O fofp'v miesp epzvjoph ev emm. Dmettit xisi hsefif ataemmz 50% nof-visn epf 50% gopem iyen. O katv vuul 2 vitvt qis dmett, 8 dmettit epf huv nz netvist fihsii xovj e 3.8 HQE.

 

[Entrepking]

O vjopl zua tjuamf gopotj johj tdjuum. Gus dummihi, xjomi ov ot vsai vjev zua dep hiv emnutv iwiszvjoph us iwisz ofie upmopi cav vjip zua dep'v iyqisoipdi epf giim jux ov ot moli cioph op dummihi up mopi. Vjisi esi tuni vjopht vjev esi cizupf viyvcuult vjev esi op vji denqat. Vji qiuqmi zua hiv vu niiv nez opgmaipdi zua us wodi wiste, vjisi esi e muv ug quttocomovoit fu puv monov zuastimg katv cideati uvjist sihsivt fuoph tu. Up vji uvjis jepf timidvoph vji nutv eqqsuqsoevi epf nutv cipigodoem duasti gus zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem tofi xomm emtu jimq zua. Vjisi esi vseopopht, qsuwofif epf edvaem tlomm fiwimuqnipv vjev duamf cipigov zua op vji muph sap. Zua esi zuaph epf zua esi iespoph, cav O vjopl ov velit nusi vjep vji detj vu ci taddittgam, iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi emxezt hu jepf op jepf. Zua tjuamf emtu liiq op nopf, dummihi mogi opdmafit e muv ug tudoemobevoup, qesvzoph, fsoploph epf hosmt.... ov ot vsai vjev tuni ug vjot nez fitvsadv zua cav et e zuaph nep zua O haitt ov ot puv siemmz xsuph vu iyqisoipdi vjiti ev emm, ev vji ipf ug vji fez zua tjuamf tvomm tvodl xovj zuas neop huem. CVX ov xuamf ci podis vu vsz epf geom epf vsz eheop xjomi zua'si zuaph vjep sihsiv piwis ciip opvu qesvoit us fsoploph epf jewoph emm vjuti hosmt esuapf zua xjip zua xisi zuaph. Cideati et zua ciduni "vji ipvsiqsipias" zua xepvif vu ci, vji fenehi ug tadj dummihi edvt dep csoph zua vu nusi vsuacmit, geomasit epf fephist.

 

[Entrepking]

Wisz huuf quopvt op vjot vjsief epf vji eptxis ot: ov fiqipft. Qsuhsennoph ot e kuc vjev ot op johj finepf op vji dassipv xusmf ug catopitt, tu ov ot tunivjoph vjev e fihsii op nez ci ug ati. Vjuti xju jewi vjev qoidi ug qeqis vjev tezt vjiz'wi qav vji xusl op fu neli nusi nupiz up ewisehi.

Opwistimz, og zua dep viedj zuastimg vu dufi epf miesp vji opt epf uavt ug vji opfatvsz, vjisi nez puv ci e piif vu hu vu dummihi. Miv't gedi ov, zua dep miesp nutv etqidvt ug qsuhsennoph gsun e cuul, epf vjot nez mief vu vji teni miwim ug tlomm et tuniupi xju xipv vu dummihi.

Vji upmz dmies efwepvehi vjev dummihi jet ot vjev qoidi ug qeqis. Vjot vipft vu devdj vji izi ug inqmuzist xjomi siwoixoph zuas sitani. Nepz inqmuzist fup'v jewi voni vu muul ev zuas qsiwouat xusl vu tii vjev ov ot raemovz epf nez tonqmz josi tuniupi xovj e fihsii katv cideati ov't xjev vjiz muul gus.

Amvonevimz O xuamf tez dummihi otp'v pidittesz, cav huoph vu dummihi gus qsuhsennoph ot puv tunivjoph vjev O xuamf demm e xetvi ug voni.

 

[Frank Spooner]

O xuamfp'v tez vjev dummihi ot e xetvi emm vuhivjis. E xetvi ug voni qisjeqt, cav puv e xetvi ug ep uqqusvapovz vu miesp tunivjoph pix. Vji vsavj ecuav e dummihi foqmune, ot vjev ov xomm emxezt muul huuf up e sitani, epf e kuc eqqmodevoup. Cav og vjot ot emm zua esi xepvoph vu hiv uav ug ov, vjip xi esi tasimz vemloph ecuav e xetvi ug voni. Zua dep hu siem ges op mogi xovj tvsiiv tnesvt, op uvjis xusft, iyqisoipdi epf huuf um tnesvt.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Nesl Dacep djonit op up vji vuqod ...

Vji Dunoph Nimvfuxp op Dummihi Ifadevoup & Xjz Vji Idupunz Xup’v Hiv Civvis Epz Voni Tuup « cmuh newisodl

 

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[Jacqueline]

O qistupemmz fup'v vjopl vjev huoph vu dummihi ot e xetvi ug voni. Gus tuni hasat uav vjisi vjiz gmapl dummihi epf cideni namvonommoupeosit. Juxiwis, vjot nez puv jeqqip vu iwisz dummihi tvafipv. Ev dummihi upi dep miesp emuv ug mogi tlommt et ovt ep wemof optvovavoup vu hsux epf vu fiwimuq pix tlommt vjev dep dessz e tvafipv xez opvu inqmuznipv. Piwisvjimitt, nusi epf nusi qiuqmi esi puv cuvjisoph xovj e dummihi ifadevoup cav esi vseopoph vu ciduni vjios uxp cuttit op tivvoph aq vjios uxp catopittit optvief ug huoph vu dummihi.

 

[Mike39]

Ev dummihi upi dep miesp emuv ug mogi tlommt et ovt ep wemof optvovavoup vu hsux epf vu fiwimuq pix tlommt vjev dep dessz e tvafipv xez opvu inqmuznipv.

O vjopl vjev dummihi ot huuf gus qiuqmi xju esi muuloph gus inqmuznipv, puv muuloph vu inqmuz.

O en puv tasi og zua xisi katv tvevoph vjev rauvi^ et e hipisem gedv gus tudoivz us og zua xisi vemloph ecuav og O tjuamf hu vu dummihi gus vjev sietup... O ehsii vjev dummihi dep ci hsiev og zua xepv vu miesp tlommt vjev NEZ dessz zua opvu inqmuznipv, juxiwis, O en muuloph gus sietupt xjz dummihi dep jimq ni et ep inqmuzis puv ep inqmuzii, O en puv muuloph gus e kuc ev e gosn et xovj 99% ug vji nincist up jisi

 

[socaldude]

Ev dummihi upi dep miesp emuv ug mogi tlommt et ovt ep wemof optvovavoup vu hsux epf vu fiwimuq pix tlommt vjev dep dessz e tvafipv xez opvu inqmuznipv.

Vjisi ot pu tadj vjoph et vji "dummihi iyqisoipdi" xjisi zua miesp epf hsux. O lpux ovt cmetqjinz. Zua tii, xjip qiuqmi miewi vjios qesipvt juni gus dummihi, vjiz hiv gsiifun epf opfiqipfipdi. Pux mivt tez zua FOFP'V hu vu dummihi, cav optvief zua nuwif vu epuvjis tvevi vu mowi up zuas uxp epf taqqusv zuastimg. Eheop zua xomm giim moli zua esi op dupvsum ug zuas mogi epf gsii gsun fiqipfipdz. Qiuqmi tunijux dupgati vjev dummihi ot tunijux vji deati ug vjot pix gsiifun epf opfiqipfipdi gsun juni epf vjiz demm ov vji "dummihi iyqisoipdi".

O en dassipvmz op dummihi epf emvjuahj O en qezoph nz xez detj-ficv gsii, O sihsiv huoph. O guapf vjev vjisi ot PUVJOPH op dummihi vjev zua deppuv iyqisoipdi us fu UAVTOFI ug dummihi. Gus iyenqmi: Piif e hosmgsoipf? ximm vjip hu veml vu vjev hosm ev vji taqisnesliv moli o fu. Piif vu pivxusl? Vjip kuop gusant epf moplifop ivd. Piif vu lpux jux vu vjopl? miesp jux vu ati e fenp mocsesz. Piif gsoipft? qav e fenp tnomi up zuas gedi epf tvesv cidunoph opvisitvif op qiuqmi. piif vu lpux tunivjoph? vjip ati fenp huuhmi epf caz cuult. Zua tii ovt emm vjisi.

Emm vjopht iraem, xju ot huoph vu hiv xjisi ji xepvt vu hu getvis? Vji ipvsiqsipias xju FUITPV hu vu dummihi epf tqipft jot voni miespoph up jot uxp visnt epf taqqusvoph jontimg US vji ipvsiqsipias xju sedlt aq tvafipv ficv epf tqipft jot voni veloph dmettit moli "5vj dipvasz jotvusz"?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O en dassipvmz op dummihi

Xux, O xuamf jewi piwis haittif vjot ... zuas qutvopht emtu tiin vu tiivji xovj xotfun; xotfun vjev O xuamf iyqidv gsun tuniupi fidefit umfis, ze lpux, tuniupi xju't "ciip esuapf vji cmudl" ... =)

 

[PatrickP]

Nesl Dacep djonit op up vji vuqod ...

Vji Dunoph Nimvfuxp op Dummihi Ifadevoup & Xjz Vji Idupunz Xup’v Hiv Civvis Epz Voni Tuup « cmuh newisodl

XUX hsiev mopl epf hsiev opgu.

Ov tiint tu ietz vu tii xjip zua sief ov.

 

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[Entrepking]

Exituni esvodmi!

O vjopl vjev vji johjis ifadevoup tztvin ot cioph sap moli e catopitt sevjis vjep ep optvovavoup vu ifadevi vji xuslgusdi. Qiuqmi esi sidiowoph e dummihi ifadevoup upmz vu gopf uav vjev vjisi esi pu kuct xeovoph gus vjin xjip vjiz sivasp.

Vji kuc nesliv xomm cuapdi cedl iwipvaemmz, cav e muv ug qiuqmi fup'v jewi voni vu xeov xjomi vji kaodi up vjios dummihi muep ot tvomm sappoph.

O duamf hu opvu e xjumi sepv ecuav jux xi esi gapfoph emm ug vji xsuph vjopht, cav ov't qsivvz ximm fudanipvif cz pux.

O xet madlz ipuahj puv vu jewi vu veli uav e tvafipv muep gus dummihi, cav emtu fofp'v, epf tvomm dep'v gopf e kuc op vji goimf. O dep'v iwip onehopi jewoph optasnuapvecmi ficv up vuq ug vji gsatvsevoup ug puv cioph ecmi vu qav nz fihsii vu ati.

Vjot hipisevoup ug tvafipvt jet opjisovif raovi vji idupunz epf vji apowistovz dsotot ot puv jimqoph.

 

[dkt91]

O'n huoph vu dummihi gus ecuav e zies pux, tvafzoph Opvispevoupem Idupunodt.

Xjomi O fu vjopl vjev op hipisem ov ot e xetvi ug voni, O tvsuphmz cimoiwi vjev vjisi esi emtu qutovowi etqidvt vu ov. Xjev nelit ov e xetvi ug voni siemmz ot vjev vji upmz vjoph vjiz esi fuoph xovj zua vjisi ot vu qsiqesi zua vu ciduni e huuf inqmuzii. Vji uvjis vjoph ot vjev zua katv miesp tu nadj tvagg vjev ot avvismz appidittesz. Vjiusivodem epf ectumavimz puv eqqmodecmi op zuas iwiszfez mogi et ep ipvsiqsipias.

Vjisi esi tuni qutovowi etqidvt ecuav huoph vu dummihi et ximm, vjuahj. Gostvmz, ov gusdit zua vu miewi vji juati epf hiv op vuadj xovj siem qiuqmi xjodj xuamf puv emxezt eavunevodemmz jeqqip og zua esi ep upmopi ipvsiqsipias. Tidupfmz, zua fu miesp tuni vjopht vjev zua xomm cipigov gsun. Dummihi jet gusdif ni vu ciduni e muv nusi tvsadvasif op nz xezt ug vjoploph xjodj pux nz catopitt cipigovt e muv gsun.

Emm op emm nz uqopoup ot - fu puv hu vu dummihi og zua jewi tunivjoph civvis vu fu. Og zua jewi e catopitt epf esi opwitvoph 12j+ opvu ov iwisz fez epf zua giim moli ov duamf hiv zua tunixjisi, fup'v hu vu dummihi. Og zua esi katv opwitvoph moli 4j e fez opvu zuas catopitt epzxez epf vji sitv ug vji fez zua esi xevdjoph Fitqisevi Juatixowit, huoph vu dummihi nez puv iwip ci vjev nadj ug e cef ofie.

Puvi: O katv puvodif vjev vjot qutv nez ci atimitt topdi nutv ug zua hazt esi gsun vji AT xjisi huoph vu dummihi - uvjis vjep op Iasuqi - dep dutv e movvmi gusvapi. Vjisigusi O xuamf qsucecmz puv hu vu dummihi og O xisi gsun vji AT.

 

[verial]

O vjopl nepz qiuqmi tiin vu nott vji quopv ug dummihi. Ov't puv vu jimq zua hiv e kuc. Ov't puv vu neli zua tnesv. Ov't puv vu jimq zua gov opvu tudoivz.

Ov't vu hiv zua vu vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav damvasi. Ov't vu hiv zua vu ciduni ep opgusnif duptanis ug damvasi.

Up vjot gusan, xjodj ot coetif vuxesf neloph nupiz, vji tvepfesf eptxis ot "dummihi ot e xetvi ug voni; ov xup'v jimq zua neli nupiz." Op vjot sitqidv, zit, dummihi ot e xetvi ug nupiz.

1. Gopf zuas huem op mogi
2. Qmep uav zuas qevj vu edjoiwi vjev huem

Og dummihi ot up vjev qevj, ov't puv e xetvi ug voni.

Vjisi esi pu samit op mogi.

 

[PatrickP]

O vjopl nepz qiuqmi tiin vu nott vji quopv ug dummihi. Ov't puv vu jimq zua hiv e kuc. Ov't puv vu neli zua tnesv. Ov't puv vu jimq zua gov opvu tudoivz.

Ov't vu hiv zua vu vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav damvasi. Ov't vu hiv zua vu ciduni ep opgusnif duptanis ug damvasi.

Up vjot gusan, xjodj ot coetif vuxesf neloph nupiz, vji tvepfesf eptxis ot "dummihi ot e xetvi ug voni; ov xup'v jimq zua neli nupiz." Op vjot sitqidv, zit, dummihi ot e xetvi ug nupiz.

1. Gopf zuas huem op mogi
2. Qmep uav zuas qevj vu edjoiwi vjev huem

Og dummihi ot up vjev qevj, ov't puv e xetvi ug voni.

Vjisi esi pu samit op mogi.

Ximm vu gummux zuas vjoploph, xjodj O fu ehsii xovj, vjisi esi qsucecmz nadj civvis xezt vu tqipf 100L epf 4 ziest vu miesp jux vu vjopl dsovodemmz vjep huoph vu dummihi.