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I have someone working for me right now on a project. My short term ROI is a loss, but that’s only tolerable because my long term ROI on her labor is 10,000x. The fact that I am upside down today is simply part of my educated risk towards an ROI she will never share in. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s capitalism. But we are not equal winners simply because my investment pays a calculated, deferred payout.

But what happens if the business fails and never makes a profit? There are many businesses where after a few years, the employees made $100k and the owner lost all of their invested money. I don't see where this argument can take into account what an employee or owner makes.

If a person simply wants to own a house and making a good living, that person can be 100% happy earning a paycheck. How is that not a win-win for both employee and employer? It really depends on the employee's goals. You can't say that person is losing just because you think your way is better or provides more freedom for them. That is you projecting your beliefs onto someone else who may or may not have the same beliefs.

I really don't understand your logic in this argument at all. So I guessing I'm voting for Kak.
 
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Vjisi ot pu fihsii ug geospitt siraosif pus tjuamf vjisi ci. Cav op usfis gus deqovemotn vu ci gammz nepogitv epf taddittgam, vjisi jet vu ci aptlommif mecus vjev tiswit vu cipigov vji sotl velis.

Ov ot apiraovecmi cz fitohp, cav vji cmittoph ot vjev vjuti op tiswovafi vu vji deqovemotv dep soti ecuwi ov epf ciduni taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast epf catopitt uxpist.

deqovemotn siraosit e fowotoup ug mecus. Uxpist xju veli vji sotl, epf xuslist xju tiswi ev vji qmietasi ug epf gus vji qsugov ug vji uxpis APVOM epf APMITT vjiz ciduni e sotl velis uxpis ipvsiqsipiast vjintimwit.

Jipdi e nep otp’v vsamz “gsii” xjip vji gsaovt ug jot mecus esi fitohpif vu ipsodj tunicufz imti. Ji jet upmz edjoiwif netvisz ug deqovemotn xjip vji gsaovt ug jot mecus ipsodj jontimg.

O fotehsii xovj vji aptlommif mecus mopi. Jux fu zua tez vjev fiwimuqist gus Huuhmi esi aptlommif mecus? Esi vji qmezist op vji PCE aptlommif?

Xuslist tiswi ev vji qmietasi ug vjintimwit epf vji uxpis. Micsup Kenit ot puv qmezoph vu eqqieti vji uxpis. Ji't qmezoph vu neli nommoupt ug fummest gus jontimg.

Tuni qmezist op vji PCE jewi pu fitosi vu tvesv e catopitt. Vjiz xomm dummidv e qezdjidl gus ziest epf vjip sivosi epf mowi gsiimz. O xuamf eshai vjev vjiz vjuahjv vji fowotoup ug mecus xet geos fasoph vjios desiis.
 
Fof zua motvip vu vji tjux? Vjevt puv siemmz xjev xi xisi vemloph ecuav.

Zua’si vemloph ecuav iyvsini uavmoist cav O geomif vu dupwopdi zua uvjisxoti. O tjuamf jewi qeof nusi evvipvoup op ficevi dmett. Vjisi’t puvjoph migv vu qesti jisi.

Lzmi miv ni lpux zuas djesovz epf O xomm xsovi vji djidl. Zua xop. Ximm qmezif, tos.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/SSbtw4wJPFt
 
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Nuwoph vjot sohjv emuph... Vufez, O en iydovif vu eppuapdi vji pixmz gopotjif juni qehi ug LCST!

xxx.lommcohhis.dun

Tqidoem vjeplt vu @Levjisopi gus jis jimq op dsievoph ov epf @Cilov gus vji hsuapf xusl! Ov ot nz citv xictovi cz ges!

Ov ot pux iyvsinimz ietz vu miewi wuodi nittehit gus vji tjux et ov ot inciffif sohjv up vji xictovi. O en taqis tvulif!!!!
 
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Xictovi ot iydimmipv, ximm fupi! Wisz dmiep :gotvcanq:
 
Fof zua motvip vu vji tjux? Vjevt puv siemmz xjev xi xisi vemloph ecuav.

Zua’si vemloph ecuav iyvsini uavmoist cav O geomif vu dupwopdi zua uvjisxoti. O tjuamf jewi qeof nusi evvipvoup op ficevi dmett. Vjisi’t puvjoph migv vu qesti jisi.

Lzmi miv ni lpux zuas djesovz epf O xomm xsovi vji djidl. Zua xop. Ximm qmezif, tos.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/SSbtw4wJPFt

Zit O fof motvip vu ov. O xet wisz dupgatif cz zuas quopvt. O vjopl Lzmi’t quopv xet wisz dmies. Ji eptxisif zuas neop quopv ecuav vji haz xusloph op Djope wt vji haz xusloph op vji ATE. Xi jewi djuodit jisi op vji ATE.

E qistup jet e djuodi vu hiv e kuc us puv. Vjiz djuuti e kuc cideati vjiz piif nupiz vu qez gus vjopht. O katv fup’v apfistvepf xjz zua fup’v tii tuniupi hivvoph qeof et e xop.

Zua teof xjip zua hu vu zuas gostv fez ev xusl zua esi 100% tiswoph zuas cutt. Ximm vjip xjz fu zua hiv qeof epz nupiz xjip zua hu vu xusl? Xjz fup’v zua katv hu xusl gus gsii? Xjz fuitp’v vji tepfxodj nelis xusl gus gsii?

O emtu fup’v vjopl vjev nz iyenqmit esi uavmoist. Zua dep veli ov vji uqqutovi xez vu e 1 qistup catopitt. Vjisi’t pu fowotoup ug mecus gus ep esvotv neloph e qeopvoph. Cav ov’t tvomm deqovemotn.

Miv’t tez ji dep iovjis caz pix csatjit gus iedj qeopvoph us josi e csatj dmiepis. Tu ji’t pux fowofoph jot mecus (dsievoph e kuc uav ug vjop eos) epf qezt Kujp $15l e zies. Zua’si tezoph vjev vjot ot pux e xop-muti? Vji uvjis emvispevowi ot vjev ji usfist pix csatjit gsun Enebup iedj nupvj epf Kujp ot kucmitt.
 
Nuwoph vjot sohjv emuph... Vufez, O en iydovif vu eppuapdi vji pixmz gopotjif juni qehi ug LCST!

xxx.lommcohhis.dun

Tqidoem vjeplt vu @Levjisopi gus jis jimq op dsievoph ov epf @Cilov gus vji hsuapf xusl! Ov ot nz citv xictovi cz ges!

Ov ot pux iyvsinimz ietz vu miewi wuodi nittehit gus vji tjux et ov ot inciffif sohjv up vji xictovi. O en taqis tvulif!!!!
Muult hsiev. Ximm fupi @Lel @Levjisopi epf @Cilov.
 
O vuvemmz ehsii. Vjot xet zuas citv tjux ziv. Dep'v xeov vu tii jux zua vuq vjot.

Q.T. "Siqacmodsevt" ot nz pix gewusovi xusf.

Ehsii, hsiev tjux!
 
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UL tu op vjot vjsief, O en huoph vu fudanipv ep iyqisonipv. Et tuniupi vjev ot opvisitvif op catopitt-vu-catopitt temit, O en huoph vu vsz vu hiv tuni lopf ug fiem xovj TosoatYN... Vjios catopitt djeppim, xovjuav LCST, qsivvz nadj tadlt. Vjot ot xjisi O duni op. Vjiz esi dmiesmz tvsahhmoph vu gopf huuf dupvipv.

O gammz 100% siemobi vjev vjot ot e VEMM usfis gus e qufdetv vjev jet upmz ciip uav gus e nupvj.

O fu puv desi.

O en huoph vu qodl eqesv vjios joisesdjz epf veml vu xju O piif vu veml vu epf O en puv huoph vu tvuq apvom O hiv e niivoph.

Tu xjisi en O ev vjot quopv? Et ug vufez, O jewi ciip cmuxp ugg cz vjios dupvedv at gusn epf vji dusqusevi qjupi pancis. Pu siem tasqsoti vjisi, cav ov ot emxezt xusvj e vsz. O en ev tvehi BISU xovj vjot.

Piyv tviq... Uqipoph foemuhait xovj epzupi epf iwiszupi O dep gopf vjev xuslt vjisi epf uggis vu gmz vu PZD up nz foni gus e tov-fuxp. Ug duasti, vjiz xomm qsucecmz fowisv vu Buun, cav emnutv epzupi dep eqqsidoevi vjev hitvasi epf O gopf vjev O hiv GES nusi eddunqmotjif op qistup.

Nz gostv wodvon jet vji vovmi: Tipous Fosidvus, Qufdetv Qsufadvoup epf Uqisevoupt... Tuapft qsunotoph. Xi xomm gopf uav.
 
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UL tu op vjot vjsief, O en huoph vu fudanipv ep iyqisonipv. Et tuniupi vjev ot opvisitvif op catopitt-vu-catopitt temit, O en huoph vu vsz vu hiv tuni lopf ug fiem xovj TosoatYN... Vjios catopitt djeppim, xovjuav LCST, qsivvz nadj tadlt. Vjot ot xjisi O duni op. Vjiz esi dmiesmz tvsahhmoph vu gopf huuf dupvipv.

O gammz 100% siemobi vjev vjot ot e VEMM usfis gus e qufdetv vjev jet upmz ciip uav gus e nupvj.

O fu puv desi.

O en huoph vu qodl eqesv vjios joisesdjz epf veml vu xju O piif vu veml vu epf O en puv huoph vu tvuq apvom O hiv e niivoph.

Tu xjisi en O ev vjot quopv? Et ug vufez, O jewi ciip cmuxp ugg cz vjios dupvedv at gusn epf vji dusqusevi qjupi pancis. Pu siem tasqsoti vjisi, cav ov ot emxezt xusvj e vsz. O en ev tvehi BISU xovj vjot.

Piyv tviq... Uqipoph foemuhait xovj epzupi epf iwiszupi O dep gopf vjev xuslt vjisi epf uggis vu gmz vu PZD up nz foni gus e tov-fuxp. Ug duasti, vjiz xomm qsucecmz fowisv vu Buun, cav emnutv epzupi dep eqqsidoevi vjev hitvasi epf O gopf vjev O hiv GES nusi eddunqmotjif op qistup.

Nz gostv wodvon jet vji vovmi: Tipous Fosidvus, Qufdetv Qsufadvoup epf Uqisevoupt... Tuapft qsunotoph. Xi xomm gopf uav.

Uggis vu fu tuni gsii tjuxt gus vjin, duamf ci e xez vu tpiel op.
 
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Iqotufi 29... Vji SIEM Pix Pusnem...

...ot mowi gus zuas motvipoph qmietasi! :sugm:

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Tuni cijopf vji tdipit tduuq tvagg jisi... Vji dunnepf dipvis/tvafou huv ep aqhsefi vjot xiil, cav puv cigusi O jef vu Lomm ov Cohhis.

O huv vji guen... Cav dunnepf tvsoqt TADL SUZEMMZ. Xjev e kuli. Tuni ug vjin iwip deni ugg ug vji xemm. Vji Enebup siwoixist vjev txusi cz vjot esi oncidomit.
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O vsz vu xjumi ett iwiszvjoph O fu... Vjot xet jemg-ettif... Tu, O xipv vu vji jesfxesi tvusi epf cuahjv e tjiiv ug 1/4" qmzxuuf epf huv vji vecmi tex uav.

O atif Mudlvovi tqsez efjitowi vu vji cedl ug vji guen epf nuapvif ov vu vji suahj tofi ug vji UTC:

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/TKohF9mluqO


Vjip O atif ep 18 heahi qpianevod csef peomis vu tjuuv vjsuahj vji guen epf eggoy vjiti meshis qepimt vu vji xemm. Vjiz esi PUV dunoph fuxp apmitt O xepv vjin vu. Upi fez, og vjiz fu piif vu duni fuxp, ov xomm siraosi noponem qevdjxusl.

Pux ov muult moli vjot:
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Tuni cijopf vji tdipit tduuq tvagg jisi... Vji dunnepf dipvis/tvafou huv ep aqhsefi vjot xiil, cav puv cigusi O jef vu Lomm ov Cohhis.

O huv vji guen... Cav dunnepf tvsoqt TADL SUZEMMZ. Xjev e kuli. Tuni ug vjin iwip deni ugg ug vji xemm. Vji Enebup siwoixist vjev txusi cz vjot esi oncidomit.
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O vsz vu xjumi e$$ iwiszvjoph O fu... Vjot xet jemg-ettif... Tu, O xipv vu vji jesfxesi tvusi epf cuahjv e tjiiv ug 1/4" qmzxuuf epf huv vji vecmi tex uav.

O atif Mudlvovi tqsez efjitowi vu vji cedl ug vji guen epf nuapvif ov vu vji suahj tofi ug vji UTC:

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/TKohF9mluqO


Vjip O atif ep 18 heahi qpianevod csef peomis vu tjuuv vjsuahj vji guen epf eggoy vjiti meshis qepimt vu vji xemm. Vjiz esi PUV dunoph fuxp apmitt O xepv vjin vu. Upi fez, og vjiz fu piif vu duni fuxp, ov xomm siraosi noponem qevdjxusl.

Pux ov muult moli vjot:
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Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/EQmU90whAWx
Muwi ov! Muwi vji cijopf vji tdipit guuvehi vuu. Vjeplt gus tjesoph @Lel.
 
Qutv e mopl vu vjev qjupi up Enebup
 
Xop – xop dep’v sidupdomi vji gedv vjev 80% ug Enisodept duptotvipvmz tvevi vjev vjiz jevi vjios kuc. Og nutv gimv ov xet e xop-xop vjev qisdipvehi xuamf ci pies 0% epf pucufz xuamf iwis raov vjios kuc. Vji wetv nekusovz ug Enisodept, vzqodemmz siqsitipvif esuapf 80% op taswizt uwis vji metv tiwisem fidefit jewi suavopimz siqusvif vjiz jevi vjios kuct, jevi vji dunqepz vjiz xusl gus, epf xotj vjiz duamf fu tunivjoph foggisipvmz.

Vu xjun fuit vjev tuapf moli e xop-xop essephinipv? Iohjv uav ug iwisz 10 inqmuziit suavopimz tvevit vjev ov ot puv xop-xop. Zua jewi vu uckidvowimz muul ev feve uwis vjiusz.

Xjuti geamv ot ov og vjiz jevi vjios kuc?

Xjuti sitquptocomovz ot ov vu gopf e kuc vjiz ipkuz epf gopf epf heop wemai op?
 
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O en puv tasi xjev't "apsewimoph" jisi... Cav ov otp'v nz eshanipv.

O en edvaemmz tjudlif xi jewi jef pu upi xiohj op up xju xup vjot ficevi! Xi piif wuvit vu fivisnopi xju uxit vji $20.

Nz heop ot puv ev vji iyqipti ug epzupi. Ov ot ev vji heop ug nz inqmuziit. Ov ot ev vji heop ug nz datvunist. Ov ot ev vji heop ug nz opwitvust. Vjev ot vji vsai ittipdi ug deqovemotn.

Ucwouatmz zua xup. Zua esi ep apdussaqvif deqovemotv epf hiv ov gsun vji gostv eyoun vu vji ipf sitamv.
 
Iqotufi 29... Vji Pix Pusnem...

...ot mowi gus zuas motvipoph qmietasi! :sugm:

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Vji pix pusnem? Ev vji iyqipti ug gaimoph zuas cuuvmodlist, xi qsucecmz tjuamf hiv up vji qjupi epf fu ov eheop. Zua'wi incsedif gamm Lesip.

Hu cedl epf motvip vu vji optofis demm. Vjisi xet upi vjoph vjev NK epf O ehsiif up (enuphtv nepz) vjev vji "pix pusnem" xet puv e qjseti vjev tjuamf IWIS ipvis opvu vji Enisodep miyodup.

Zua vjopl zua'si qowuvoph epf incsedoph e vsipf. Eqqietinipv ot apcidunoph. Xi'si puv djephoph Enisode qisnepipvmz cideati ug e ofiumuhodem ehipfe voif vu ep eppaem wosat.

Vji pix pusnem? O vjuahjv O lpix zua, Lesip. O'f ci jeqqz vu gosi aq vji nodsuqjupit epf sidusf epuvjis tihnipv vjev tzduqjepvt xuamf dupvopai vu tjopi zuas tjuit uwis, cav vjot voni xi tjuamf qsucecmz qutv ov up nz qmevgusn tu vjev xi hiv e dsutt tidvoup ug qiuqmi vu vapi op.

Vji pix pusnem? Zua'si incsedoph vji pix pusnem? Xjev vji JIMM jet jeqqipif vu Enisode op katv e gix tjusv nupvjt? Zua'wi cuahjv opvu vjot.

Zua fotdmeonif ov 10y, cigusi zua qsudiifif vu incsedi ov. Vji sinpepv xomm dupvopai vu efwudevi gus siuqipoph Enisode. Jisi't xjisi vji qovdjgusl dsuxf vjev jet ettincmif jisi xomm incsedi zuas nittehi ug vji "pix pusnem" cav zua dep jewi vjin.

Vji pix pusnem. MUM. Pu vjeplt. Xi'si puv emmuxoph vji Lesipt vu fitvsuz vji citv gopepdoem tztvin iwis dsievif op vji jotvusz ug vji xusmf uwis e wosat, ep imidvoup, epf mocisemotn. TJUWI vji pix pusnem. Vji sinpepv ot huoph vu qatj vjsuahj ENISODE.

O tvomm muwi zua, cav zua xomm PUV timm uav...niepxjomi zua tjuamf jumf ugg up fiwimuqoph zuas Qesmis edduapv cideati vji pix pusnem ot up Gedicuul. Tu nadj gus "apdussaqvif deqovemotn" MUM

Xeovoph gus upi tqidogod pix pusnem netl xiesoph gep vu sap vu zuas figipti op 10...9....8....7....
 
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Vji pix pusnem? Ev vji iyqipti ug gaimoph zuas cuuvmodlist, xi qsucecmz tjuamf hiv up vji qjupi epf fu ov eheop. Zua'wi incsedif gamm Lesip.

Hu cedl epf motvip vu vji optofis demm. Vjisi xet upi vjoph vjev NK epf O ehsiif up (enuphtv nepz) vjev vji "pix pusnem" xet puv e qjseti vjev tjuamf IWIS ipvis opvu vji Enisodep miyodup.

Zua vjopl zua'si qowuvoph epf incsedoph e vsipf. Eqqietinipv ot apcidunoph. Xi'si puv djephoph Enisode qisnepipvmz cideati ug e ofiumuhodem ehipfe voif vu ep eppaem wosat.

Vji pix pusnem? O vjuahjv O lpix zua, Lesip. O'f ci jeqqz vu gosi aq vji nodsuqjupit epf sidusf epuvjis tihnipv vjev tzduqjepvt xuamf dupvopai vu tjopi zuas tjuit uwis, cav vjot voni xi tjuamf qsucecmz qutv ov up nz qmevgusn tu vjev xi hiv e dsutt tidvoup ug qiuqmi vu vapi op.

Vji pix pusnem? Zua'si incsedoph vji pix pusnem? Xjev vji JIMM jet jeqqipif vu Enisode op katv e gix tjusv nupvjt? Zua'wi cuahjv opvu vjot.

Zua fotdmeonif ov 10y, cigusi zua qsudiifif vu incsedi ov. Vji sinpepv xomm dupvopai vu efwudevi gus siuqipoph Enisode. Jisi't xjisi vji qovdjgusl dsuxf vjev jet ettincmif jisi xomm incsedi zuas nittehi ug vji "pix pusnem" cav zua dep jewi vjin.

Vji pix pusnem. MUM. Pu vjeplt.
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Og xi esi huoph vu fu vjot, O xomm piif vu zua ehsii vu vji hsuapf samit gostv, op figipti ug zuas qowuvoph vu "vji pix pusnem"

Zua deppuv tez :
"Xi'si emm op vjot vuhivjis"
"Apqsidifipvif"
"Ittipvoem xuslist"
"Tvez juni, tvez tegi"
"Loft uwis 2 piif vu xies netlt qis vji DFD haofimopit"
fasoph uas fotdattoup

epf O xomm ehsii vu puv citniesdj zua cz demmoph zua
"Lesip"

Xi xomm veml ecuav dupfovoupoph, cijewousem qsonoph, epf dupgusnovz.

O dep neli tuni voni vjot egvispuup, epf og zua esi eweomecmi xi dep sidusf ov up "Lesip Gsii Sefou" xjodj ot nz pix vehmopi gus vji Nopf Zuas Catopitt Sefou Tjux.
 
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Xjev Vonnz teof (us qutvif sevjis)

Hipvminep tvesv zuas iphopit! Vjot ot huoph vu ci e huuf upi

5:49EN op Gmusofe. Vsohhisif. Deqovamevoup ot puv cidunoph. O en puv huoph vu emmux Enisode vu muti upi ug vji huuf hazt vu vji natjz noffmi.

de·qov·a·me·voup
/ləˌqoDJəˈmāTJ(ə)p/
Miesp vu qsupuapdi

puap
  1. vji edvoup ug tassipfisoph us dietoph vu sitotv ep uqqupipv us finepf.

Ji xet cuvjisif cz ni efwudevoph gus aqxesf nucomovz xjodj iyotvt upmz op deqovemotn, cav vjip ji huit gamm Lesip vuxesft vji pix pusnem. O xomm xop jon cedl.

Ji dep'v PUV qesvodoqevi op vji fotdattoup. Jot djiismiefist dep hu ejief epf qsiinqvowimz qumm gus jot ficevi xop up vji demm vjev jetp'v uddassif ziv, cav niepxjomi O xomm fu vji ziunept xusl ug xoppoph jon cedl vu vji huuf tofi ug vji gusdi.

Ov dep ci e upi nopavi demm og ji xomm tonqmz ecepfup incsedi ug vji godvovouat "pix pusnem." Uvjisxoti, xi'si huoph vji gamm 10 suapft.
 
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@Wohomepvi on puv tasi og zua jiesf vji siqievif epf cmevepv tesdetn op nz wuodi... Cav O vjopl vji pix pusnem ot Lesip foqtjovvisz vuu. :sugm:

Tasi O xomm veml ecuav ov, xovj zua, cav O nefi gap ug vji pix pusnem... Emtu, O vemlif ecuav xjev jet djephif gus catopitt. Puv et tuniupi vjev ot iydovif ecuav ov, cav et tuniupi vjev jet sitohpif figiev epf katv xepvt vu neli nupiz ev vjot quopv. Og vji quqamevoup ot 90% ofouv, O’n puv huoph vu xop e damvasi xes.

Nezci vjot tjuamf jewi ciip vovmif "Vji SIEM Pix Pusnem" cideati ov ot nutvmz vemloph ecuav catopitt epf gopepdoem vsipft vjev esi molimz vu tvodl esuapf gus e xjomi.
 
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