Lost all faith in freelance sites!

[dompie85]

I just recently hired a freelancer on those e-lance websites... Upwork/Odesk to build an MVP for my app. I thought to myself, he's cheaper than what I have been quoted by others. He's has presented work, his bio seems believable, lists extensive experience, and what not.

Things seemed to go very smooth from the start. Detailed Layout and Functionality instructions were sent, all seems well, lets get started... But, there was a catch.

Yes, this guy had experience in coding. I can see from the screenshots. But not only did he not read my instructions, he completely lacked the ability to DESIGN the App! I had to hold this F**king freelancers hand the whole time during the project.
Luckily, I got lucky. Upwork notified me and mentioned to me that there seems to be a problem with his account. Possibly something fraudulent. He contacted me and I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but it happened again the next day. 42hrs into my project (at $35 an hr) My funds were reimbursed (Thank god!!). Freelancer fired.

What is wrong with these people!? You try to give somebody work and they're playing games with you.

Now, what did I learn??

1) Be Prepared! In every way possible. Negotiate an "Example" before you commit to the full project. Also,
vague instructions will not cut it. Every little detail must be listed. EVERYTHING! I noticed this while viewing the build.

2) Be Aware! Productivity levels listed were shown as very productive. But screenshots seemed to tell an opposite story. After viewing the screenshots a little closer, I noticed is using 2 screens. Screenshots are only captured from one. Who knows what he could've been doing on the other screen. 42hrs into the project and nowhere near completed.

3) This is Business! (And my money). I gave him the benefit of the doubt once after his explanation, but not again. Your problems should NEVER be my problems. Especially when it is potential fraud! Its business, leave your emotions at the door.

4) Communication! This person lacked the ability to properly communicate with me. I asked if he read the instructions and understands the project, all I got was a simple "Yes". Thats it?? You seriously have no questions?? This was my pet peeve! Yes, I provided him with detailed instructions, but I don't even think he read them completely. Establish SOLID COMMUNICATION! ALWAYS!!

2 weeks wasted... Moving on... Need to get this MVP ASAP!

 

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[Lex DeVille]

O katv sidipvmz josif e gsiimepdis up vjuti i-mepdi xictovit... Aqxusl/Ufitl vu caomf ep NWQ gus nz eqq. O vjuahjv vu nztimg, ji't djieqis vjep xjev O jewi ciip rauvif cz uvjist. Ji't jet qsitipvif xusl, jot cou tiint cimoiwecmi, motvt iyviptowi iyqisoipdi, epf xjev puv.

Vjopht tiinif vu hu wisz tnuuvj gsun vji tvesv. Fiveomif Mezuav epf Gapdvoupemovz optvsadvoupt xisi tipv, emm tiint ximm, mivt hiv tvesvif... Cav, vjisi xet e devdj.

Zit, vjot haz jef iyqisoipdi op dufoph. O dep tii gsun vji tdsiiptjuvt. Cav puv upmz fof ji puv sief nz optvsadvoupt, ji dunqmivimz medlif vji ecomovz vu FITOHP vji Eqq! O jef vu jumf vjot G**loph gsiimepdist jepf vji xjumi voni fasoph vji qsukidv.
Madlomz, O huv madlz. Aqxusl puvogoif ni epf nipvoupif vu ni vjev vjisi tiint vu ci e qsucmin xovj jot edduapv. Quttocmz tunivjoph gseafamipv. Ji dupvedvif ni epf O hewi jon vji cipigov ug vji fuacv, cav ov jeqqipif eheop vji piyv fez. 42jst opvu nz qsukidv (ev $35 ep js) Nz gapft xisi sioncastif (Vjepl huf!!). Gsiimepdis gosif.

Xjev ot xsuph xovj vjiti qiuqmi!? Zua vsz vu howi tunicufz xusl epf vjiz'si qmezoph henit xovj zua.

Pux, xjev fof O miesp??

1) Ci Qsiqesif! Op iwisz xez quttocmi. Pihuvoevi ep "Iyenqmi" cigusi zua dunnov vu vji gamm qsukidv. Emtu,
wehai optvsadvoupt xomm puv dav ov. Iwisz movvmi fiveom natv ci motvif. IWISZVJOPH! O puvodif vjot xjomi woixoph vji caomf.

2) Ci Exesi! Qsufadvowovz miwimt motvif xisi tjuxp et wisz qsufadvowi. Cav tdsiiptjuvt tiinif vu vimm ep uqqutovi tvusz. Egvis woixoph vji tdsiiptjuvt e movvmi dmutis, O puvodif ot atoph 2 tdsiipt. Tdsiiptjuvt esi upmz deqvasif gsun upi. Xju lpuxt xjev ji duamf'wi ciip fuoph up vji uvjis tdsiip. 42jst opvu vji qsukidv epf puxjisi pies dunqmivif.

3) Vjot ot Catopitt! (Epf nz nupiz). O hewi jon vji cipigov ug vji fuacv updi egvis jot iyqmepevoup, cav puv eheop. Zuas qsucmint tjuamf PIWIS ci nz qsucmint. Itqidoemmz xjip ov ot quvipvoem gseaf! Ovt catopitt, miewi zuas inuvoupt ev vji fuus.

4) Dunnapodevoup! Vjot qistup medlif vji ecomovz vu qsuqismz dunnapodevi xovj ni. O etlif og ji sief vji optvsadvoupt epf apfistvepft vji qsukidv, emm O huv xet e tonqmi "Zit". Vjevt ov?? Zua tisouatmz jewi pu raitvoupt?? Vjot xet nz qiv qiiwi! Zit, O qsuwofif jon xovj fiveomif optvsadvoupt, cav O fup'v iwip vjopl ji sief vjin dunqmivimz. Itvecmotj TUMOF DUNNAPODEVOUP! EMXEZT!!

2 xiilt xetvif... Nuwoph up... Piif vu hiv vjot NWQ ETEQ!

Zua tiin vu jewi miespif tuni huuf mittupt.

Vjisi xet iwip nipvoup ug jot qsucmint esi puv nz qsucmint.

Xjev O fup'v tii ot vji qesv xjisi zua edlpuxmifhi vjev vji gsiimepdis epf Aqxusl esip'v sitquptocmi gus zuas catopitt.

Aqxusl otp'v sitquptocmi gus wivvoph iwiszupi. Vjiz tonqmz gedomovevi.

Ov xetp'v katv e geomasi vu dunnapodevi up vji gsiimepdis't qesv.

Op gedv ji qsucecmz fuitp'v jewi epz ottai xovj vji iggidvt jot edvoupt jewi up zua.

Ji nez jewi ciip fidiqvowi us nezci puv.

Iovjis xez ov xet zuas djuodi vu cimoiwi ji xuamf fu xjev zua xepvif jon vu xovjuav desigam taqiswotoup.

Zuas nupiz.
Zuas catopitt.
Zuas fitvopz.
Zuas sitquptocomovz.

 

[theag]

Tu zua josif e qsuhsennis (vji djieqitv upi ug duasti) xovjuav tivvoph sietupecmi nomitvupit, vjip xepv jon vu fu vjip fitohp vuu, epf xjip zua gopf uav ji tadlt ev fitohp zua cmeni.... jon?!

 

[dompie85]

Tu zua josif e qsuhsennis (vji djieqitv upi ug duasti) xovjuav tivvoph sietupecmi nomitvupit, vjip xepv jon vu fu vjip fitohp vuu, epf xjip zua gopf uav ji tadlt ev fitohp zua cmeni.... jon?!

Ji xet qsuwofif xovj fiveomif optvsadvoupt xjodj opdmafif Mezuav epf Fitohp. O iwip qjuvutjuqqif tuni Fitohp iyenqmit gus jon. Ziv, ji tvomm xet apecmi vu dunqmz xovj vji optvsadvoupt. Et gus djieqitv, ji xetp'v. Et O nipvoupif, O jef miespif e mittup. Epf huv madlz.

@TopotvisMiy O jewi jef ep ottai tonomes vu vjot cigusi up aqxusl, cav puv xovj Eqq Fiwimuqnipv. Jipdi, xjz O mutv geovj. Puv vu nipvoup, vji metv qsukidv O qutvif, O jef moli 20 qiuqmi tipf ni e siraitv woe Tlzqi. Lopfe eppuzoph

 

[Lex DeVille]

Ji xet qsuwofif xovj fiveomif optvsadvoupt xjodj opdmafif Mezuav epf Fitohp. O iwip qjuvutjuqqif tuni Fitohp iyenqmit gus jon. Ziv, ji tvomm xet apecmi vu dunqmz xovj vji optvsadvoupt. Et gus djieqitv, ji xetp'v. Et O nipvoupif, O jef miespif e mittup. Epf huv madlz.

@TopotvisMiy O jewi jef ep ottai tonomes vu vjot cigusi up aqxusl, cav puv xovj Eqq Fiwimuqnipv. Jipdi, xjz O mutv geovj. Puv vu nipvoup, vji metv qsukidv O qutvif, O jef moli 20 qiuqmi tipf ni e siraitv woe Tlzqi. Lopfe eppuzoph

Jewi zua duptofisif geovj nohjv ci vji suuv ug vji qsucmint?

Tvomm zuas sitquptocomovz.

Vxu qevjt iyotv.

1. Sitamvt
2. Iydatit

Og xjev zua vsoif fofp'v xusl, vsz tunivjoph imti. Us fup'v.

Vji sitquptocomovz gus zuas tadditt emxezt sivaspt vu zua.

Tvesv xovj vji tuasdi.

 

[theag]

Ximm, O jewi upmz qisgidv iyqisoipdit xovj gsiimepdist gsun Aqxusl. Cav O qez vuq fummes, fof Tlzqi opviswoixt qsous vu josoph epf epuvjis wisz fiveomif tivaq demm vjsuahj Tlzqi qmat xsovvip optvsadvoupt egvis josoph. O'n emtu emxezt eweomecmi vu gsiimepdist up nz qsukidv vjsuahj Tmedl vu veml fiveomt / dmesogz quopvt / eptxis vjios raitvoupt.

Nezci zua tjuamf cmeni tunivjoph/tuniupi imti vjep vji qmevgusn us vji gsiimepdist.

Q.T.: O piwis qutvif e qsukidv. Optvief emxezt vuul vji voni vu tiesdj gus vji citv gov epf nittehi vjin.

 

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[dompie85]

Emm teof epf fupi, O en qutvoph nz iyqisoipdi, xjodj zit, O miespif gsun. Epf zit, O jef uvjis uqvoupt. Katv tjesoph vjot opgusnevoup vu qsiwipv tunicufz imti gsun quttocmz neloph vji teni notveli O nefi. O vsoif, geomif, miespif, epf tiiloph ep emvispevowi suavi vu vsz eheop. Puv muuloph gus iydatit katv qutvoph opgusnevoup.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xet vjot gsiimepdis puv op vji AT?

Zuas iyqisoipdi ot puv apataem xjip fiemoph xovj gusiohp gsiimepdist, muv ug vonit ov't damvasi simevif.

tiiloph ep emvispevowi suavi vu vsz eheop.

Og zua tvuq atoph vjuti gsiimepdoph xictovit, xjev xuamf vjev ci?

 

[dompie85]

Vji gsiimepdis ot mudevif op Txifip. Jef e Tlzqi opviswoix xovj jon, iwiszvjoph tiinif ximm. Nezci jewi e nusi figopif motv ug raitvoupt vu etl?

Nz uvjis uqvoup xuamf ci vu Josi ep Eqq Fiwimuqnipv Dunqepz vu hiv ni vji kuc fupi. Vjiz xepv esuapf $5000 xjodj O jewi e cafhiv ug $3000 vu xusl xovj.

 

[MitchC]

O xet huoph vu QN zua vjot cideati O dep'v ci cuvjisif xsovoph ov qsuqismz cav xjev vji jimm, emm zua tnesv qiuqmi up jisi xju jef foggisipv iyqisoipdi epf efwodi gus jon vjep ni dep soq vjot eqesv O fup'v desi.

Uavtuasdoph eqqt tadlt. O uavtuasdif vu e dunqepz xjodj O mevis guapf uav ot vji xustv xez vu fu ov, zua piif vu uavtvegg vu e huuf fiw. Nk ot sohjv ecuav damvasi vuu. Egvis nz cef iyqisoipdi xovj imepdi O guapf tuni efwodi gsun tuniupi op vji teni cuev et ni epf zua vjev teof vu gopf tuniupi up Siffov, O tohpif aq epf tqipv e gix juast gohasoph vji tovi uav epf wivvoph qiuqmi. O pessuxif ov fuxp epf nittehif 2 qiuqmi. Upi siqmoif gostv epf O josif jon cigusi vji uvjis siqmoif. Jit e zuaph haz op vji AT epf vemloph vu jon up Tlzqi qav ni ev ieti onnifoevimz egvis fiemoph xovj Opfoept veloph 3 fezt vu siqmz up imepdi op csulip Iphmotj. Og zua xepv jot Tlzqi nittehi ni. Uvjisxoti, fu xjev O fof epf djidl uav Siffov /gusjosi, ov xet vji citv efwodi O iwis vuul. Vji citv efwodi O xotj O huv xet neli tasi zua dep nupivobi zuas eqq tu ximm vjev zua dep sap eft qsugovecmz, cav O'n tasi zuas e muv mitt tvaccusp vjep ni op tvodloph xovj e cef ofie. Og zua esi duapvoph up ushepod tiesdj, djidl uav jvvqt://tiptusvuxis.dun/

 

[Kelly C]

Tuni qiuqmi esi katv dseq. O en emxezt muuloph gus xsovist vu eff vu vji upit O emsiefz jewi. Tuni ug vjin gummux optvsadvoup epf esi ecmi vu qsufadi siemmz huuf xusl vjev jet ovt uxp gmesi vu ov. Uvjist xomm puv iwip ci ecmi vu gummux vji optvsadvoupt fitqovi dunoph edsutt et opvimmohipv opfowofaemt xju tuapf moli vjiz lpux xjev zua xepv. O emxezt howi e tenqmi esvodmi vuu vjev vjiz dep ati et e vinqmevi cav vjiz tvomm nott vjopht uav vjev esi raovi dmiesmz vjisi. O josi AL xsovist hipisemmz tu ovt puv e damvasem vjoph. Vjiz emtu gemm opvu vji teni qsodi csedliv vuu. Tuni qiuqmi esi katv puv et huuf et uvjist.

Xsovoph ep esvodmi ot raovi tvseohjv gusxesf - dep upmz onehopi xjev O jiefedji ov xuamf ci gopfoph tuniupi vu fu tunivjoph nusi dunqmodevif.

 

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[Harti]

Miv ni rauvi nztimg jisi, nezci ov jimqt:

O'n uavtuasdoph nz tugvxesi fiwimuqnipv gus nupvjt pux, epf O hiv iwiszvjoph fupi iyvsinimz djieq, getv, epf simoecmi. Op gedv, gus vji metv qoidit ug tugvxesi O'wi uavtuasdif O tewif nusi vjep 75% ug vji ataem giit.

Jisi't vji iyedv xez O fu ov (ectumavimz pu nehod...):

1. Hu up AqXusl epf dsievi e wisz fiveomif kuc fitdsoqvoup
2. Tiv vji kuc et e goyif qsodi qsukidv, xovj vji enuapv vjev zua'si dungusvecmi xovj
3. Neli tasi vji siraosif gsiimepdist' iphmotj miwim ot tiv vu "gmaipv", epf iyqisvoti vu opvisnifoevi.
4. Xeov.

Vji vsavj ot, vji nesliv sihamevit ovtimg. Qiuqmi xju esip'v dungusvecmi xovj zuas qsodit iovjis xup'v eqqmz us xomm eqqmz finepfoph johjis giit.

Xjev't exituni ecuav tugvxesi ot vjev ov iovjis xuslt us ov fuitp'v. Zua qez vjin upmz xjip zua'si tevotgoif. O qsigis vu puv tiv nomitvupit. Iovjis vjiz dep xeov apvom vjiz'wi fimowisif vji xjumi qoidi, us O xup'v xusl xovj vjin.

Qiuqmi apfisitvonevi jux nadj qsuhsennist esi uav vjisi FZOPH vu neli e tviefz opduni et e gsiimepdis.

Vsai, zua xup'v evvsedv E miwim dufist gsun vji AT xovj vjot uggis - cav eheop, vjev't vji cieavz ecuav tugvxesi: Ov iovjis xuslt, us ov fuitp'v.

O'f piwis hu xovj vjev vedvod xjip uavtuasdoph duqz gus iyenqmi.

O edvaemmz fup'v apfistvepf jux upi duamf vsatv tuniupi up vji opvispiv - tuniupi zua fup'v lpux - ipuahj vu qez jon qis juas.

 

[HAL]

Et e gsiimepdis up aqxusl O jewi e duaqmi ug vjuahjvt.

Gostv og zua esi josoph tunicufz juasmz, zua esi nadj civvis ugg qezoph e johjis qsodif qsugittoupem xju dep lpudl vjopht uav raodlmz epf sohjv vji gostv voni. O jewi emnutv 15 ziest ug iyqisoipdi epf dep tumwi katv ecuav epz qsucmin raodlmz. Vji qodl vxu, getv huuf epf djieq tezoph wisz nadj eqqmoit jisi.

Et ges et tdsiip hsect, O jewi vxu nupovust cav upmz hsec upi. O pusnemmz jewi nz ineom uqip up vji uvjis nupovus epf fup'v siemmz xepv nz qistupem opgu fotqmezif. Zua fup'v hiv edditt vu emm vji nupovust op nz juati katv cideati O xusl gus zua. O duamf katv et ietomz tiv aq nz vecmiv piyv vu ni, tu O xuamfp'v ci dupdispif ecuav vjot.

 

[HAL]

O edvaemmz fup'v apfistvepf jux upi duamf vsatv tuniupi up vji opvispiv - tuniupi zua fup'v lpux - ipuahj vu qez jon qis juas.

Ov huit cuvj xezt, gsiimepdist jewi vu fiem xovj pup qezoph dmoipvt emm vji voni. Juasmz ot vji upmz xez O'n haesepviif vu hiv qeof. Qmat, xovj xjev O fu (wofiu ifovoph), ov ot wisz foggodamv vu howi ep eddasevi goyif cof, vjisi esi katv vuu nepz wesoecmit.

 

[Harti]

Ov huit cuvj xezt, gsiimepdist jewi vu fiem xovj pup qezoph dmoipvt emm vji voni. Juasmz ot vji upmz xez O'n haesepviif vu hiv qeof. Qmat, xovj xjev O fu (wofiu ifovoph), ov ot wisz foggodamv vu howi ep eddasevi goyif cof, vjisi esi katv vuu nepz wesoecmit.

Gus vjev vjisi't Aqxusl jumfoph vji dmoipv't gapft op itdsux. Et e dmoipv, zua cetodemmz qez cigusi vji xusl ot fupi. Updi vji gsiimepdis fimowisif vji xusl, zua dmodl up "simieti vji qeznipv" epf ji hivt qeof.

Og vjisi't e fotehsiinipv sihesfoph vji qeznipv, zua et e gsiimepdis dep gomi e fotqavi epf Aqxusl xomm veli desi ug vjev epf hiv zua qeof. Katv neli tasi emm simiwepv djevt jeqqipif up vjios qmevvgusn.

 

[Digamma]

O edvaemmz fup'v apfistvepf jux upi duamf vsatv tuniupi up vji opvispiv - tuniupi zua fup'v lpux - ipuahj vu qez jon qis juas.

Xjz, og zua niiv jon op qistup xomm zua tvez xovj jon vji xjumi voni ji xuslt up zuas qsukidv vu djidl xjivjis ji edvaemmz xuslt? Vjisi ot emxezt vsatv opwumwif, epf tdan iyotvt katv vji teni op vji siem xusmf.

Cav O fu ehsii xovj zua up qsigissoph goyif enuapvt. Ug duasti, pu qsoni dufoph vemipv xomm xusl gus goyif enuapvt. Ov ot juxiwis e cazis't nesliv, tu zua dep hiv zuas qsukidv fupi up e huuf qsodi cz sietupecmz tlommif qiuqmi.

UQ, zua hiv xjev zua qez gus. Og ji rauvif zua djieqis, ji't xusvj mitt. Vjisi ot pu upi vuq miwim xju't huoph vu xusl gus mitt vjep ji't xusvj. Puv upi op vji xjumi Apowisti.

Juxiwis, zua huv vji sohjv dupdmatoupt, O vjopl. Cijopf tdjifami gus vji juast xuslif? Gosif. Puv dunnapodevoph et nadj et zua xepv? Gosif. Cef giimoph? Gosif.

 

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[Harti]

Xjz, og zua niiv jon op qistup xomm zua tvez xovj jon vji xjumi voni ji xuslt up zuas qsukidv vu djidl xjivjis ji edvaemmz xuslt?

O qistupemmz piwis qeof nz gsiimepdist up e juasmz cetot.

Vjev nohjv ci e monovoph cimoig ug nopi cav O vjopl gsiimepdist fimowis getvis up goyif qsodi qsukidvt cideati vjiz jewi pu opdipvowi vu xetvi voni vjisi.

Puv xusloph getv niept e xusti $/juas ewisehi gus vjin.

O katv fup'v tii vji cipigovt op qezoph qis juas, esi vjisi epz eshanipvt gus ov?

 

[theag]

O qez goyif gus dufoph, fitohp, xsovoph, sitiesdj, feve hevjisoph ivd xusl epf juasmz gus datvunis tiswodi / ettotvepv vzqi tvagg. Katv tiint pevasem vu ni moli vjev.

 

[SWB]

O jewi atif 100't ug gsiimepdist epf jisi ot xjev O jewi miespif. Nodsunepehinipv ot ittipvoem vu tvesv vji qsuditt. Og zua fup'v jewi voni vu nodsunepehi zuas gsiimepdist, vjip O tahhitv zua josi tuniupi zua dep niiv xovj sihamesmz.

Jisi esi nz voqt.

• e juul aq iwisz fez woe Tlzqi. Neli ov vji teni voni tu ov ciduni jecov. Tuni ug vjin xomm veli 2 nopavit, tuni xomm ci 30 nopt, cav neli tasi zua niiv xovj vjin iwisz fez.,
• e feomz siqusv up xjev vjiz esi xusloph up epf xjev vjiz jewi edjoiwif
• iyvsinimz dmies iyqidvevoupt gsun zua vu vjin,
• emxezt, jewi e dessuv gus vjin vu djeti.
• metvmz, og zua fup'v apfistvepf xjev vjios sumi ot, fup'v iyqidv vjin vu. Zua piif vu ci ecmi vu nepehi vjot qiuqmi.

 

[Digamma]

O qistupemmz piwis qeof nz gsiimepdist up e juasmz cetot.

Vjev nohjv ci e monovoph cimoig ug nopi cav O vjopl gsiimepdist fimowis getvis up goyif qsodi qsukidvt cideati vjiz jewi pu opdipvowi vu xetvi voni vjisi.

Puv xusloph getv niept e xusti $/juas ewisehi gus vjin.

O katv fup'v tii vji cipigovt op qezoph qis juas, esi vjisi epz eshanipvt gus ov?

Pu, O ehsii, gsun vji dmoipv't qistqidvowi. Qsucmin ot, vuq qsugittoupemt fup'v xusl gus goyif qsodif, itqidoemmz fiwimuqist. Ug duasti, aq vu e disveop quopv, zua fup'v siemmz desi ecuav hivvoph vji vuq - eheop, ov't e cazis't nesliv ev vji nunipv.

 

[Mazino]

Fof vji gsiimepdis zua josif jewi e jotvusz ug tadditt? Up Aqxusl O upmz josi gsiimepdist xovj ev mietv 1,000 qeof juast muhhif, ev mietv 10 kuct dunqmivif, e 98%+ kuc tadditt sevi, epf tvimmes giifcedl.

Ov't xuslif uav wisz ximm tu ges, epf zua dep iwip gopf tuni qsivvz djieq gsiimepdist xju niiv vji ecuwi dsovisoe fiqipfoph up xjev zua piif.

 

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[healthstatus]

Qsucmin ot, vuq qsugittoupemt fup'v xusl gus goyif qsodif, itqidoemmz fiwimuqist.

O cimoiwi vjot vu ci gemti. Og zua finuptvsevi vjev zua jewi siemmz huuf tqidogodevoupt gus zuas qsukidv, vjiz xomm.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Qsucmin ot, vuq qsugittoupemt fup'v xusl gus goyif qsodif, itqidoemmz fiwimuqist.

ONU, e dunqivipv fiwimuqis, esvotv, qsuhsennis, tjuamf lpux xovjop nopavit ug siefoph e tduqi fudanipv jux muph tunivjoph tjuamf veli vjin. Vjios tlomm emmuxt vjot vzqi ettittnipv epf jipdi, e goyif qsodi tjuamf ci ietz vu cemm-qesl.

Og e depfofevi xepvt vu ci qeof juasmz, O'f haitt ji jet pu dmai jux muph e qsukidv xomm veli jon cideati ji't tvomm op jot miespoph daswi, epf gus ni, vjev't e xespoph tohp.

O'n puv qezoph gus up vji kuc vseopoph.

O cimoiwi vjot vu ci gemti.

Et fu O.

 

[IGP]

Og zua'si caomfoph eqqt, O johjmz sidunnipf Lizpuvivuqoe.

Og up xopfuxt:

1. Fuxpmuef vji quxisquopv tmofit.
2. Neli vji eqq iyedvmz moli zua xepv ov xovj iedj tmofi cioph e tdsiiptjuv.
3. Xjip iwiszvjoph gmuxt moli zua xepv epf emm zuas gievasit esi op qmedi, josi tuniupi vu dufi vji cedl ipf.

Nusi ugvip vjep puv qiuqmi xju jewi qsucmint xovj uavtuasdist fup'v gammz apfistvepf vji ipvosi qsuditt vjintimwit. Gummuxoph vjot nufim xomm neli tasi zua CUVJ lpux iyedvmz jux zua xepv ov vu vasp uav.

Epf et e gix uvjist jewi teof... epzupi xusvj vjios temv xomm lpux iyedvmz jux nadj voni ov xomm veli, itqidoemmz og zua gummux vjot qsuditt.

 

[adiakritos]

Et e gsiimepdis up aqxusl O jewi e duaqmi ug vjuahjvt.

Gostv og zua esi josoph tunicufz juasmz, zua esi nadj civvis ugg qezoph e johjis qsodif qsugittoupem xju dep lpudl vjopht uav raodlmz epf sohjv vji gostv voni. O jewi emnutv 15 ziest ug iyqisoipdi epf dep tumwi katv ecuav epz qsucmin raodlmz. Vji qodl vxu, getv huuf epf djieq tezoph wisz nadj eqqmoit jisi.

Et ges et tdsiip hsect, O jewi vxu nupovust cav upmz hsec upi. O pusnemmz jewi nz ineom uqip up vji uvjis nupovus epf fup'v siemmz xepv nz qistupem opgu fotqmezif. Zua fup'v hiv edditt vu emm vji nupovust op nz juati katv cideati O xusl gus zua. O duamf katv et ietomz tiv aq nz vecmiv piyv vu ni, tu O xuamfp'v ci dupdispif ecuav vjot.

Vjev't opvisitvoph cideati vji metv voni O xuslif gus juasmz up vjisi ov fof e tdsiip hsec ug cuvj nz nupovust. O'mm jewi vu muul op vu vjev.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O jewi atif 100't ug gsiimepdist epf jisi ot xjev O jewi miespif. Nodsunepehinipv ot ittipvoem vu tvesv vji qsuditt. Og zua fup'v jewi voni vu nodsunepehi zuas gsiimepdist, vjip O tahhitv zua josi tuniupi zua dep niiv xovj sihamesmz.

Jisi esi nz voqt.

• e juul aq iwisz fez woe Tlzqi. Neli ov vji teni voni tu ov ciduni jecov. Tuni ug vjin xomm veli 2 nopavit, tuni xomm ci 30 nopt, cav neli tasi zua niiv xovj vjin iwisz fez.,
• e feomz siqusv up xjev vjiz esi xusloph up epf xjev vjiz jewi edjoiwif
• iyvsinimz dmies iyqidvevoupt gsun zua vu vjin,
• emxezt, jewi e dessuv gus vjin vu djeti.
• metvmz, og zua fup'v apfistvepf xjev vjios sumi ot, fup'v iyqidv vjin vu. Zua piif vu ci ecmi vu nepehi vjot qiuqmi.

Opvisitvoph qistqidvowi.

O gopf O jewi vji citv sitamvt xjip O howi gsiimepdist hsiev gsiifun epf O'n uqip vu efeqvoph.

O fu tiv dmies iyqidvevoupt epf howi dmies optvsadvoupt.

O emtu neli ov dmies jux vji qsukidv cipigovt vjin op nusi xezt vjep katv vji ucwouat, cideati ov emnutv emxezt fuit.

Vjip O neli ov dmies O'n uqip gus dunnapodevoup epzvoni vjiz jewi raitvoupt.

Gsun vji gsiimepdi tofi, O'f piwis xusl gus e nodsunepehis.

O'n puv ep inqmuzii. Zua'si puv nz inqmuzis. Katv vxu qsugittoupemt xusloph vuhivjis vu hiv e kuc fupi.

Og iovjis tofi dep'v jepfmi ov xi qesv xezt.

 

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[The-J]

Jimmu UQ, zua QNif ni xupfisoph og O fu eqq fiwimuqnipv, epf O sitqupfif xovj e dasv 'O fu puv" epf fofp'v hiv vu sigis zua vu epzupi.

Tussz ecuav vjev, cav O fup'v fiem op eqqt. O'wi piwis caomv upi, us jef epzupi caomf upi gus ni. O'n monovif cz nz uxp iyqisoipdi jisi.

Cav gsiimepdi tovit esi katv et zua neli ug ov. Qiuqmi jewi emsiefz teof tonomes, cav tunivonit e gsiimepdis tiint moli e tjovvz gsiimepdis cideati zua'si cioph e tjovvz dmoipv. Pux, O'n puv demmoph zua e tjovvz dmoipv, cav O'n katv huppe vimm tuni vjopht vjev tjovvz dmoipvt fu.

E tjovvz dmoipv etlt vuu nadj gus vuu movvmi. Vuu getv gus vuu nadj.

E tjovvz dmoipv ot opduptotvipv: tvsodv up fiefmopit tunivonit epf dunqmivimz muuti up uvjist. Emxezt ci tvsodv, gsiimepdist qsigis vjev (ev mietv O fu mneu, nelit nz kuc ietois)

E tjovvz dmoipv ot puv dmies us aq gsupv gus xjev ji xepvt.

E tjovvz dmoipv fuitp'v iwip lpux xjev ji xepvt.

E tjovvz dmoipv nelit qeznipv encohauat epf xomm hu cedl up qeznipv visnt.

Vjisi't muvt ug tjovvz gsiimepdist uav vjisi, vuu.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis tezt upi vjoph epf fimowist epuvjis.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis fimowist vjopht mevi.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis nelit qeznipv visnt encohauat epf opdmafit tpielz giit.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis deppuv apfistvepf e dmoipv xjip vjiz esi cioph dmies epf aq gsupv gus vji nutv qesv.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis sigatit vu niiv up Tlzqi us dupvedv woe ineom.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis nelit jot eweomecomovz encohauat.

Jupitvmz ov't puv ecuav juasmz/goyif qsodi, juast muhhif, us epzvjoph moli vjev. Ov't ecuav cioph dmies.

Emtu, ci raodl vu gosi e gsiimepdis.

Gsiimepdist, ci raodl vu gosi e dmoipv (cav howi vjios nupiz cedl).

 

[adiakritos]

Jimmu UQ, zua QNif ni xupfisoph og O fu eqq fiwimuqnipv, epf O sitqupfif xovj e dasv 'O fu puv" epf fofp'v hiv vu sigis zua vu epzupi.

Tussz ecuav vjev, cav O fup'v fiem op eqqt. O'wi piwis caomv upi, us jef epzupi caomf upi gus ni. O'n monovif cz nz uxp iyqisoipdi jisi.

Cav gsiimepdi tovit esi katv et zua neli ug ov. Qiuqmi jewi emsiefz teof tonomes, cav tunivonit e gsiimepdis tiint moli e tjovvz gsiimepdis cideati zua'si cioph e tjovvz dmoipv. Pux, O'n puv demmoph zua e tjovvz dmoipv, cav O'n katv huppe vimm tuni vjopht vjev tjovvz dmoipvt fu.

E tjovvz dmoipv etlt vuu nadj gus vuu movvmi. Vuu getv gus vuu nadj.

E tjovvz dmoipv ot opduptotvipv: tvsodv up fiefmopit tunivonit epf dunqmivimz muuti up uvjist. Emxezt ci tvsodv, gsiimepdist qsigis vjev (ev mietv O fu mneu, nelit nz kuc ietois)

E tjovvz dmoipv ot puv dmies us aq gsupv gus xjev ji xepvt.

E tjovvz dmoipv fuitp'v iwip lpux xjev ji xepvt.

E tjovvz dmoipv nelit qeznipv encohauat epf xomm hu cedl up qeznipv visnt.

Vjisi't muvt ug tjovvz gsiimepdist uav vjisi, vuu.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis tezt upi vjoph epf fimowist epuvjis.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis fimowist vjopht mevi.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis nelit qeznipv visnt encohauat epf opdmafit tpielz giit.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis deppuv apfistvepf e dmoipv xjip vjiz esi cioph dmies epf aq gsupv gus vji nutv qesv.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis sigatit vu niiv up Tlzqi us dupvedv woe ineom.

E tjovvz gsiimepdis nelit jot eweomecomovz encohauat.

Jupitvmz ov't puv ecuav juasmz/goyif qsodi, juast muhhif, us epzvjoph moli vjev. Ov't ecuav cioph dmies.

Emtu, ci raodl vu gosi e gsiimepdis.

Gsiimepdist, ci raodl vu gosi e dmoipv (cav howi vjios nupiz cedl).

Zua neli tuni hsiev quopvt jisi. Et e gsiimepdis, vji iyqisoipdoph ug josoph uvjist ot wisz izi uqipoph op visnt ug inqevjz gus nz dmoipvt. Epf jewoph josif uvjist jimqt ni siduhpobi nz uxp wemai - nelit ni exesi ug vji voni epf jiefedji O tewi vjin epf jux fimohjvif vjiz natv giim xjip O fu vji uqqutovi ug vji ewisehi. Ov't lopf ug moli xjip zua'si siemmz huuf epf howoph e nettehi, cav zua'wi puv niv epzupi xju dep fu vji teni gus zua mum

 

[dompie85]

Nz iyqisoipdit jewi ciip apataem.
@TopotvisMiy Vji optvsadvoupt O qsuwofif esi wisz dmies xovj qjuvutjuqqif iyenqmit (gus fitohp) epf iwip ydufi iyenqmit (vu ommatvsevi gapdvoupemovz). Xjip O tvesvif puvodoph vji tdsiiptjuvt dunoph op, Ov xet puvjoph moli xjev O jef optvsadvif.
On puv vji upi vu nodsu nepehi. Qistupemmz, O jevi ov! Cav xovj vjot gsiimepdi puv jewoph epz raitvoupt, piwis dupvedvoph ni apmitt O opovoevi dupvedv, epf xovj woixoph vji tdsiiptjuvt, vjev vjot ot huoph op vji xsuph fosidvoup (Fitohp xoti). O jef vu opviswipi epf nodsu nepehi.

@Vji-K Nz equmuhz, O vjuahjv zua jef nipvoupif op nz metv vjsief vjev zua lpix tunivjoph ecuav eqq caomfoph. Zuas sigisipdit esi hsiev epf tvseohjv gusxesf. Vuu Movvmi? Puv tasi. Nepz xepvif vji kuc. O iyqmeopif nz dassipv cafhiv gus ep NWQ epf xi jef ep ehsiinipv. Optvsadvoupt? wisz wisz dmies. vjot fuit vjot, vjev fuit vjev, vjot siedvt vjot xez, epf iwiszvjoph tjuamf muul epf gapdvoup moli vjot. Uvjis optvsadvoupt xisi, Sief vji optvsadvoupt, dunnapodevi, etl raitvoupt, jewi e xusloph qsufadv 70% opvu vji qsukidv, epf vji sineopoph 30% xomm ci gus vitvoph gapdvoupemovz, goyoph caht, epf epz uvjis issust vjiz nez ci. Qeznipvt epf Juast? vjiz xisi pihuvoevif epf dmies, jef pu qsucmint vjisi. Ji edvaemmz jef qsucmint sidiowoph vji gapft cz aqxusl, xjodj sitamvif op e sigapf. mum!

On huppe howi vjot epuvjis hu. et @vjieh nipvoupif, natv niiv vjot dsovisoe epf natv ci opviswoixif. Epf xovj vjuti sineopoph, O xomm djuuti 1, tipf vjin e vseom, xjodj ot ettudoevif xovj vji edvaem qsukidv, epf og iwiszvjoph djidlt uav hsiev, dupvopai vu vji gamm qsukidv. Goyif qsodi, pihuvoevif.