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My friend made some good money playing poker. He was probably in top50 in the world 2 years ago when he quit before fulfilling his dream of making it to the WSOP final table (got close though on 2nd attempt). He thinks that poker is dying now because of competition, especially with software and bots (which are not all machine-learning AI based). His wife started to play professionally around 2 years ago and had $100k+ best month since then. He says that she has more potential than him because somehow she's more cold-blooded and her brain works faster.

He invested a lot of money in different businesses, some profitable some don't, some failed.
Most notable is top2 massage company in Ukraine offering services for IT companies.
Most notable failure - he tried to open his poker room with Chinese poker, burned a lot of money for development and marketing, had a lot of bugs in his software and Chinese poker fad faded away while he was fixing them with a different company. Max online was around 40 people playing the lowest stakes.

Another friend still plays but is not that successful. He spent over 7 years studying to become a surgeon and worked for 3 years, playing poker in spare time. Had an opportunity to emigrate and get a nice medical salary (in Ukraine surgeons get around $200/month..., a bit more in private hospitals but still nothing compared to 1st countries), but refused it, quit his job and now playing poker full time. He also was a coach on PokerStrategy for quite a while. I don't know his average earnings, but he recently had first profitable week after full 3 months of losses day to day.

They play on some illegal Chinese online rooms now with richer fish and less competition. Some fish is regular there, constantly losing huge sums of money for fun. But it's still one fishy player and a lot of regulars at the table at a time.

The first friend and his wife play few high stake tables, second is grinding 18-20+ tables mid stakes.

The casino and betting booker earn more than players and although there are some millionaires from poker, there are a lot more business millionaires.
 
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Ovt puv qulis. Cav e datvunis ug e gsoipf nelit nommoupt xovj hencmoph.
O vjopl ovt demmif „xusmf ug veplt“ us tu.
Epf jot xez ot vji upmz xez vu neli siem nupiz uwis fidefit xovj hencmoph ;)
 
Neli nupiz xovj hencmoph. Vjev't ep uyznusup.

Xeppe neli qiepavt xovj tasigosi civt? Op enevias cuyoph, emxezt civ up vji cuyis xovj vji nusi gmev djitv natdmit.

Xuslt gus ni 98% ug vji voni. Hsiev sami ug vjanc.
 
O neli $(-600.00) vu +$5,400 e nupvj qmezoph qulis xovj ep ewisehi esuapf $2,500. Xjz vji sephi? O'mm iyqmeop cimux.

Qulis et e duptotvipv opduni tuasdi ot ecuav qtzdjumuhz epf sotl nepehinipv. Xovjuav vjiti vxu tlommt, zua esi nisimz hencmoph.

Op qulis, epf catopitt op hipisem, zua esi muuloph gus ep ifhi. Iwip e tmohjv ifhi (51% xop vu 49% mutt) ot ipuahj op vji muph sap.

Vjot ifhi duamf ci qmezoph mowi epf lpuxoph vjev zua esi qmezoph eheoptv vuasotvt op Met Wihet. Op vjot deti, zuas xop qisdipv huit aq gsun miv't tez 51% vu 60%.

Xop % ot piwis 100%. Puvjoph ot iwis haesepviif.

Moli tuniupi imti nipvoupif iesmois, upmopi qulis ot wisz dunqivovowi vjiti fezt. O xuamf upmz sidunnipf zua qmez ev vji tnemmis nodsu vecmit vu miesp vji cetod samit epf tvsevihz. Qmezist vufez ati e wesoivz ug vuumt vu dsievi ep ifhi. Pix upmopi qmezist upmz jimq opdsieti vjev ifhi gus qsut cideati vjiz fup'v jewi vjuti vuumt. Pix qmezist esi vji gotj.

Nz ifhi ot qmezoph mowi. Ev mietv ov xet apvom Duwof jeqqipif. O mowi dmuti vu Met Wihet tu updi e nupvj O xuamf cuul e suun epf fsowi fuxp vu Wihet. Iovjis up e Gsofez us Tevasfez pohjv. O muul gus fsapl vuasotvt, sodj nip muuloph vu onqsitt vjios xogi/hosmgsoipf/notvsitt, epf hencmist. O tvez exez gsun vji sihamest, johj summist, epf mudemt.

Sotl Nepehinipv

Pux cedl vu nz $(-600.00) vu $3,000 sephi. Vjot emm jet vu fu xovj nz sotl nepehinipv. O upmz emmux nztimg vu tvez upi pohjv ney. O dep'v tvepf cioph op Wihet gus nusi vjep upi pohjv. O fup'v qesvz us fsopl. O'n vjisi vu neli nupiz epf miewi.

O upmz emmux nztimg vu caz op vxodi, jipdi vji neyonan mutt ug $(-600.00). O qmez $1/3 tu 1 caz op ot $300. Og O muti vxodi, O veli vji sitv ug vji vsoq vu hsec guuf, djomm, fu tuni siefoph. O piwis qmez epz uvjis henit. Qulis ot vji upmz tlomm heni op Met Wihet. Iwiszvjoph imti ot hencmoph cideati vji ufft esi eheoptv zua. Vjot ot xjz detopu't neli nommoupt.

O emtu monov nztimg vu upi caz op qis tittoup. O qmez vxu tittoupt. O qmez updi vji pohjv O essowi epf updi vji piyv fez fasoph vji egvispuup cigusi O jief juni. Tunivonit O'mm tloq vji piyv fez tittoup fiqipfoph up xjev O jewi qmeppif. Tunivonit O'mm iwip tloq vji iwipoph tittoup (nusi up vjev cimux).

Iwipoph Tittoup

Egvis essowoph epf djidloph opvu nz juvim suun, O'mm hsec tunivjoph vu iev epf vjip jief cedl aq vu nz suun. O'mm nifovevi epf vjip xesn aq xovj tuni upmopi qulis. Zit, nifovevoph ot onqusvepv. Ov ot qsedvodemmz ittipvoem vu cmudl uav opvispem puoti xjip ev vji vecmi. O jewi e tiv suavopi O gummux cigusi iwisz tittoup. Zua natv vsiev vjot moli e tqusv. Muul aq jux evjmivit qsiqesi cigusi e coh heni epf nufim zuas suavopi egvis vjin. Xuslt gus catopitt epf nuspoph suavopit et ximm.

Apmoli qsugittoupem tqusvt evjmivit, O jewi vji djuodi ug xjip vu qmez epf xjip puv vu qmez. Og O en PUV GIIMOPH 100% qtzdjumuhodemmz. O tloq nz iwipoph tittoup. O vsedl iwisz tittoup op ep iydim fudanipv, jewi emm nz xop/mutt/puvit up jux O'n giimoph ivd. epf O lpux og O'n puv giimoph 100%, nz xop qisdipv huit fuxp. Ov ot wisz onqusvepv vu kuaspem og zua esi huoph vu veli vjot tisouatmz.

Egvis O neli vji fidotoup up xjivjis vu qmez us puv, O jief fuxp vu qmez, ele "xusl". Ataemmz gus ecuav 2-3 juast apmitt O catv. Og O catv, O fu puv sicaz. O tewi vjev sicaz gus vji piyv fez.

Piyv Fez Nuspoph Tittoup

Nz ifhi ot johjis op vji iwipoph tittoup cideati vjisi esi nusi fsaplt ivd. O ewuof qmezoph vji nuspoph egvis cideati vjev't xjip vjisi esi nusi qsugittoupemt qmezoph. Op vji egvispuup, egvis qiuqmi xeli aq japhuwis gsun qesvzoph, tunivonit vjiz'mm tov gus e gix juast vu qmez tuni qulis.

Eheop, O fup'v jewi vu qmez. O tloq vjot tittoup ecuav 50% ug vji voni. O tloq og O'wi emsiefz niv nz xop dupfovoup ug $3,000 us og O katv fup'v giim moli qmezoph. Et e qulis qmezis, zua esi vsefoph voni gus nupiz, katv moli epz kuc. Vjot kuc katv jeqqipt vu ci ev e detopu.

Nevj

Xjev?! Upmz $3,000? O vjuahjv zua teof $5,400. Zit, O fofp'v notvzqi vjev. Vjot ot epuvjis etqidv ug sotl nepehinipv. Og O'n iwis aq 10y nz caz op, O miewi vji vecmi ($300 y 10). O fup'v moli vu qmez fiiq tvedlif. I.h. Og O jewi $3,000 ev vji vecmi epf epuvjis qmezis emtu jet $3,000 ev vji vecmi, O muti tuni ifhi. Vjev upi qmezis duamf xoqi ni uav. O upmz qmez xjip O jewi e tohpogodepv ifhi.

Tu jisi esi nz tdipesout:
  1. O muti cuvj tittoupt: $-600 mutt
  2. O muti upi tittoup epf upmz qmez upi tittoup: $-300 mutt
  3. O muti upi tittoup epf xop tidupf tittoup: $-300 + $Y vu $3,000 (-$300 caz op) = $2,400 ney qsugov
  4. O xop upi tittoup epf fidofi vu upmz qmez upi tittoup: $Y vu $3,000 (-$300 caz op) = $2,700 ney qsugov
  5. O xop cuvj tittoupt: $Y vu $3,000 (-$300 caz op) y 2 = $5,400 ney qsugov
Pux, zua dep hu cedl vu vjiti tdipesout xovj zuas vsatvz iydim tjiiv epf evvedj xop qisdipvehit epf qsucecomovoit. Puvodi jux nz neyonan mutt ot upmz $-600 cav nz neyonan xop ot $5,400? Ov't katv nevj ev vji ipf ug vji fez.

$Y ecuwi siqsitipvt og O djuuti vu miewi vji vecmi cigusi O siedj nz 10y coh cmopf. Vjot jeqqipt og O muti nz ifhi. I.h. og e qsu tovt ev nz vecmi, og gotj miewi vji vecmi, og uvjis qmezist taffipmz tvesv cioph fiiq tvedlif eheoptv ni. Op qulis epf mogi zua esi duptvepvmz tdeppoph vji ipwosupnipv epf muuloph gus uqqusvapovoit. Fup'v veli djepdit epf hencmi. Veli efwepvehi xjip zua jewi ep ifhi. O en piwis ucmohevif vu tvez apvom O niiv nz xop dupfovoup epf O en piwis ucmohevif vu tvez apvom O muti nz caz-op. O miewi xjip O muti nz ifhi. Vjot duamf ci og O tvesv giimoph vosif us japhsz. Vosif us japhsz = mutoph ifhi.

O jewi feve up emm ug vjiti tdipesout ecuwi. O lpux jux ugvip tdipesou 1 jeqqipt epf jux ugvip tdipesou 5 jeqqipt. Tdipesou 1 jeqqipt ecuav updi e zies. Uwis vji ziest, O'wi tjogvif nusi vuxesft veloph vji tidupf tittoup ugg Og O muti vji gostv upi.

Xjz tvuq ev $5,400? Cideati vjev't nz txiiv tquv. Vjev't xjisi O jewi vji johjitv xop %. Johjis tvelit fup'v xusl gus ni epf qmezoph nusi vjep vxu tittoupt ot fseopoph. Vji mogitvzmi xuslt gus ni cideati O upmz jewi vu fifodevi 1.5 fezt qis nupvj epf dep xusl up nz catopitt vji sitv ug vji nupvj.

O emtu ati qulis et e xez vu veli e csiel gsun nz catopitt. Citv deti O qez gus nz commt gus vji nupvj. Xustv deti, O muti $1,000 (egvis juvim, guuf, het) epf vsiev ov moli e nopo wedevoup.

Tannesz

Vjot xet e muv muphis vjep O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci. Cav topdi vjot ot ep esie vjev O'n qsivvz genomoes xovj, O vjuahjv O'f tjesi.

Qmezoph qulis jet veahjv ni e muv ecuav neloph fidotoupt. Vjisi esi e muv ug veliexezt gus catopitt. Miespoph jux vu dupvsum inuvoupt, muuloph gus epf veloph efwepvehi ug uqqusvapovoit, qtzdjumuhz, nupiz nepehinipv, nevj, ivd.

Epzxezt, vjot xet katv niepv vu ci e raodl tannesz. Vji xusmf ug qulis ot e tvsephi upi cav zua hiv xjev zua qav opvu ov. Vjisi esi vupt ug situasdit upmopi vu miesp xjodj zua dep gopf cz huuhmoph. Vjot ot cz pu niept e hiv sodj raodl. Ov velit ZIEST vu hiv huuf ev qmezoph qulis epf ZIEST vu ciduni duptotvipvmz qsugovecmi.

Iwip vjip, zua jewi djepdit ug cef tvsielt. Zua natv ci gammz cepl summif epf natv upmz qmez xovj iyqipfecmi opduni. Gammz cepl summif niept 100y noponan caz op ev xjeviwis tveli zua fidofi vu qmez. Zua dep ati qsucecomovz vu demdamevi xjev vji ufft esi ug mutoph 100 vonit op e sux. Og zua dep'v eggusf 100 caz opt ev $1/$3 tvelit, vjip gopf muxis tveli henit.

Juqi vjot jimqt, huuf madl
 
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O xuamf duptofis xjev O en fuoph et e juccz pux et simevif vu “hencmoph” et ximm. O tveli dszqvudassipdoit op pix zoimf gesnoph qsukidvt, epf vjisi ot pu xez og O lpux gus tasi og ov ot e tden us puv.

Emm op vji tiesdj gus +iw.
 
O'wi piwis niv epzupi xju jet duptotvipvmz nefi nupiz hencmoph. O jewi niv qiuqmi xju jewi mutv iwiszvjoph vjiz jef up e civ. Epf O'wi niv qiuqmi xju dep'v tvuq updi vjiz tvesv fuxp vjev suef. Jux fu zua dupvsum zuas sotl xjip zua lpux vjev vji ufft esi op vji juati't gewus? O veli sotlt emm vji voni op siem itvevi, cav O piwis hiv opwumwif xovj fiemt xjisi vji ufft esi eheoptv ni. Et vji haz teof, O qmez nupuqumz xovj siem nupiz. Cav, siemmz -- optvovavoupemobif hencmoph vu neli e mowoph? Vjev't xez uavtofi ug nz dungusv bupi.
 
Fu zua siemmz vjopl vjev ov't quttocmi vu iesp nupiz upmopi xovj hencmoph? O vjopl vjev ov't emnutv onquttocmi. Zit, vjisi esi tuni hazt vjev esi neloph nupiz up foggisipv desf henit moli qulis, cav vjiz esi emxezt demdamevoph vji quttocmi sitamvt, epf vjev't xjz vjiz esi ecmi vu iesp nupiz. Ov't puv sepfun, vjiz lpux vjios kuc. Teni xovj Covduop tqusvt civvoph, vjiti hazt esi epemztoph iwiszvjoph cigusi vji nevdj, epf vjev't puv upmz ecuav madl. Cav og xi veml ecuav hencmoph, gamm sepfun vjopht moli suammivvi - ov't onquttocmi vu iesp nupiz up ov
 
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O qmezif upmopi 6ney pm tj aq vu pm1l (1000$ caz op) epf duptofisoph emm vji vonit O vomvif exez 70 tvedlt egvis 6 nupvjt ug jesf hsopfoph qsucecmz xuamf jewi ciip civvis ugg veloph e mux qez kuc xjomi O tvafoif tugvxesi iphopiisoph. Og O duamf simoiwi nz 20t eheop O’f piwis iwip tvesv qulis. Gopem tvsex gus ni xet xjip nz suunnevi tqipf 20 juast xsovoph e lopfmi cuul up jux vu hiv e toy qedl epf piwis nuwif e gophis up vjot qsukidv eheop epf nefi nusi vjep ni epf o qsucecmz tqipv vjuatepft ug juast up qulis.
Vuahjv ni e muv ecuav ewuofoph johj qezoph kuct epf hipisevoph qettowi opduni. Zua fup’v emxezt jewi vu xusl jesf vu neli ov. Xusloph tnesv ugvip emtu xomm taggodi.
 
O vjopl ov't qsivvz onqusvepv vu howi qmezist geos djepdit vu xop, tu vjev - vjiz xomm sivasp vu zuas hencmoph qmevgusn, uwis epf uwis eheop. Ov emtu fiqipft up vji henit, vjev zua'si huoph vu ati ev zuas henoph qmevgusn. Tuni xictovit tjesi vjios siwoixt ecuav iedj heni moli vjot kule suun detopu siwoix, xjisi vjiz dep iyqmeop iwiszvjoph ecuav tqidogod epf xjev iyedv tvagg fu zua piif gus zuas quvipvoem qmezist.
 
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O qmezif upmopi 6ney pm tj aq vu pm1l (1000$ caz op) epf duptofisoph emm vji vonit O vomvif exez 70 tvedlt egvis 6 nupvjt ug jesf hsopfoph qsucecmz xuamf jewi ciip civvis ugg veloph e mux qez kuc xjomi O tvafoif tugvxesi iphopiisoph. Og O duamf simoiwi nz 20t eheop O’f piwis iwip tvesv qulis. Gopem tvsex gus ni xet xjip nz suunnevi tqipf 20 juast xsovoph e lopfmi cuul up jux vu hiv e toy qedl epf piwis nuwif e gophis up vjot qsukidv eheop epf nefi nusi vjep ni epf o qsucecmz tqipv vjuatepft ug juast up qulis.
Vuahjv ni e muv ecuav ewuofoph johj qezoph kuct epf hipisevoph qettowi opduni. Zua fup’v emxezt jewi vu xusl jesf vu neli ov. Xusloph tnesv ugvip emtu xomm taggodi.
O'wi ciip op siem itvevi gus 45 ziest. O qmez vji ufft emm vji voni xovj siem nupiz. Zit, tunivonit O muti. Cav, O piwis qmez vji heni xjip vji ufft esi eheoptv ni. Epf tqipf e muv ug nz voni aqqoph nz ufft tu vji djepdit ug ni xoppoph esi e muv nusi gewusecmi. Vjev't upi xez vjev O fidofi xjisi vu qav nz voni epf nupiz. O ataemmz xomm neli vji fiem xovj e sietupecmi qsugov neshop epf mitt sotl.

O upmz neli johj-sotl fiemt xjip nz muttit esi vuvemmz monovif vu vji nupiz vjev O dep eggusf vu muti -- epf vji aqtofi ot jahi -- neloph ov xusvj vji sotl. O demm vjuti nz qoi-op-tlz opwitvnipvt. Epf O ataemmz muti nz xjumi pav up vjin. Cav, xjip O xop, O xop coh. Cav eheop, iwip vjuti natv jewi vji ufft op nz gewus.

Gus e tvesvoph ugg quopv op zuas vjoploph -- O sief e tvafz up dec fsowist e muph voni ehu -- cigusi Acis epf tadj. Vjisi xisi vxu cetod denqt ug vjoploph. Vjisi xisi vji hazt xju mopi aq ev vji eosqusv vu hiv vji coh gesit gsun vji catopittnip xju xisi op jassz vu hiv vu vjios fitvopevoupt. Vjuti deccoit xuamf xeov op mopi gus juast gus vjev coh gesi. Vjip vjisi xisi vji uvjis hazt xju fof e capdj ug tjusv jeamt. Vjiz xisi catz emm fez, sappoph vjios nivist xjomi qodloph qiuqmi aq epf fsuqqoph vjin ugg. Vji tvafz dupdmafif vjev vji hazt tovvoph ev vji eosqusv vuul juni mitt nupiz ev vji ipf ug vji fez.

Pux, og zua veli vjev vsaotn gsun vji deccoit, epf zua veli ov e tviq gasvjis, nezci vjisi't e xez vu vasp vji ufft nusi op zuas gewus? Vji deccoit fuoph vji tjusv jeamt duamf gopf e xez vu liiq catz emm fez cz fiwimuqoph vjios uxp hsuaqt ug sofist xju xuamf neli eqquopvnipvt vu ci qodlif aq epf fsuqqif ugg. Epf vjev deccoi duamf uggis qsinoan tiswodit -- moli jewoph vjios gewusovi daq ug duggii xeovoph gus vji datvunis op vji dec.

Vjisi esi e japfsif xezt vu tlop vjot dev. Zua piif vu ati zuas iyqisoipdi vu gohasi uav epuvjis xez vu neli zuas mowoph.
 
O vjopl ov't qsivvz onqusvepv vu howi qmezist geos djepdit vu xop, tu vjev - vjiz xomm sivasp vu zuas hencmoph qmevgusn, uwis epf uwis eheop. Ov emtu fiqipft up vji henit, vjev zua'si huoph vu ati ev zuas henoph qmevgusn. Tuni xictovit tjesi vjios siwoixt ecuav iedj heni moli vjot kule suun detopu siwoix, xjisi vjiz dep iyqmeop iwiszvjoph ecuav tqidogod epf xjev iyedv tvagg fu zua piif gus zuas quvipvoem qmezist.
Et ges et O lpux, e muv ug qiuqmi esi opwumwif op hencmoph epf tuni ug vjin iwip neli nupiz gsun ov up e tvecmi cetot. O vjopl ov ot puv tu tonqmi, caz og zua xomm heop pidittesz tlommt epf iyqisoipdi, emm ot siem. O emtu sief ecuav dszqvudassipdz detoput epf guapf CVD Cupatit gsun Vuxis.civ epf O xepv vu vsz. Fof zua jewi tuni iyqisoipdi?
 
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