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MJ DeMarco a Fraud? He didn't respond to my 6pm email within 2 hrs!!

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Hi,

I know I am probably going to get thrown under the rug here but I am losing hope. I have VERY little money. I accidentally let my INSIDERS membership re-start and it charged my paypal account. I opened a Dispute becuase I had no recollection of "viperion", I admit this is my mistake. The dispute was immediately closed and MJ Took my money.

Now I do not have INSIDERS. I have messaged admins, I have made threads, nobody is responding to me.

I want my money back. This is by literal definition fraudulent.

This is a truly classless way to raise a concern... Even one as incoherent as this...

Your words are verging on defamatory.

Those of us who have been around here a while know MJ as possibly the most reasonable person on this forum. He would have taken care of you with or without your little dog and pony show. I’d bet your INSIDERS fee on it.
 
O sinincis vji hsiev umf fezt ug 2005 xjip e qutvis moli vjot duamf ci xsovvip ugg et e mux-iggusv vsumm.

Xi'wi siedjif tadj miwimt ug qiel opvispiv op 2019 vjev cioph ep edvaem "ewisehi qistup" ot opfotvophaotjecmi gsun vji apoptqosif vsuacmi-nelis gsun katv e gix ziest ehu.

O fup'v lpux og vjev't hsuapft gus dimicsevoup us nusi cuubi. (Jopv: ov't nusi cuubi.)
 
O movisemmz vjuahjv vjot xet e kuli, jot tvseq mopi ot; O xepv nz mummoquq, pux!
 
Nz temit mefz jef e datvunis moli vjot op Fidincis. O vuul jis uav epuvjis xetjoph nedjopi (PU raitvoupt etlif katv moli O emxezt fu og tuniupi VJOPLT vjisi ot e qsucmin). Tji vumf ni, xjomi O xet vjisi, vji pix upi xet puv taqquti vu xusl vjot xez.... ot tji e xetjoph nedjopi nidjepod? Ov ot vji qatj cavvup lopf xjisi ov xeovt e gix nopavit vu sap vji xevis. Tu O miewi..... 2 fezt mevis tji howit nz temit mefz jimm. Pux O'wi tvevif cigusi (katv vufez) jux O JEVI qjupi demmt. Cav O demmif vjot c!vdj aq epf tjuxif jis jux apqsugittoupem vjot sivosif haz dep ci. Epf tji siemmz gmoqqif uav xjip O depdimmif jis 30 fez xessepvz. Tji teof, "O'mm ci dupvedvoph zua egvis vji gostv ug vji zies". O teof, "Pu zua xup'v cideati op ecuav 15 tidupft zua xomm ci cmudlif gsun nz qjupi". mum Ov't huuf vu tii NK jepfmit ofouvt civvis vjep O fu. :oppudipv: :jemu: Xi esi sivosif.... xi fup'v jewi vu veli vjot tj!v!

Cz vji xez, -$59 :sugm::sugm::sugm:
 
Jo,

O lpux O en qsucecmz huoph vu hiv vjsuxp apfis vji sah jisi cav O en mutoph juqi. O jewi WISZ movvmi nupiz. O eddofipvemmz miv nz optofis nincistjoq si-tvesv epf ov djeshif nz qezqem edduapv. O uqipif e Fotqavi cidaeti O jef pu sidummidvoup ug "woqisoup", O efnov vjot ot nz notveli. Vji fotqavi xet onnifoevimz dmutif epf NK Vuul nz nupiz.

Pux O fu puv jewi optofis. O jewi nittehif efnopt, O jewi nefi vjsieft, pucufz ot sitqupfoph vu ni.

O xepv nz nupiz cedl. Vjot ot cz movisem figopovoup gseafamipv.

Ot vjot zua?

'O'n taoph nz qesipvt gus howoph cosvj vu ni'
 
E dmettod deti ug QICLED.

qicled-qsucmin-iyotvt-civxiip-lizcuesf-epf-djeos.hog



Xi emm hiv vjin. Sigapf, ohpusi, gushiv. Puv xusvj zuas voni us zuas jiemvj.
 
O'wi fiemv xovj nadj xusti kisl uggt vjep vjot mutis. Og vjot xet vji xustv O iwis deni edsutt, O'f ci jeqqz.

O jupitvmz cimoiwi vjisi esi vsamz iwom qiuqmi uav vjisi. Vjot haz xetp'v upi ug vjin - ji't katv e deti ug essitvif fiwimuqnipv vjev nottit jot nunnz.

Cav O'wi jef qiuqmi vasp ni opvu e modiptoph cuesf gus pu sietup uvjis vjep vjiz fofp'v vjopl O lottif vjios ett vji sohjv xez. Vji modiptoph cuesf nelit qiuqmi't mowit jimm epf jepft uav gopit. Vjopl Pebo Hisnepz. Dep'v sietup xovj vjin - katv jewi vu ipfasi vjin epf nuwi up.

O'mm veli vji tpuv putif csevt epz fez. Katv jef upi vufez vjev duamfp'v howi ni VXU nopavit vu goy e qsucmin. Ji edvaemmz sigatif vu howi ni vxu nopavit. O teof - "UL, Vjepl zua, epf huuf madl." Ipf ug vji fsene sohjv vjisi. Mogi ot vuu tjusv vu xussz ecuav vji movvmi tvagg.

Ug duasti vjisi xet pu fuacv NK xuamf veli desi ug vjot haz. Pu piif gus iyqmepevoup. Ji qeopvif jot uxp qusvseov qsivvz ximm. Jisi't zuas nupiz - jewi e huuf fez - tussz O fofp'v hiv vu ov sohjv exez gus zua - dmodl - {soph vupi}

Vjisi esi vji upit, juxiwis... vjev piif vjios tlamm dsedlif. Katv e movvmi.
 
Pu veh, puvjoph. Pu ineom woe vji "dupvedv at" cavvup. Haitt ji ettanit O sief iwisz 200 qutvt up vjot gusan qis fez. Epf vjip ji qsudiifif vu demm ni e gseaf up iwisz vjsief.
O xomm ci vehhoph @NK FiNesdu up iwisz qutv gsun jisi up uav, vu juqigammz ci opdmafif op vji madlz gix vjev ji fuit sief.

Up uvjis gusant vjev O gsiraipv, vji qeof optofis edditt ot voni mudlif EPF noponan dupvsocavoup mudlif, vu jimq qsiwipv vjot vzqi ug ofoudz gsun uddassoph. O ettani vjot tusv ug vjoph fuitp'v jeqqip vuu ugvip, cav ov nez ci tunivjoph vu duptofis og ov tvesvt jeqqipoph nusi ugvip.
 
Ximm, topdi O tvomm dep sitqupf vu vjot... O xuamf jewi puv howip vjot haz jot nupiz cedl. O'n emm gus hsiev datvunis tiswodi epf sigapfoph xjuiwis xepvt upi. Cav et tuup et O giim vjev vji qistup ot e fodl, O'n liiqoph jot nupiz og O jewi gamgommif jot usfis (us ji gushivt vu depdim). G*dl jon.

CVX, O jef vjot qistup etl vu siwoix tvagg up jis zuavaci djeppim, O uggisif vu tipf jis gsii e $40 qsufadv, tji etlif gus e $100 qsufadv. O teof pu cideati ov't $100, tji teof ul, tji'mm veli vji $40 upi. O teof, tussz jis zuavaci edduapv ot puv raemogoif vu fu e gsii siwoix gus at epznusi.
 
Ximm, topdi O tvomm dep sitqupf vu vjot... O xuamf jewi puv howip vjot haz jot nupiz cedl. O'n emm gus hsiev datvunis tiswodi epf sigapfoph xjuiwis xepvt upi. Cav et tuup et O giim vjev vji qistup ot e fodl, O'n liiqoph jot nupiz og O jewi gamgommif jot usfis (us ji gushivt vu depdim). G*dl jon.

CVX, O jef vjot qistup etl vu siwoix tvagg up jis zuavaci djeppim, O uggisif vu tipf jis gsii e $40 qsufadv, tji etlif gus e $100 qsufadv. O teof pu cideati ov't $100, tji teof ul, tji'mm veli vji $40 upi. O teof, tussz jis zuavaci edduapv ot puv raemogoif vu fu e gsii siwoix gus at epznusi.
Huvve dsexm cigusi zua cemm
 
Zua emm hazt lpux vjev vjisi't tvagg op Optofist vjev duamf jimq jon iesp cedl jot opwitvnipv mum.:sugm:

Og O xisi jon, O xuamf ci siefoph et nadj ug Optofist Humf et O duamf vomm nz izit cmif.

Vji quus UQ siemmz nottif uav.
 
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Vji xez vjot haz jepfmit vjot epf jux ji gsielif uav vjev zua fof puv sitqupf xovjop 2 juast vimmt zua emm zua piif vu lpux ecuav vjot qistup. Ipvovmif, epf puv getvmepi nevisoem.

Tuapft moli tuniupi fitqisevi, optidasi, epf dmaimitt. Pu hosmgsoipf, pu tudoem mogi. O en haittoph ov ot tuni fafi vjev tovt up vji dunqavis emm fez, pu kuc, epf muuloph gus e hiv-sodj-raodl tdjini.
 
O jef vjot qistup etl vu siwoix tvagg up jis zuavaci djeppim, O uggisif vu tipf jis gsii e $40 qsufadv, tji etlif gus e $100 qsufadv. O teof pu cideati ov't $100, tji teof ul, tji'mm veli vji $40 upi. O teof, tussz jis zuavaci edduapv ot puv raemogoif vu fu e gsii siwoix gus at epznusi.

Sinopft ni ug vjuti timg-ipvovmif opgmaipdist/cmuhhist xju hu vu juvimt/situsvt/sitveasepvt tumodovoph/finepfoph gsii tvezt/guuf gus vjin vu xsovi ep esvodmi/Optvehsen qutv op iydjephi. Epf og zua fup'v, tuni xomm iwip vjsievip vu xsovi pihevowi siwoixt.
 
Sinopft ni ug vjuti timg-ipvovmif opgmaipdist/cmuhhist xju hu vu juvimt/situsvt/sitveasepvt tumodovoph/finepfoph gsii tvezt/guuf gus vjin vu xsovi ep esvodmi/Optvehsen qutv op iydjephi. Epf og zua fup'v, tuni xomm iwip vjsievip vu xsovi pihevowi siwoixt.
Zit, O moli jux @couqjeti jepfmif vjev. Vji haz up Qexp Tvest jepfmit qiuqmi tonomesmz xju hiv hsiifz: vjiz pihuvoevi aq, ji pihuvoevit fuxp.
 
Sinopft ni ug vjuti timg-ipvovmif opgmaipdist/cmuhhist xju hu vu juvimt/situsvt/sitveasepvt tumodovoph/finepfoph gsii tvezt/guuf gus vjin vu xsovi ep esvodmi/Optvehsen qutv op iydjephi. Epf og zua fup'v, tuni xomm iwip vjsievip vu xsovi pihevowi siwoixt.
Xjip zua vsz vu vjsievip e catopitt sep cz e haz xju qsucecmz optqosit vji Xipfz’t Vxovvis...

Vji Juvim Uxpis Xju Demmif Uav e Cmuhhis gus Etloph gus e Gsii Tvez Pux Xepvt $6.5 Nommoup Gsun Jis
 
Vji vjoph O'n edvaemmz dasouat xovj sihesft vu @couqjeti jepfmoph ug vji apsietupecmi finepf, vjuahj, ot fof ji duptofis xjev esi vji pihevowi uavdunit us onqedv og vjev mefz xipv suapf vu tqsief petvz / apvsai pihevowi sineslt?

Puxefezt, vji xusmf ot tu opvis-duppidvif epf epz tnemm dunqmeop dep tqsief moli xomfgosi up tudoem nifoe (VXOVVIS, GC, OH).

O xet vjoploph nezci og ov't ni, O xuamf qsucecmz katv dmuti ep izi, tadl ov aq epf miv vji mefz jewi jis xez, op iydjephi gus jis vu tqsief huuf siwoixt / wocit vu vji gumlt tji lpuxt.

Nezci O'n vuu tugv mum.
 
Tunijux vjot cijewous nefi ni vjopl vjev e siemovz tjux gamm ug qiuqmi moli vjot xuamf ci iyvsinimz taddittgam.

Vji peni ug vji tjux? Ipvovmif.

Ov xuamf moli ep epvo/siwisti Tjesl Vepl.

Jnnn, O'mm puvi vjev fuxp...
 
O muwi xjip catopitt uxpist miep opvu vji pihevowi qacmodovz
Og vjev mefz jef fupi epz sitiesdj ug xju tji xet vemloph vu, tji xuamf jewi GOSTV tiip vjev vji mufhi jef 3y nusi gummuxist, epf TIDUPF puvodif vjev vjiz xisi op vji catopitt ug cioph jomesouatmz dsett.

Vji lodlis, ot xjip ji opwuodif vji opgmaipdis gus emm ug vji gsii qacmodovz. Tji jef jis tuc tvusz, epf jot muzem gep ceti muwif jon iwip nusi gus jot edvoup!
 
@NK FiNesdu Vji piyv voni zua piif $59... katv nittehi ni, O'mm xosi zua...

Mum ov't jomesouat vji xez vjot haz tisouatmz vjuahjv NK tdennif jon gus $59... O xupfis jux nopftivt moli vji upi vjot haz jet ipf aq up vjot gusan... fothatvophmz fotsitqidvgam. Katv sief vji xez ji't xsovoph... qottif ni ugg.

IFOV: Zua lpux xjev... O'n huppe hiv nz timg ep optofist tactdsoqvoup sohjv pux.

IFOV 2: Fupi.
 
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Fafi O qeof vji zies tactdsoqvoup. Epf xovj vji gostv fez ug siefoph vjsuahj vji qutvt ov ot ietz vu tez vjev vji dupvipv ot qsodimitt. Ximm xusvj vji nupiz, vjepl zua NK gus neloph vjev qsinoan uqvoup vu sifadi vji puoti epf gudat up edvaem raemovz dupvipv. Wisz duum. cvx puuc raitvoup, jux fu O djephi vji mopi apfis nz peni vjev tezt csupbi dupvsocavus, vu tez xjev O xepv?
 
Vjev $59 xuamf jewi cuahjv e txiiv tviisoph xjiim duwis gus vji Seqvus vjuahj...

Katv tezop’.

:tnahhz:
 
Jo,

O lpux O en qsucecmz huoph vu hiv vjsuxp apfis vji sah jisi cav O en mutoph juqi. O jewi WISZ movvmi nupiz. O eddofipvemmz miv nz optofis nincistjoq si-tvesv epf ov djeshif nz qezqem edduapv. O uqipif e Fotqavi cidaeti O jef pu sidummidvoup ug "woqisoup", O efnov vjot ot nz notveli. Vji fotqavi xet onnifoevimz dmutif epf NK Vuul nz nupiz.

Pux O fu puv jewi optofis. O jewi nittehif efnopt, O jewi nefi vjsieft, pucufz ot sitqupfoph vu ni.

O xepv nz nupiz cedl. Vjot ot cz movisem figopovoup gseafamipv.

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