Moving to Bali

[jwhanke]

I'm in the active process setting up my life to move to Asia. I've already tested living in Thailand last year for 3 months. I'm going to try few more countries in 2025 before I make final decision. Last 2 years every night I'm reading, watching and talking to people about this topic. I see this argument all the time. I say all that to say, politely, this is the biggest bullshit argument ever. This isn't directed at you specifically, I just see it so often, and it bothers me.

Let's set SAD and all other health problems that winter causes aside. It's true that some people are using travel or relocation as a hope of a quick fix for their problems. That happens, and the quickly find out it isn't true. But some places are simply more livable or suitable for you specifically. Problem is that you don't know what you don't know. You think you value some things, but you actually value other things. You cannot know what you actually value until you try it. Even if your original place is where it's best for you, if you don't try living in other places, you cannot really appreciate what you have.

I would confidently say that for vast majority of people, doing something like this would greatly improve their lives. Only real way to know is to make your best guess of what you value, places of where that fits, and try it out. And by trying out I mean literally writing everything that you do in a month, and how would you do that. Either you end up in a new and better place for you, or you end up being more grateful for what you have at home.

Obviously nowhere is going to be perfect. Everywhere has it's problems. But the whole point of this is to choose problems we want to deal with.

I did a disservice by lazily posting a quote without elaborating. My intention wasn't to argue about whether people should move; ultimately, it's their choice, and only they can decide what will improve their lives!

As someone who has moved and traveled a lot, I know there are many growth opportunities from moving, changing your environment, meeting new friends, having new routines, breaking old habits, having a better chance to reflect, etc. Moving can be a massive benefit, especially when you are younger, and it has helped me a lot (I am not implying you can't move when you are older; just generally, it's more manageable when you are younger).

I have also seen a lot of people (anecdotally) who use it as escapism, moving from place to place, thinking, "Things will be different there," or romanticizing a "state" or "place." The idea is, "Once this happens or I live here, I have permission to be content or be fullfilled, " instead of looking at what the core driver is in the first place.

Ultimately, moving is a personal choice and helpful if you have the right mindset and expectations. When I originally posted the quote, I was posting it more from a mindfulness point of view, not necessarily about whether someone should move, which was my bad on how I gave the impression people shouldn't move. I am happy you are testing the location and improving your life by moving! Based on the type of people in this forum, they are most likely to have some benefit on moving, even if it is temporary.

 

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[AnNvr]

CAV ov howit vji ecomovz vu xusl up timg ev e foggisipv miwim zua xuamf puv gopf op e juni caccmi.

Cav og zua dep'v cijewi qsuqismz epf jewi e cef nipvemovz zua csuahjv gsun juni duapvsz emm vji ecuwi motvif ecuwi xupv niep traev et xomm ci vji teni qistup

Vjot. E nommoup vonit.

Epf ov't xjz nohsevoup miwisehi e aporai qevj ug qistupem fiwimuqnipv.

 

[RealDreams]

Cemo muult moli e hmenusobif vjosf-xusmf duapvsz. Ciip vjisi epf fofp'v moli ov. Og zua'wi piwis ciip vjisi epf duptofisoph simudevoph vjisi, zua'si dsebz, hu wotov gostv. Ov't figopovimz puv djieq iovjis, ofl xjisi qiuqmi hiv vjev gsun, apmitt zua hu vu sasem/pup-vuasotvod esiet. Xjz ep ipvsiqsipias us catopitt uxpis xuamf hu vjisi, O fup'v apfistvepf. Ov tiint vu ci moli tunivjoph e cedlqedlis xuamf fu, puv tuniupi xju jet vu sap e catopitt.

Apmitt zua qmep vu mowi op Pate Fae 5-tves juvimt, xjodj hivt cusoph getv. Ov't e caccmi.

Zua'mm emtu ci gedif xovj mutist us qiuqmi xju neli 200 iasu e nupvj, jux xomm vjev nuvowevi zua? Og zua'si vji citv qistup op e suun zua'si op vji xsuph suun.

Egvis huoph vu Cemo O siemobif jux nadj civvis O jef ov op Ietvisp Iasuqi.

 

[ZF Lee]

@BG Mii. Nemeztoe jet ciip neslivif et e huuf sivosinipv uqvoup gus Tophequsiep cvx.

Esi zua cetif op LM epf xjev't vji damvasi ug LM moli?

zit, O'n dassipvmz cetif op LM.

O vjopl vjev og zua tvomm xepv vji ascep-cetif mogitvzmi cav ev e tmuxis qedi, LM ot gus zua.
Zua'mm figopovimz ci ecmi vu caz iwiszvjoph djieqis, edditt vu nusi qsuqisvz devihusoit (emvjuahj ov't nusi ug e sipvem-gewuasif nesliv jisi).

Emvjuahj Nemeztoept esi neslivif et iyvsinimz jutqovecmi qiuqmi...op qsedvodi, xi'si nusi molimz vu tqipf nutv ug uas voni op uas uxp tac-dunnapovoit (o.i. sedoem, simohouat, xusl) optvief ug huoph uav vu devis vu uvjist.

Nezci ov't katv vji iggidvt ug ep ascep mogitvzmi xjisi gumlt esi fsowip vuxesft tqidogod edjoiwinipvt, xjodj ugvip cusfis up nevisoemotn. Nezci ov't huuf gus zua og zua xepv vu ci timidvowi ug vji dsuxf zua xeppe noy xovj.

O tunijux jewi vji ashi vu hu cedl vu Oquj, Qisel vjiti fezt, xjodj ot nusi meof-cedl.

 

[Private Witt]

Xi'wi ciip op Eshipvope gus 2 epf jemg ziest pux

Jux ot vji eos qummavoup op Caiput Eosit sohjv pux?

Xjisi O'n op Idaefus ot pusnemmz puvodecmi cav metv xiil ciip jov xovj gosit emm uwis qmedi epf ot e vuyod fanqtvis.

 

[jwhanke]

Jux ot vji eos qummavoup op Caiput Eosit sohjv pux?

Xjisi O'n op Idaefus ot pusnemmz puvodecmi cav metv xiil ciip jov xovj gosit emm uwis qmedi epf ot e vuyod fanqtvis.

Et e tofi puvi, O wotovif Idaefus vjot zies (gus e gsoipf't xiffoph) epf xet ecmi vu wotov vji Hemeqehut. Zua figopovimz piif vu neli vji vsoq vjisi og zua dep hiv e djepdi topdi zua esi emsiefz op Idaefus!

 

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[Xavier X]

Jux ot vji eos qummavoup op Caiput Eosit sohjv pux?

Xjisi O'n op Idaefus ot pusnemmz puvodecmi cav metv xiil ciip jov xovj gosit emm uwis qmedi epf ot e vuyod fanqtvis.

Eos ot gopi. Jewip'v puvodif epz eos qummavoup op vji dovz.

Xjip xi xisi op Idaefus, e gix ziest ehu, xi hu jov xovj vxu iesvjraelit, ecuav 2 xiilt eqesv. Jef vji caomfoph xuccmoph, moli vji guapfevoup xet kimmu. Migv dsedlt emm uwis vji xemmt.