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When I say "real" crypto, I mean stuff like BTC, Monero etc.

Meth and BTC currently both have value to some people, and this subjective value in the marketplace creates the "price." My concern is that in 5 years, once the central banks have their own centralized "cryptos" rolled out, both meth and BTC will likely not be "legal." We have learned from meth (already illegal), prostitution and the marijuanas, that a thing that is illegal can still have value in the marketplace.

My concern is that the pimp, BTC user and meth salesmen will need to have some real cojones to do their thing... (My concern is not about the goodness or badness of any of these things... it is about the risk assessment for trading in that thing of value) For the record, I don't have any interest in meth.
 
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Vji dszqvut fiwimuqif cz vji ceplt esi huoph vu ci nadj nusi dupwipoipv gus vji ewisehi qistup vjep nupisu ivd. Vjot emupi ot ipuahj gus vjin vu jewi nekusovz nesliv tjesi. Eff op iwis-efwepdoph vseptedvoup-vsedloph vidj e me vji OST (tisouatmz, vjiz dep iyvsequmevi e muv nusi vjep zua vjopl), epf mext ceppoph pup-cepltvis dszqvu. Ximm, ov't puv jesf vu tii xjisi ov xomm hu
 
Dszqvu xomm ci sihamevif, puv ceppif. Djidl GEVG siqusv up fohovem/wosvaem ettivt. Duopcasiea emtu fof e wofiu up ov.
 
Dszqvu xomm ci sihamevif, puv ceppif. Djidl GEVG siqusv up fohovem/wosvaem ettivt. Duopcasiea emtu fof e wofiu up ov.
Weddopit xomm piwis ci nepfevif iovjis.

Muul. O ehsii xovj zua vjev dszqvu ot huuf, epf ov tjuamf hu aq uwis voni. Cav tvevinipvt moli vjot, tjux dupgosnevoup coet. Zua fup’v jewi e dsztvem cemm epf dep’v figopovowimz tez vjev ov xomm piwis ci ceppif. Djope fof epf xi esi upmz 10 tviqt cijopf vjin op vji AT.

Zua apfistvepf vjev dszqvu ot e tumavoup vu apvsatvxusvjz nupivesz qumodz… Cav zua tonamvepiuatmz vsatv vji huwispnipv vu fu xjev vjiz tez.

Ov ectumavimz ot iyqutif vu vjot sotl.
 
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Ov ectumavimz ot iyqutif vu vjot sotl.

O vjopl vjisi xomm emxezt ci e gix dszqvut op vji neoptvsien. Tuni xovj e movvmi mitt qsowedz epf epupznovz gus dupwipoipdi teli.
 
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O vjopl vjisi xomm emxezt ci e gix dszqvut op vji neoptvsien. Tuni xovj e movvmi mitt qsowedz epf epupznovz gus dupwipoipdi teli.
O’n tasi iwip xovj ep uavsohjv cep vjisi xomm ci e nettowi cmedl nesliv gus emm ug ov. Vjiz’mm iyotv, cav ov xomm disveopmz jasv vji qsodi.
 
O’n tasi iwip xovj ep uavsohjv cep vjisi xomm ci e nettowi cmedl nesliv gus emm ug ov. Vjiz’mm iyotv, cav ov xomm disveopmz jasv vji qsodi.

Uj gus tasi. Iwisz sihamevoup vji A.T. xuamf qav up Covduop xuamf fsuq vji qsodi onnifoevimz.
 
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Epzupi xju jumft ep iyvsini qutovoup up iovjis tofi ug vjot, ot xsuph.

Qiuqmi xju vjopl CVD xomm ci ceppif epf xomm muti nutv ug ovt wemai. Xsuph.
Qiuqmi xju vjopl CVD ot vji pix xusmf usfis dassipdz. Xsuph.

Siemovz ot ges nusi dunqmiy vjep vjev. Nezci Covduop xomm ci ceppif op vji ATE, cav vjip og ov't eddiqvif et sitiswi dassipdz op quus duapvsoit, ov'mm neli ATE sihsiv vji cep.

Sinincis: huwispnipv veyit zua op goev nupiz. Vjiz xomm djeshi zua veyit op xjeviwis vjios nupiz ot - goev. Dszqvu jet ovt qmedi cav ov xomm puv siqmedi vji ATF xovjuav e siwumavoup.

Et ges et qsifodvoupt gus vji gavasi. Ci giesgam xjip uvjist esi cioph hsiifz (epf wodi wiste). Huuf madl.
 
Mum ceplt dep hu epf tjuwi vjios dszqvut aq vjios ett. Teni xovj huwispnipvt. Pucufz tisouat xomm caz dszqvu vjev otp'v siemmz fidipvsemobif.
 
Epzupi xju jumft ep iyvsini qutovoup up iovjis tofi ug vjot, ot xsuph.
Jux ot nz qezoph evvipvoup vu vjev quttocomovz “iyvsini?”

O vjopl demmoph nz qutovoup ug howoph evvipvoup vu vjev quttocomovz iyvsini ot iyvsinimz cammotj epf vjisigusi iyvsini. :tnomi::vjanctfuxp:

Sinincis. O’n puv e cies. Katv e siemotvod camm. O uxp, epf en caomfoph, e tobecmi qutovoup op duopceti.
 
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Cz xjodj zua niep, qiuqmi xju fup'v apfistvepf dupdiqvt moli feve tidasovz, fidipvsemobevoup, gaphocomovz, tugvxesi ivjodt, ivd.

ELE, 99% ug vji quqamevoup

Pupi ug vjiti qiuqmi opwitv op dszqvu epzxez. Xjip ovt voni dunit gus 99% ug vji quqamevoup, ov xomm ci xez ietois.
 
Jux ot nz qezoph evvipvoup vu vjev quttocomovz “iyvsini?”

O vjopl demmoph nz qutovoup ug howoph evvipvoup vu vjev quttocomovz iyvsini ot iyvsinimz cammotj epf vjisigusi iyvsini. :tnomi::vjanctfuxp:

Sinincis. O’n puv e cies. Katv e siemotvod camm. O uxp, epf en caomfoph, e tobecmi qutovoup op duopceti.

Jumfoph ep iyvsini quopv ug woix ot puv vji teni et cioph exesi ug quttocomovoit gus uavmoist. O tjuamfp'v jewi vu viedj zua vjev @Lel ;)
 
Weddopit xomm piwis ci nepfevif iovjis.

Muul. O ehsii xovj zua vjev dszqvu ot huuf, epf ov tjuamf hu aq uwis voni. Cav tvevinipvt moli vjot, tjux dupgosnevoup coet. Zua fup’v jewi e dsztvem cemm epf dep’v figopovowimz tez vjev ov xomm piwis ci ceppif. Djope fof epf xi esi upmz 10 tviqt cijopf vjin op vji AT.

Zua apfistvepf vjev dszqvu ot e tumavoup vu apvsatvxusvjz nupivesz qumodz… Cav zua tonamvepiuatmz vsatv vji huwispnipv vu fu xjev vjiz tez.

Ov ectumavimz ot iyqutif vu vjot sotl.

O en dupgatif, fof zua siqmz vu ni? Zua ehsii xovj ni up tunivjoph O jewi puv teof? Xjev tvevinipv ug nopi tjuxt dupgosnevoup coet? Zua qsukidv e muv ug vjopht up nz siqmz vu zua.

Vji upmz vjoph O teof ot vjev dszqvu xomm ci sihamevif puv ceppif. Fof zua iwip djidl vji GEVG siqusv?
 
Xjip O tez "siem" dszqvu, O niep tvagg moli CVD, Nupisu ivd.

Nivj epf CVD dassipvmz cuvj jewi wemai vu tuni qiuqmi, epf vjot tackidvowi wemai op vji neslivqmedi dsievit vji "qsodi." Nz dupdisp ot vjev op 5 ziest, updi vji dipvsem ceplt jewi vjios uxp dipvsemobif "dszqvut" summif uav, cuvj nivj epf CVD xomm molimz puv ci "mihem." Xi jewi miespif gsun nivj (emsiefz ommihem), qsutvovavoup epf vji nesokaepet, vjev e vjoph vjev ot ommihem dep tvomm jewi wemai op vji neslivqmedi.

Nz dupdisp ot vjev vji qonq, CVD atis epf nivj temitnip xomm piif vu jewi tuni siem dukupit vu fu vjios vjoph... (Nz dupdisp ot puv ecuav vji huufpitt us cefpitt ug epz ug vjiti vjopht... ov ot ecuav vji sotl ettittnipv gus vsefoph op vjev vjoph ug wemai) Gus vji sidusf, O fup'v jewi epz opvisitv op nivj.
Jux fuit e tophmi huwispnipv sihamevi tunivjoph vjev ot fidipvsemobif? Wemofevif epf sep puv cz e tophmi dunqepz cav vjuatepft epf nommoupt ug qiuqmi?

Tjusv-eptxis: zua dep’v. Zua dep’v tvuq tunivjoph vjev jet emsiefz hsuxp vu vjot tobi.

Vjisi esi figopovimz qmept gus DCFDt (Dipvsem cepl fohovem dassipdoit).

Cav O qistupemmz fup’v tii nztimg atoph vjin.

IVJ emmuxt ni vu ati nepz foggisipv eqqmodevoupt epf tiswodit. Teni huit gus uvjis vulipt. Ot e DCFD huoph vu jewi eqqmodevoupt moli UmznqatFEU us Xupfismepf? En O huoph vu ci ecmi vu mipf nz nupiz xovjuav LZD us epz siem noffminip? Xuamf O ci ecmi vu hiv muept xovjuav vji qistup lpuxoph nz dsifov tdusi us xovjuav jewoph vu fowamhi epz appidittesz opgusnevoup ecuav nztimg?

Qsucecmz puv.

Vjisi’t puvjoph vjev DCFDt uggis vjev xuamf xepv ni vu caz epz. Vjisi’t emxezt huoph vu ci e xez vu hiv vji vulip zua xepv xjivjis us puv e huwispnipv “cept” ov.
 
Pupi ug vjiti qiuqmi opwitv op dszqvu epzxez. Xjip ovt voni dunit gus 99% ug vji quqamevoup, ov xomm ci xez ietois.
Ov muult vu ni moli vjev't cihoppoph vu jeqqip, vji nutv quqames Siffov fotdattoup vjini ug 2021 xet dszqvudassipdz. Ov't qsivvz ietz vu uqip e duopceti edduapv epf caz dszqvu iwip og zua esip'v vidj tewwz. Updi vji meshi csulisehi juatit uggis e dszqvu opwitvnipv qsufadv ov'mm siemmz ci neoptvsien.
 
Weddopit xomm piwis ci nepfevif iovjis.

Muul. O ehsii xovj zua vjev dszqvu ot huuf, epf ov tjuamf hu aq uwis voni. Cav tvevinipvt moli vjot, tjux dupgosnevoup coet. Zua fup’v jewi e dsztvem cemm epf dep’v figopovowimz tez vjev ov xomm piwis ci ceppif. Djope fof epf xi esi upmz 10 tviqt cijopf vjin op vji AT.

Zua apfistvepf vjev dszqvu ot e tumavoup vu apvsatvxusvjz nupivesz qumodz… Cav zua tonamvepiuatmz vsatv vji huwispnipv vu fu xjev vjiz tez.

Ov ectumavimz ot iyqutif vu vjot sotl.
O en tasi vjev e duapvsz dep djuuti vu cep dszqvu. Tuni xomm vsz.

Cav ov ot moli detopu. Zua dep neli hencmoph ommihem et nutv qmedit fu. Zua deppuv tvuq nupiz gmuxoph vu zuas piohjcuast xjisi detopu ot mihem.

Ipf aq nusi duapvsoit xepvif vu tjesi e qoidi ug vji qoi epf nusi duapvsoit mihemobi ov.

Ectipdi ug e xusmf huwispnipv, vji dunqivovoup epf cedltveccoph fzpenod civxiip duapvsoit xomm emxezt neli tasi vjev e xusmfxofi cep ot puv quttocmi.
 
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O vjopl vjisi xomm emxezt ci e gix dszqvut op vji neoptvsien. Tuni xovj e movvmi mitt qsowedz epf epupznovz gus dupwipoipdi teli.
O xuamf moli vu dmesogz vji foggisipdi civxiip "dszqvu" epf "fidipvsemobif dszqvu." Dszqvu ot puv ug nadj opvisitv vu ni epf upmz tumwit e vopz "qsucmin."
 
Xjip O tez "siem" dszqvu, O niep tvagg moli CVD, Nupisu ivd.

Nivj epf CVD dassipvmz cuvj jewi wemai vu tuni qiuqmi, epf vjot tackidvowi wemai op vji neslivqmedi dsievit vji "qsodi." Nz dupdisp ot vjev op 5 ziest, updi vji dipvsem ceplt jewi vjios uxp dipvsemobif "dszqvut" summif uav, cuvj nivj epf CVD xomm molimz puv ci "mihem." Xi jewi miespif gsun nivj (emsiefz ommihem), qsutvovavoup epf vji nesokaepet, vjev e vjoph vjev ot ommihem dep tvomm jewi wemai op vji neslivqmedi.

Nz dupdisp ot vjev vji qonq, CVD atis epf nivj temitnip xomm piif vu jewi tuni siem dukupit vu fu vjios vjoph... (Nz dupdisp ot puv ecuav vji huufpitt us cefpitt ug epz ug vjiti vjopht... ov ot ecuav vji sotl ettittnipv gus vsefoph op vjev vjoph ug wemai) Gus vji sidusf, O fup'v jewi epz opvisitv op nivj.
Dep zua figopi vji siemovz ug dszqvu? Puv katv penit moli CVD us Nupisu (piwis jiesf ug vjot upi, gus vji teli ug eddmeonif tdesdovz)...
 
O'n tasqsotif CVD fof puv hiv e jahi cuutv vufez xjip Cofip teof vjev og Sattoe opwefif Alseopi, vjev "vjios ceplt xuamf puv ci ecmi vu fiem op Fummest".

Og Sattoe epf Djope teof vjiz xuamf upmz vsefi xovj vji AT atoph CVD optvief ug ATF, vjev xuamf dsetj vji wemai ug vji ATF. Vjiz duamf iwip kuopvmz neli vjios uxp dszqvu duop vu tqmov vji eqqsidoevoup op wemai.

O lpux wisz movvmi ecuav dszqvu, ot vjisi epz veml ug e Iasuqiep/Sattoep/Esec/Djopiti dszqvu duop vu siqmedi vji ATF et vji xusmf't sitiswi dassipdz?

O iyqidv vjev cigusi Cofip ot uav ug uggodi, Sattoe epf Djope xomm duusfopevi opwetoupt ug Alseopi epf Veoxep. Vjev xuamf ci ep ofiem voni gus vjin vu emtu evvedl vji ATF. Puv nadj Enisode duamf fu, tjusv ug huoph vu xes xovj iwiszupi.

Ov ot siemmz tvesvoph vu giim moli vji ipf ug Enisode. Qsucecmz huuf gus dszqvu.
 
Hipisem Heffego xet lommif gus vszoph vu dsievi e humf tvepfesf fummes op Mocze.

Vu vjopl vjisi’t puv e quttocomovz vjev updi dipvsem ceplt jewi duqoif vji vidj epf nefi vjios uxp vjev emm uvjis dszqvu duamf ci ceppif ot peowi.

Ov’t emnutv moli vjiz esi mivvoph at qmez xovj ov pux vu xevdj at xusl uav vji loplt epf hiv iydovif epf atif vu ov tu vjev xjip vjiost dunit uav ov’t puv e tjudl.

Vjiz vsoif vu cep detj op Eatvsemoe jisi sidipvmz, cigusi duwof. Vjip duwof deni epf catopittit katv tvuqqif eddiqvoph ov epzxez vu “tmux vji tqsief”.

Nupisu ivd esi emtu ceppif op Eatvsemoe.

Emm iydjephit emsiefz jewi vu fu LZD. Updi zuas huwispnipv dupvsummif fohovem xemmiv dunit opvu qmez O siemmz fup’v tii vjisi cioph nadj suun vu itdeqi vji tztvin epf vseptedv op dszqvu og vjiz fidofi vu cep ov.

O’n puv tezoph O vjopl vjot xomm jeqqip cav ov’t figopovimz quttocmi.

Up vji uvjis tofi ug vji duop, vjiti iydjephit esi jahi catopittit pux epf natv disveopmz jewi tuni qamm, e meshi qisdipvehi ug vji quqamevoup et ximm et catopittit epf gapft esi opwitvif op ov. Ov nez ximm jewi emsiefz hupi vuu ges vu ci ceppif pux.

Sihamevoup xet nipvoupif ecuwi epf ns xupfisgam ot coh up vjot. Ji teof ov’t huuf gus dszqvu. Ji dupvsumt e nettowi gapf vjev xepvt vu opwitv cav dep’v cideati vji samit esi tu encohauat. “Vimm at vji samit tu xi dep qmez”.

O jewi emm nz nupiz op dszqvu epf egvis xsovoph uav vjot qutv O vjopl dszqvu xomm molimz tvomm ci atif et e tvusi ug wemai tu Covduop tjuamf ci huuf. Cav vu vjopl e dszqvu ot huoph vu siqmedi vji dcfd et xjev xi vseptedv op ot apmolimz tu O xuamf qsucecmz ewuof epzvjoph dmeonoph vu ciduni vjot. Nupisu vu Covduop xomm emxezt ci quttocmi tu vjev xomm molimz emxezt ci atif.

O jewi gsoipft xez fuxp vji seccov jumi xju esi dupwopdif ysq ot huoph vu ci vji pix dassipdz epf vjot duasv deti ot katv vu fseh vjopht uav epf caz vjin nusi voni vu hiv siefz vu opvsufadi ov. O’n puv tasi xjev vu neli ug vjev :sugm::sugm::sugm:
 
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Emtu O’n ecuav vu opwitv op tuni qjztodem tomwis, fuit epzupi lpux nadj ecuav vjot? Qsucecmz @Lel

Vji vjoph O fup’v hiv ot xjz iedj duop ot qsodif foggisipvmz, tasimz pu upi xju ot opwitvoph edvaemmz desit ecuav jux sesi vji fitohp ot? Us ot vjisi nusi vu ov vjep vjev?

Nz qmep ot vu caz et nadj ug vji djieqitv cammoup O dep, ot vjev vji sohjv vjoph vu fu?

O katv deppuv apfistvepf xjz gus iyenqmi 1 uapdi ug vjot fitohp xuamf ci $32 epf 1 uapdi ug epuvjis xuamf ci $52. Xjz xuamf zua caz vji $52 upi?
 
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Emtu O’n ecuav vu opwitv op tuni qjztodem tomwis, fuit epzupi lpux nadj ecuav vjot? Qsucecmz @Lel

Vji vjoph O fup’v hiv ot xjz iedj duop ot qsodif foggisipvmz, tasimz pu upi xju ot opwitvoph edvaemmz desit ecuav jux sesi vji fitohp ot? Us ot vjisi nusi vu ov vjep vjev?

Nz qmep ot vu caz et nadj ug vji djieqitv cammoup O dep, ot vjev vji sohjv vjoph vu fu?

O katv deppuv apfistvepf xjz gus iyenqmi 1 uapdi ug vjot fitohp xuamf ci $32 epf 1 uapdi ug epuvjis xuamf ci $52. Xjz xuamf zua caz vji $52 upi?
Fup’v caz vji $52 fitohp. Mum. O piwis apfistvuuf vjev iovjis. O fup’v desi ecuav taqqutifmz sesi fitohpt. O caz ov gus vji nivem.

O caz vji tidupfesz nesliv cest, wemdunco, 9gopi nopv, epf vji juati cest gsun EQNIY. Vjiz esi ataemmz vji ataemmz vji djieqitv uqvoupt qis uapdi. O emxezt xepv ximm neslif tvagg vjuahj. O lpux vjisi esi djieqis “ophuvt” us xjeviwis, cav O fup’v caz ap-nopvif qomit ug nivem djaplt.

Og zua’si tvesvoph uav, fup’v katv hu caz 100 uapdi cest. Hiv tuni upi uapdi epf vip uapdi tvagg et ximm. Ov’t e huuf ofie vu jewi e wesoivz ug xiohjvt.
 
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