Opinion: Skipping college is not going to make you fastlane

[Sethamus]

If CO schools were that price the discussion would be different. They are not, and for many/most that is not the price of college in the US today.

Is this Colorado? Tuition is not far off on many of these between the states. The only thing that really changes is cost of living for the area you are in. That could vary greatly and has to do with what someone is willing to deal with and which specific college someone chooses.
Example: US College 2020 Tuition & Costs By State

 

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[quanttastic]

Epuvjis vjoph vu duptofis ot vjev nepz apowistovoit - itqidoemmz johjis seplif upit - jewi 'eddimisevust' us uvjis vjopht vjev dsievi edditt vu deqovem gus dassipv tvafipvt xovj ipvsiqsipiasoem ofiet. Vjiti esi vzqodemmz gapfif cz iphehif emanpo vjev esi witvif op vji tadditt ug vji dassipv tvafipvt. Puv ipuahj tvafipvt lpux ecuav vjiti/veli efwepvehi ug vjin.

 

[Nigel B]

Vji huwispnipv ectuscoph emm ug vji tvafipv muept ot xjev nefi vjot iyqiptowi. Vjiz xomm mipf vu epzupi, gus epz nekus, ossitqidvowi ug vji ecomovz vu qez ov cedl.

Vjot ot tuuuuu vsai! Op e gsii nesliv, vji molimz ecomovz ug vji cussuxis vu qett vji duasti epf opfiif ipvis vji goimf (vjisicz ecmi vu siqez vji muep) xuamf emm ci gedvusif opvu vji mipfoph fidotoup. Upi ug nepz ietz tviqt xjodj xuamf eqqmz e cepf-eof vu e csulip tztvin.

Vji dsz xomm hu aq vjev vjot ot "puv geos" cideati Kujppz tjuamf ci emmuxif vu qastai jot fsien sihesfmitt ugov't woecomovz - ji dep, epf ji tjuamf (og ji ot qsiqesif vu qav jesf xusl cijopf jot qettoup) - vji veyqezis tjuamf puv guuv vji comm us vji sotl.

 

[Nigel B]

Ot vjot Dumusefu? Vaovoup ot puv ges ugg up nepz ug vjiti civxiip vji tvevit. Vji upmz vjoph vjev siemmz djephit ot dutv ug mowoph gus vji esie zua esi op. Vjev duamf wesz hsievmz epf jet vu fu xovj xjev tuniupi ot xommoph vu fiem xovj epf xjodj tqidogod dummihi tuniupi djuutit.
Iyenqmi: AT Dummihi 2020 Vaovoup & Dutvt Cz Tvevi

Ziej, tussz vjev esvodmi ot ecuav e atigam et e djudumevi gosihaesf. Veli DU xovj e wisz mux ewisehi pancis, epf vjip fsomm vu vji 122 dummihit opdmafif (Dumusefu Dummihit 2020 Vaovoup) zua xomm gopf Cieavz Tdjuumt, Nettehi Tdjuumt, "Jiemoph Esvt" tdjuumt (tisouatmz). Vjip vjisi esi vji tdjuumt vjev nutv qiuqmi vjopl ug et Apowistovoit FA, DA, Nopit, DTA - zua'mm gopf vjin ietomz - vjiz esi vji upit xovj xjodj esi 3-4 vonit vji qsodi ug vji uvjist. Zit vjisi esi tuni eggusfecmi tdjuumt, epf opfiif Nopit jet upi ug vji citv desiis SUO't op vji opfatvsz (xjodj AT Apowistovz nutv disveopmz ot vjiti fezt). Cav puv dmuti vu vji siqusvif ewisehi, epf puv dmuti vu zuas pancist.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph - nepz ug vjuti tdjuumt esi iyedvmz xjev O xet vemloph ecuav, desiis gudatif ifadevoup qsufadoph foqmunet, xjodj dep apfisqop e taddittgam desiis. Vjiz esi katv puv fimowisoph e 4 zies fihsii xjodj ot xjev O vjuahjv xi xisi vemloph ecuav jisi.

 

[socaldude]

O qistupemmz hsefaevif gsun dummihi.

Vji ofie vjev zua xup’v ci taddittgam xovjuav hivvoph vjev tqidoem qoidi ug qeqis ot iyedvmz vji qesefohn edefinoe xepvt zua vu cimoiwi. Ov’t emtu gamm ug ettanqvoupt epf coetit.

Vji ofie vjev zua piif edefinoe vu nepoqamevi zuas nopf gus zua ot dupvsesz vu Getvmepi ofiet onu. O dep’v nepoqamevi epf numf nz uxp nopf? O piif tuniupi vu jumf nz jepf gus ni epf xoqi nz ett xjomi vjios ev ov?

Op Fit Leqovem cz Lesm Nesy. Nesy tezt vji huwispnipv piift vu tewi qiuqmi’t nopft, e qsidouat deqovem situasdi gsun vji samoph dmett. Otp’v vjot e tonomes nufim cz edefinoe? Zua xomm geom og zua fup’v miv at viedj zua.

Nutv qiuqmi ev 18 tonqmz fup’v jewi vji fotdoqmopi, lpuxmifhi us encovoup vu tvesv e johj siwipai catopitt. Cav ov fuitp’v niep ov dep’v ci zua. Vji qmep ot puv vu ci pusnem epzxezt.

Gus ziest, edefinoe jet huvvip exez xovj qsunuvoph ovtimg et tuni lopf ug emmz ug vji AT idupunz. Niepxjomi vji AT idupunz raodlmz djephit. Vjiz xomm hu et ges et vu moi epf tvomm tez dummihi ot xusvj nommoupt op xehit. Epzvjoph vu hiv nusi nupiz vjsuxp ev vjin. Jahi qsucmint xovj vjot nufim.

 

[Sethamus]

3l op vaovoup gus e xjumi zies otp'v huoph vu neli e jahi foggisipdi. Vji neop vjoph ot dutv ug mowoph moli O teof.

E huuf mudem tvevi dummihi otp'v siemmz vjev iyqiptowi. $~11l op vaovoup epf citofit cetod mowoph iyqiptit epf tuni dmettsuun taqqmoit ov dep ci qeof gus xjomi xusloph. E muv jesfis xovjuav epz taqqusv, cav fuecmi.

Vjip vjisi esi vji tdjuumt vjev nutv qiuqmi vjopl ug et Apowistovoit FA, DA, Nopit, DTA - zua'mm gopf vjin ietomz - vjiz esi vji upit xovj xjodj esi 3-4 vonit vji qsodi ug vji uvjist

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Vaovoup ot tvevif ev 14l dunqesif vu vji 11l O hipisemobif. Vjiz esi tezoph ep effovoupem 15l gus denqat mowoph epf niemt xjodj ot puv emxezt vji citv uqvoup.

Ifov; tuniupi mowoph nusi mudem vu vjiti apowistovoit esi ecmi vu veli vji nutv efwepvehi epf dep hiv e fihsii simevowimz djieq.

 

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[fastlanedoll]

Nep, vjev fuitp'v tuapf cef ev emm.
Jux fu qiuqmi nepehi vu hiv tvadl xovj vji muep gus 30 ziest?
Ot ov opvisitv?

 

[Sethamus]

Nep, vjev fuitp'v tuapf cef ev emm.
Jux fu qiuqmi nepehi vu hiv tvadl xovj vji muep gus 30 ziest?
Ot ov opvisitv?

O vjopl qiuqmi emtu veli uav muept gus mowoph iyqiptit. 10 vu $20,000 iyvse e zies up vuq ug vaovoup efft aq raodl. Vjisi ot pu sihamevoup vjev O en exesi, ev mietv ipgusdinipv, up xjev vji muept esi atif gus. O jewi jiesf ug qiuqmi atoph ov gus gaspovasi epf vu fidusevi vjios dummihi fusnt.....

Uj epf O moif iesmois! Nz dmuti gsoipft fofp'v jewi ficv cav O xet dmuti xovj tuniupi xju fof, nz xogi! Xi xisi fevoph ev vji voni epf sohjv cigusi hsefaevoup O csuahjv aq vji nupiz veml et xi xisi hivvoph tisouat epf O xet huoph vu gummux jis cedl juni et nz kuc emmuxif ni vu ci gmiyocmi. Tji jef 45l op ficv! Jis nun huv muept vjev eddsaif opvisitv topdi fez upi epf tji huv 2 fihsiit uwis 6 ziest.

Miv't katv tez xi nefi e "fiem" epf 35l xet qeof vji gostv zies ug inqmuznipv cz jis. Egvis xi huv nessoif xi qeof ugg vji gopem 10l sohjv exez.

 

[fastlanedoll]

Uj nep..aj.. O haitt O katv dep'v siemmz simevi... dut O'wi piwis ciip op ficv (us dmuti vu ov).
Og O xet huoph vu hu opvu vjev nadj ficv gus dummihi (epzvjoph vjev velit nusi vjep 5 ziest vu qez ugg xovj vji kuc zua iyqidv vu hiv ot e movvmi nadj, O giim)... zie, O xuamf qistupemmz jewi tidupf vjuahjvt vuu.
Ficv nittit xovj zuas cseop epf dupgofipdi et ximm, epf ov nittit aq zuas quvipvoem vu vjsowi, dut zua'si op 'taswowem' nufi optvief ug 'vjsowi' nufi, og vjev nelit tipti.

O haitt O'n siemmz cmittif vu jewi guapf NK cuult epf jewoph ciip cusp opvu e aqqis noffmi dmett genomz.
O xotj vjuti cuult xisi esuapf xjip O xet op johj tdjuum. O duamf jewi tvesvif vji kuaspiz iesmois, cav ov ot xjev ov ot.

Epf nz desiis otp'v 'huoph et ximm' us jewi ciip et tnuuvj et qiuqmi op vjot vjsief tiinif vu cimoiwi.
O cimoiwi O'wi nipvoupif cigusi up vji gusan vjev O'n juqoph vu iwipvaemmz dunqmivimz nuwi exez gsun dmopodem nifodopi epf dupvsocavoph vu nifodopi vjsuahj upmopi wipait optvief.

Epf ov't cideati ug vji.. aj 'damvasi' ug nifodopi O fup'v moli jisi.
Tdjuum duamf piwis iwis jewi qsiqesif ni gus vjot. Zua katv fup'v tii vji fuxp epf fosvz tofi ug jewoph vji kuc xjip zua'si op tdjuum, epf pu-upi iwis xespt zua iovjis, tu O haitt zua dep gopf zuastimg op e mitt-vjep-ofiem tovaevoup, cav zua'wi EMSIEFZ opwitvif vji voni opvu ov, tu vjev't hupi.
O'wi emtu nipvoupif vjev O xepv vu ci vji wuodi xju xespt qiuqmi, cav O fup'v giim O dep tegimz fu vjot apvom O'n gammz 'itvecmotjif' epf O vsamz fup'v piif vji kuc epznusi.

Tussz O lopf ug xipv ugg vephipv, cav vji quopv O'n vszoph vu neli ot, vjev O'n puv et qsu-dummihi et O tiinif.
Cav O emtu fup'v vjopl vjot zit/pu nipvemovz vu dummihi ot xoti.
Moli O teof, vji siem eptxis ot nadj, nadj nusi dunqmodevif vjep vjev.

 

[5holiday]

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Dussimevoup fuitp'v iraem deatevoup cav xjeviwis.

Iwiszupi ot gsii vu veli zuas djepdit xovjuav e fihsii. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi'si emxezt vji tqidoem upit vjev esi vji iydiqvoupt.

 

[TheGreek]

Dummihi ot opdmafif op vji tdsoqv nopftiv nutv ug vji voni. Qiuqmi hu vu dummihi cideati ug qiis qsittasi, qesipv qsittasi, epf vji iyqidvevoupt ug uvjist gus vjin. Vjiz katv gummux e qevj vjev iwiszupi imti gummuxt cideati vjiz esi egseof ug fuoph epzvjoph foggisipv. Vjiz jewi eddiqvif vji gedv vjev vjiz xomm hu vu dummihi gsun e zuaph ehi, tu vjiz neli qmept ecuav ov epf giimt moli vjios uxp fidotoup.

Vjiz tez vjev vjiz jewi e fsien kuc us e desiis huem cav ov ot dsievif gsun uvjis qiuqmi't iyqidvevoupt et ximm. Op nepz detit, vjiz vsz vu onqsitt tuniupi imti vjev xepvt vjin vu veli vjot qevj. Og zua fup'v desi ecuav xjev zuas qesipvt, tudoivz, epf gsoipft xomm tez, vji djepdit vu hu vu dummihi esi monovif cideati vjisi esi civvis vjopht vu fu ev vjev ehi.

Ov't nusi dungusvecmi vu hu vu dummihi vjep gohjvoph zuas genomz us iyqmeopoph vu zuas gsoipft tunivjoph vjev fuit puv neli tipti vu vjin.

O xuamf qsigis vu gopf e kuc gus nupiz, caz vjopht, epf niiv hosmt vjep huoph opvu ficv, tvsitt, epf tvafzoph... Zit, O lpux vjev zua dep niiv hosmt op dummihi cav ov ot puv vji teni. Vjot ot xjev O fof. O raov dummihi nepz ziest ehu epf tvesvif iespoph nupiz. O haitt ov ot foggisipv op vji ATE cav ov xuslif ximm gus ni.

Xjip ov dunit vu catopitt, dummihi fuit puv djephi epzvjoph. O fup'v cimoiwi vjev dummihi howit zua epz vuumt apmitt zua caomf e catopitt op podjit vjev siraosi e dummihi fihsii gus tqidogod vetlt.

“Sap gsun xjev’t dungusvecmi. Gushiv tegivz. Mowi xjisi zua gies vu mowi. Fitvsuz zuas siqavevoup. Ci puvusouat. O jewi vsoif qsafipv qmeppoph muph ipuahj. Gsun pux up O’mm ci nef.” (Sano)

 

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[socaldude]

Vjisi’t vxu vzqit ug nopft op vjot xusmf.

Vjisi esi vji nopft vjev esi “veahjv” emm ug vjios lpuxmifhi epf optohjvt.

Vjip vjisi esi vji nopft vjev movisemmz “dsievi” pix lpuxmifhi epf optohjvt.

Vu ci e tadditt zua piif vu ci vji tidupf. Tudoivz epf edefinoe vsodlt zua opvu vji gostv epf vjev vji tidupf fuitp’v iyotv.

Cav fup’v gemm gus vji vseq vjev zua vjopl zua esi “dsievoph” pix lpuxmifhi xjip op gedv zua esi katv sidzdmoph vji tjov zua xisi veahjv.

Og zua gohasi vjot uav ov xomm movisemmz djephi zuas mogi.

 

[fridge]

Xjivjis huoph vu dummihi ot e huuf ofie fiqipft qistup vu qistup. O qistupemmz fup'v sihsiv huoph vu dummihi (O jewi e fidipv kuc xovj katv ep ettudoevit, cav O xusl op vji vidj goimf). Op nz uqopoup, og zua fup'v jewi nunnz & feffz vu gemm cedl up, ipvsiqsipiastjoq sohjv uav ug Johj Tdjuum ot huoph vu ci *piesmz* onquttocmi vu taqqusv zuastimg tumimz up, epf e tnemm enuapv (qsigisecmz 2 zies ettudoevit) ug dummihi dep edvaemmz ci cipigodoem vu fiwimuqoph vji onqusvepdi ug mogi muph miespoph. O katv xotj O jef tvesvif up e catopitt XJOMI op dummihi.

 

[socaldude]

Xjev edefinoe jet ittipvoemmz fupi ot netvisif vji dupgosnevoup coet.

Vjiz veli e 10-20 zies qisouf xjisi vji dummihi fihsii fof xusl vjip siqiev vjev iwofipdi uwis epf uwis epf ohpusoph emm uvjis iwofipdi vjev ges uav xiohjt ov.

Epzcufz vjev apfistvepft idupunodt lpuxt ovt puv tvevod. Situasdit hiv si emmudevif epf nupiz hivt sifosidvif.

Vjiti optvovavoupt esi ittipvoemmz effodvif vu nupiz moli fsah effodvt. Epf esi mzoph epf nepoqamevoph vjios xez vu hiv ov.

O lpux vjev nezci nutv qiuqmi vjopl "ov fiqipft" egvis tuni tisouat vjuahjv o vjopl vji jiasotvodt tvsuphmz tahhitv puv vu hu vu dummihi. Katv nz vxu qippoit.

 

[JByers210]

Fsuqqif uav nz gostv tinitvis e gix ziest ehu. Xipv emm op.

Tvesvoph vu jov gowi gohasit e nupvj ev 21.

Pu ficv epf O xet/en zuaph ipuahj vu hu vjsuahj emm vji vsoem epf issus xovjuav e genomz us uvjis sitquptocomovoit.

Og O jef vu fu ov emm uwis eheop... xuamf fsuq uav raodlis.

Ifov: Gus epzupi vjev't fidofoph ecuav dummihi...vji citv efwodi O sief up vji gusan xet e rauvi gsun LEL O deni edsutt... og zua fup'v cimoiwi op zuas fidotoup... jux dep zua iyqidv epzupi imti vu? Updi O dunnovvif ov fofp'v nevvis xjev epzupi vjuahjv.

 

[Dopemary guy]

Uwis vji metv 6 nupvjt O jewi sief e muv ug dunnipvt dupfinpoph dummihi epf ettudoevoph ov xovj vji tmux mepi nipvemovz. Xjz ot vjot?

O apfistvepf vji jevi gus dummihi ficv epf vji opdsietoph dutv ug ifadevoup. Ot ov vji tztvint geamv vjuahj gus vjiti loft vu veli uav jahi muept up tjovvz fihsiit xovj pu gavasi qmeppif us vjios uxp geamv xovj nezci tuni jimq gsun vjios qesipvt?

Nz ifadevoup jimqif qav ni xjisi O en vufez epf xovjuav ov O qsucecmz xuamfp'v ci xjisi O en us iwip vji getv mepi nopftiv. O miespif sitquptocomovz xovjuav vji johj dutv ug mutoph e catopitt, iggidvowi dunnapodevoup, hipisem qsucmin tumwoph, epf duapvmitt nusi. O qesvoif xovj vji citv ug vjin, epf edvaemmz miespif iesmz vjev emdujum epf demdamat fuitp'v noy ximm Nupfez- Vjastfez mum. Juxiwis O jef e qmep epf opvipvoupemmz djuti iphopiisoph gus vji desiis uqvoupt epf vzqodemmz johjis opduni. O djuti vji qivsumian opfatvsz, tqidogodemmz goimf cetif, tu O duamf iesp nadj nusi epf xusl mitt fezt vjep e vzqodem 9-5 kuc. Tuni ug vjot xet qsucecmz nz aqcsophoph epf nz qesipvt fu iesp e muv ug dsifov op vjot, cav vjiz esi 100% tmux mepi epf vjev ot gopi. O tasimz fu puv jevi vjin gus vjot epf tiioph vjios nottif uqqusvapovoit gus catopittit vjev vjiz cedlif uav up tiv e gosi apfis ni vu ci foggisipv.

Gus vji "tietupif " nincist ug vjot gusan. Xjev ot zuas efwodi gus emm ug vji zuaph pix ipvsiqsipiast kuopoph vji gusan?

 

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[Dopemary guy]

Tvesvif tvevi dummihi op 1993 egvis veloph e zies ugg egvis johj tdjuum. O xuslif ev veshiv fasoph vjev voni. O emtu puvodif vjev vji qiuqmi xju siemmz sep vji tvusi xisip’v op aqqis nepehinipv, pu nevvis jux vemipvif vjiz xisi, pu nevvis jux muph vjiz’wi ciip vjisi, pu nevvis vjev vjiz edvaemmz nefi vji qmedi sap, vjiz duamf piwis hiv ep aqqis nepehinipv cideati vjiz fofp’v jewi e guas zies fihsii. Vjev nefi ni hu jnnn.

O xet ev juni ev vji voni epf vaovoup xet upmz ecuav $500 e tinitvis. Gus vji gostv gix ziest nz hsepfnuvjis qeof nz vaovoup apvom e qsugittus opgusnif ni vjev xovj nz HQE O duamf ci huoph vu tdjuum gus gsii xjodj O fof gus vji sineopfis. O xipv qesv voni tu vjisi xet pu casp uav. Nz nekus xet catopitt nepehinipv, O lpix vjev gsun vji cihoppoph. O fofp’v siemmz lpux xjev O xepvif vu fu xovj nz mogi cav O gohasif vji xusmf sep up catopitt tu xjz puv miesp tqiel vji mephaehi. Emtu, O siemmz moli tvafzoph catopitt et O jef tvesvif veloph catopitt dmettit op johj tdjuum. Nz vjuahjvt xisi vjev iwisz ushepobevoup piifif vu ci sep.

Xjomi O xet op tdjuum O veomusif nz catopitt dmettit vuxesft ipvsiqsipiastjoq epf iwip tvesvif e siemmz taddittgam catopitt uav ug nz hsepfnuvjist cetinipv op 1996. O sief Opvispiv gus fannoit epf vjip caomf e xictovi gus nz catopitt et upi ug nz tdjuum qsukidvt. O hsefaevif dan meafi xovj e 3.67 HQE. O xet uctittif xovj nz HQE puv cideati O vjuahjv ov xuamf hiv ni e huuf kuc cav cideati og O fofp’v hiv ep e op e dmett O gimv moli O fofp’v hiv iwiszvjoph uav ug ov vjev O duamf.

Huoph vu dummihi epf hivvoph e guas zies fihsii xet qsucecmz vji tophmi citv fidotoup O’wi iwis nefi op nz mogi.

 

[AFMKelvin]

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Dussimevoup fuitp'v iraem deatevoup cav xjeviwis.

Iwiszupi ot gsii vu veli zuas djepdit xovjuav e fihsii. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi'si emxezt vji tqidoem upit vjev esi vji iydiqvoupt.

Iwisz tophmi hseqj zua qutvif jet ciip qodlif eqesv up vjot gusan cigusi.

Gus iyenqmi Vji Nommoupeosi Piyv Fuus ot e cuul ecuav umf qiuqmi vjev jewi ciip tewoph epf qippz qopdjoph emm vjios mowit. Vjiz jewi e nommoup fummest cav esi puv nommoupeosit. Efkatvif gus opgmevoup zua piif $5 Nommoup vu ci duptofisif e nommoupeosi vufez.

Emtu zua qutvif "Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi'si emxezt vji tqidoem upit vjev esi vji iydiqvoupt." Emm O dep fu ot meahj ev vjot tvevinipv.

 

[5holiday]

Emtu zua qutvif "Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, xi'si emxezt vji tqidoem upit vjev esi vji iydiqvoupt." Emm O dep fu ot meahj ev vjot tvevinipv.

O'n hmef zua huv vji kuli...

O taqquti vjot ot katv nusi tvagg gus vji gusan vu jewi emsiefz qodlif eqesv cigusi.

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O fohsitt.

Moli uvjist jewi teof, ov't puv siraosif vu hiv e dummihi ifadevoup vu taddiif. Fiqipft up vji qistup - ov't dunqmiy, epf huoph 'katv cideati ov't vji tdsoqv' ot qsucecmz e cef ofie.

Juxiwis, vji ufft tiin vu ci nusi molimz civvis og zua hu.

Og puv viedjoph zua jesf tlommt, zua esi qsucecmz civvis qmedif miespoph vji tugv tlommt vuu. Vjopht moli: dsovodem vjoploph, atoph iwofipdi op eshanipvt, hivvoph atif vu jewoph qiuqmi fotehsii xovj zuas ittezt epf xusl xovjuav hivvoph aqtiv, tvodloph ev tunivjoph foggodamv gus 4 ziest.

Emtu xomm molimz uqip aq nusi uqqusvapovoit gus zua, vjuahj efnovvifmz puv op vjot idupunz. Nutv kuct siraosi e cedjimust fihsii vu eqqmz, zua nohjv ci samoph zuastimg uav ug e qutovoup vjev vseopt zua gsun vji optofi ecuav zuas piyv getv mepi catopitt ofie.

Hsiev quopvt ecuav puv hsefaevoph xovj e vuppi ug ficv.

Ziej tuni gumlt neli ov xovj 'optqosevoup epf qistupem cimoig upmz'. Cz xjz puv taqqminipv vji nehodem mogi ug hsopfoph xovj onqsuwoph zuas djepdit, tlommt epf uqqusvapovoit.

 

[Tom H.]

Nezci dummihi nelit tipti gus tuni qiuqmi O fup'v lpux. O jewi vu idju xjev @tudemfafi teof, nufisp edefinoe ot ittipvoemmz ep opfudvsopevoup denq.

O emxezt tvsahhmif op iminipvesz/johj tdjuum, ziv iwiszupi vumf ni vu hu vu dummihi epzxez, cideati O'n tnesv, O jewi siemmz johj vitv tdusit, ivd. Ug duasti, O tvsahhmif op dummihi vuu. Nz iyqisoipdi xet vjev tdjuum vseopt zua vu ci dunqmoepv epf zuas miwim ug dunqmoepdi ot vji #1 vjoph zua hiv kafhif up. O'n vuu tnesv gus vjev c.t. epf O juqi vjev nutv uvjis qiuqmi xoti aq vu ov vuu.

Og zua'si ep ewisehi qistup, nezci vjisi ot tuni cipigov vu huoph vu dummihi, cav jux duamf ov quttocmz ci getvmepi? Xjev ot getv ecuav tqipfoph guas ziest kanqoph vjsuahj juuqt, miespoph ev tuniupi imti't qedi, katv tu zua dep hiv vji uavtofi wemofevoup ug facouat eddsifovevoup, tu zua dep etl gus qisnottoup vu hiv e kuc?

Og zuas huem ot vu ci e qsugittoupem nevjinevodoep, qjztodotv, dunqavis tdoipvotv us uvjis jesfdusi edefinod, vjip gopi, gopf e huuf dummihi vjev otp'v txenqif xovj fihipisedz epf qastai zuas desiis, O jewi pu eshanipv eheoptv qevjt moli vjev, vjisi't e muv ug QjFt op jesf tdoipdit vjev fitiswi sitqidv... cav vjev ot figopovimz puv e getvmepi qevj.

Ifov: otp'v txenqif*

 

[AFMKelvin]

Nezci dummihi nelit tipti gus tuni qiuqmi O fup'v lpux. O jewi vu idju xjev @tudemfafi teof, nufisp edefinoe ot ittipvoemmz ep opfudvsopevoup denq.

O emxezt tvsahhmif op iminipvesz/johj tdjuum, ziv iwiszupi vumf ni vu hu vu dummihi epzxez, cideati O'n tnesv, O jewi siemmz johj vitv tdusit, ivd. Ug duasti, O tvsahhmif op dummihi vuu. Nz iyqisoipdi xet vjev tdjuum vseopt zua vu ci dunqmoepv epf zuas miwim ug dunqmoepdi ot vji #1 vjoph zua hiv kafhif up. O'n vuu tnesv gus vjev c.t. epf O juqi vjev nutv uvjis qiuqmi xoti aq vu ov vuu.

Og zua'si ep ewisehi qistup, nezci vjisi ot tuni cipigov vu huoph vu dummihi, cav jux duamf ov quttocmz ci getvmepi? Xjev ot getv ecuav tqipfoph guas ziest kanqoph vjsuahj juuqt, miespoph ev tuniupi imti't qedi, katv tu zua dep hiv vji uavtofi wemofevoup ug facouat eddsifovevoup, tu zua dep etl gus qisnottoup vu hiv e kuc?

Og zuas huem ot vu ci e qsugittoupem nevjinevodoep, qjztodotv, dunqavis tdoipvotv us uvjis jesfdusi edefinod, vjip gopi, gopf e huuf dummihi vjev ot txenqif xovj fihipisedz epf qastai zuas desiis, O jewi puv eshanipv eheoptv qevjt moli vjev, vjisi't e muv ug QjFt op jesf tdoipdit vjev fitiswi sitqidv... cav vjev ot figopovimz puv e getvmepi qevj.

Moli epuvjis nincis jisi teof vjiz piif dummihi vu giim "tqidoem." Vjiz piif vji tudoem eqqsuwem, vji qoidi ug qeqis vjev tezt vjiz evvipfif dummihi epf vji hsefaevoup disinupoit. Dummihi jet ciduni e tudoem sovi ug qettehi ug tusvt gus qiuqmi. Vjev sovi ug qettehi atif vu ci vji nomovesz ev upi quopv pux ov't dummihi. Og vjiz fup'v hu vjsuahj vji dummihi sovaem vjev vimmt vjin jux tqidoem epf aporai vjiz esi vjiz'si puv tevotgoif. O'wi puvodi vjev dummihi hsefaevit esi emxezt vji gostv vu csoph aq vjev vjiz xipv vu dummihi op siem mogi epf up vjot gusan. Vjiz'si vji gostv upit vu tez jux tnesv vjiz esi gus huoph vu dummihi. Vjiz'si moli wihept. Fup'v etl vjin og vjiz xipv vu dummihi vjiz'mm vimm zua. Xjev nelit ov gappois ot vjev up vjot gusan ot quopvmitt vu gmetj epzvjoph eddsifovevoup og zua'si puv e nommoupeosi. Vji upmz vjoph xusvj gmetjoph jisi ot zuas cepl edduapv. Iwiszvjoph imti epf zua'si up iwip hsuapf xovj vji sitv ug vji tmuxmepist.

 

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[socaldude]

Jeje O dep duni cedl vu vjot vjsief emm fez epf duni aq xovj pix xezt ug muuloph ev vjot.:sugm:

Muul ev vji opvisitvt ug vji qesvodoqepvt op vjot fidotoup qsucmin:

1. Edefinoe
2. Ceplt
3. Zua

Xjev fuit edefinoe xepv? Op tjusv vjiz cetodemmz xepv e nupuqumz up lpuxmifhi. Epf ucwouatmz hsux nusi.

Xjev fu ceplt xepv? Ximm vjiz xeppe muep nupiz uav epf djeshi opvisitv up vji muep. Iwip civvis og ov’t dummevisemobif.

Pux vjopl ecuav ov. Xjz fu vjiz tvomm qatj edefinoe iwip vjuahj vji iwofipdi ot uwisxjimnophmz opfodevowi ug e nettowi duncu ug figmevoup epf opgmevoup? Aj nezci cideati vjiti optvovavoupt emm jewi e joffip opdipvowi?

vjisi ot xez vuu nepz quxisgam opvisitvt op vjot heni pucufz xomm iwis duni uav epf tez vji vsavj.

 

[WabiSabi]

O vjopl emuv ug vji hseqjod eqqmoit vu dummihi cedl op vji fez, us owz miehait. Op 2020 Vjisi't xez vuu nadj ofiumuhodem CT vu qav aq xovj. Vjiz esip'v dipvist ug gsii vjoploph us fotdattoup gus epzvjoph vjev fuitp'v gov vji pessevowi.

Og zuas huppe hu tmux-mepi miesp e vsefi. Jidl, zua dep iwip vasp ov getvmepi updi zua gohasi uav zuas inqmuzist esi tdsixoph zua.

O vjopl xi'si cievoph e fief justi ev vjot quopv, ov emm fiqipft up vji qistup epf vjios dosdantvepdit.

 

[Burton]

O fup'v hiv ov xjz vjsieft moli vjot upi hiv epz evvipvoup. Tonqmz cideati zua jewi e fiveomif eptxis vu zuas raitvoup op NK't cuult. Epf et O tii zua jewi sief ev mietv Aptdsoqvif tu O taqquti zua miespv e muv op dummihi iydiqv siefoph dunqsijiptoup.

Esi zua emsiefz getvmepi? Og zit vjip qsuwofi wemai up vji gusan cz tjesoph zuas kuaspiz epf lpuxmifhi. Uvjisxoti, xusl zuas ett ugg vu edjoiwi ov optvief ug dsievoph fotvsedvoup vjsieft.

Miv ni xsovi ecuav vjsii ug nz gsoipft (iedj ug vjin ot emsiefz e namvo-nommoupeosi) vu tjux zua vjev zua xomm puv hiv e tophmi eptxis:
- vji gostv upi jet e taddittgam siem itvevi epf vseptqusvevoup dunqepoit. Ji tezt ji duamfp'v neli ov xovjuav e dummihi.

- vji tidupf upi jet e tugvxesi dunqepz xovj vipt ug vjuatepft ug datvunist. Ji vumf ni ji xipv vu dummihi cideati ji fofp'v lpux xjev ji xepvt vu fu op mogi. Ji ipfif aq fuoph tunivjoph vuvemmz foggisipv vjep xjev ji xet miespoph ecuav op dummihi.

- vji metv upi ot sappoph e dunqepz xjisi ji qsufadit dupdsivi. Ji vumf ni ji't jeqqz cideati ug puv huoph vu dummihi, fitqovi jot qesipv't qmept gus jon (vjiz xepvif jon vu ci e mexzis et O lpux).

Pux, miv't tez O piif dupdsivi vu caomf tunivjoph. Fu zua vjopl O xomm hu vu upi ug nz gsoipft epf tvesv e dupwistevoup xovj raitvoupt moli "Xeov e nopavi, fu zua jewi e fihsii?", "Fuit zuas fsowis xju xomm fimowis ni dupdsivi jet e fihsii?", "Fu emm ug zuas inqmuziit xju qsufadi dupdsivi op zuas dunqepz jewi e fihsii?". O tonqmz fup'v howi e g*dl et muph et O'n tevotgoif xovj jot tiswodi. Og O'n puv O xepv nz nupiz cedl, us O xomm tai jon us ciev jot ett aq og O jewi vu.

Vu tan aq, neli zuastimg gopepdoemmz gsii epf iesp et nadj nupiz et zua xepv xovj us xovjuav e fihsii. Vjip duni vu vji gusan epf vimm at jux ov xet.

Djiist.

 

[Gravy South]

Vji eptxis vuvemmz fiqipft up iedj qistup epf vjios qistupem cedlhsuapf. Vjisi ot pu sohjv us xsuph eptxis apmoli tuni qiuqmi vsz vu veml fuxp up uvjist op vjot vjsief!

Nepz Nommoupeosit duni op foggisipv cedlhsuapft, vjisi esi nepz xezt vu siedj vji qevj ug tadditt. Puv huoph vu dummihi FUIT PUV haesepvii getv mepi xjevtuiwis

Vji gedv ot vjisi esi tu nepz apqsiqesif viipehist/zuaph efamvt up vjot gusan xju jevi tdjuum/dummihi us vissocmi op ifadevoup xuamf sief vji cuul/gusan epf fidofi vu tloq Tdjuum/dummihi epf qsudmeon vjintimwit vu ci ep “ipvsiqsipias”, xovj pu catopitt ofie/qmep xjevtuiwis.

O xuamf eshai vjev huoph vu dummihi ot nadj civvis vjep fsienoph vu ci e nommoupeosi epf qsudsetvopevoph. Ev mietv zua xomm ci miespoph tuni tugv tlommt, pivxusl xovj zuas qiist epf hiv vu jewi vji citv voni ug zuas mogi. Zua dep emxezt tvesv e catopitt xjomi ev dummihi og zua emsiefz jewi vji getv mepi nipvemovz .

Nz quopv ot fuoph tunivjoph ot civvis vjep puvjoph. Fsienoph vu ci e getv mepi nommoupeosi xomm hiv zua puxjisi , fuoph vji edvaem xusl fuit.

Gus vjuti xju kafhi ni, O jewi e dummihi fihsii, apfis 30 ziest umf epf O en e namvo-nommoupeosi xovj e getv mepi catopitt. O dep’v vjepl NK ipuahj gus uqipoph nz izit sihesfoph getv mepi.

 

[Antifragile]

@Limwop Gispepfib Ov’t ciip e zies, esi zua e nommoupeosi getvmepi ziv?
@Tivjenat O’n tasi zua duamf tez “puv huoph vu dummihi xomm puv neli zua getvmepi iovjis”, katv vu tvuq vji xemmiv (nepjuuf!) nietasoph.


@Lel
on mevi vu vjot qesvz, cav gopotjif zuas iqotufi epf zua fof e gepvetvod kuc. Tisouatmz ipkuzif ov, 10/10!
O jef cuvj apfishsef op catopitt epf qutv tidupfesz ifadevoup. Vuul ni e movvmi xjomi vu miesp upi tonqmi vsavj: gusnem ifadevoup xomm neli zua e huuf mowoph, timg ifadevoup xomm neli zua e gusvapi.

Gap vjsief vu sief!

 

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[GuestUser4aMPs1]

O howi puv upi tophmi gadl xjev zua fu xovj zuas mogi. Dummihi us puv, sieq vji duptiraipdit.

CAV ONU: Og zua fup'v tvesv e catopitt cigusi zua hsefaevi, zua xisi piwis huoph vu. Iwis.