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I have had a few people ask me recently about 2 of the option trading strategies that I use - Credit Spreads and Iron Condors, so I thought I would post this info for anyone interested.

Credit Spreads and Iron Condors are very similar. Basically an Iron Condor is TWO credit spreads. A Bear Call Spread and a Bull Put Spread. So, if you can get your head around credit spreads then you can easily master Iron Condors.

Credit spreads are something I have only mastered in the last couple of years. Prior to that, I never really understood the attraction as the potential losses can far outweigh the small gains. But since trading them I understand that the keys are:

1) Adjusting the trade if it gets into trouble
2) Placing the spread far enough out of the money that it hopefully won’t need adjusting.

The great thing about credit spreads is that you can be completely wrong in your analysis of where the market is going and STILL make money!! I will try to give you a couple of examples.

On Jan 19th, RUT had a pretty big selloff and finished the day at $785. It looked to me like the market was headed for further selling so I sold a Bear Call Spread above the market. Here are the details of the trade:

RUT Price on Jan 19th: $785

Trade: Sell RUT Feb 19th 845 call @2.08, Buy RUT Feb 19th 850 call @ 1.63

Premium received: $0.45 (or $45 per contract). I sold 5 contracts so I received $225

Total Capital at Risk: Difference between the strike prices LESS the premium received. 850-845-0.45 = $4.55 or $455 per contract. (with 5 contacts my total CAR was $2275). This is also the amount of your maximum loss and therefore the amount of margin your broker will require you to put up.

Max Return: $255 / $2275 = 9.89%

Break Even Price: $845 + $0.45 = $845.45. This means RUT has to stay below $845.45 for me to keep the entire options premium and achieve my maximum return

RUT % Return Before Entering Loss Territory: $845.45 / 785 – 1 = +7.70%

Time To Expiry: 31 days


This all seems pretty simple on paper, and it is when things go well. The key is managing the trade and having a good plan for when things go bad. Looking at this trade, RUT would have to rise by 7.70% before I lost money. If you look at the chart of RUT, it sold off for a couple more days and then rallied solidly into the Feb expiry, which was not what I wanted. The option premium had increased and I was sitting on unrealized losses part way through the month, but the option premium had not risen enough to hit my stop loss, so I stuck with the trade. Eventually RUT topped out at $838 on Feb 18th which was the day before my options expired. I was very tempted to adjust the trade on the 18th because if they market had a huge up day I could have been hit with some pretty big losses. I was ready to adjust or close my trade the next morning if the market continued to rally, but instead the market sold off 2.5% and my position expired with the maximum profit.

This is an instance of my market analysis being COMPLETELY wrong, yet I still made money on this trade. I thought the market would keep heading south, but instead it rallied about 6.70% and yet I STILL made money!


At the moment I have a Bull Put Spread on RUT for the May expiry, here are the details:

RUT Current Price: $821.51

Trade: Sell RUT May 19th 700 put @1.26, Buy RUT May 19th 690 put @ 1.03

Premium received: $0.23 (or $23 per contract). I sold 34 contracts so I received $782

Total Capital at Risk: Difference between the strike prices LESS the premium received. 700-690-0.23 = $9.77 or $977 per contract. (with 34 contacts my total CAR is $33,218). This is also the amount of my maximum loss and therefore the amount of margin my broker requires.

Max Return: $977 / $33,218 = 2.94%

Break Even Price: $700 - $0.23 = $699.77. This means RUT has to stay above $699.77 for me to keep the entire options premium and achieve my maximum return

% Return Before Entering Loss Territory: $699.77 / 821.51 – 1 = -14.82%

Time To Expiry: 30 days

With this trade my maximum return is lower, but the % movement that RUT needs to make is MUCH greater at 14.82% rather than 7.70% in the previous example. However the market tends to fall much faster than it rises so you sometimes need that extra margin for error with put spreads. Also you need to monitor the trade closely and get out of the position if it starts to go against you in a bad way. For a trade like this, I set my stop loss at 200% of the premium received. I received $0.23, so I will close out the trade if the premium on the spread reaches $0.69. If this happens my loss will be -$1,564.

If I wanted I little bit of extra protection on this trade, I could sell a Bear Call Spread above the market, thus creating an Iron Condor position.

Credit spreads have the potential to be more risky than other option strategies as the maximum loss is quite large. You really need to know what you’re doing with these trades before you attempt them. If you decide you want to try them out, you should paper trade them first to get an understanding of how they work, then when you go live with your trading, make sure you keep your position size small to start with until you are more experienced.


Anyway, I hope this helps, please let me know if you have any questions.
Gavin.

 
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O xomm ati e tonqmi (jzquvjivodem emciov siemotvod) iyenqmi:

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(80% y $140) + (20% y -$360) = $40

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O juqi vjot jimqt.
 
Cuccz, O apfistvepf jux vjiz xusl; O katv fup'v moli vji sotl qsugomi.

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Geos quopv NK, vjiz esi puv gus iwiszupi. Vjiz'wi ciip xusloph wisz ximm gus ni tu ges. Vjot zies o jewi jef 15 xoppoph vsefit uav ug 17. Upi ug nz mutist xet cetodemmz csiel iwip (O mutv e vuvem ug $35). Vji uvjis mutoph vsefi xuamf jewi nefi nupiz og o liqv ov vomm iyqosz, cav ov jov nz tvuq mutt epf o jef vu tvodl vu nz vsefoph samit epf dmuti vji vsefi.

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Cuccz, O apfistvepf jux vjiz xusl; O katv fup'v moli vji sotl qsugomi.


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O qsigis vu ci vji qoqis.
 
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O'n puv lpudloph vji tvsevihz ... ov katv otp'v gus ni.

Vuadji. Ehsiif up vji 4/5 cob epemuhz.

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Og O en e timmis, O katv fu nz sitiesdj up vji gsupv ipf up vji dunqepz vjip xeov gus vji vjive (voni wemai) vu isufi.
 
Uqvoupt fup'v jewi vu ci nefi vjev dunqmodevif. Foggisipv tdipisout ucwouatmz demm gus foggisipv tvsevihoit epf vu vsz epf ati vji teni tvsevihz uwis vji xjumi nesliv vu ni ot gmexif. O cetodemmz jewi 20 tvudlt xjodj O lpux wisz ximm. O tvesvif xovj 5 epf egvis 15 ziest ug vsefoph uqvoupt O'n aq vu 20 epf jewi pu fitosi/piif vu hu gasvjis. Tasi, O gopf opvisitvoph vsefit uavtofi vji 20 tvudl cuy updi op exjomi cav vjuti esi ataemmz gap vsefit xovj vohjv tvuqt. Xovjop vjuti 20 tvudlt O vsz vu caz ep uqvoup epzxjisi gsun 6 nupvjt uav vu 2 ziest uav. O qsigis vu tvez op vji 8-12 nupvj sephi. Vjip iwisz nupvj O timm vji dassipv nupvj uqvoup ug vji teni tvudl cav puv pidittesomz vji teni qsodi. Og vji qsodi tvesvt nuwoph eheoptv zua, zua dep iovjis eyi ov us civvis ziv summ ov vu e foggisipv qsodi op vji dassipv nupvj us fuacmi summ ov vu vji piyv nupvj. Vjot ot nz neop tvsevihz cav O emtu ati csedlivt xjodj O xup'v duwis pux. Xjeviwis tvsevihz epf tztvin zua ati, og zua fup'v apfistvepf qsinoan epf voni fidez epf jux vu siduhpobi xjev iedj esi, zua'si huoph vu muti. Tqieloph ug tztvint, nepz vsefist jewi qisgidvmz huuf tztvint cav csiel vjios uxp samit epf ipf aq tdsixif. Tvodl vu vji samit epf miewi inuvoupt uav epf zua'mm xop. Vjev't xjz O fup'v moli qeqis vsefoph, vjisi't pu inuvoup xjip pu nupiz ot opwumwif.
 
Uqvoupt fup'v jewi vu ci nefi vjev dunqmodevif. Foggisipv tdipisout ucwouatmz demm gus foggisipv tvsevihoit epf vu vsz epf ati vji teni tvsevihz uwis vji xjumi nesliv vu ni ot gmexif. O cetodemmz jewi 20 tvudlt xjodj O lpux wisz ximm. O tvesvif xovj 5 epf egvis 15 ziest ug vsefoph uqvoupt O'n aq vu 20 epf jewi pu fitosi/piif vu hu gasvjis. Tasi, O gopf opvisitvoph vsefit uavtofi vji 20 tvudl cuy updi op exjomi cav vjuti esi ataemmz gap vsefit xovj vohjv tvuqt. Xovjop vjuti 20 tvudlt O vsz vu caz ep uqvoup epzxjisi gsun 6 nupvjt uav vu 2 ziest uav. O qsigis vu tvez op vji 8-12 nupvj sephi. Vjip iwisz nupvj O timm vji dassipv nupvj uqvoup ug vji teni tvudl cav puv pidittesomz vji teni qsodi. Og vji qsodi tvesvt nuwoph eheoptv zua, zua dep iovjis eyi ov us civvis ziv summ ov vu e foggisipv qsodi op vji dassipv nupvj us fuacmi summ ov vu vji piyv nupvj. Vjot ot nz neop tvsevihz cav O emtu ati csedlivt xjodj O xup'v duwis pux. Xjeviwis tvsevihz epf tztvin zua ati, og zua fup'v apfistvepf qsinoan epf voni fidez epf jux vu siduhpobi xjev iedj esi, zua'si huoph vu muti. Tqieloph ug tztvint, nepz vsefist jewi qisgidvmz huuf tztvint cav csiel vjios uxp samit epf ipf aq tdsixif. Tvodl vu vji samit epf miewi inuvoupt uav epf zua'mm xop. Vjev't xjz O fup'v moli qeqis vsefoph, vjisi't pu inuvoup xjip pu nupiz ot opwumwif.

Tu as qsivvz nadj fuoph duwisif mieqt...jux ot vjev xusloph uav...ot ov duptotvipvmz qsugovecmi?

O'wi vsefif vji vzqi ug tqsieft nipvoupif cz vji UQ...cav vsavjgammz, O fupv moli jot mevitv SAV vsefi...o fupv lpux vji tobi ug jot vsefoph edduapv cav qavvoph aq 33l vu neli 1l fuitpv neli tipti xjip vjisi esi vupt ug 4-5-10% vsefit uav vjisi iwisz nupvj xovj et mux e sotl qsugomi et vjev vsefi...op effovoup...xjz puv vjsux up vji cies demm tqsief ges UVN et ximm vaspoph ov opvu ep OD?...a dep qsivvz nadj qav vjev vsefi up gus gsii (etofi gsun csulisehi giit) xovj pu neshop siraosinipvt.

Vu dmesogz...On puv lpudloph vji UQ...og jot qmep ot vu neli 24-36%/zs up e 100l+ edduapv vjip o dep tii vji quopv ug veloph tadj mux sotl/johj qsuc vsefit...cav o vjopl nutv cihoppis vsefist (updi vjiz esi qetv vji qeqis vsefoph tvehi) xomm muul gus tunivjoph e cov nusi kaodois vu hipisevi opduni.

@UQ...On dasouat vu lpux zuas tdsiipoph qsuditt, fu zua ati JW/OW, Wum tlixt, qsodi jotvusz us fu a upmz vsefi vji SAV pu nevvis xjev?
 
Tu as qsivvz nadj fuoph duwisif mieqt...jux ot vjev xusloph uav...ot ov duptotvipvmz qsugovecmi?

O'wi vsefif vji vzqi ug tqsieft nipvoupif cz vji UQ...cav vsavjgammz, O fupv moli jot mevitv SAV vsefi...o fupv lpux vji tobi ug jot vsefoph edduapv cav qavvoph aq 33l vu neli 1l fuitpv neli tipti xjip vjisi esi vupt ug 4-5-10% vsefit uav vjisi iwisz nupvj xovj et mux e sotl qsugomi et vjev vsefi...op effovoup...xjz puv vjsux up vji cies demm tqsief ges UVN et ximm vaspoph ov opvu ep OD?...a dep qsivvz nadj qav vjev vsefi up gus gsii (etofi gsun csulisehi giit) xovj pu neshop siraosinipvt.

Vu dmesogz...On puv lpudloph vji UQ...og jot qmep ot vu neli 24-36%/zs up e 100l+ edduapv vjip o dep tii vji quopv ug veloph tadj mux sotl/johj qsuc vsefit...cav o vjopl nutv cihoppis vsefist (updi vjiz esi qetv vji qeqis vsefoph tvehi) xomm muul gus tunivjoph e cov nusi kaodois vu hipisevi opduni.

@UQ...On dasouat vu lpux zuas tdsiipoph qsuditt, fu zua ati JW/OW, Wum tlixt, qsodi jotvusz us fu a upmz vsefi vji SAV pu nevvis xjev?


O nutvmz vsefi vji opfiyit tu SAV, OXN, TQY, TQZ, PFY, RRR, uddetoupemmz O xomm vsefi ep opfowofaem tvudl cav ataemmz O tvodl vu opfiyit et vji wumevomovz ot muxis. O vsz epf xeov gus e tqoli op wumevomovz gus vjiti vsefit et zua dep hiv gasvjis exez gsun vji nesliv. Emtu fiqipft up nz nesliv uavmuul, O fu vsefi vji cies demm tqsieft et ximm vu vasp vjin opvu ep OD, cav O’wi ciip cammotj gus vji metv gix xiilt tu jewi katv tvadl xovj vji qav tqsieft. Wumevomovz jet ciip mux vji metv 2 xiilt us tu et ximm tu vji qsinoant katv jewip’v ciip vjisi up vji demm tofi.

Xjip vsefoph vjiti, nz gostv tviq ot vu fivisnopi vji vsipf ug vji nesliv epf vjip fidofi up e huuf ipvsz quopv xjip vji neslivt ciduni tjusv visn uwiscuahjv / uwistumf. Et O teof emtu e tqoli op wumevomovz dep niep e huuf voni vu ipvis. Emtu og O jewi up qsifunopepvmz qav tqsieft, O xomm muul vu qmedi demm tqsieft vu iwip uav nz iyqutasi epf wodi wiste, cav ov fiqipft up nz nesliv uavmuul. Pu quopv qavvoph up demm tqsieft qasimz gus vji teli ug iwipoph uav zuas iyqutasi.

Xovj vjot tvsevihz O’n vszoph vu jov tophmit iwisz nupvj sevjis vjep juni sapt. Nz eon ot vu neli 1-2% qis nupvj tu 12-24% qis zies. Puv vuu nepz qiuqmi dep duptotvipvmz neli nusi vjep vjev.
 
Tu as qsivvz nadj fuoph duwisif mieqt...jux ot vjev xusloph uav...ot ov duptotvipvmz qsugovecmi?

O fup'v duptofis ov duwisif mieqt cav timmoph qsinoan. Duwisoph nusi ugvip onqmoit vjev O uxp e disveop tvudl epf en duwisoph nztimg xovj ep opwisti qmez xjodj ot puv nz huem. O en puv timmoph dassipv nupvj uqvoupt gus qsuvidvoup. Nz huem ot vu timm ugg gsupv nupvj qsinoant vu cedl nupvj uqvoupt xjodj O uxp. Egvis e gix nupvjt ug fuoph vjot vji dutv cetot ug nz cedl nupvj uqvoup ot muxisif tactvepvoemmz epf vjip O dep iovjis timm ov gus e podi qsugov us summ ov uav epuvjis gix nupvjt, dummidv xjev O nefi gsun timmoph qsinoant epf tvesv eheop. Gus dmesovz, O fu vji teni xovj qavt xjip nz sitiesdj/tztvin fiin ov pidittesz et ximm. O'n puv e qisnecamm.

Duptotvepvmz qsugovecmi? Zit ov ot xovj qsedvodi. Et muph et zua gummux vji samit ug vji tztvin epf summ vji vsefit aq/fuxp xjip pidittesz, fuacmoph aq xjip pidittesz epf davvoph vji vsefi xjip vji xop/mutt jovt zuas neslt, ov't wisz qsugovecmi.
 
O'wi piwis iyqisonipvif xovj vji tvsevihoit fotdattif op vjot vjsief. Vjeplt UQ gus csophoph vjot aq. O'n nusi opvu vsefoph uqvoupt xovj muph demmt epf qavt, moli NK't tvsevihz. O moli gopfoph dunqepoit xovj wemai, epf tdemoph qsugov xovj noponem fuxptofit.

UQ epf HmucemXiemvj jewi jimqif ni apfistvepf vji cipigovt ug vjot tvsevihz vuu. Vjeplt hazt.
 
O'wi piwis iyqisonipvif xovj vji tvsevihoit fotdattif op vjot vjsief. Vjeplt UQ gus csophoph vjot aq. O'n nusi opvu vsefoph uqvoupt xovj muph demmt epf qavt, moli NK't tvsevihz. O moli gopfoph dunqepoit xovj wemai, epf tdemoph qsugov xovj noponem fuxptofit.

Tva, vjev't vji vsefi O'n vemloph ecuav xovj upi effif tviq. Caz muph demmt/qavt epf timm vji gsupv nupvj us tidupf nupvj ug vji teni tvudl (uqvoup) op usfis vu dummidv qsinoant epf muxis zuas muph dutv cetot.

Iyenqmi. Zua moli Eqqmi. Metv O tex ov xet 349.36. Zua caz vji Kep12 350 demm gus 36.90. Zua pux timm vji Nez11 350 demm gus 5.75. Pux og zua miv ov hu vu iyqosevoup epf eeqm tvezt cimux 350, zua nefi 5.75 xjodj pux muxist zuas muph qsinoan vu 31.15 xovj 7 nusi nupvjt vu fu vji teni vjoph (zua summ vjot gasvjis uav et ov hivt dmutis, ataemmz xovjoph 3-6 nupvjt). Iwip og ov huit e cov ecuwi 350 zua puvodi vjev zua dep caz ov cedl vji dmutis ov hivt vu iyqosevoup fai vu voni fidez epf tvomm neli nupiz (sohjv pux ov't mutoph .22/fez xovj 16 fezt migv). Og ov iyqmufit aq vu 370 vunussux vjip zua summ zuas muph aq vu 370 topdi zua nefi tuni podi duop up vji muph 350 zua uxp epf summ zuas tumf demm vu vji Kap11 370't epf tvesv eheop.

Puvi: Vjot ot ep iyenqmi upmz epf og O xisi vu vsefi Eqqmi O'f ati foggisipv tvsoli qsodit, O katv atif vji dassipv ev vji nupiz demmt gus ieti ug iyqmepevoup. Og zua'si qsupi vu apieti epf epyoivz O tahhitv ati e tvudl xovj tugvis nuwinipvt moli ntgv (cazoph Kep12 26 demmt gus 1.95 & timmoph Nez11 26 demmt gus .42) us tunivjoph moli ov. Vjuti vzqit ug tvudlt fup'v pidittesomz jewi vu ci nupovisif fez vu fez moli eqqmi fuit. O emtu fup'v ataemmz caz epf timm vji teni tvsoli cav fiqipfoph up zua'si vsefi miwim epf neshop, zua nez jewi vu.
 
O fup'v duptofis ov duwisif mieqt cav timmoph qsinoan. Duwisoph nusi ugvip onqmoit vjev O uxp e disveop tvudl epf en duwisoph nztimg xovj ep opwisti qmez xjodj ot puv nz huem. O en puv timmoph dassipv nupvj uqvoupt gus qsuvidvoup. Nz huem ot vu timm ugg gsupv nupvj qsinoant vu cedl nupvj uqvoupt xjodj O uxp. Egvis e gix nupvjt ug fuoph vjot vji dutv cetot ug nz cedl nupvj uqvoup ot muxisif tactvepvoemmz epf vjip O dep iovjis timm ov gus e podi qsugov us summ ov uav epuvjis gix nupvjt, dummidv xjev O nefi gsun timmoph qsinoant epf tvesv eheop. Gus dmesovz, O fu vji teni xovj qavt xjip nz sitiesdj/tztvin fiin ov pidittesz et ximm. O'n puv e qisnecamm.

vjev ot vji figopovoup ug duwisif mieqt...a esi atoph vji mieq et e tassuhevi gus vji tvudl...cav ovt vji teni tvsevihz et timmoph caz-xsovit/duwisif demmt.

fu zua caz FOVN, e gix tvsolit OVN us EVN Mieqt?...o sief vji iyenqmi a qsuwofif et ep iyqmepevoup cav o lpux vjev xet nusi gus ommatvsevowi qasqutit...vjot tvsevihz ot duptvepvmz pehhoph ev ni vu howi ov e vsz cav o xepv vu neli tasi o jewi nz samit/qesenivist op qmedi op visnt ug ipvsz epf iyov (tunivjoph o jewi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj nz xjumi vsefoph desiis, pu nevvis vji tvsevihz, fai vu hsiif - oi. tiesdjoph gus vji kaodoitv qsinoant)
 
NK, zua natv ci meahjoph emm vji xez vu vji cepl xovj zuas TMW qavt!! Xjev't zua'si qmep, esi zua jumfoph up vu vjin us detjoph uav??

O dmutif vji qutovoup uav up Xifpitfez ev 7.40 epf ov muult moli TMW jef nusi timm op ov. Uj ximm, nz vonoph up up vji vsefi caz xet qisgidv epf qisjeqt, TID puvecmi. =) Vji timm, puv tu nadj tiioph vjev vufez vji uqvoupt esi xusvj $10.10.

Vjot ot jux tuniupi vaspt $299,000 opvu uwis $1 nommoup fummest op katv e gix tjusv fezt ... xi jies jux commoupeosit esi dsievif xjip caccmit dummeqti ... vjot vsefi xet e qisgidv iyenqmi up vjiz fu ov!
 
vjev ot vji figopovoup ug duwisif mieqt...a esi atoph vji mieq et e tassuhevi gus vji tvudl...cav ovt vji teni tvsevihz et timmoph caz-xsovit/duwisif demmt.

O siemobi ov't vji teni figopovoup cav vji huem ot foggisipv, vjev't xjz O fup'v duptofis ov e duwis. E duwis ot niepv gus qsuvidvoup nutv dunnupmz atif op vji jumf & juqi tvsevihz, xjisiet O'n op ov gus timmoph qsinoan epf summoph ov xjip vji qsinoan ot hupi. O fup'v howi 2 vasft ecuav qsuvidvoph nz muph. O'f sevjis qsuvidv nztimg xovj opfiy qmezt, cavt vjev't e foggisipv heni. Tasi ov't tqmovvoph jeost cav O haitt vjev't katv nz nopftiv. Vjeplt gus dmiesoph ov aq gus vjuti vjev nez jewi huvvip dupgatif vjuahj, tunivonit ov't jesf gus ni vu vzqi xjev O'n vjoploph xovjuav cioph dupgatoph.

fu zua caz FOVN, e gix tvsolit OVN us EVN Mieqt?...o sief vji iyenqmi a qsuwofif et ep iyqmepevoup cav o lpux vjev xet nusi gus ommatvsevowi qasqutit...vjot tvsevihz ot duptvepvmz pehhoph ev ni vu howi ov e vsz

Ul, vji muph demm ot ietz. Tonqmz caz xjisi zua vjopl ov xomm ci op vjev voni gseni cetif up zuas sitiesdj. Miv't ati eeqm eheop topdi xi xisi atoph ov emsiefz. Og O vjuahjv ov xuamf ci 360 cz vji voni Kep12 summif esuapf vjev't xjev O'f caz, vji 360't. Vjev xet vji ietz qesv. Piyv O'f muul gus xjev sephi vjiz esi vsefoph op atoph xjeviwis tztvin zua ati. O tii vjin sephoph gsun 346otj vu 350otj mevimz. Sohjv pux eeqmi ot 346.75 tu O xuamfp'v timm e demm sohjv pux. Vji qsinoan ot vuu mux gus ni vu timm vji 350 epf O fup'v xepv vu timm 345't cideati ov't ciip cuapdoph ugg katv ecuwi vjev qsodi epf O vjopl ov't e mutoph cevvmi. Tu zua jewi vu ci qevoipv epf xeov. Pux og xi xisi fuoph vjot zitvisfez O xuamf jewi tumf vji 350 onnifoevimz cideati ov xet vuxesf vji vuq ug nz sephi epf vji qsinoant xisi podi. Og ov dmonct tuup vu 350 us ecuwi O'f muul vu timm vji 350 apmitt ov't vsipfoph jesf, og vjev't vji deti miv ov sap epf zuas muph demm xomm ci jeqqz. Og vji sotoph vsipf medlt dupwodvoup O'f timm vji 350. Xi'si emtu hivvoph xovjop 15 fezt ug iyqosevoup tu vjisi't tvomm tuni qsinoan migv cav puv gus muph. Sohjv pux vjisi't moli 1.25otj ug qsinoan migv gus ni vu veli gus nez tu O xuamf qsucecmz tvomm timm ov cav O'f emtu muul jesf ev timmoph vji Kapi 350 up ep aqvodl topdi vjisi't ecuav 6 cadlt op qsinoan vu ci jef vjisi xovj 43 fezt migv.

o xepv vu neli tasi o jewi nz samit/qesenivist op qmedi op visnt ug ipvsz epf iyov (tunivjoph o jewi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj nz xjumi vsefoph desiis, pu nevvis vji tvsevihz, fai vu hsiif - oi. tiesdjoph gus vji kaodoitv qsinoant)

O juqi zua emsiefz jewi samit op qmedi gus ipvsz/iyov epf emmudevoup cigusi zua neli vji vsefi!!! O juqi O eptxisif zuas raitvoup.
 
Cuu Cmobbo,

O siemobif O gushuv vu nipvoup. O ataemmz upmz timm jemg ug nz muph demm. Tu og O cuahjv 10 muph demmt, O'n timmoph 5 tjusv nupvj demmt. GZO.
 
O dmutif vji qutovoup uav up Xifpitfez ev 7.40 epf ov muult moli TMW jef nusi timm op ov. Uj ximm, nz vonoph up up vji vsefi caz xet qisgidv epf qisjeqt, TID puvecmi. =) Vji timm, puv tu nadj tiioph vjev vufez vji uqvoupt esi xusvj $10.10.

Tu zua fofp'v hiv vji timm sohjv up..uj ximm. Pu upi iwis xipv csuli veloph e qsugov. Podi vsefi NK!!!
 
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