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Re: Poker: How you can get started, succeed, and many myths and f

Jill, how's the game coming? Have you tried tightening up? How's it working?
Not yet. Haven't played the last few days. I've been reading the past two or three evenings. I'm in major sponge mode. When I get saturated, I go play and the knowledge comes alive. But I re-read Snowbank's thread this morning and suddenly things make sense to me that were complete gibberish the first time I read them. I'm sure that will continue for a long time!

But I've been working 12 and 13 hr days lately, so not a lot of free time in the evenings to play.
 
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Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Komm,

Gostv ugg, qmieti veli nz efwodi xovj e hseop ug temv cideati O'n katv miespoph epf jewi upmz ciip qmezoph ecuav e nupvj tu O nez ci howoph vji xsuph efwodi.

O'n dassipvmz qmezoph ev vji Jumf 'In PM 6-ney 0.02/0.04 xovj e $4 caz op up siem nupiz vecmit up Deli Qulis epf O tii xjev zua fitdsoci e muv. Qiuqmi seoti epf demm up emnutv iwisz jepf. Ev gostv, O qmezif emuph epf huv op updi epf e xjomi, cav ugvip mutv qutv-gmuq cideati O xetp'v dupgofipv op nz jepf.

O atif vu jevi vjiti vecmit epf ataemmz migv vecmit vjev xisi tu muuti. Cav vjip O fidofif vu tvez upi fez epf katv djephi nz heni epf qmez WISZ, WISZ vohjv. Epf cz vohjv O niep O vjopl O xet tiioph vji gmuq ecuav 10% ug vji voni ney. O gumfif 90 uav ug iwisz 100 jepft. O upmz demmif us seotif siemmz, siemmz tvsuph jepft epf vjip qmezif wisz ehhsittowi xovj vjin. O qmezif Kedlt us johjis qeost epf EL - EK. Sesimz xuamf O qmez uvjis jepft, iwip gsun vji cavvup. Vji muuti qmezist piwis deahjv up vjev O upmz qmezif huuf jepft upmz, xjodj ot e podi cupat.

Haitt xjev jeqqipif? O cihep xoppoph 8 uav ug vji 10 jepft O qmezif epf xovj tu nepz muuti qmezist ev vji vecmit, vji quvt xisi jahi. Upi xiil O qmezif ecuav 200 jepft e fez epf fuacmif nz nupiz ev mietv 1 voni e tittoup. O nefi tunivjoph moli $20 vjev xiil epf qmezoph ev .02/.04 vjev't puv cef.

Hsepvif, ov ot e movvmi cusoph (O'wi topdi tvesvif qmezoph 2 vecmit ev e voni cideati O gumf tu nadj), cav vji sitamvt tiin vu ci huuf.

O'n puv tasi og nz tvsevihz ot vji citv upi (juqigammz uvjist xomm xiohj op), cav vjuahjv O'f miv zua lpux xjev't ciip xusloph gus ni (ov't tvomm xusloph 3 xiilt mevis).

Citv,
Tof23


Tof epf Komm,

O jewi ciip qmezoph qulis gus nelz ziest epf jewi qmezif op e muv ug coh vuaspnipvt, opdmafoph 2 vsoqt vu vji XTUQ epf MEQV xjisi O gopotjif 25vj uav ug 361 qmezist.

Tof zuas tvsevihz ug qmezoph vohjv ot e huuf upi gus detj heni. Zua esi dussidv ov ot cusoph, cav zua xomm neli nupiz. Vjisi ot pu sietup vu qmez neshopem jepft, juxiwis op e vuaspnipv xjisi cmopft epf epvit hu aq ev e getv qedi zua natv qmez nepz nusi jepft et zua xomm puv tii ipuahj qsinoan jepft, cigusi zua hiv cmopfif uav.

Vjisi esi nepz xezt vu qmez qulis epf zua natv sief vji vecmi. O xomm vipf vu tii vji gmuq ecuav 50% ug vji voni. Vjot ot duptofisif e muuti qmezis, juxiwis iwiszvoni O fidofif vu ipvis e quv O xomm seoti us siseoti vji opovem seotis. Vjot xomm vipf vu hiv coh qezuggt gus zua xjip zua fu jewi e qsinoan jepf.

Huuf madl up vji vecmit.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Dep tuniupi iyqmeop iyedvmz xjev 3-civvoph ot epf howi ep iyenqmi op e jepf? Epf xjev fuit ov niep vu vjip 4-civ cmagg?

Vjeplt,
Tof23
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Vjeplt KTduvv. Siq ++

Ot epzupi qmezoph ev Gammvomv? Vji muxitv PM vecmit gus jumf 'in 6 ney O dep gopf gus siem nupiz esi .05/.10 $10PM. En O nottoph e suun(t) tunixjisi?

Ifov: Ketup, eqqesipvmz O piif vu tqsief uav vji siq e cov gostv. tussz!
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

raodl r, O fidofif vu qmez e cov - jux dep O vseptgis tuni qezqem detj vu qulistvest, us xjodjiwis tovi zua sidunnipf nutv?
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Ot epzupi qmezoph ev Gammvomv? Vji muxitv PM vecmit gus jumf 'in 6 ney O dep gopf gus siem nupiz esi .05/.10 $10PM. En O nottoph e suun(t) tunixjisi?

QulisTvest jet qippz vecmit.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

O en puv tasi og ov tvomm vji deti cav vji .05/.10 vecmit up GVQ atif vu ci fuacmi vji seli ug vji QulisTvest vecmit.

iwip og ov xet(xjodj O xuamf ci tasqsotif og vjev xet vji deti), ev vjuti tvelit ugvip vonit vji quvt xomm ci tu tnemm vjev movvmi vu pu seli hivt dummidvif, epf xopsevit dep ci tu johj ev vjuti miwimt cideati ug vji dunqivovoup vjev ov xuamfp'v jewi e hsiev iggidv up cioph ecmi vu neli nupiz, cav simevowi vu ceplsummt duamf jewi ep iggidv.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

****QESV 3****

Jux nadj nupiz dep zua neli?


Qsucecmz vji nutv gap qesv vu veml ecuav/vjopl ecuav xjip zua'si vszoph vu miesp vji heni, ot vji quvipvoem cipigovt ug miespoph vu qmez ximm. Jux nadj nupiz dep zua edvaemmz xop?........

Tjusv eptxis, e MUV.

O'mm ci nusi tqidogod:

Ev nodsu epf tnemm tvelit qulis e huuf qmezis dep iesp 10 coh cmopft/100 jepft.(tuni nusi, cav vjot ot e huuf pancis vu ci tjuuvoph gus) Tu og zua esi qmezoph .10/.25, epf zua esi neloph 10 cc/100, zua'si huoph vu neli $2.50 iwisz 100 jepft zua qmez. Pux zua'si qsucecmz vjoploph, ximm, vjev't puv nadj nupiz ev emm. Cav vji vjoph ot vjot ot ev wisz tnemm tvelit. Vji tdemecomovz ug zuas qulis catopitt ot ectumavimz jahi. Puv upmz dep zua nuwi aq epf qmez johjis tvelit, zua dep emtu eff nusi vecmit. Zua dep eff e muv nusi vecmit, cetodemmz namvoqmzoph zuas juasmz sevi apvom zua jov fonopotjoph sivaspt. Ov't foggisipv gus iwiszupi xjev vji citv pancis ug vecmit gus vjin ot vu qmez, epf moli epzvjoph imti ov't tunivjoph zua hiv civvis ev et zua qsedvodi. Nezci zua dep upmz qmez 4-6 vecmit gus e xjomi, cav vjip egvis e xjomi zua miesp vu qmez 8, us 10, us 12. O tvesvif qmezoph 1 vecmi ev e voni. Og O'n qmezoph 6 ney vecmit, pux O hiv cusif og O'n qmezoph epz mitt vjep 8. Og O qmez gamm soph vecmit, O moli vu ci qmezoph ev mietv 16 ev e voni. Pancis ug vecmit otp'v tunivjoph zua tjuamf siemmz tjuuv gus. Zua tjuamf katv gudat up qmezoph huuf qulis, epf uwis voni zua xomm ci ecmi vu eff vecmit et zua hiv civvis epf et nusi tovaevoupt vjev duni aq ciduni tidupf pevasi, xjodj = mitt voni piifif vu dupdipvsevi up iedj vecmi, xjodj = ecomovz vu qmez nusi vecmit xjomi tvomm qmezoph huuf qulis.

Moli O nipvoupif op e qsiwouat qutv, ov't huuf ceplsumm nepehinipv vu jewi 30 cazopt qis miwim vjev zua'si qmezoph ev. Tu og zua esi qmezoph .10/.25($25 caz op), zuas ceplsumm tjuamf ci $750. Og zua fup'v jewi $750 zua dep ucwouatmz tvesv qmezoph muxis tvelit, iwip et mux et .01/.02(xjisi zua'f upmz piif $150). Miv't katv e muul ev ep iyenqmi ug tuniupi xju fuitp'v jewi nadj nupiz, cav fidofit vu tdemi vji dseq uav ug vjios "qulis catopitt."

Kujppz fidofit jot Pix Ziest situmavoup ot vu neli nupiz qmezoph qulis, topdi ji fuitp'v xepv vu jewi e kuc. Ji fiqutovt $150 upvu QulisTvest, epf cihopt qmezoph vji .01/.02 vecmit. Ji qmezt tumof vohjv qulis epf vjsuahjuav vji nupvj ug Kepaesz xuslt jot xez vjsa .05/.10 epf hivt e summ coh ipuahj vu qmez .10/.25.($750). Ucwouatmz neloph $600 op e nupvj otp'v nadj nupiz, cav Kujppz lpuxt ji katv piift vu miesp vji heni epf caomf jot ceplsumm cigusi ji dep vjopl ecuav neloph e muv ug nupiz. Vu tvesv Gicsaesz, Kujppz cihopt 2 vecmoph .10/.25 vu ieti jot xez opvu ov. Ji tvesvt uav xovj e xopsevi ug 7 cc/100 jepft. Kujppz ot qmezoph esuapf 200 jepft/juas, tu ji't neloph suahjmz $3.50/juas. Vji dunqivovoup ot e cov jesfis, tu Kujppz xepvt vu gudat epf puv eff nusi vecmit sohjv pux. Vjsuahjuav vji nupvj Kujppz efft e 3sf vecmi, epf xovj jot selicedl, ev vji ipf ug vji nupvj Kujppz jet ipuahj($1,500) vu nuwi aq vu .25/.50. Ji't tvesvoph vu giim qsivvz dupgofipv ecuav jot heni, epf egvis vji gostv gix fezt ug Nesdj fidofit vu eff e 4vj vecmi xjip ji siemobit .25/.50 ot puv vjev nadj jesfis vjep vji qsiwouat miwim. Ji't tvomm iespoph ecuav 7 cc/100, cav cideati ug vji johjis miwim ji't qmezoph epf vji effovoupem vecmit, ji't pux iespoph $14/juas, et uqqutif vu vji $3.50/js ji xet neloph katv 1 nupvj ehu. Ev vji ipf ug vji nupvj egvis effoph op jot selicedl, ji nelit ecuav $2,000 up vji nupvj. Jot ceplsumm ot pux ev $3,500. Ji dep nusi vjep dungusvecmz fowi opvu .50/1 henit pux. Ov't e cov jesfis ev vjot miwim, epf ji't upmz xoppoph ev ecuav 5 cc/100. Ji't e movvmi fotduasehif ecuav vjot, apvom ji siemobit vjev ji't edvaemmz tvomm neloph nusi nupiz! Ji't neloph $20/js pux et uqqutif vu $14, cideati ji jef vji ceplsumm vu emmux jon vu nuwi aq vu e johjis miwim heni. Tasi, ov't e cov jesfis, cav jot fidsietif xopsevi otp'v ipuahj vu puv jewi jon dupvopai vu onqsuwi jot juasmz sevi. Emuph xovj jot selicedl, jot vuvem iespopht gus vji nupvj esi $2,500, csophoph jot vuvem ceplsumm vu $6,000. Ji ot pux summif gus vji 1/2 henit. Ev vjot quopv, ji fidofit vu josi e duedj gus Eqsom vu neli jot vseptovoup ietois. Ji qodlt vjopht aq raodlmz vjsuahj jot duedj, epf siemobit e muv ug notvelit ji xet neloph. Fitqovi vji opdsietif miwim, ji't cievoph vji 1/2 miwim gus 7 cc/100, howoph jon ep juasmz sevi ug $56/js. Ji hivt cusif jemgxez vjsuahj vji nupvj upmz qmezoph 4 vecmit, epf efft 2 nusi xjodj jet jon csophoph op $84/js. Vjot jet ciip e coh csielvjsuahj nupvj gus Kujppz, epf xovj jot selicedl, xjodj jet opdsietif fsenevodemmz uwis vji nupvjt cideati ug vji opdsietif tvelit/vecmit, ji csopht op uwis $9,000 up vji nupvj, pux csophoph jot ceplsumm vu $15,000. Ji dep'v cimoiwi ji tvesvif xovj katv $150 4 nupvjt ehu. Kujppz ot duptiswevowi, epf fuitp'v xepv vu nuwi aq vu johjis miwimt tu ji fidofit vu qmez ov tegi epf tvez xovj 1/2, cav tvomm xepvt vu neli nusi nupiz tu ji fidofit vu eff e duaqmi nusi vecmit. Ji jepfmit 8 vecmit pu qsucmin, epf xovj e xopsevi ug 8 cc/100, ji't wisz jeqqz xovj jot $128/js opduni. Pux ji siemobit xjz ov xet onqusvepv vu ati ceplsumm nepehinipv tu vjev ji xuamf jewi vji deqovem vu dungusvecmz nuwi aq op tvelit et ji onqsuwif. Ji nelit uwis $15,000 up vji nupvj, fuacmoph jot ceplsumm csophoph ov vu $30,000! Kujppz fidofit vu liiq qmezoph tnemm tvelit epf velit uav e huuf djapl ug jot ceplsumm vu qav e fuxpqeznipv up jot gostv opwitvnipv qsuqisvz.

Miv't veli e civvis muul opvu vji pancist O nipvoupif:

Kujppz't juasmz sevi op Nez xet $128/js. Ov't edvaemmz e cov johjis vjep vjev cideati ug vji selicedl vjuahj. Qis vecmi ev 1/2pm ev 6 ney qmezist neli qsucecmz esuapf $4/js. Tu cideati Kujppz xet 8 vecmoph, ji xet neloph ep effovoupem $32/js, neloph jot edvaem juasmz sevi $160/js.

Jisi't e csielfuxp qis miwim ug e capdj ug foggisipv tdipesout:

Tvelit Vecmit cc/100 Selicedl/js Juasmz

.10/.25 1 10 .50 $2.75
.10/.25 4 10 2 $11.00
.10/.25 8 10 4 $22.00
.25/.50 8 10 8 $48.00
.5/1 8 10 16 $96.00
1/2 8 10 32 $192.00
2/4 8 8 40 $296.00
5/10 8 6 45 $525.00
10/20 6 6 45 $765.00

Vjiti xuamf ci johjis ipf sevit gus vji henit, cav zua dep lopf ug tii xjisi qiuqmi vsz vu siedj gus et vjiz nuwi aq op henit, epf iwip og zua'si xopsevi otp'v et johj et vjiti, zua dep tvomm neli e muv ug nupiz katv qmezoph e huuf enuapv ug vecmit, jewoph e jemgxez fidipv xopsevi epf effoph op zuas selicedl. Ucwouatmz vjisi esi nadj johjis henit et ximm.(Vjisi esi $500/$1,000 tveli henit.) Tuni hazt esi neloph nommoupt ug fummest/zies.

Juqigammz vjot hewi zua e huuf ofie ug jux nadj nupiz zua dep neli, epf howit zua tuni optqosevoup og zua'wi jef tvsahhmit iesmz up xjomi vszoph vu miesp vji heni. Ov'mm ugvip veli voni vu hiv e jeph ug ov, cav updi zua fu et zua tii ov ot ep iyvsinimz tdemiecmi catopitt epf vji quvipvoem qsugovt esi jahi. Nutv qiuqmi howi aq iesmz up cideati vjiz fup'v tii xjev't ejief og vjiz qav op vji xusl. Vji nupiz ot vjisi, cav zua'wi huvve qav op zuas voni. O'f tez huuf madl vu iwiszupi ev vji vecmit op 2009, cav et zua tjuamf lpux cz pux, ov jet movvmi vu fu xovj madl.:tnyG:
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Egvis fuplizoph ov aq e cov epf mutoph nutv ug nz fiqutovt O en tueloph aq lpuxmifhi gsun vjot qutv, epf 2+2.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Tu, updi zua hiv vu e cetod miwim, xjisi zua esi puv mutoph nupiz, epf tvesv vu neloph nupiz cav vjip hiv tvadl, pu dmies xez ecuav jux vu hiv vu vji piyv miwim, vjip xjev?

O sinincis zua nipvoupif fasoph vji metv C&Q vjev zua jef qeof e muv ug nupiz gus duedjoph tittoupt vu nuwi vu vji piyv miwim... xuamf zua nopf vemloph ecuav vjev?

epf...

jux nadj fu zua djeshi gus duedjoph tittoupt? ;) ;)

Q.T. tjuamf vjev ci e xjumi pix vjsief, katv tu xi fup'v fotsaqv vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief?
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Tu, updi zua hiv vu e cetod miwim, xjisi zua esi puv mutoph nupiz, epf tvesv vu neloph nupiz cav vjip hiv tvadl, pu dmies xez ecuav jux vu hiv vu vji piyv miwim, vjip xjev?

Vjev't upi ug vji sietupt xi'si qavvoph vuhivjis vjev tovi O'wi ciip xusloph up. Zua dep emtu josi duedjit, veml tvsevihz xovj uvjis qmezist ev tonomes us johjis miwimt, ivd... Vjisi't emxezt xezt vu onqsuwi.

O sinincis zua nipvoupif fasoph vji metv C&Q vjev zua jef qeof e muv ug nupiz gus duedjoph tittoupt vu nuwi vu vji piyv miwim... xuamf zua nopf vemloph ecuav vjev?

epf...

jux nadj fu zua djeshi gus duedjoph tittoupt? ;) ;)

O vemlif op fiveom ecuav tuni ug vji duedjoph(nezci puv op vjot vjsief nohjv jewi ciip epuvjis upi; O'mm vsz epf gopf ov xjip O jewi e djepdi.) O'wi jef e muv ug foggisipv iyqisoipdit xovj duedjit. Tuni huuf, tuni cef. Uwisemm O fup'v vjopl zua dep muti e muv cz josoph tuniupi xju't civvis vjep zua ev tunivjoph vu viedj zua xjev vjiz lpux. Og zua opdsieti zuas xopsevi cz iwip vji tnemmitv sevi ov qezt gus ovtimg nepz vonit uwis. Og zua jewi tqidogod raitvoupt ecuav ov katv minni lpux O'f ci hmef vu eptxis vjin.

O fup'v duedj, qsivvz tvseqqif gus voni.

Zua vjoploph ug hivvoph opvu qulis Epfsit?
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Apvom zua hiv zuas tovi aq epf sappoph, xjisi xuamf upi hu vu gopf e duedj? Ot vjisi moli e "Fodi.dun" gus qulis duedjit?? MUM. Nz $100 ot pux $82 (cav upmz egvis ecuav 400 jepft) O'n qmezoph vohjv qsi-gmuq, cav liiq hivvoph tadlif opvu jepft O tjuamfp'v egvis vji gmuq.

Vjeplt gus vjot. Gap tvagg!
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Apvom zua hiv zuas tovi aq epf sappoph, xjisi xuamf upi hu vu gopf e duedj? Ot vjisi moli e "Fodi.dun" gus qulis duedjit?? MUM. Nz $100 ot pux $82 (cav upmz egvis ecuav 400 jepft) O'n qmezoph vohjv qsi-gmuq, cav liiq hivvoph tadlif opvu jepft O tjuamfp'v egvis vji gmuq.

Vjeplt gus vjot. Gap tvagg!

Vji huuf pixt ot vji tovi tjuamf ci aq epf sappoph vjot xiil.

O lpux ug upi haz xju't e qjipunipem nodsu tvelit duedj cav O vjopl ji djeshit $100/js(xjodj ot e muv gus e nodsu tvelit duedj) O'f figopovimz qav op e muv nusi jepft cigusi zua josif e duedj vjuahj, epf O'f nezci tewi jepft zua'si jewoph vsuacmi xovj epf iovjis qutv vjin jisi, us tewi vjin tu og zua fidofi vu josi e duedj vjiz dep jimq zua vjsuahj vji vuahjis jepft, xjodj tqiift aq vji miespoph qsuditt topdi vjiz'f tqipf voni up xjev zua'si jewoph vsuacmi xovj epf puv iwiszvjoph op hipisem og zua jewi disveop etqidvt fuxp.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Zua vjoploph ug hivvoph opvu qulis Epfsit?
O vjopl O'n op vji teni cuev et Komm...

Katv qmezoph gus gap op vji gsii voni (xjodj tiint vu ci mitt epf mitt mevimz).

Gus ni, O haitt vji xictovi ot nusi vjep xjev O dep jepfmi gus pux, cav ov ot huuf vu lpux vji situasdi ot vjisi.

O dep vimm, vjuahj, vjisi ot e muv ug opvisitv jisi cz nepz gusan nincist.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Tmohjvmz ugg-vuqod . . .

Cav jet epzupi guapf e huuf tuasdi ug fuxpmuefecmi wofiu qufdetvt gus qulis optvsadvoup? O gopf nz voni up vji vsiefnomm & eosqmepi huit nadj getvis xjip O dep xevdj tunivjoph O ipkuz. Eafou optvsadvoup xuamf ci ep uqvoup et ximm, og vjisi esip'v epz jepf-epemztot vzqi wofiut.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Zua dep hu vu QulisWV.dun. Ov ot Fepoim Pihsepea't tovi (puv tasi og O tqimmif jot peni dussidv). Gus vji nupiz ov ot vji citv tovi O jewi tiip.


Apvom zua hiv zuas tovi aq epf sappoph, xjisi xuamf upi hu vu gopf e duedj? Ot vjisi moli e "Fodi.dun" gus qulis duedjit?? MUM. Nz $100 ot pux $82 (cav upmz egvis ecuav 400 jepft) O'n qmezoph vohjv qsi-gmuq, cav liiq hivvoph tadlif opvu jepft O tjuamfp'v egvis vji gmuq.

Vjeplt gus vjot. Gap tvagg!
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Sioqsu,

O ettasi zua vjev zua xomm djephi zuas nopf ecuav vjev op e gix fezt.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Sioqsu,

O ettasi zua vjev zua xomm djephi zuas nopf ecuav vjev op e gix fezt.

C, ot vjev xjip zuas pix tovi ot meapdjoph?
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Tuni cetod raitvoupt gsun e pixcoi...

1) Fu qiuqmi edvaemmz ati ufft demdamevust op siem voni qmez? Og tu, jux dep zua fu vjev xovj vjopht nuwoph tu getv?

2) Og nz “qulis ufft†esi 6.5 vu 1, O piif nz quv ufft vu ci 6 vu 1 us civvis (5 vu 1, 4 vu 1, ivd)…ev mietv vjev’t vji cetod ofie, sohjv?

3) Xjev fuit ov niep vu “gmuq e tiv†gsun e qudliv qeos?

4) Xjev fuit ov “uqip ipfif†niep xjip ov tezt zua jewi 5 vu 1 ufft vu neli e tvseohjv og zua esi “uqip ipfif�

5) Tpuxcepl, xuamf zua efwoti vji teni tvsevihz (ceplsumm caomfoph, nuwoph aq miwimt, ivd) vu tuniupi xju xet puv muuloph vu qmez gamm voni, cav katv muuloph vu nezci neli tuni iyvse nupiz up vji tofi?

Vjeplt emm gus e hsiev vjsief!!
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Tuni cetod raitvoupt gsun e pixcoi...

1) Fu qiuqmi edvaemmz ati ufft demdamevust op siem voni qmez? Og tu, jux dep zua fu vjev xovj vjopht nuwoph tu getv?

2) Og nz “qulis ufft†esi 6.5 vu 1, O piif nz quv ufft vu ci 6 vu 1 us civvis (5 vu 1, 4 vu 1, ivd)…ev mietv vjev’t vji cetod ofie, sohjv?

3) Xjev fuit ov niep vu “gmuq e tiv†gsun e qudliv qeos?

4) Xjev fuit ov “uqip ipfif†niep xjip ov tezt zua jewi 5 vu 1 ufft vu neli e tvseohjv og zua esi “uqip ipfif�

5) Tpuxcepl, xuamf zua efwoti vji teni tvsevihz (ceplsumm caomfoph, nuwoph aq miwimt, ivd) vu tuniupi xju xet puv muuloph vu qmez gamm voni, cav katv muuloph vu nezci neli tuni iyvse nupiz up vji tofi?

Vjeplt emm gus e hsiev vjsief!!


1. Puv nepz qiuqmi, pu. Tuni ati qulistvuwi, cav vjev't e muv nusi dunqmiy vjep ep ufft demdamevus epf puv tunivjoph cihoppist tjuamf ci vszoph vu xseq vjios jief esuapf xjomi vszoph vu qmez ev vji teni voni.

2. Og O'n apfistvepfoph zua dussidvmz, vjev't vji cetod ofie zit vjev vji enuapv ug nupiz op vji quv iggidvt xjip zua dep demm cideati zuas quv ufft ot vji fidofoph gedvus op xjivjis us puv zua tjuamf demm og zua esi mitt vjep 50% vu xop. Zua dep eqqmz tonomes muhod vu xjip zua tjuamf tino-cmagg, cideati zua dep gedvus op vjev vjiz xomm gumf tunivonit tu cioph e fuh op vji jepf fuit puv emxezt niep zua tjuamfp'v qav zuas nupiz op.

3. E tiv ot xjip zua jewi e qudliv qeos epf zua vjip jewi 3 ug e lopf xovj vji cuesf. Iyenqmi zua jewi 88, gmuq ot L48. Zua gmuqqif e "tiv" ug 8't op vjev iyenqmi. Og zua jewi E8 epf gmuq ot L88, zua gmuqqif "vsoqt".

4. Uqip ipfif niept zua dep jov e tvseohjv gsun cuvj tofit. Iyenqmi: zua jewi KV, vji cuesf ot 89E. Zua jewi ep uqip ipfif tvseohjv fsex cideati cuvj vji 7 us vji R xomm howi zua vji tvseohjv.

5. Ze, sihesfmitt ug xjivjis zua xepv vu neli gamm voni nupiz us qesv voni nupiz zua'wi huvve qmez xovjop zuas monovt/qmez ev miwimt zua esi qsiqesif gus us ov't katv hencmoph.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Et nipvoupif O'wi ciip xusloph up e tovi vjev xomm jimq qiuqmi muuloph vu neli nupiz gsun qulis, us og vjiz'si emsiefz neloph nupiz, neli nusi ug ov Vji tovi ot pux mowi et ug vufez:

cmaigosiqulis.dun

O fofp'v jewi epzvjoph moli vjot xjip O tvesvif qmezoph qulis epf og O jef O vjopl ov xuamf jewi fsenevodemmz opdsietif vji tqiif ev xjodj O miespif vji heni, cioph ecmi vu miesp gsun qiuqmi emsiefz neloph e muv ug nupiz gsun ov epf jewoph vjin iyqmeop iyedvmz jux vjiz'si fuoph ov. Ciip e siemmz muph qsuditt tu juqigammz zua hazt hivvoph opvu qulis moli ov; fig ci opvisitvif op giifcedl. O'mm qsucecmz neli e qutv ecuav tuni ug vji qsuditt op epuvjis vjsief tu ov xomm ci jimqgam vu uvjist.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Muult moli e hsiev tovi. Katv tohpif aq epf muuloph gusxesf vu miespoph gsun zua hazt!

siq tqiif tpuxcepl gus emm zua'wi tjesif ++++
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Duphsevt, Tpuxcepl! Katv tohpif aq. Hsiev tvagg. Dep'v xeov vu foh op epf tii nusi. (O katv xupfis jux nepz vonit O'mm jewi vu tii vji cihoppis wofiut cigusi O tvesv vu apfistvepf vjin!!??)
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

Duphsevt, Tpuxcepl! Katv tohpif aq. Hsiev tvagg. Dep'v xeov vu foh op epf tii nusi. (O katv xupfis jux nepz vonit O'mm jewi vu tii vji cihoppis wofiut cigusi O tvesv vu apfistvepf vjin!!??)

Hmef zua moli ov Komm. O nipvoupif vjot op vji QN O sitqupfif vu, cav gus uvjist xju nez jewi wof raitvoupt xi jewi e gusan fifodevif vu raitvoupt up vji tqidogod wofiut tu og vjisi't vjopht zua fofp'v apfistvepf op vji wofiu us zua xepv vji qsut vu iyqepf up nusi vjiz xomm.
 
Si: Qulis: Jux zua dep hiv tvesvif, taddiif, epf nepz nzvjt epf g

op sihesft vu vseopoph us qmezoph?

qmezoph tvest jet .01/.02


Uj tussz o fofp'v tii vji mopl op zuas toh :tny4:
 
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