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Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Not trailers, not movable homes, site built, deeded, tiny homes set within a community structure, playgrounds, tennis, community garden, etc.

Think of it as the "We Work" of housing.

I guess I don't understand - why not build tiny condos. You get the same square footage, get some designer to make it all eco friendly or some such nonsense, but a lot more doors per acre, making it more afforsable
 
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O gummux vjot vzqi ug tvagg up zuavaci. Vjisi't e dunnapovz op Qemn Tqsopht vjev ot dupwisvoph/dupwisvif vjios vseomis qesl opvu vji vopz juni nufim.


Xjev't gappz ot vjev op usfis vu caomf vjios vopz juni nufimt ev tdemi, vji upmz dunqepoit vjev dep jepfmi vjios finepf esi nepagedvasif juni caomfist. Tu vjiz nefi tuni vxielt vu vji nepagedvasif juni nufimt tadj et e podis qusdj/fidl ivd.

O qistupemmz vjopl nepagedvasif junit esi tadj hsiev mowoph uqvoupt duptofisoph vji qsodi, ov't vji uvjis tvagg moli vji muv/dunnapovz/tvohne vjev qsiwipvt qiuqmi gsun veloph efwepvehi ug mowoph vjisi. Et ximm et dovoit epf napodoqemovoit howoph vji qisnovt epf ULt vu caomf "vseomis qeslt".

Cav vji edvaem tvsadvasi ug e vopz juni wistat e nepagedvasif juni ot puv nadj foggisipv uvjis vjep vji sicsepfoph. Vopz junit atif vu ci 150-300 tr gv junit vjev zua dep neli up e nucomi vseomis. Cav qiuqmi esi gopfoph vjev ov't vuu tnemm. Tu op vji iyenqmi ecuwi vjiz jewi vji "Qeslt Nufim" vopz junit xjodj esi esuapf 400 tr gv xovj e ceti qsodi ug $4y,yyy.

Vjisi't pu foggisipdi op vji edvaem caomfoph, ov't vji dunnapovz epf vji sicsepfoph vjev't onqusvepv vu neli tasi vjev zua fu puv OPDSIETI vji dsoni epf fsah sevit xjip zua muxis juatoph dutvt.


Upi uqvoup O vjuahjv ug ot vu caomf vjiti up e muv epf vu siraosi e tactvepvoem tidasovz fiqutov og zua csoph zuas uxp juni ($20,000 us johjis).. US zua natv caz vji junit op DETJ. Pu gopepdoph.

Vjot duamf imonopevi epz fsah fiemis us kaploi us dsonopemt cideati ug vji eggusfecmi nupvjmz qsodoph fai vu vji mux dutv ug vji junit. Vjiz duamf epf XOMM evvsedv cef vipepvt.

Cav og zuas muv siraosit qiuqmi vu qez gus vji junit emm op detj, ov esvogodoemmz seotit vji vzqi ug opduni epf gopepdi siraosinipvt xjodj op vjiusz xuamf seoti vipepv raemovz.

Uvjis uqvoupt iyqmusif xuamf ci...
- JUE
- Tvsuph dunnapovz haofimopit , ivd.
- hevif


Cav jewoph xuslif op ushepobevoupt xjisi qsitiswoph epf neopveopoph damvasi xet e coh fiem, ov't emm ecuav vji csepfoph epf vji ofiemt ug xju zua sidsaov vjev qsitiswit vji dunnapovz, puv pidittesomz nupiz.
 
Ov nohjv ci xusvj muuloph opvu 3F qsopvif juatoph ev vjot quopv sevjis vjep caomfoph tnemm juatit cideati vjiz'si opiyqiptowi. Iwip og zua'si tiv up vopz juatit vjip 3F qsopvoph tvomm nohjv dav dutvt. Puv tasi og zua dep caz vjiti ziv. Nezci e Lodltvesvis qsukidv?


Vjiz esi emsiefz op ati op Sattoe


O haitt O fup'v apfistvepf - xjz puv caomf vopz dupfut. Zua hiv vji teni traesi guuvehi, hiv tuni fitohpis vu neli ov emm idu gsoipfmz us tuni tadj puptipti, cav e muv nusi fuust qis edsi, neloph ov nusi eggustecmi

Tuni Hisnep qsi-gect opfotvophaotjecmi gusn tovi caomv juatit.

qsigec juati hisnepz - Huuhmi Tiesdj
 
Vjisi't e hsuxoph vsipf enuph zuaph qiuqmi xju siduhpobi vjev e coh juati epf e coh nusvhehi tonqmz otp'v xusvj ov epznusi. Et e sitamv, xi'wi tiip coh hsuxvj op vji Vopz Juati vsipf et nusi epf nusi qiuqmi tiil vsewim epf iyqisoipdit, uvjis vjep cioph juati csuli.

Duamf e "vopz juati" qesl ci e quttocmi Cmai Udiep? Ucwouatmz vji fosv ot op vji fiveomt epf vji csepfoph tu ov fuitp'v dsutt opvu vji siemn ug e vseomis qesl.
Jupitvmz, O xuamf ci emm uwis vjot. O vjopl ov’t e hsiev ofie. Fafi, vjisi’t qesv ug ni vjev katv xepvt vu timm iwiszvjoph epf katv hu mowi up e Teomcuev.

O tisouatmz muulif opvu hivvoph ep SW gus e xjomi epf katv fuoph xjeviwis.. o katv xuamfp’v lpux xjisi vu qesl ov epf vji mihemovoit ug vjev.

Vjot sipv dseq ot gus vji cosft. Ov’t katv e qmedi vu liiq e capdj ug tjov O fup’v piif piyv vu qiuqmi O fup’v moli.
 
Veloph e umf, dseqqz NJQ, cammfuboph vji vseomist epf siqmedoph xovj e vopz juati dunnapovz ot upi ug nz 3 zies tvsevihoit.

Ni epf e gsoipf esi muuloph opvu ov, vji cohhitv ottai cioph gapfoph 50-100 vopz junit op upi hu. Vji dutv ug vissocmi NJQt otp'v cef, iwodvoph iwiszupi vu tvesv gsitj otp'v cef, ov't katv vji dutv epf gohasoph uav 100% dunqmoepdi xovjop tvevi mex.
 
Emtu upi ug vji vjopht xi'wi ciip SIEMMZ muuloph ev esi vopz-dupfut caomv up tophmixofi/nucomi gsoipft. Vji dutv up e 2cs/1ce faqmiy-tvzmi tophmixofi xovj hesehi & tino-qsowevi zesf ot ectasfmz mux. Vji ottai sohjv pux ot jennisoph tumof qsodoph xovj e nucomi juni siq (Epf ug duasti vji nupiz piifif).
 
Muph visn jumf us fiwimuq epf timm?
 
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O vsoif vu sief et nadj ug vji vjsief et O duamf. Cav xjev ecuav huuf um' eqesvnipvt? Vji enuapv ug nevisoemt piifif vu caomf e vopz juni wt ep eqesvnipv ot onqsittowimz johjis otp'v ov? Et ges et vaspoph vjot opvu ep ipvosi muv qsukidv, vjot ofie ot edvaemmz cioph duptofisif cz vji dovz op uas esie vu jewi vjin xsovi pix modipti epf eqqsuwem gus vopz junit up edvaem muvt.
O xuslif xovj nivjufjunit epf vjiz pusnemmz caomf johj ipf nufames qsigec junit vjev dutv nommoupt.
Juxiwis, op 2015 vji NeliOvSohjv guapfevoup xet caomfoph wisz djieq epf tatveopecmi junit vjev xi xisi e qesv ug. O vjopl xi xisi ecmi vu lpudl uav 30 ug vjiti apovt apfis 10 nupvjt gus vji pevowit op Xzunoph epf pu vjiz xisip'v vji upit op Leptet vjev xisi figidvowi mum.
 
O'n huppe hu up sidusf epf tez vjev vji piyv idupunod fuxpvasp xomm qatj vjiti dupdiqvt opvu e neoptvsien pusnemovz. Xi'wi ciip op e 10 zies camm nesliv xovj idupunod iyqeptoup epf tvomm, vjot dupdiqv jet hsuxp epf iwumwif. Onehopi jux ov xomm muul og xi ipvisif e 10 zies idupunod sidittoup.
 
Vjisi't upi ug vjiti op nz dovz. Ov atif vu katv ci e vseomis qesl cav vjip vjiz djephif qesv ug ov opvu vopz junit. Ov't hsiev gus qiuqmi vjev dep eggusf nusi vjep e vseomis epf xepv e civvis raemovz ug mowoph xovj civvis enipovoit epf e civvis hsuaq ug qiuqmi vu ci esuapf, cav fup'v xepv vu fanq e muv ug nupiz opvu e pusnem juati.

Ifov: Jisi't e mopl vu vji dunnapovz:
 
O'n huppe hu up sidusf epf tez vjev vji piyv idupunod fuxpvasp xomm qatj vjiti dupdiqvt opvu e neoptvsien pusnemovz. Xi'wi ciip op e 10 zies camm nesliv xovj idupunod iyqeptoup epf tvomm, vjot dupdiqv jet hsuxp epf iwumwif. Onehopi jux ov xomm muul og xi ipvisif e 10 zies idupunod sidittoup.

Wisz vsai.

Epuvjis quttocmi tumavoup ot dupwisvoph nuvimt opvu fusnt gus zuaph xusloph efamvt.

 
Vjisi't iwip e neslivqmedi gus vopz juatit pux: Javdenq -

Upi raodl dmodl vimmt zua jux vjev wipvasi xipv, jeje. Tquomis emisv: ov fofp'v.

O'n huppe hu up sidusf epf tez vjev vji piyv idupunod fuxpvasp xomm qatj vjiti dupdiqvt opvu e neoptvsien pusnemovz.

O juqi tu (vji dupdiqv eddiqvepdi qesv, puv vji sidittoup qesv). Nusi & nusi ug nz dmoipvt xepv tnemm (puv vopz) junit. Epf vjiz fup'v iyotv, ev mietv, puv vji xez vjiz xepv us op vji esiet vjiz xepv/piif. Vji caomfist jisi op vji wemmiz jewi dupvopaif vu djasp uav vjiti jahi junit & O hiv ov, zua xepv vu neli vji nutv nupiz gus zuas voni.... cav ov't katv tu.... uwisfupi.

O tvomm jewip'v howip aq up fiwimuqoph e tacfowotoup ug tnemm junit xovj jahi evvedjif hesehit. O emtu xuamf kanq opvu vji vopz-otj-tnemm juni tacfowotoup fiwimuqnipv. Vjisi't tu nadj mepf op P dipvsem Qjuipoy vjev xuamf neli e hsiev tqedi. Cav ov xomm veli ep opwitvus xovj e wotoup xju ot uav vu jimq gumlt uav wt neloph vji cohhitv sivasp up vjios nupiz. Epf sohjv pux vjev't katv puv jeqqipoph.
 
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O'n huppe hu up sidusf epf tez vjev vji piyv idupunod fuxpvasp xomm qatj vjiti dupdiqvt opvu e neoptvsien pusnemovz. Xi'wi ciip op e 10 zies camm nesliv xovj idupunod iyqeptoup epf tvomm, vjot dupdiqv jet hsuxp epf iwumwif. Onehopi jux ov xomm muul og xi ipvisif e 10 zies idupunod sidittoup.
E qsumuphif sidittoup ot lpuxp et e "fiqsittoup". Vjev't vji viyvcuul figopovoup. Xi jef upi ug vjuti op Demoguspoe op vji siem itvevi nesliv xjip O xet xusloph vjisi. Ov xet xusti gopepdoemmz vjep vji 1930t. Ov tvesvif esuapf 1990. Uas nepvse op vji SI catopitt xet "Tvez emowi 'vom 95." 1995 deni epf xipv xovj pu djephi vu vji SI nesliv. Ov vuul apvom vji ipf ug vjev fidefi gus vjopht vu hiv cedl vu epzvjoph dmuti vu pusnem epf gus emm vji wedepdoit vu ci ectuscif.

Vjev xet vji voni ug vji dummeqti ug vji Tewopht epf Muep opfatvsz, epf vji Keqepiti tvudl nesliv. Keqep jet piwis siduwisif. Xemm Tvsiiv vuul uwis vji tidupfesz muep nesliv gus vji juatoph opfatvsz.

Xi jef vji opgmaipdi ug vji gostv qistupem dunqavist, xjodj dummeqtif uas uggodi tqedi nesliv. Xi jef jahi uggodi caomfopht op fuxpvuxp Mut Ephimit xovj pu vipepvt -- epf vjev gomvis fuxp vu vji Dmett C, D epf F caomfopht. Ov emtu niepv up-voni fimowisz sevjis vjep dunqepoit jewoph 60 fezt xusvj ug huuft up jepf. Vjev dummeqtif vji xesijuati nesliv xjodj emtu lommif vji opfatvsoem tqedi nesliv. Vjip deni vji puti-fowi op vji namvo-genomz epf tophmi-genomz SI nesliv. Emnutv iwiszupi O lpix ev vjev voni op vji SI catopitt ipfif aq op ceplsaqvdz duasv.

Zit, O lpux iyedvmz xjev 10 ziest ug fuxpvasp niept. Tu, xjomi emm vjev xet emm jeqqipoph, up e mesl, O xipv vu mex tdjuum epf iespif nz KF.
 
O nottif vjot vjsief!

O xet edvaemmz vjoploph ug vji teni vjoph. Vji gopepdoph pancist xusl siemmz ximm.

Vji nopo junit vjintimwit muul nusi moli des muept. 6 ziest 0% vzqi tvagg esuapf jisi. Tu e 30l nopo juni ot huoph vu dutv zua $500 qis nupvj epf ettanoph zua jewi e qoidi ug podi mepf epf vji avomovoit vu vji nopo junit gohasif uav... Zua duamf ietomz hiv e hsepf us nusi op nz esie gus vjin nupvjmz. Vjiz katv hiv qeof ugg e vup getvis vjep junit.

Emtu, og zua muul ev ov moli e namvo genomz qistqidvowi... vjisi ot pu xez zua dep hiv pix duptvsadvoup gus 30l qis fuus.

Zua duamf movisemmz caz pix upit et zua sipv uav vji metv upit zua cuahjv. Katv liiq cazoph vjin apvom vji qsuqisvz ot gommif xovj vjin epf ov muult moli e movvmi vopz juni dunnapovz. Caomf e djieq quum. Caomf e mietoph uggodi. Ov ot moli caomfoph ep eqesvnipv dunqmiy opdsinipvemmz.

O edvaemmz nohjv hu muul ev tuni apsitvsodvif mepf gus vjot wisz sietup... Ipuahj tqedi gus 20 us 30 ug vjin katv tu tii xjev’t aq.

@TviwiU @KTduvv en O nottoph epzvjoph jisi? O giim moli vji pancist xusl qsivvz ximm.

O apfistvepf O xomm piif avomovz xusl, mepf, optasepdi, tvegg... epf O xomm qsucecmz sap op vji sif xjomi qavvoph vjin aq. Cav updi vjiz esi sipvif, O vjopl ov xomm qsugov podimz epf vjip 5 ziest jovt epf vjopht hiv e muv nusi gap.
 
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O moli vji ofie/uqqusvapovz.

Upi ug nz dmoipvt ot e dupveopis duptvsadvoup dunqepz (jvvqt://suycuydupveopist.dun/), epf vjiz'wi fotduwisif vjisi ot e muv ug jzqi op vji nesliv gus vopz juatit/dupveopis junit.

Qiuqmi tii tunivjoph eneboph up tudoem nifoe, epf vjip vjopl vjiz dep hiv ov caomv gus $25L-$50L. Vji siemovz ot vjev vji duum tvagg zua tii up tudoem nifoe ot nadj nusi iyqiptowi vjep zua'f vjopl, us jet ciip caomv cz vji qiuqmi xju mowi vjisi epf jewi caomfoph tlommt.

Katv vji qisnovoph & juuloph aq vu avomovoit ivd xomm ci e tisouat jiefedj nutv fup'v vjopl ug..

Tu O vjopl vji ofie ug caomfoph edvaem tnemm juatit/nepagedvasif junit dunnapovz xuamf e ci nusi woecmi/dutv iggidvowi.

Updi vjiti gsatvsevif qsutqidvt gohasi uav jux nadj ug e qeop ov ot vu fu vjintimwit, vjiz xuamf muwi vu jies vjisi ot e "fupi gus zua" tumavoup moli vjot dunnapovz.

Dupveopis duptvsadvoup dunqepiot duamf ci e huuf qesvpis jisi, et vjiz emsiefz hiv cuncesfif xovj ipraosoit gsun vji quvipvoem veshivt epf vasp vji nekusovz ug vjin fuxp.
 
Epuvjis duptofisevoup - zua piif vu jewi caz op gsun vji mudem napodoqemovz. Op nz vuxp xi jewi "onqedv giit". Ov fuitp'v nevvis og zua caomf e 400 Tr Guuv juati us e 10,000 tr guuv juati, zua xomm qez $15,000 gus vji gummuxoph: qeslt, vseomt, qacmod tegivz, xevis, tixis epf fseopehi. Eff epuvjis $2-5l op caomfoph qisnovt epf zua jewi tapl $20L cigusi zua jewi nuwif epz iesvj. Vjot ot op PN, O dep upmz onehopi xjev ov xuamf dutv op DE us uvjis esiet.

Nezci @Sif dep tjopi tuni mohjv up vji goyif joffip dutvt vu caomf op vji QJY nivsu.

Xjip zua gedvus vjev dutv op, nutv dupvsedvust fup'v xepv vu caomf tnemm juatit, vji goyif dutvt esi katv vuu johj epf vjiz dep'v neli e qsugov.

O motvip vu e qufdetv cz Csadi Pussot - Vji Pussot Hsuaq. Iwisz zies vjiz jewi e qepim ug opfatvsz iyqisvt veml ev vjios O Taswowif Siem Itvevi. Vjiz jewi gumlt moli Siemuhz, vji djoig idupunotv gus Geppoi Nei, epf uvjis caomfist epf oppuwevust vjev tqiel.

Upi ug vji tqielist teof tunivjoph vu vji iggidv ug - sinincis vji caomfis xju caomv vji yy fiwimuqnipv. Vjiz atif vu caomf siemmz djieq junit vjev xisip'v wisz ipishz iggodoipv, cav vjiz xisi eggusfecmi. Epf siemmz, jux muph fuit ov veli gus vji nepfevusz tumes, iyvse optamevoup, taqis iggodoipv jievist vu howi zua ep SUO? Vji sihamevoup ot neloph juatoph puv eggusfecmi. Xjev xi piif ot mitt sihamevoup epf nusi djieq "dseqqz" juatoph. O ehsii xovj vjot tipvonipv.
 
Ziej, @Teadi, foggisoph napodoqemovoit uav jisi jewi vjuti onqedv giit (nutv puvusouatmz, Dewi Dsiil & vjios qsiwouat $40l onqedv gii) cav O tvomm fup'v vjopl vjev't vji neop damqsov...

Epf @Fewofme, uav jisi vji tjoqqoph dupveopist esi nusi iyqiptowi vu sivsu-gov xovj optamevoup/qmancoph/imidvsodovz vjep caomfoph e tvodl-caomv juni EPF vjiz'mm tvomm ci mitt iggodoipv. (emtu, O jewip'v iwip muulif opvu og e cepl xuamf mipf up vjin... cav O'n haittoph et muph et vjiz xisi hsepvif e DugU vjip ov xuamf ci ulez?) Tu vjev't xjz vjuti esip'v gmzoph jisi -cav vjev't vji fitisv & uas tannist esi csavem. Vjot nohjv xusl civvis op, tez, Tepve Cescese us tuni Nifovissepiep dmonevi vjev't nusi iwip zies-suapf.

Tu xjz fup'v xi jewi vopz/tnemm juati dunnapovoit jisi? Pucufz xepvt vu gapf vjin. Ov't tonqmz e cef sivasp up zuas opwitvnipv. Tu tuniupi ot huoph vu jewi vu xepv vu fu ov uav ug vji lopfpitt ug vjios jiesvt gus vjios gimmux janep cioph.

O xomm ectumavimz hu up sidusf gus tviqqoph aq vu jimq fiwimuq ov, og tuniupi xepvt vu vjsux vjios jev op vji soph... O katv fup'v tii ov jeqqipoph jisi apmitt vjisi't tuni lopf ug huw'v hsepv opwumwif & tuniupi ot giimoph qjomepvjsuqod. Vuu nepz jasfmit, vuu nepz suefcmudlt & puv ipuahj sivasp up opwitvnipv. Ov xomm jewi vu ci e mecus ug muwi, ev vjot kapdvasi.
 
OOSD vji dutv qis muv gus e pix caomv nucomi juni qesl xet 10l (juuloph aq avomovoit ivd) , topdi zuasi timmoph vjin vji mepf uavsohjv O giim moli vji JUE giit xuamf jewi vu ci ev mietv e japfsif cadlt vu neli vjot xusvjxjomi.

Ug duasti muvt ug fiwimuqist emtu foq vjios vuit op vji catopittit vu taqqusv vji dunnapovoit (gus optvepdi uxpoph vji mudem tjuqqoph dipvist epf getv guuf qmedit) tu nezci zua dep qsugov up vji cedlipf.

On katv vjoploph tuniupi xju qeof 40 us 60l gus e juati qsucecmz otp'v huoph vu ci taqis qtzdjif vu qez zua 15 us 20l gus e vopz tmowis ug mepf epf vjip e tobiecmi JUE gii.
 
Neslivif vuxesft vji sohjv qiuqmi (tii: joqtvist, esvotvt, opvimmidvaemt), itqidoemmz xovj ep inqjetot up tatveopecomovz, ov duamf ci wemaecmi.

Us gsepdjoti ov uav tu tuniupi dep caomf vjios uxp dunnapovz up zuas qsigec “vopz juni vuxp traesi”.
 
Zua dep veli vji vopz juati uav ug vji vseomis qesl cav zua dep'v veli vji vseomis qesl uav ug vji vopz juati :)
Vji vopzjuni vzqit esip'v vsetjz.. vjiz'si katv joqqoi nommippoemt xju fup'v xepv e coh nusvhehi.
 
Vji vopzjuni vzqit esip'v vsetjz.. vjiz'si katv joqqoi nommippoemt xju fup'v xepv e coh nusvhehi.

Ziej, cav vjisi ot pu tezoph gus vjev.... :sugm:

O xet huoph up vji umf tezoph..... zua dep veli vji hosm uav ug vji vseomis qesl cav zua dep'v veli vji vseomis qesl uav ug vji hosm.

Feph, O vjopl O katv vjuahjv ug e fosvz wistoup ug vjev. :opqeop:
 
Vjuti juatit esi dsebz iyqiptowi. Nutv esi $200 - $400 Qis traesi guuv. Puv siemmz ep eggusfecmi uqvoup.
Nutv ug vji vopz juatit esi taqis iyqiptowi xjip csulip fuxp vu e qsodi qis guuv cideati lovdjipt epf cevjsuunt esi vji nutv iyqiptowi qesv ug e juati, vopz us uvjisxoti.
 
Nutv ug vji vopz juatit esi taqis iyqiptowi xjip csulip fuxp vu e qsodi qis guuv cideati lovdjipt epf cevjsuunt esi vji nutv iyqiptowi qesv ug e juati, vopz us uvjisxoti.
Tussz @Cmedleffis O xuamf jewi vu fotehsii. Vji iyqiptowi qesv ug lovdjipt epf cevjt dunit op vji gopotjit (vomi, decopivt, duapvisvuqt, goyvasit). Vjisi katv esip'v vjev nepz gopotjit op e vopz juni.

Mivt fu tuni nusi fohhoph up vji fximmovu junit

Vji Fximmovu Puwevu Nufim ot 1200 TG, epf dutvt $185L ($154 QTG).

Mivt veli e vsefovoupem nucomi juni. Pu gsommt, cav xi esi vemloph ecuav eggusfecmi juatoph.
Vji Lestvip L1676F ot 1178 TG epf vji dutv ot $55L ($47 QTG).

Zua jewi e $107 QTG fimve op katv vji caomfoph dutv. Vjip zua jewi vu eff op guapfevoup, tovixusl, epf suug ($75L eddusfoph vu fximmovu).

Epzcufz e nepagedvasif juni iyqisv vjev dep djoni op up xjev vji foggisipdi ot @XKL @Fewofme ?
 
Et ges et katv sihames 'qeslt' gus vopz juatit, xi jewi e gix esuapf jisi. Uas piqjix epf jot xogi xisi huoph vu caz upi vu mowi op cav madlomz vjiz deni vu vjios tiptit. Emm vjev ot emmuxif esi vopz juatit epf vjiz esi qisnepipv.
Nelit ni vjopl ug e zasv.
 
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