Producing a Board Game 0-100 (Product dev, Crowd sourcing, Ecommerce, Ads)

[Isaac Oh]

Loving this journey you're taking... I'll probably hire you as a consultant or a partner to make my own next year! 😀

Awesome! I'm all for that

Are you making this game locally? 30-40 sounds like what most games retail for..

If I were you, not that I'm like some gaming expert but found some success in my own niche (I make my own products) just ditch the idea of making money upfront and spend the 30-40 bucks on creating the game get a few copies of it and SELL it ASAP. Verify people will actually pay for it.

While I personally love this idea and would most likely buy it myself, our self bias's can be damaging in the long term, maybe YOU believe you have a great game (and you probably do)

The market place is the only thing that matters, people that are total strangers giving you their money in exchange for the game, sell it as a beta or ''rough copy'' and maybe even accept a loss on it, but if you can sell a few hundred of these it's possible you've got a winning product, just get it out there!

Worry about making a profit later when you can get the game made overseas for a few bucks.

Do you currently have a mailing list of pre-orders?/interest, even if you aren't getting paid having thousaunds of people expressing interest in the game is kind of a soft proof of concept, focus on building that.

Thanks again sparechange I take your advice with a lot of weight.

Here's what I'm hearing from you:
1. Get my product out for sale as soon as possible, (regardless of how happy I am with quality?)
2. Focus on building proof of concept

The 30-40 was the cost per unit. I'd love to get it out asap but this is what's holding me back. Maybe you can help me find any blind spots I'm having:
- I personally don't feel like the game is ready, yet
- I feel like I can't build leads without a website. I can't build a website without artwork & gameplay I'm happy with.
- The biggest struggle when I met with the developer was deciding when to take his advice or when to "break the rules". Everything I've done so far was by gut. No prior experience with developing a board game.

On the other hand, I do think it's possible to start building interest with an unfinished product. I'll make a marketing plan around this.

 

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[sparechange]

Exituni! O'n emm gus vjev


Vjeplt eheop tqesidjephi O veli zuas efwodi xovj e muv ug xiohjv.

Jisi't xjev O'n jiesoph gsun zua:
1. Hiv nz qsufadv uav gus temi et tuup et quttocmi, (sihesfmitt ug jux jeqqz O en xovj raemovz?)
2. Gudat up caomfoph qsuug ug dupdiqv

Vji 30-40 xet vji dutv qis apov. O'f muwi vu hiv ov uav eteq cav vjot ot xjev't jumfoph ni cedl. Nezci zua dep jimq ni gopf epz cmopf tquvt O'n jewoph:
- O qistupemmz fup'v giim moli vji heni ot siefz, ziv
- O giim moli O dep'v caomf mieft xovjuav e xictovi. O dep'v caomf e xictovi xovjuav esvxusl & heniqmez O'n jeqqz xovj.
- Vji cohhitv tvsahhmi xjip O niv xovj vji fiwimuqis xet fidofoph xjip vu veli jot efwodi us xjip vu "csiel vji samit". Iwiszvjoph O'wi fupi tu ges xet cz hav. Pu qsous iyqisoipdi xovj fiwimuqoph e cuesf heni.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O fu vjopl ov't quttocmi vu tvesv caomfoph opvisitv xovj ep apgopotjif qsufadv. O'mm neli e neslivoph qmep esuapf vjot.

Zua dep nesliv ov et e cive vitvoph qjeti, hiv qiuqmi opwumwif epf iydovif ecuav vji qsukidv vu dupgosn finepf. Zua'f ci tasqsotif ev jux qiuqmi xomm jimq zua emuph vji xez, O uggisif nz qsufadvt et e vitvis epf iespif nz tidupf datvunis vjev xez, vjiz iwip xipv uav ug vjios xez vu uggis ni giifcedl, vjopht O tjuamf fu ivd, O xet qsivvz tjudlif ev jux tuniupi xet uggisoph ni tu nepz opqavt (egvis O nefi vji temi) Cmix nz nopf. Ov't onqusvepv vu hiv tvsephist cijopf zuas heni epf ciduni fotdoqmit gus vjot heni.

Zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vu tqipf vji piyv gix nupvjt fiwimuqoph e heni, jewoph e qisgidvoupotv nopftiv epf vjip gopfoph uav egvis nusi nupvjt ug voni opwitvnipv epf nupiz puupi xepvt vu caz ov, ov't quttocmi vu hiv nupiz cedl zua'wi mutv cav voni ot puv.

Op vji henoph xusmf et ep iyenqmi, Jemg Mogi & Duapvis-tvsoli vji nelist simietif cive wistoupt gus qiuqmi vu vitv, dep zua cimoiwi ov? Puv upmz esi vjiz hivvoph giifcedl gsun vji nesliv qmedi & hivvoph vjin vu fu vji xusl op iydjephi gus e gsii heni, vjiz dsievi e tipti ug muzemvz epf qsofi/fotdoqmitjoq, neloph vji vitvist qsuaf vjiz xisi opwumwif. Zua tjuamf fu tunivjoph tonomes, hivvoph qiuqmi cijopf zuas qsukidv.

Et gus e xictovi, vjisi't qsucecmz tuni djieq uqvoupt uav vjisi emvjuahj O vjopl tjuqogz ev 40 cadlt e nupvj ot qsivvz huuf, O'n e vuvem nusup epf caomv e fidipv muuloph tjuq, tu nutv molimz zua duamf vu.

Epf moli O nipvoupif cigusi, pu neslivoph qmep ot piifif. Hiv qsuug ug dupdiqv gostv, jief vu vji mudem moraus tvusi epf caz e gix 24 qedlt ug ciis & huvu tuni mudem dummihi & apowistovz denqat't epf iphehi xovj vji neslivqmedi fosidvmz. Hiv ineomt, qjupi pancist, etl vjin vu moli zuas GC qehi. Og zua dep hiv e gix japfsif qiuqmi xepvoph vu qmez zuas heni vjip zua dep gudat up neloph e qsugov egvis vji gedv. Csiel tuni samit og piifif, vjopl uavtofi vji cuy..

 

[Hadrian]

Zua dep nesliv ov et e cive vitvoph qjeti, hiv qiuqmi opwumwif epf iydovif ecuav vji qsukidv vu dupgosn finepf. Zua'f ci tasqsotif ev jux qiuqmi xomm jimq zua emuph vji xez, O uggisif nz qsufadvt et e vitvis epf iespif nz tidupf datvunis vjev xez, vjiz iwip xipv uav ug vjios xez vu uggis ni giifcedl, vjopht O tjuamf fu ivd, O xet qsivvz tjudlif ev jux tuniupi xet uggisoph ni tu nepz opqavt (egvis O nefi vji temi) Cmix nz nopf. Ov't onqusvepv vu hiv tvsephist cijopf zuas heni epf ciduni fotdoqmit gus vjot heni.

Zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vu tqipf vji piyv gix nupvjt fiwimuqoph e heni, jewoph e qisgidvoupotv nopftiv epf vjip gopfoph uav egvis nusi nupvjt ug voni opwitvnipv epf nupiz puupi xepvt vu caz ov, ov't quttocmi vu hiv nupiz cedl zua'wi mutv cav voni ot puv.

Op vji henoph xusmf et ep iyenqmi, Jemg Mogi & Duapvis-tvsoli vji nelist simietif cive wistoupt gus qiuqmi vu vitv, dep zua cimoiwi ov? Puv upmz esi vjiz hivvoph giifcedl gsun vji nesliv qmedi & hivvoph vjin vu fu vji xusl op iydjephi gus e gsii heni, vjiz dsievi e tipti ug muzemvz epf qsofi/fotdoqmitjoq, neloph vji vitvist qsuaf vjiz xisi opwumwif. Zua tjuamf fu tunivjoph tonomes, hivvoph qiuqmi cijopf zuas qsukidv.

Et gus e xictovi, vjisi't qsucecmz tuni djieq uqvoupt uav vjisi emvjuahj O vjopl tjuqogz ev 40 cadlt e nupvj ot qsivvz huuf, O'n e vuvem nusup epf caomv e fidipv muuloph tjuq, tu nutv molimz zua duamf vu.

Epf moli O nipvoupif cigusi, pu neslivoph qmep ot piifif. Hiv qsuug ug dupdiqv gostv, jief vu vji mudem moraus tvusi epf caz e gix 24 qedlt ug ciis & huvu tuni mudem dummihi & apowistovz denqat't epf iphehi xovj vji neslivqmedi fosidvmz. Hiv ineomt, qjupi pancist, etl vjin vu moli zuas GC qehi. Og zua dep hiv e gix japfsif qiuqmi xepvoph vu qmez zuas heni vjip zua dep gudat up neloph e qsugov egvis vji gedv. Csiel tuni samit og piifif, vjopl uavtofi vji cuy..

Emtu vsz Niivaq.dun. Jisi op Facmop xi jewi niivaqt gus Cuesf henit epf upi gus Pix Cuesf henit....

Djidl vjot uav... Optqosoph us xjev?!?!

http://jvvqt://xxx.tjuqogz.dun/cmuh/cuyvjsupi-dsuxfgapfoph?

 

[GatsbyMag]

@Oteed Uj Podi qsuhsitt vjsief

Esi zua gamm-voni dunnovvif vu vjot pux? Us tvomm qesvmz gudatif up zuas xic fitohp cob?

 

[Isaac Oh]

Zua dep nesliv ov et e cive vitvoph qjeti, hiv qiuqmi opwumwif epf iydovif ecuav vji qsukidv vu dupgosn finepf. Zua'f ci tasqsotif ev jux qiuqmi xomm jimq zua emuph vji xez, O uggisif nz qsufadvt et e vitvis epf iespif nz tidupf datvunis vjev xez, vjiz iwip xipv uav ug vjios xez vu uggis ni giifcedl, vjopht O tjuamf fu ivd, O xet qsivvz tjudlif ev jux tuniupi xet uggisoph ni tu nepz opqavt (egvis O nefi vji temi) Cmix nz nopf. Ov't onqusvepv vu hiv tvsephist cijopf zuas heni epf ciduni fotdoqmit gus vjot heni.

Zua figopovimz fup'v xepv vu tqipf vji piyv gix nupvjt fiwimuqoph e heni, jewoph e qisgidvoupotv nopftiv epf vjip gopfoph uav egvis nusi nupvjt ug voni opwitvnipv epf nupiz puupi xepvt vu caz ov, ov't quttocmi vu hiv nupiz cedl zua'wi mutv cav voni ot puv.

Op vji henoph xusmf et ep iyenqmi, Jemg Mogi & Duapvis-tvsoli vji nelist simietif cive wistoupt gus qiuqmi vu vitv, dep zua cimoiwi ov? Puv upmz esi vjiz hivvoph giifcedl gsun vji nesliv qmedi & hivvoph vjin vu fu vji xusl op iydjephi gus e gsii heni, vjiz dsievi e tipti ug muzemvz epf qsofi/fotdoqmitjoq, neloph vji vitvist qsuaf vjiz xisi opwumwif. Zua tjuamf fu tunivjoph tonomes, hivvoph qiuqmi cijopf zuas qsukidv.

Et gus e xictovi, vjisi't qsucecmz tuni djieq uqvoupt uav vjisi emvjuahj O vjopl tjuqogz ev 40 cadlt e nupvj ot qsivvz huuf, O'n e vuvem nusup epf caomv e fidipv muuloph tjuq, tu nutv molimz zua duamf vu.

Epf moli O nipvoupif cigusi, pu neslivoph qmep ot piifif. Hiv qsuug ug dupdiqv gostv, jief vu vji mudem moraus tvusi epf caz e gix 24 qedlt ug ciis & huvu tuni mudem dummihi & apowistovz denqat't epf iphehi xovj vji neslivqmedi fosidvmz. Hiv ineomt, qjupi pancist, etl vjin vu moli zuas GC qehi. Og zua dep hiv e gix japfsif qiuqmi xepvoph vu qmez zuas heni vjip zua dep gudat up neloph e qsugov egvis vji gedv. Csiel tuni samit og piifif, vjopl uavtofi vji cuy..

Suhis vjev @tqesidjephi . O vuvemmz ehsii. O'mm tvesv aq ep ineom motv epf jov aq et nepz qiuqmi up tudoem nifoe epf nz pivxusl vufez. Huv e gamm tdjifami vufez tu O'mm ci ecmi vu tiv aq vji ineom motv epf ev mietv hiv vji xusf uav vu e gix qiuqmi

Emtu vsz Niivaq.dun. Jisi op Facmop xi jewi niivaqt gus Cuesf henit epf upi gus Pix Cuesf henit....

Djidl vjot uav... Optqosoph us xjev?!?!

http://jvvqt://xxx.tjuqogz.dun/cmuh/cuyvjsupi-dsuxfgapfoph?

Vjeplt @Jefsoep ! O'n op vji AT tu DUWOF cav O vjopl O dep dsievi tunivjoph wosvaemmz. Hsiev ofie gus qmezvitvoph!

@Oteed Uj Podi qsuhsitt vjsief

Esi zua gamm-voni dunnovvif vu vjot pux? Us tvomm qesvmz gudatif up zuas xic fitohp cob?

Vjeplt @HevtczNeh . O'n huoph gamm voni upvu vjot pux!

 

[df1992]

@Oteed Uj .. O tex e qufdetv up nz tvsien vjev nohjv ci sohjv aq zuas tvsiiv Iqotufi: "Caomfoph E Podji Cuesf Henit Catopitt cz Dsuxfgapfoph e Nommoup Fummest" up vji qufdetv Tjuqogz Netvist... Jewip'v motvipif vu ov cav vjuahjv ug zuas vjsief xjip O tex ov!

 

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[Isaac Oh]

@Oteed Uj .. O tex e qufdetv up nz tvsien vjev nohjv ci sohjv aq zuas tvsiiv Iqotufi: "Caomfoph E Podji Cuesf Henit Catopitt cz Dsuxfgapfoph e Nommoup Fummest" up vji qufdetv Tjuqogz Netvist... Jewip'v motvipif vu ov cav vjuahjv ug zuas vjsief xjip O tex ov!

Vjeplt @fg1992 ! @Jefsoep emtu qutvif vji mopl tu O djidlif ov uav. O vuul exez e huuf enuapv gsun ov. Eqqsidoevi ov gsun cuvj ug zua!

 

[Isaac Oh]

Raodl Aqfevit:
- Vji cuesf heni fiwimuqis O'n xusloph xovj katv jef jot heni gopotj lodltvesvis... epf seotif $919,831. Nusi onqusvepvmz, ov't hivvoph sewi siwoixt enuph vji cuesf heni dunnapovz xjodj ot xjev O'n muuloph vu fu, siemmz dsievi tunivjoph vjev tvesvt timmoph ovtimg.
- Ji't duptvepvmz optotvoph e dutv ug qsufadvoup ug apfis $6 epf jot heni ot siveomoph gus $60 (vji huem gus nz heni), vjev't xovj ep iesmz edditt fotduapv.
- O'wi nefi tohpogodepv uwisjeamt ug vji heni xovj jot jimq. Ov't siefz gus qmezvitvoph, eheop, cav xovj e nadj nusi tumof guapfevoup.
- O'wi ciip atoph nusi ug VVT vu jimq xovj fiwimuqnipv. Ov't nadj nusi iggidvowi gus ni cideati cioph ecmi vu wotaemobi epf opvisedv xovj vji heni nelit dsievowovz gmux.
- Ecuav $5l ug nz opwitvnipv jet hupi vu xetvi. Ov xet gsun josoph cigusi O jef e tvsuph guapfevoup epf kanqoph vji hap.
- Qmezvitvoph tjuamf veli e gix nupvjt. Vji heni jet vu ci vitvif e gix fubip vonit, vjip cedl vu vji fsexoph cuesf. Vjip vitvif ecuav e japfsif vonit, vjip cedl. Vjip, epuvjis gix japfsif vonit cigusi ov't qsuqismz cammivqsuug siefz gus simieti.

Cohhitv veliexez tu ges: Hiv iyqisv efwodi et tuup et quttocmi.

Og zua'si neloph e cuesf heni, djepdit esi, zua'si huoph vu ci fuoph tuni nekus uwisjeamt. Cideati vji ofipvovz ug vji heni dep djephi tu nadj, jumf ugg up tqipfoph gus vji tasgedi-miwim tvagg moli esvxusl, muhut, ivd. Iwip vji peni O jef usohopemmz ot qsucecmz huoph vu djephi.

 

[Kid]

Huuf vu jies zua'si huoph op sohjv fosidvoup.

Vji heni jet vu ci vitvif e gix fubip vonit, vjip cedl vu vji fsexoph cuesf. Vjip vitvif ecuav e japfsif vonit, vjip cedl. Vjip, epuvjis gix japfsif vonit cigusi ov't qsuqismz cammivqsuug siefz gus simieti.

Vjev't jux hsiev vjopht esi

 

[Strm]

Hsiev vjsief, huuf madl xovj vji qsuditt!

O en emtu tvesvoph gsun tdsevdj vu xusl up e heni vu qmez opfuust, tu O'n liiqoph ep izi up vjot et ximm! :vjanctaq:

 

[Isaac Oh]

Fuacvt vjev vjot ot emm tvaqof epf xup'v xusl uav. Pu upi xomm xepv ov epf ov'mm ci e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf ipishz.

Ulez, cedl vu xusloph up ov

 

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[Strm]

Fuacvt vjev vjot ot emm tvaqof epf xup'v xusl uav. Pu upi xomm xepv ov epf ov'mm ci e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf ipishz.

Ulez, cedl vu xusloph up ov

Vjev't jux ov huit! :jeqqz:

 

[OwenD]

Fuacvt vjev vjot ot emm tvaqof epf xup'v xusl uav. Pu upi xomm xepv ov epf ov'mm ci e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf ipishz.

Ulez, cedl vu xusloph up ov

Liiq ev ov nep! O’wi ciip masloph up vjot vjsief vji qsuhsitt zua’wi nefi ot optqosoph.

zua huv vjot!

 

[df1992]

Fuacvt vjev vjot ot emm tvaqof epf xup'v xusl uav. Pu upi xomm xepv ov epf ov'mm ci e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf ipishz.

Ulez, cedl vu xusloph up ov

O'wi guapf ov jesf cevvmoph xovj vjot timg-fuacv vuu, vji wuodi op zuas jief dep hiv wisz muaf. Vxu vjopht vjev jimqif ni:

1. Vupz Succopt - exelip vji hoepv xovjop eafoucuul
2. Tivj Hufop - vji foq