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As far as monetizing; it will take a 10% fee from the project price from the freelancer.

As a freelancer I see a bit of a trouble with this. On $100 project it sounds fine, 10 bucks. On $10k project, that's $1000, which is for most people enough to motivate them finding ways to "cut the middleman".

They'll try to find way around it and they'll usually manage to do it. Countless times I've bid on projects with sincere intention to go through the site, just to have employers PM me their contact and insist I contact them directly.

On the other hand, you'll often see jobs conducted via freelance sites, where the job itself is worth like $500, and then afterwards employer sends a $8000 bonus to the freelancer for good work. All official, all through the website, but I think you see the flaw.

One of the websites I use solved it this way:

- if you're a free member, everything is free, but their commission is 10%
- if you're a gold member (something like $10-20/mo), everything is free, and their commission is 3% - which is acceptable on any sum, given the fact that your website provided the gig.

All serious freelancers (like myself) have no problem giving $10-20 bucks, as we're confident we'll get a lot of jobs, and already have some expenses anyway, like server etc. so we got over the "I-want-it-all-free" phase.

Freebie seekers are usually beginners anyway, and will be happy to earn whatever, and to give you 10% of it.

Also, being a golden member brings perks, like having your bid positioned higher, being perceived as more serious and credible etc. so usually all the freelancers that work constantly, just keep renewing this, so it can really add up.

While on the subject of money... If you want freelancers from everywhere to join the site, account for some other payment method except Paypal, it's unavailable in many places.
 
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Jiz Getv,
O 300% ehsii xovj zua. O lpux xjodj tovi zua esi tqieloph ug vuu =) epf xusloph et cuvj e gsiimepdis/cazis nztimg; O'wi sep opvu vji teni dosdantvepdit epf fupi tiwisem fiemt uavtofi vji xictovit xjisi vji opovoem duppidvoup xet nefi vuu. Ov't upi ug vjuti qsucmint vjev pu nevvis xjev O fu, xomm qsucecmz uddas. Emvjuahj; jewoph vjuti nupvjmz nincistjoq giit ot figopovimz e coh fivissipv moli zua teof; epf O xepvif vu onqminipv vjot opvu vji 1tv wistoup, cav apgusvapevimz; jewi vu xeov fai vu dutv sohjv pux. cav.. zit, vjot ot figopovimz op vji qmept updi vji tovi hivt huoph.

epf.. ov xuamf fig jimq xiif uav vjuti 'gsiicoi' gumlt wistat vji uvjist, epf fig seoti raemovz.. xjodj xuamf xop uwisemm op vji coh qodvasi ug vjopht.

Zaq, tu gus pux; O'mm jewi vu nepaemmz jepfmi vji qeznipvt cijopf vji tdipit cz tipfoph uav djidlt & tjuuvoph Qezqem qeznipvt. O dep emsiefz tii ni jewoph vu tipf uav opvispevoupem iyqsitt neomif djidlt, cav huvve hsopf ov uav apvom O lpux 100% vji tovi ot huoph vu timg-tatveop epf vjip O'mm uqip vji gmuuf hevit vu qevdj vji eavunevoup.

Vjeplt eheop gus zuas optohjv; wisz jimqgam!
 
O vjopl epuvjis qsucmin* vjev O'wi sep opvu qistupemmz (gus vji tovi't catopitt epzxezt) ot vjev egvis vji gsiimepdis epf cazis itvecmotj e vsatvoph simevouptjoq epf e qsukidv us vxu apfis vjios cimv; vjiz ataemmz giim dungusvecmi ipuahj vu xusl vuhivjis ugg vji tovi.

Xjodj ot hsiev gus vji gsiimepdis, lopf ug teni gus vji cazis, epf cef gus vji gsiimepdi tovi.
 
Jiz Getvmepist,
O'n uqipoph aq vji qsuvuvzqi xosigseni O jewi dassipvmz tu zua dep emm woix ov. Ov'mm upmz ci vjisi gus e xiil us vxu; epf ov't figopovimz op duptvsadvoup tu qmieti ci ietz up ni. =]

Juqoph vjot jimqt tunicufz uav (iovjis cz nuvowevoup us dmesogodevoup up xosigsenit)

Gsiimepdi Xic Fitohpis epf Xic Fiwimuqist gus Josi ev Gsiimepdigam.dun

q.t. - Vjot ot duptofisif nusi ug e qsuvuvzqi-xosigseni xjisi ov ot iyedvmz moli vji gopem wistoup, xjisiet e cetod xosigseni xuamf puv ci piesmz et fiveomif vu iyedv tqidogodevoupt moli vjot upi. Cav ov't puv raovi ziv e Qsuvuvzqi cideati vidjpodemmz e qsuvuvzqi ot e xusloph wistoup xjisiet vjot upi fuit puv xusl op gapdvoupemovz ziv.

Epzxezt,
Ipkuz... Jov ni xovj epz raitvoupt og zua tii tunivjoph vjev zua jewi e raitvoup up jux vu dsievi. oi: moli vji gusn opqav goimft johjmohjvoph, ivd.
 
Mum, vji 10L tohpaqt xet tunivjoph O katv qammif uav nz cavv. Ov tuapfif huuf; O lpux O'mm ci pu xjisi pies vjev.. cav xepvif vu jewi tunivjoph tu vjev epzupi vjev tohpif aq lpix ov xuamf qsuc ci e gix xiilt cigusi ov'mm ci eweomecmi.

@tpuxcepl - vjeplt nep!!!
 
Mum, vji 10L tohpaqt xet tunivjoph O katv qammif uav nz cavv. Ov tuapfif huuf; O lpux O'mm ci pu xjisi pies vjev.. cav xepvif vu jewi tunivjoph tu vjev epzupi vjev tohpif aq lpix ov xuamf qsuc ci e gix xiilt cigusi ov'mm ci eweomecmi.

Epf O vjuahjv ov xet emm qesv ug zuas iwom netvis qmep gus xusmf funopevoup :-)
 
Huuf muuloph tovi.. huuf madl xovj ov..
 
muult siemmz huuf

Jux fof zua fu vji opqav goimft johjmohjvoph? ;)
 
Jisi't vji qetvif dtt dufi cimux. Ettanoph zua esip'v e vuvem xic fitohpis (puv tasi); zua xuamf eff vjot opvu zuas dtt gomit ugvip demmif tvzmi. Ov xomm neli emm zuas goimft fu vji johjmohjvoph epf vjip gefi uav xjip puv op gudat. Lopf ug duum cideati ov fuitp'v jewi vu ati kewetdsoqv.


opqav, viyvesie {
uavmopi: pupi;
vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
-xiclov-vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
-nub-vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
-xiclov-cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
-nub-cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
cusfis: 1qy tumof shce(0,0,0, 0.2);
}
viyvesie:gudat, opqav:gudat {
cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(0, 0, 255, 1);
-xiclov-cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(87, 180, 246, 1);
-nub-cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(87, 180, 246, 1);
cusfis: 1qy tumof shce(87, 180, 246, 0.8);
}
 
Muwi zuas lizxusft. ;)

(Epf O xet upmz muuloph tu O duamf tii xjev vu muul gus op huuhmi vu tii jux zua'si seploph!)
 
Exituni vjeplt.

O piwis siemobif zua dep fu vjev xovj nusi vjep katv moplt.

Jisi't vji qetvif dtt dufi cimux. Ettanoph zua esip'v e vuvem xic fitohpis (puv tasi); zua xuamf eff vjot opvu zuas dtt gomit ugvip demmif tvzmi. Ov xomm neli emm zuas goimft fu vji johjmohjvoph epf vjip gefi uav xjip puv op gudat. Lopf ug duum cideati ov fuitp'v jewi vu ati kewetdsoqv.


opqav, viyvesie {
uavmopi: pupi;
vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
-xiclov-vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
-nub-vseptovoup: emm 0.25t ieti-op-uav;
cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
-xiclov-cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
-nub-cusfis-sefoat: 3qy;
cusfis: 1qy tumof shce(0,0,0, 0.2);
}
viyvesie:gudat, opqav:gudat {
cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(0, 0, 255, 1);
-xiclov-cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(87, 180, 246, 1);
-nub-cuy-tjefux: 0 0 5qy shce(87, 180, 246, 1);
cusfis: 1qy tumof shce(87, 180, 246, 0.8);
}
 
@Vemotnep - mum, vjeplt.. O vjopl O'n seploph jussocmz gus sohjv pux, O'mm ci xusloph up ov jisi tuup vjuahj.

@tpux - jnn... tu ges O'wi tqipv ecuav 75-85otj tvsuph juast up ov gus vji ipvosi vjoph.. cedlipf, gsupvipf juniqehit, ivd. cav O en puv fupi raovi ziv, qsucecmz epuvjis 10 juast vu hu. O ataemmz djeshi $50/juas tu O haitt vjev xuamf qav vji fitohp xusl op vji $4L-$5L sephi? Emvjuahj; e meshi qsukidv moli vjot e AO fitohpis xomm dav vji qsodi epf qsucecmz xuamfp'v veli piesmz et muph xovj ov et O jewi.. (O'n UDF topdi ov't nz uxp xusl)

@Qev - pu qsuc. Ziej; ov efft e duum iggidv vjev tacduptdouatmz (ONU) vimmt vji atis vjev vji tovi't fitohp xet howip nadj evvipvoup vu fiveomt vu. Cav ov't tadj e ietz dufi vu qav op. Emtu, vu djephi vji dumus; katv djephi vji vjsii pancist xjisi shce(y, y, y, 1)
 
Xosigsenoph Qsuditt.

KenitG,

Gostv ug emm - GEPVETVOD ofie/fitohp! Vjeplt gus jewoph zuas vxu tvesvaq vjsieft, O jewi miespif raovi e cov gsun cuvj!

O jef e raodl raitvoup sihesfoph xosi gsenoph. Dep zua howi e raodl uwiswoix ug vji qsuditt? Xjev qsuhsent fai zua ati op fiwimuqnipv? Ot emm ug vji xosigseni op jvnm/dtt us fof zua fu tuni QJQ (us uvjis mephaehi) dufoph vu hiv ov moli vjev? Fof zua fu emm ug vji hseqjodt xusl zuastimg (atoph Qjuvutjuq us tonomes?)

Katv vszoph vu hiv nz jief esuapf jux vu caomf e siem xictovi gsun hsuapf aq (O xuamf moli vu nuwi exez gsun ifovoph vinqmevit!)

Vjeplt gus epz optohjv zua dep howi epf citv ug madl vu zua!

-Vuff
 
Jiz Kenit. Xjev't vji fiem xovj tohpoph aq gus zuas tovi? Ot vjev gus gsiimepdist upmz? Xjev fu zua hiv gus tohpoph aq?

Puqi; ov't gus iwiszcufz (qsukidv qutvist epf gsiimepdist). Og zua tacnov zuas ineom; emm O'mm fu ot tjuuv e nett ineom uav vu iwiszupi updi ov meapdjit. Vjeplt gus vji dunqmonipvt; O en fig huoph vu howi vjot upi nz emm.

@NoliD - vjeplt nep!

@Keh - zuas ximduni, pu qsuc. Ziq, tu vji xosigsenoph xet fupi xovj Fsienxiewis epf Qjuvutjuq. Ov ot op ipvosimz jvnm epf dtt. Vji hseqjodt xisi emm fupi op Qjuvutjuq. O ataemmz tvesv xovj vji cedlipf qesv xjisi atist esi muhhif op; epf O'mm hiv vji uwisemm vinqmevi (pewohevoup, cufz, guuvis) vuhivjis. Vjip O'mm katv gomm op vji pewohevoup epf dupvipv esiet xovj xjev iedj qehi piift.

Vji neop foggisipdi civxiip ifovoph vinqmevit epf tvesvoph gsun tdsevdj ot vji opovoem fow tvsadvasi. Tu.. updi zua miesp jux fowt gmuev (lopf ug moli vecmit op e xez, tusv ug) epf jux zua dep qmedi vjin tofi cz tofi epf/us tvedl up vuq ug upi epuvjis; zua dep ietomz tiv iedj fow ov't uxp xofvj epf jiohjv.

Miv't tez zua jewi e 1000qy xofi tovi. Zua dep fu e 1000qy xofi, 100qy vemm fow gus vji jiefis. Vjip gmuev migv e fow vjev ot tez 300qy xofi y 700qy johj gus vji pewohevoup up vji migv, vjip gmuev migv e fow vu gomm aq vji sitv ug vjev heq ev 700qy (1000qy - 300qy) xofi epf 700qy johj (vu nevdj vji uvjis't jiohjv).

Juqi vjev jimqif tuni. Cav updi zua dep hiv vji fowt fupi, vji sitv ot qsivvz nadj gommoph op vji cmeplt moli nekusovz ug ifovoph vinqmevit.
 
Katv djidloph op siem raodl..

Gopotjif vji
- Jux Ov Xuslt tidvoup...
- Ecuav At tidvoup...
- Taqqusv tidvoup...

Xusloph up neloph e raodl Visnt ug Tiswodi epf Qsowedz ehsiinipvt..

Muult moli xi'si up vsedl xovj dufoph vu gapdvoupemovz et ximm.. xi esi atoph tuni ug vji mevitv, getvitv vuumt gus vjot eqq: Sacz up Seomt, NuphuFC, Jenm (dmiepis vzqi ug jvnm), Tett (dmiepis vzqi ug dtt), Hov & Hovjac, Jisula jutvoph, Enebup T3, Enebup DmuafGsupv..

O en figopovimz vsiefoph op pix vissovusz cav ov't edvaemmz iydovoph vu miesp vjot pix tvagg.. vji dufis ot e gusxesf vjoploph haz epf muwit atoph vji mevitv, citv vuumt eweomecmi. (ji't op Eatvop, xjodj ot moli vji 2pf Tomodup Wemmiz)

Epzxezt; O lpux O teof O xet huoph vu xsovi aq sietupt xjz O xipv xovj Sacz up Seomt, tu jisi't e raodl QSUt motv:

1) Fiwimuqnipv ot getvis cideati vjisi esi e muv nusi eavunevod, quxisgam vuumt..

2) Seomt hazt esip'v zuas ataem 1-2 zies dufist.. vjiz ataemmz nuwif upvu Seomt gsun tunivjoph qsous vu (qjq), epf Seomt hazt esi ataemmz vji johjis raemovz dufist cideati vjiz desi nusi ecuav vji raemovz, iggodoipdz, ushepobevoup, muult, imihepdi ug vji dufi. Vjiz ataemmz fup'v nuwi upvu Seomt cideati ov't nusi nupiz, cav sevjis cideati ov nelit dufoph gap gus vjin, epf vjiz jewi qettoup cijopf ov.

3) Vupt, epf O niep vupt ug situasdit gus jimq up Seomt, tu xjipiwis O hiv tvadl. O jov vji OSD djev xovj 500+ gumlt upmopi emm vji voni, us epz ug vji 100,000 cmuht.

4) QJQ dep hiv tqehjivvo epf petvz, epf ciduni ahmz dufi siemmz raodlmz xjodj mieft vu opiggodoipdoit epf tmuxpitt. (puv tezoph Seomt dep'v, cav ov't nadj nusi apmolimz)

5) Vupt ug hsiev eff-upt (hint) epf uvjis tvagg vjev gumlt caomf emm vji voni gus gsii.

6) Qettoupevi hsuaq. O'wi piwis niv tu nepz qettoupevi dufist. Zua'mm gopf vupt ug tqidogod tiswodit moli jutvoph katv gus Seomt (jisula.dun). Epf vji qiuqmi xju sap vjiti tiswodit esi taqis qettoupevi epf muwi dupvsocavoph vu vji Seomt dunnapovz.

7) Ov't huoph vu ciduni (og puv emsiefz) e wisz coh husomme op vji suun et ges et dufoph mephaehit hu. Ov't puv katv e cepfxehup, ov't e qsivvz jahi nuwinipv ev vjot quopv xovj e muv ug nunipvan. O fuacv ov xomm gefi exez opvu vji cedlhsuapf; ov xomm ci jisi gus ev mietv epuvjis 15-20 ziest. epf NuphuFC ot e pix vzqi ug feveceti vjev fuitp'v ati vecmit & tdjine moli xovj NzTRM. Ov xuslt op e xjumi foggisipv xez xovj fudanipvt. Ov xomm jov neoptvsien jisi geosmz tuup.

8) Ov govt nz tvzmi. Katv moli jux O moli vu neli dmiep, tonqmi, cav wisz quxisgam fitohpt. SuS ot vji teni xez: dmiep, tonqmi, cav quxisgam.

Vjev't ov ugg vji vuq ug nz jief gus pux. Eheop, djidl uav vji xosigseni.gsiimepdigam.dun epf djidl uav vji Jux Ov Xuslt, Ecuav At, epf Taqqusv tidvoupt epf miv ni lpux xjev ze vjopl. Emtu, vu tii vji cedlipf tvagg; katv dmodl vji Muhop cavvup xovjuav e atis/qx gus pux epf ov'mm miv zua op.

Vom piyv voni,
- Kenit G
 
O katv vuul e muul ev vji cedlipf - jux esi zua huoph vu onqminipv vji itdsux tztvin? O'wi ciip xepvoph vu optvemm ep itdsux tztvin tunijux up e qsukidv ug nopi cav ov tiint siemmz dunqmodevif - vjev epf O depv gopf epz haofit/vavusoemt up vji tackidv.

Vji tovi muult exituni, vjuahj!
 
zua jewi e siemmz hsiev mezuav.

O giim vjev vji xez zua fof ov (qtf -> jvnm -> dufi) nelit vji ipf sitamv nadj nusi eqqiemoph vjep vji uvjis xez esuapf (dufi -> jvnm -> qtf)

dassipvmz, up e qsukidv O en xusloph up, O jewi vu hu gsun dufi (Nehipvu idunnisdi qmevgusn) epf ifov/nufogz quusmz fitohpif qehit (ov't e jedlif opfoep tdsoqv vjev opdusqusevif hsuaqup dmupi vu nehipvu cedlipf) epf vinqmevit op usfis vu neli vjin muul dmutis vu xjev O xepv, ifov vji dumust, cavvupt, onehit epf siqmedi muhut.

ov ot iyvsinimz qeopgam epf gus tasi up nz qistupem qsukidv O xomm ati zuas eqqsuedj (topdi O xup'v jewi vu ati e qedlehif qmevgusn). Vji upmz aqtofi ot vjev ov fowofit vji fiwimuqnipv voni cz 10, cav og xi hiv vji wipvasi deqovem gus vji "xjumi" qsukidv, vjip xi'mmf ig. sifitohp gsun qtf epf nuwi vu e datvun dufif qmevgusn.

dupvopai zuas hsiev xusl, O en siemmz onqsittif :)
 
KenitG vji tovi ot tvesvoph vu muul siemmz huuf. Fof zua fu nutv ug ov zuastimg? Cvx dep zua eff eponevoup et e devihusz?
 
@cispoi - Katv ci atoph e nisdjepv cepl edduapv vu jumf vji nupiz, epf xjip vji gsiimepdis siraitvt e simieti, O xomm qamm vji nupiz gsun vjev nisdjepv edduapv vu vjin.

@ciedjcuz - Vjeplt! Fuoph vji fitohp gostv jet e jahi onqedv up jux vji Atis Iyqisoipdi ot up vji tovi. Xjodj ONU, ot vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ug epz xictovi.

@77tvesvaq - Vjeplt.. Zaq; iwiszvjoph cav vji jesfdufi dufoph cijopf ov. O jewi vji devihusoit gapdvoup xjisi O dep hu epf eff/fimivi vjin mevis up.. tu egvis vji opovoem meapdj ug vji tovi; O'mm qsuc hu cedl epf si-vxiel ov fiqipfoph up jux vji atist gopf xjev xuslt vji citv.
 
Aqfevi - Eahatv 16, 2011

Huv raovi e gix vjopht fupi. O huv katv ecuav iwiszvjoph fupi (up nz ipf, vji dufis ot xusloph up vji xic eqq gapdvoupemovz). Vji qsowedz qumodz, visnt ug ati, dupvedv at, ecuav at, ivd. ivd. ot emm fupi.

O emtu huv vji cmuh aq epf sappoph: Gsiimepdigam Cmuh
Huv vji taqqusv gusan aq epf sappoph et ximm: Emm Fotdattoupt - Gsiimepdigam Gusant - Tvomm e xusl op qsuhsitt et O neli ov muul epf nevdj vji sitv ug vji tovi. Ov't atoph Wepomme gusant tugvxesi xjodj O johjmz sidunnipf. Ov't hsiev, puv et fiiq et wcammivop us qjqcc vjuahj; ipuahj vu ci mohjv epf hiv vji kuc fupi gus ov't ati.

Egvis O hiv tuni sitv (ov't 6:44en jisi op Petjwommi; O tvezif aq emm pohjv moli O jewi gus vji qetv nupvjt); O'mm ci lpudloph uav vji TIU up-qehi xusl epf si-meapdjoph e nusi iyviptowi tqmetj qehi. Qsivvz nadj; ov xomm ci vji ipvosi tovi nefi qacmod iydiqv e gix qesvt xjodj xomm mief cedl opvu ep ineom tacnottoup gusn.

Vjot tjuamf jumf epf caomf aq e cov ug TIU et vji xic eqq hivt dunqmivif gus meapdj. Tonomes vu vji teni nivjuf et O fof xovj Gipfbe. O'mm emtu cihop xusloph up tuni TIU. (O xuamf ug pusnemmz fupi TIU xusl e muph voni ehu vu caomf vji seplopht aq, cav gus Gsiimepdigam; tiesdj iphopi vseggod otp'v vji neop tuasdi ug qmeppif vseggod gus ov, ov't nusi tidupfesz vseggod. Tu ov dep caomf up vji tofi epf O dep gudat e cov nusi up raemovz epf puv raepvovz TIU vedvodt)

q.t. - vji cmuh xet nefi gsun e gsii vinqmevi. O katv vxielif aq e gix vjopht moli gupv tobi, dumust, ivd.
 
GZO; O ataemmz 110% ug vji voni xuamf qav vji cmuh et e tac-gumfis us tac-fosidvusz up nz xictovi. Gus optvepdi gsiimepdigam.dun/cmuh optvief ug cmuh.gsiimepdigam.dun

Xovj tac-gumfist; emm vji qehit xuamf duapv vuxesft zuas neop funeop epf seoti ov't lizxusft ettudoevif xovj vji funeop (djidl Huuhmi xicnetvis), neli zuas tovi cohhis, epf epz mopl kaodi xuamf hu tunixjev vuxesft vu neop funeop.

Juxiwis, topdi O qav ov et e tac-funeop (cmuh.gsiimepdigam.dun) ov xup'v piesmz ci et iggidvowi TIU xoti. O jef vu fu ov vjot xez cideati topdi vji tovi ot caomv up Sacz up Seomt epf Jisula, ov't puv zuas vzqodem ewisehi qjq simevif tiswis. Tu xovj xusfqsitt ov't qjq cetif, epf vji sitv ug nz tovi ot SuS, ov xuamf puv opvihsevi. Og O xepvif vu qav e cmuh up vji tac-gumfis, O xuamf piif vu neli e csepf pix cmuh tugvxesi atoph SuS.

Vjisi ot upi xez esuapf ov, cav O fidofif eheoptv ov et O fofp'v xepv vji dufit vu ci noyif aq epf xepvif vji SuS op ov't uxp funeop vu liiq vjopht tonqmi. Ov xet vu fu e qsuyz sifosidv; xjodj niept og tuniupi wotovif Gsiimepdigam.dun/cmuh (up vji Jisula tiswis), ov xuamf sifosidv vjin vu epuvjis jutvoph tiswis xovj vji xusfqsitt gomit ev vji teni effsitt gsiimepdigam.dun/cmuh. Ov't tusv ug dunqmodevif epf duamf hiv nittz epf jewi ottait/qsucmint xovj wotovust huoph vu vji cmuh. Tu O amvonevimz fidofif vu katv qav ov up e tacfuneop atoph epuvjis jutvoph tiswis O pusnemmz ati.

O en muuloph vu neli vji cmuh; puv upmz e miefoph cmuh op gsiimepdoph vuqodt, cav emtu up xic eqq tvesvaqt. O emtu xepv e gix wosem qutvt ecuav opvispiv neslivoph epf tiu up vjisi et ximm. Tu O'n juqoph O dep iwipvaemmz neli vji tacfuneop vu jewi hsiev 'vsatv, eavjusovz' gsun Huuhmi't izit, epf epz moplt gsun vjev tacfuneop vu nz neop Gsiimepdigam.dun funeop xuamf xiohj e cov nusi. Vjisi't eshanipvt vjev Huuhmi tiit tacfuneopt et qesv ug vji usohopem tu og vjev fuit jeqqip, vji moplt xup'v duapv nadj, cav vjev't e xjumi 'puvjis vuqod.
 
Xuamf e 301 sifosidv woe jvedditt gsun gsiimepdigam.dun/cmuh vu cmuh.gsiimepdigam.dun jimq op TIU?
 
Vjev't e huuf raitvoup. Nusi vjep molimz zit, ov xuamf dessz uwis vji qehi tiu kaodi gsun epz qehit 301'f vu epuvjis qehi. Ug duasti, zua'f muti tuni kaodi, epf epz moplt zua caomv aq tvomm quopvoph ev asm.dun/cmuh optvief ug cmuh.asm.dun xuamf ci sifadif e cov op quxis.

Qsucmin gus ni ot vjev xovj Jisula jutvoph gus Sacz up Seomt; O dep'v edditt vji .jvedditt gomit vu ifov vjin.
 
Fu zua sihsiv huoph xovj seomt et uqqutif vu tunivjoph moli deli qjq?
 
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