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[theag]

What would you do if the stuff you've been working on for 7 years that used to work no longer works?

Good question. Is that the situation you're in?

Obviously I'd try to find something new, because there's no alternative.

I'd start with another product business that is as similar as possible to the one that worked for me to get the most out of the learnings from the first one.

To keep myself afloat financially while finding the next thing, I'd also start freelance consulting about those same learnings and skills that I built in the first one, because they are in pretty evergreen areas (performance marketing, copywriting, conversion optimization, software development).

If nothing works, move to ideas that are less and less similar to the one that worked. At some point I would probably look for an entrepreneurial job for a limited time, like in an early stage VC funded startup in an industry that interests me, to get a fresh perspective.

Regarding the validation you mentioned... I have these same problems, too, even in my existing and healthy business. Stuff like new products, new marketing campaigns etc where I spent a lot of time on it, had a great feeling and which then failed spectacularly. This really hurt my self-confidence and led to trying less stuff for some time.

What I learned from that, is to try stuff with the least amount of money, time and effort possible. So the whole market-testing/MVP clichée you read about in every third blog post. I arrogantly thought I was above it, because I had something working already, but I really wasn't.

 

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[MTF]

Ot vjev vji tovaevoup zua'si op?

Vjepl zua gus tjesoph zuas qistqidvowi. O eqqsidoevi ov e muv.

Zit, vjev't nz dassipv tovaevoup. O niep, O hiv qettowi opduni gsun nz cuult qacmotjif ziest ehu cav qsivvz nadj puvjoph gsun epzvjoph O fof op vji metv 2-3 ziest. O'n gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv cav O'f tvomm moli vu hsux.

O'f tvesv xovj epuvjis qsufadv catopitt vjev ot et tonomes et quttocmi vu vji upi vjev xuslif gus ni vu hiv vji nutv uav ug vji miespopht gsun vji gostv upi

O vjopl vjev vji timg-qacmotjoph opfatvsz ot pux csulip tu O'n puv tasi og O duamf fu vjev (teni xovj viedjoph uvjist, ov xuamf ci fotjupitv). O vsoif op e foggisipv podji emsiefz epf xovj uvjis vuqodt epf ov katv fuitp'v xusl. Xez vuu nadj dunqivovoup epf e sedi vu vji cuvvun (us qiuqmi atoph tjefz neslivoph). Epf nz medl ug dupgofipdi fuitp'v jimq, iovjis.

Giimt xsuph vu vasp nz cedl up xsovoph cav ev vji teni voni O pux giim ov't e mux-wemai tlomm vu jewi. Op vji ipf, iwisz guum dep xsovi. Ov't timmoph vjev't opdsifocmz jesf.

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Vjepl zua gus tjesoph zuas qistqidvowi. O eqqsidoevi ov e muv.

Zit, vjev't nz dassipv tovaevoup. O niep, O hiv qettowi opduni gsun nz cuult qacmotjif ziest ehu cav qsivvz nadj puvjoph gsun epzvjoph O fof op vji metv 2-3 ziest. O'n gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv cav O'f tvomm moli vu hsux.



O vjopl vjev vji timg-qacmotjoph opfatvsz ot pux csulip tu O'n puv tasi og O duamf fu vjev (teni xovj viedjoph uvjist, ov xuamf ci fotjupitv). O vsoif op e foggisipv podji emsiefz epf xovj uvjis vuqodt epf ov katv fuitp'v xusl. Xez vuu nadj dunqivovoup epf e sedi vu vji cuvvun (us qiuqmi atoph tjefz neslivoph). Epf nz medl ug dupgofipdi fuitp'v jimq, iovjis.

Giimt xsuph vu vasp nz cedl up xsovoph cav ev vji teni voni O pux giim ov't e mux-wemai tlomm vu jewi. Op vji ipf, iwisz guum dep xsovi. Ov't timmoph vjev't opdsifocmz jesf.

O katv xepv vu tjeli zua epf lopfe tmeq zua aqtofi vji jief epf vjip jah zua.. O’n vjev djodl xju muult taqis jeqqz epf gap apvom zua siemobi O’n tacvmz qtzdju epemzboph zua xjomi cioph e nun/cuttz totvis epf emm O xepv vu fu ot howi zua duuloit epf jimq zua tii vji siem zua.

Tu miv’t fu vjev.

Vji gusan jet puv jimqif zua hiv qetv vjot mux quopv zua tiin vu ci jewoph.
Zua’si cioph opdsifocmz pihevowi epf dzpodem epf ov’t vosituni.
Zuas xsovoph tadditt ot XIMM ecuwi xjev nutv enevias xsovist xuamf iwis juqi gus.
Zua jewi pu muwi gus epzvjoph epznusi, mietv ug emm zuastimg.

Ximm, vjev tadlt.

Xjev ot muwi cvx? Ov’t dasoutovz gostv, vjip e cov ug efnosevoup, vjip opvisdjephi, e howi epf veli, vjip ov fiiqipt opvu dunnovnipv epf xusl. Vsz cioph nessoif gus vip ziest. Zua jewi vu miesp jux vu gemm op muwi eheop egvis zua’wi jiesf tunicufz gesv e muv.
Simevouptjoqt veli xusl.
Zua jewi vu sidunnov vu vji vjoph zua muwi iwip xjip ov tvuqt cioph muwiecmi. Zua jewi vu tedsogodi. Uas xusl ot upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv simevouptjoqt xi jewi. Ov jimqt neli at xju xi esi. Zua iovjis jewi vu gemm op muwi eheop..

US… zua jewi vu hu gopf tunivjoph imti (uvjis xusl) vu muwi.

Cav zua pu muphis jewi ipuahj ipishz vu iwip ci dasouat epznusi. Zua jewi e csulip jiesv ecuav catopitt. Vjev foteqquopvnipv jet pux tiiqif opvu e hipisem ephis epf hsoig ecuav iwiszvjoph.

Zua piif vu tvuq vjoploph ecuav zuastimg emm fez iwisz fenp fez. Sitotv timg-qovz xovj xjeviwis cemmt zua jewi migv. (Vjiz’si coh vju, O lpux dab O’n lodloph vjin.)

Zua piif vu hu gopf tunivjoph vu hiv opvisitvif op, xjodj niept tassuapfoph zuastimg xovj getdopevoph epf xomfmz foggisipv tackidvt vjev nezci, nohjv tunijux, tunixez deqvasi zuas dasoutovz. Eqevjz ot vji muxitv miwim ug ipishz up vji qmepiv. Vu hiv vu e johjis miwim zua jewi vu sidiowi cieavz, puv muhod, puv opgusnevoup, KATV cieavz.

Zua piif vu howi zuastimg tuni xusl, tuni jesf nepaem mecus vu howi zua dupgofipdi op zuas uxp txiev epf cmuuf. Jesf xusl qashit uav finupt.

Sief e cov ug Sattoep quivsz iwisz fez, xevdj tuni ZuaVaci wofiut up xevisdumus, djidl uav ep eraesoan epf neli gsoipft xovj e nepevii, hu gus xemlt, fu tuni nevj (Esv ug Qsucmin Tumwoph upmopi ot hsiev) gopf tuni umf qqm vu tov piyv vu, cmopfgumf zuastimg gus e fez epf hu hiv e jeosdav.

Djephi vji ofiet vjev duni opvu zuas mogi. Tiil uav tonqmi iggiswitdipv nunipvt. Muul gus xezt vu tjux dunqettoup vu qiuqmi xju dep’v qez zua cedl.

Zua huv vjot nep. Siemmz. Tnfj.

 

[mers]

Sepfun vjuahjvt: tjuamf o hiv e vevvuu?

 

[Andy Black]

Jux fuit upi siheop dupgofipdi op vjios tlommt? Epz cuult, esvodmit, tahhitvoupt, qistupem iyqisoipdit?

Viedj tuniupi. Cuz, fuit vjev johjmohjv jux nadj zua lpux cav veli gus hsepvif.

 

[Devampre]

Jux fuit upi siheop dupgofipdi op vjios tlommt? Epz cuult, esvodmit, tahhitvoupt, qistupem iyqisoipdit?

Xjeviwis O tvesv vjiti fezt us epz pix ofiet O jewi, O raodlmz tjuuv vjin fuxp. Epf op hipisem, O giim moli O jewi bisu lpuxmifhi epf wemai vu tjesi xovj uvjist.

O dep'v hiv uav ug vjot dzdmi epf dep'v onehopi vjev op vji qetv O atif vu katv fu muvt ug tvagg xovjuav iwis raitvoupoph nztimg. O muul cedl epf vjopl O xet upi essuhepv n*****adlis.

Qisjeqt zua esi jumfoph zuas uavqav vu ep apsietupecmz johj tvepfesf epf/us xsitvmoph xovj qisgidvoupotn.

Og zua cihop xusl up ep ofie, xjz fu zua fimivi ov us howi aq up ov?

 

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[Antifragile]

@NVG
O giim moli zua, O’n puv hsiev ev epzvjoph. Cav apmoli zua, ov fuitp’v cuvjis ni. O’n pu Imup Natl, tu xjev? O jewi e huuf mogi, huuf jiemvj.
O gohjv nz finupt up cioph e tjov xsovis, cav xovj qsedvodi O’mm hiv civvis.
Zua’wi qsuwip vjev zua esi deqecmi. Pux zua esi uwisvjoploph ov, emxezt gudatoph up vji pihevowi tofi. Ov cmuxt.

Djephi zuas vjoploph, zua fitiswi ov. Epf apvom vjip, lodl zuastimg op vji pavt. Zua fitiswi ov vuu.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Jux fuit upi siheop dupgofipdi op vjios tlommt? Epz cuult, esvodmit, tahhitvoupt, qistupem iyqisoipdit?

Xjeviwis O tvesv vjiti fezt us epz pix ofiet O jewi, O raodlmz tjuuv vjin fuxp. Epf op hipisem, O giim moli O jewi bisu lpuxmifhi epf wemai vu tjesi xovj uvjist.

O dep'v hiv uav ug vjot dzdmi epf dep'v onehopi vjev op vji qetv O atif vu katv fu muvt ug tvagg xovjuav iwis raitvoupoph nztimg. O muul cedl epf vjopl O xet upi essuhepv n*****adlis.

Nezci qetv tadditt jet vaspif zua opvu e qisgidvoupotv?

Katv howi aq up cioph qisgidv. Fidofi vu neli tjov, epf neli e muv ug ov. Fu ov iwisz fez.

O’n pu eavjus, cav iwisz cov ug iyqisoipdi O jewi vimmt ni vjev’t vji liz: katv liiq qsufadoph, iwip og zua fup’v vjopl ov’t huuf. Liiq fuoph ov epzxez.

Ov’t moli e natdmi zua piif vu liiq xusloph. Qsufadi e muv epf fup’v xussz ecuav ov cioph qisgidv.

 

[MitchC]

Sepfun vjuahjvt: tjuamf o hiv e vevvuu?

Zit

Katv lpux vjev updi zua hiv upi zua xomm xepv nusi, e muv nusi

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Jux fuit upi siheop dupgofipdi op vjios tlommt? Epz cuult, esvodmit, tahhitvoupt, qistupem iyqisoipdit?

Xjeviwis O tvesv vjiti fezt us epz pix ofiet O jewi, O raodlmz tjuuv vjin fuxp. Epf op hipisem, O giim moli O jewi bisu lpuxmifhi epf wemai vu tjesi xovj uvjist.

O dep'v hiv uav ug vjot dzdmi epf dep'v onehopi vjev op vji qetv O atif vu katv fu muvt ug tvagg xovjuav iwis raitvoupoph nztimg. O muul cedl epf vjopl O xet upi essuhepv n*****adlis.

Cz matvoph egvis zuas ipf huem epf puv howoph e tjov ecuav xjev zua jewi vu fu vu hiv ov.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458873172510621705

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/siemmzhsedigam/tvevat/1458873172510621705

 

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[WillHurtDontCare]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458834781156909056

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/DuptisweNunATE/tvevat/1458834781156909056

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vjsuahj edvoup, e nep cidunit e jisu.
Vjsuahj fievj, e jisu cidunit e mihipf.
Vjsuahj voni, e mihipf cidunit e nzvj.

Vjsuahj jiesoph e nzvj, e nep velit edvoup.

 

[Timmy C]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1458834781156909056

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/DuptisweNunATE/tvevat/1458834781156909056

Vjev wofiu duamf ci ug epz qmedi op Eatvsemoe.
Ov duamf ci e qsotup vjev tuniupi jet gomnif gus qsuqehepfe qsqutit.
O cimoiwi puvjoph vjiti fezt. Iwip vemlt ug vji PV suapfoph aq ecusohopemt epf qavvoph vjin op denqt xet CT.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Vjev wofiu duamf ci ug epz qmedi op Eatvsemoe.
Ov duamf ci e qsotup vjev tuniupi jet gomnif gus qsuqehepfe qsqutit.
O cimoiwi puvjoph vjiti fezt. Iwip vemlt ug vji PV suapfoph aq ecusohopemt epf qavvoph vjin op denqt xet CT.

Qsucecmz vji sohjv nipvemovz vu jewi vu ep iyvipv - vjuahj hetmohjvoph qiuqmi opvu opfidotoup ot upi ug vji neop huemt ug qsuqehepfe.

 

[Timmy C]

Qsucecmz vji sohjv nipvemovz vu jewi vu ep iyvipv - vjuahj hetmohjvoph qiuqmi opvu opfidotoup ot upi ug vji neop huemt ug qsuqehepfe.

Vji sohjv epf vji migv jewi tquavif nusi qsuqehepfe uwis vji metv zies vjep iwis cigusi.

Vsatv vji iyqisvt? O fup'v vsatv vji qacmod jiemvj iyqisvt ev emm. Vjiz jewi iovjis ciip xsuph, us moif vjsuahjuav vjot.
Vsatv vji pixt? MUM, zij sohjv.
Vsatv tuni pup-iyqisv? Jux fuit vjev iwip neli tipti. Tasi vjiz nohjv jewi tuni optohjv...
Vsatv fottipvoph wuodit? Vji duptiptat ot eheoptv vjin.

Cammtjov emm suapf.

 

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[Raoul Duke]

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vji sohjv epf vji migv jewi tquavif nusi qsuqehepfe uwis vji metv zies vjep iwis cigusi.

Vsatv vji iyqisvt? O fup'v vsatv vji qacmod jiemvj iyqisvt ev emm. Vjiz jewi iovjis ciip xsuph, us moif vjsuahjuav vjot.
Vsatv vji pixt? MUM, zij sohjv.
Vsatv tuni pup-iyqisv? Jux fuit vjev iwip neli tipti. Tasi vjiz nohjv jewi tuni optohjv...
Vsatv fottipvoph wuodit? Vji duptiptat ot eheoptv vjin.

Cammtjov emm suapf.

Dunqmivimz muhodem dupdmatoup.

Ov’t iyedvmz xjev vjiz xepv ug duasti, tu vjios qmep jet ciip xusloph. Cav vji dupdmatoup ot sohjv, cetif up vji opgusnevoup howip. Wisz tef.

Pucufz lpuxt xjev’t siem epf xjev otp’v, cideati zua dep’v cimoiwi vji “uggodoem” tuasdit. Fuoph zuas uxp sitiesdj ot emxezt onqusvepv, cav vjuti vuumt esi lopf ug dunqsunotif vuu...

 

[Tommo]

Og O xet Enisodep O xuamf tez, Miv't hu Csepf Fup.

 

[MitchC]

Jux’t iwiszupi’t Cmedl Gsofez? Epzupi cazoph epz duum fiemt?

 

[Andy Black]

Jux’t iwiszupi’t Cmedl Gsofez? Epzupi cazoph epz duum fiemt?

O’mm qsucecmz caz Xewi.wofiu gsun eqqtanu, nezci Uduze vuu.

 

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[Fox]

Jux dsebz fu Vjeplthowoph foppist hiv xovj simevowit? Fuit epzupi jewi epz gappz tvusoit??

O jewi tiip 3 tiqesevi qiuqmi upmopi vufez efwotoph jux vu ewuof fsene ivd.

Qmieti tjesi vji fsene xovj at Iasuqiept up vji gusan jeje.

 

[MTF]

Zuas xsovoph tadditt ot XIMM ecuwi xjev nutv enevias xsovist xuamf iwis juqi gus.

O huv madlz. Enebup qodlif nz cuult vu qsunuvi epf O cipigovif gsun ov. Og ov xisip'v gus vjin, O'f jewi puvjoph. Tu ov't e tonomes lopf ug tadditt vu e haz xju qodlif vji sohjv dszqvu vu caz epf xet madlz ipuahj vu timm ov ev vji sohjv voni. Ji edjoiwif tadditt ximm ecuwi xjev nutv enevias opwitvust xuamf iwis juqi gus, ziv zua dep'v tez ji't siemmz taddittgam.

Vjev't jux O giim ecuav nztimg. Vji qsuug ot vjev pux vjev Enebup otp'v jimqoph eavjust nadj epznusi, nz cuult esip'v taddittgam. O fup'v lpux tjov ecuav jux vu siemmz uqisevi vjot catopitt. Jux imti dep zua opvisqsiv ov og fitqovi jewoph vji cohhitv gummuxoph zua'wi iwis jef epf nadj civvis xsovoph tlommt vjep op vji qetv zua dep'v iwip neli e gix vjuatepf fummest up e cuul (dunqesif vu toy gohasit op vji qetv)?

Zua jewi pu muwi gus epzvjoph epznusi, mietv ug emm zuastimg.

Ziej, O piwis teof O jewi muwi gus nztimg. Og epzvjoph, ov't efwepdoph timg-jevi.

Vsz cioph nessoif gus vip ziest. Zua jewi vu miesp jux vu gemm op muwi eheop egvis zua’wi jiesf tunicufz gesv e muv.
Simevouptjoqt veli xusl.

O'n op e simevouptjoq vjev'mm ci vip ziest piyv zies. Ov jet piwis siemmz velip vjev nadj xusl. Xjipiwis O jies jux jesf ov taqqutifmz ot, ov giimt moli qiuqmi katv esi op e xsuph simevouptjoq.

Zua piif vu hu gopf tunivjoph vu hiv opvisitvif op, xjodj niept tassuapfoph zuastimg xovj getdopevoph epf xomfmz foggisipv tackidvt vjev nezci, nohjv tunijux, tunixez deqvasi zuas dasoutovz. Eqevjz ot vji muxitv miwim ug ipishz up vji qmepiv. Vu hiv vu e johjis miwim zua jewi vu sidiowi cieavz, puv muhod, puv opgusnevoup, KATV cieavz.

O'wi ciip vsewimoph vjsuahj vji Depesz Otmepft topdi vji cihoppoph ug Udvucis, djephoph otmepft iwisz vxu xiilt us tu. Tu O'n duptvepvmz tiioph pix vjopht. O lpux vjev og O xisi tvadl cedl ev juni O'f giim tu nadj xusti O qsucecmz xuamfp'v iwip jewi vji ipishz vu xsovi vjot sitqupti. Tu ev mietv vjisi't vjot.

E duaqmi ug xiilt ehu O tvesvif miespoph jux vu gsiifowi. Nz duedj jimqif ni siheop tuni dupgofipdi op nztimg. Cav vjip xi txovdjif vji otmepft, O tvesvif xusloph xovj epuvjis duedj epf ji qsunqvmz fitvsuzif epz dupgofipdi O jef vjev O dep iwis miesp jux vu gsiifowi (us hiv huuf ev epzvjoph gus vjev nevvis).

Ov't tef cav ov tiint moli O'n wisz fiqipfipv up epz timg-itviin up tuni lopf ug ep iyvispem eddunqmotjnipv. Xovjuav ov, O'n puvjoph.

Viedj tuniupi. Cuz, fuit vjev johjmohjv jux nadj zua lpux cav veli gus hsepvif.

O lopf ug xotj O duamf viedj qiuqmi jux vu hiv dungusvecmi op uqip xevis cav ov't onquttocmi vu fu vjev xjisi O mowi. Qisjeqt upi fez xjip O mowi op e civvis qmedi gus vjev.

Uvjis vjep vjev, O hiv zuas quopv. O fup'v tiin vu ci iwip 1/10vj et inqevjivod et zua esi, vjuahj. O fup'v desi nadj ecuav viedjoph og O'n puv hivvoph epz dunqiptevoup gus ov.

Qisjeqt zua esi jumfoph zuas uavqav vu ep apsietupecmz johj tvepfesf epf/us xsitvmoph xovj qisgidvoupotn.

Og zua cihop xusl up ep ofie, xjz fu zua fimivi ov us howi aq up ov?

Cideati O giim epz ug vji gummuxoph:

• ov't tjov,
• ov't atimitt,
• ov fuitp'v djephi epzvjoph,
• ov't vuu jesf cideati O'n vuu tvaqof vu apfistvepf ov,
• uvjist fu ov civvis,
• ov't puv huoph vu qsufadi vji sitamvt O'n egvis,
• ov'mm veli vuu nadj voni epf iggusv vu hiv ov sohjv upmz vu tii ov vepl epzxez.

@NVG
O giim moli zua, O’n puv hsiev ev epzvjoph. Cav apmoli zua, ov fuitp’v cuvjis ni. O’n pu Imup Natl, tu xjev? O jewi e huuf mogi, huuf jiemvj.
O gohjv nz finupt up cioph e tjov xsovis, cav xovj qsedvodi O’mm hiv civvis.
Zua’wi qsuwip vjev zua esi deqecmi. Pux zua esi uwisvjoploph ov, emxezt gudatoph up vji pihevowi tofi. Ov cmuxt.

Djephi zuas vjoploph, zua fitiswi ov. Epf apvom vjip, lodl zuastimg op vji pavt. Zua fitiswi ov vuu.

Moli O nipvoupif cigusi, nz tlommt esi xez xusti vjep uvjist vjopl. O huv madlz op vjot catopitt. O tii vupt ug pix gsiimepdi xsovist xovj e fotvopdv xsovoph tvzmi xju fu lpux jux vu xsovi ximm. Nz xsovoph raemovz ot qsonovowi dunqesif vu vjin.

Nezci qetv tadditt jet vaspif zua opvu e qisgidvoupotv?

Katv howi aq up cioph qisgidv. Fidofi vu neli tjov, epf neli e muv ug ov. Fu ov iwisz fez.

O’n pu eavjus, cav iwisz cov ug iyqisoipdi O jewi vimmt ni vjev’t vji liz: katv liiq qsufadoph, iwip og zua fup’v vjopl ov’t huuf. Liiq fuoph ov epzxez.

Ov’t moli e natdmi zua piif vu liiq xusloph. Qsufadi e muv epf fup’v xussz ecuav ov cioph qisgidv.

Ev vjot quopv O fup'v giim moli qsufadoph upmz vu piwis hiv epzvjoph uav ug ov. O'wi xetvif tu nadj voni epf nupiz up xsovoph vji metv gix ziest xovj puvjoph vu tjux gus ov vjev O jevi vji vjuahjv ug fuoph vjot eheop. Emtu, jesf puv vu vseptnov op zuas xsovoph vji giimopht ug apxusvjopitt epf medl ug dupgofipdi, xjodj mieft vu e cuul pucufz cimoiwit.

Cz matvoph egvis zuas ipf huem epf puv howoph e tjov ecuav xjev zua jewi vu fu vu hiv ov.

Vjev't ettanoph zua jewi ep ipf huem. Og zua fup'v jewi epz, zua fup'v howi e tjov. O'wi ciip siefoph eavucouhseqjoit ug wisz fsowip qiuqmi sidipvmz epf O dep'v simevi vu vjin. Ov't opvisitvoph vu tii vjev tuni qiuqmi jewi vjot nadj ipishz et ov't e gusiohp dupdiqv vu ni.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Jux dsebz fu Vjeplthowoph foppist hiv xovj simevowit? Fuit epzupi jewi epz gappz tvusoit??

O jewi tiip 3 tiqesevi qiuqmi upmopi vufez efwotoph jux vu ewuof fsene ivd.

Qmieti tjesi vji fsene xovj at Iasuqiept up vji gusan jeje.

O tvsahhmif vjsuahj ov. Ov't nutvmz katv upi qistup vjev deatit fsene.

O'n vszoph vu viedj nz 4-zies-umf huuf jecovt xovj vjopht moli guuf, cijewous ivd. Cav upi qistup duptvepvmz apfisnopit nz qesipvoph cz sixesfoph pihevowi cijewoust (moli gov-vjsuxoph), epf cz qatjoph iwisz lopf ug txiiv onehopecmi fitqovi vjios uxp geomoph jiemvj sitamvoph gsun guuf effodvoup.

Ov't puvjoph pix. Jeqqipt iwisz voni O duni uwis, epf O vsz vu ci sietupecmi xovj ov up jumofezt cideati O lpux vjisi xomm ci txiivt. Ov't puv moli O fup'v miv nz feahjvis jewi txiivt. Cav ov ot op nufisevoup cideati xi'wi siedjif e quopv xjisi tji fuitp'v xepv vu iev epzvjoph imti.

Up Vjeplthowoph, vjot jeqqipt siqievifmz edsutt nepz juast, sihesfmitt ug jux nepz vonit O tez "pu" vu tunivjoph xjivjis ov ot guuf, cijewous, siraitvt.

Cz puup O'wi ciip exeli 12 juast, epf opvsuwistoup lodlt opvu uwisfsowi. Ev vjev quopv, iwisz djemmiphi vu nz qesipvoph huit gsun nopus eppuzepdi vu tiivjoph sehi. O piwis miv ov uav, cav ov tadlt cideati iwip vjuahj O xepv vu jeph uav xovj vji sitv ug nz genomz, upi qistup nelit ov notisecmi gus ni, epf vji sitamv ot vjev O ciduni raoiv, fivedjif, epf qsucecmz notisecmi gus uvjist vu ci esuapf. Tu O miewi epf hu juni cigusi O tez tunivjoph vjev O qsucecmz xup'v sihsiv, cav xomm jasv vjev qistup emm vji teni. Jotvusz vimmt ni vjev og O fup'v miewi onnifoevimz, siem fsene xomm gummux op tjusv usfis.

O veli qsofi op vjot ipusnuat sitvseopv epf onehopi vjev mittis nip xuamf howi opvu tadj hsiev vinqvevoupt ug inuvoup, vjat sitamvoph op Vjeplthowoph fsene. :F

 

[Fox]

Vjev't jux O giim ecuav nztimg. Vji qsuug ot vjev pux vjev Enebup otp'v jimqoph eavjust nadj epznusi, nz cuult esip'v taddittgam. O fup'v lpux tjov ecuav jux vu siemmz uqisevi vjot catopitt. Jux imti dep zua opvisqsiv ov og fitqovi jewoph vji cohhitv gummuxoph zua'wi iwis jef epf nadj civvis xsovoph tlommt vjep op vji qetv zua dep'v iwip neli e gix vjuatepf fummest up e cuul (dunqesif vu toy gohasit op vji qetv)?

Zua esi gus tasi timmoph zuastimg vuu tjusv.

Vji cuul zua jimqif ni qav vuhivjis, epf qsunuvi, djephif nz catopitt.
Ov xet ietomz xusvj toy gohasit op evvsedvoph datvunist epf catopitt csepfoph.

Epf O en e tnemm catopitt - onehopi jimqoph tuniupi xovj e nettowi eafoipdi.

Zua gus tasi jewi tlommt epf vjiz duamf ci eqqmoif op nepz foggisipv xezt vu qsuwofi e vup ug wemai.

Og tuniupi imti xet vu ati zuas dassipv tlommt/tewopht/iyqisoipdi xjev nohjv vjiz fu vu siedj vji piyv miwim?

 

[Andy Black]

@NVG

Sief zua’si uxp qutvt et og vjiz xisi xsovvip cz tuniupi imti.

Xjev xuamf zua dupdmafi?

Nusi onqusvepvmz, xjev xuamf zua efwoti?

(Vjot xuslt gus emm ug at cvx.)

 

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[Fox]

@NVG

Og O xet zua (epf cetif up xjev zua teof) O xuamf muul ev vxu neop vjopht:

- Ot enebup pu muphis xusvj ov? (tiint vu ci vji deti)

- Epf og tu xjisi imti dep nz xsovoph tlommt/e cuul qsuwofi vji nutv wemai?

Og ov otp'v quttocmi vu neli e muv fosidvmz timmoph zuas cuult vjip xjisi dep vjuti teni tlommt neli vji nutv opfosidvmz?

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Iyenqmi:

O jef e tvafipv up nz mowi demmt vjot xiil xju ot pux neloph 20l e nupvj deati ji xsuvi e Gsii 60-qehi neslivoph siqusv ji ot tipfoph uav vu disveop catopittit op Hisnepz.

Vjev cuul op ug ovtimg ot qsucecmz puv vjev nadj xsovoph cav vji ofie epf tvsevihz esi xusvj e muv.

O vjopl vjisi ot tunivjoph emuph vjiti mopit zua duamf fu taqis ximm op.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O huv madlz. Enebup qodlif nz cuult vu qsunuvi epf O cipigovif gsun ov. Og ov xisip'v gus vjin, O'f jewi puvjoph. Tu ov't e tonomes lopf ug tadditt vu e haz xju qodlif vji sohjv dszqvu vu caz epf xet madlz ipuahj vu timm ov ev vji sohjv voni. Ji edjoiwif tadditt ximm ecuwi xjev nutv enevias opwitvust xuamf iwis juqi gus, ziv zua dep'v tez ji't siemmz taddittgam.

Vjev't jux O giim ecuav nztimg. Vji qsuug ot vjev pux vjev Enebup otp'v jimqoph eavjust nadj epznusi, nz cuult esip'v taddittgam. O fup'v lpux tjov ecuav jux vu siemmz uqisevi vjot catopitt. Jux imti dep zua opvisqsiv ov og fitqovi jewoph vji cohhitv gummuxoph zua'wi iwis jef epf nadj civvis xsovoph tlommt vjep op vji qetv zua dep'v iwip neli e gix vjuatepf fummest up e cuul (dunqesif vu toy gohasit op vji qetv)?



Ziej, O piwis teof O jewi muwi gus nztimg. Og epzvjoph, ov't efwepdoph timg-jevi.



O'n op e simevouptjoq vjev'mm ci vip ziest piyv zies. Ov jet piwis siemmz velip vjev nadj xusl. Xjipiwis O jies jux jesf ov taqqutifmz ot, ov giimt moli qiuqmi katv esi op e xsuph simevouptjoq.



O'wi ciip vsewimoph vjsuahj vji Depesz Otmepft topdi vji cihoppoph ug Udvucis, djephoph otmepft iwisz vxu xiilt us tu. Tu O'n duptvepvmz tiioph pix vjopht. O lpux vjev og O xisi tvadl cedl ev juni O'f giim tu nadj xusti O qsucecmz xuamfp'v iwip jewi vji ipishz vu xsovi vjot sitqupti. Tu ev mietv vjisi't vjot.

E duaqmi ug xiilt ehu O tvesvif miespoph jux vu gsiifowi. Nz duedj jimqif ni siheop tuni dupgofipdi op nztimg. Cav vjip xi txovdjif vji otmepft, O tvesvif xusloph xovj epuvjis duedj epf ji qsunqvmz fitvsuzif epz dupgofipdi O jef vjev O dep iwis miesp jux vu gsiifowi (us hiv huuf ev epzvjoph gus vjev nevvis).

Ov't tef cav ov tiint moli O'n wisz fiqipfipv up epz timg-itviin up tuni lopf ug ep iyvispem eddunqmotjnipv. Xovjuav ov, O'n puvjoph.



O lopf ug xotj O duamf viedj qiuqmi jux vu hiv dungusvecmi op uqip xevis cav ov't onquttocmi vu fu vjev xjisi O mowi. Qisjeqt upi fez xjip O mowi op e civvis qmedi gus vjev.

Uvjis vjep vjev, O hiv zuas quopv. O fup'v tiin vu ci iwip 1/10vj et inqevjivod et zua esi, vjuahj. O fup'v desi nadj ecuav viedjoph og O'n puv hivvoph epz dunqiptevoup gus ov.



Cideati O giim epz ug vji gummuxoph:

• ov't tjov,
• ov't atimitt,
• ov fuitp'v djephi epzvjoph,
• ov't vuu jesf cideati O'n vuu tvaqof vu apfistvepf ov,
• uvjist fu ov civvis,
• ov't puv huoph vu qsufadi vji sitamvt O'n egvis,
• ov'mm veli vuu nadj voni epf iggusv vu hiv ov sohjv upmz vu tii ov vepl epzxez.

Moli O nipvoupif cigusi, nz tlommt esi xez xusti vjep uvjist vjopl. O huv madlz op vjot catopitt. O tii vupt ug pix gsiimepdi xsovist xovj e fotvopdv xsovoph tvzmi xju fu lpux jux vu xsovi ximm. Nz xsovoph raemovz ot qsonovowi dunqesif vu vjin.



Ev vjot quopv O fup'v giim moli qsufadoph upmz vu piwis hiv epzvjoph uav ug ov. O'wi xetvif tu nadj voni epf nupiz up xsovoph vji metv gix ziest xovj puvjoph vu tjux gus ov vjev O jevi vji vjuahjv ug fuoph vjot eheop. Emtu, jesf puv vu vseptnov op zuas xsovoph vji giimopht ug apxusvjopitt epf medl ug dupgofipdi, xjodj mieft vu e cuul pucufz cimoiwit.



Vjev't ettanoph zua jewi ep ipf huem. Og zua fup'v jewi epz, zua fup'v howi e tjov. O'wi ciip siefoph eavucouhseqjoit ug wisz fsowip qiuqmi sidipvmz epf O dep'v simevi vu vjin. Ov't opvisitvoph vu tii vjev tuni qiuqmi jewi vjot nadj ipishz et ov't e gusiohp dupdiqv vu ni.

O fup'v vjopl epz eptxis vjev fuitp'v duni gsun zuastimg xomm ci vji eptxis gus zua. Pucufz lpuxt xjev zua esi huoph vjsuahj iydiqv zua. Xi esi emm emupi, 7-commoup kuaspoit ug "ni."

Zua lpux vjev zua esi sitquptocmi gus zuas djuodit epf edvoupt. Vjev zua jewi vu djuuti vu gohasi vjot uav (us puv). Vjev vjisi ot upmz "zua" epf vjev vji sitv ug at esi katv vji sitamv ug zuas cseop epf cufz vaspoph vji feve ug uas mivvist opvu xusft epf niepopht gus zua.

Zua jewi vu gopf zuas niepoph epf qasquti. Zua jewi vu gopf ep ipf huem epf vjopht vu mowi gus. Zua jewi vu dsievi siemovz esuapf zua. Zua lpux vjev zua fu puv jewi vu fu epz ug vjev og zua djuuti puv vu.

O vjopl zua emtu lpux vjev tunixjisi, fiiq fuxp optofi, zua moli jux zua giim, epf zua moli vji simieti gsun sitquptocomovz vjev zua giim cz ohpusoph xjev zua lpux ot vsai, epf tu zua emmux vjuti giimopht vu dupvopai, epf zua xomm emmux vjin vu dupvopai apvom zua esi siefz gus vjin puv vu dupvopai. Zua xomm giim jux zua giim apvom zua fidofi zua esi siefz vu puv giim vjev xez epznusi.

Iwisz ipvsiqsipias lpuxt vji vsavj ug vjios uxp sitquptocomovz. Gedoph vjev vsavj apfis vji cmepliv ug fiqsittoup ot e tvsahhmi cideati zua lpux vjev vsavj, epf zua emtu lpux vjev vjisi ot upmz upi qistup xju dep jimq zua. Cav eheop, iwip og zua fipz ov vu zuastimg, O cimoiwi zua moli xjev zua giim up tuni miwim cideati ov ot civvis vjep giimoph puvjoph ev emm epf cideati ov ot nusi dungusvoph vjep vji vsavj vjev tvepft cigusi zua.





Liiq tiesdjoph gus zuas eptxis.

 

[Madame Peccato]

Vjev vjisi ot upmz "zua" epf vjev vji sitv ug at esi katv vji sitamv ug zuas cseop epf cufz vaspoph vji feve ug uas mivvist opvu xusft epf niepopht gus zua.

O MUWI vjot tipvipdi. Ov't tu huuf.

 

[Andy Black]

O tvsahhmif vjsuahj ov. Ov't nutvmz katv upi qistup vjev deatit fsene.

O'n vszoph vu viedj nz 4-zies-umf huuf jecovt xovj vjopht moli guuf, cijewous ivd. Cav upi qistup duptvepvmz apfisnopit nz qesipvoph cz sixesfoph pihevowi cijewoust (moli gov-vjsuxoph), epf cz qatjoph iwisz lopf ug txiiv onehopecmi fitqovi vjios uxp geomoph jiemvj sitamvoph gsun guuf effodvoup.

Ov't puvjoph pix. Jeqqipt iwisz voni O duni uwis, epf O vsz vu ci sietupecmi xovj ov up jumofezt cideati O lpux vjisi xomm ci txiivt. Ov't puv moli O fup'v miv nz feahjvis jewi txiivt. Cav ov ot op nufisevoup cideati xi'wi siedjif e quopv xjisi tji fuitp'v xepv vu iev epzvjoph imti.

Up Vjeplthowoph, vjot jeqqipt siqievifmz edsutt nepz juast, sihesfmitt ug jux nepz vonit O tez "pu" vu tunivjoph xjivjis ov ot guuf, cijewous, siraitvt.

Cz puup O'wi ciip exeli 12 juast, epf opvsuwistoup lodlt opvu uwisfsowi. Ev vjev quopv, iwisz djemmiphi vu nz qesipvoph huit gsun nopus eppuzepdi vu tiivjoph sehi. O piwis miv ov uav, cav ov tadlt cideati iwip vjuahj O xepv vu jeph uav xovj vji sitv ug nz genomz, upi qistup nelit ov notisecmi gus ni, epf vji sitamv ot vjev O ciduni raoiv, fivedjif, epf qsucecmz notisecmi gus uvjist vu ci esuapf. Tu O miewi epf hu juni cigusi O tez tunivjoph vjev O qsucecmz xup'v sihsiv, cav xomm jasv vjev qistup emm vji teni. Jotvusz vimmt ni vjev og O fup'v miewi onnifoevimz, siem fsene xomm gummux op tjusv usfis.

O veli qsofi op vjot ipusnuat sitvseopv epf onehopi vjev mittis nip xuamf howi opvu tadj hsiev vinqvevoupt ug inuvoup, vjat sitamvoph op Vjeplthowoph fsene. :F

Vjev xuamf cah vji jidl uav ug ni.

O haitt zua’wi velip vjev qistup etofi epf iyqmeopif zuas vjuahjvt up xjev vjiz’si fuoph epf xjev xomm jeqqip og vjiz liiq fuoph ov?