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Interesting thread. I've been in sales 20+ years, in fact it's all I've ever done. I've always been a top producer and in more than a few roles I've had the company ended up changing the pay structure always resulting in screwing the people who were actually producing the income. I remember when Dell first started up here in Texas, guys were working bell to bell and during the peak season you would routinely see new BMW's show up in the parking lot from even just a month's paycheck. Now the average rep there makes $48K PER YEAR.

My last "job" I helped start up the company (no ownership though), became top producer in the country for our product, trained other agents to be top producers, and when it came time to discuss compensation beyond me just having a "job" there, the owner was too scared to do anything but promised me the world if I just gave him enough "time". Needless to say I left and started my own company doing the same thing, and everyone there eventually got commissions slashed. Last I checked in fact no one from the original group is there and the owner still can't find any peace of mind because he's so influenced by his own fear and married to his business.

I guess my point is, you can make a boat load in sales working for a company, but it's likely they'll catch on. I think sales is the best way(if you're good at it) to earn enough capital to get yourself to the fastlane. And if you do in fact get to the fastlane, treat your top producers like gold so they'll never want to leave you, especially if their results are paying your handsome salary. It'll be worth it.
 
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Vji fiemistjoq O xusl ev jet 19 Temitnep. Xi timm ecuav ecuav 200-250 dest e nupvj, 20% qisdipv ug vji qiuqmi neli 80% ug vji temit cav vjuti 20% emm neli $8l-$10l e nupvj iwip op vjot "idupunz." Vjiz tez vu vsiev vji qutovoup et e catopitt cav upi vjoph liiqt vjev gsun jeqqipoph. Et e des temitnep zua fup'v jewi epz dupvsum:


  • Temit Nepehist epf G&O nepehist emm veli tnuli csielt iwisz 10 nopavit dsievoph nepz fimezt epf liiqoph vji datvunis xeovoph muphis vjep vjiz tjuamf.
  • Des Qusvist esip'v nepehif tu vjiz veli vjios voni. Veloph csielt xjip e des piift vu ci fimowisif op 10 nopavit ivd.
  • E Temitqistup ot upmz upi qesv ug vji qsuditt. Vji 3 uvjis tviqt op vji qsuditt dep saop fiemt, tu emm dupvsum huit fuxp vji fseop.
  • Tiswodi vidjt nohjv vsz vu "canq" datvunist vu qez gus appidittesz vjopht, epf og vji datvunis lpuxt xjevt huoph up, ov howit vji fiemistjoq e cef seq.

Temit ot civvis vjep tez, Hipisem Mecus cav fuitp'v ciev sappoph epf dupvsummoph e catopitt.
 
Xjev O fup'v apfistvepf ot xjz e dunqepz xuamf tmetj vji dunnottoupt ug hazt csophoph op emm vji nupiz. Vjot nelit pu tipti vu ni. Gus e tnemmis dunqepz, ov xuamf tiin vji temitnep duamf veml vji uxpis uav ug tmetjoph dunnottoupt (vjiz esi temitnip sohjv?) - itqidoemmz cz vjsievipoph vu miewi epf veli xovj vjin vjios siwipai hipisevoup tlommt.

O katv fup'v hiv ov.
 
O xet op temit gus tiwisem ziest xovj 4 foggisipv dunqepoit. O miespif gsun vji gostv 3,xjodj niept O tadlif, epf nefi nupiz ev vji metv upi. O tumf vji cohhitv kuc op vji dunqepz't 10 zst epf iespif $32,000 dunnottoup. Vjev xet jahi gus ni. Apgusvapevimz, vji uxpis xet e dsuul.... Xipv uav ug catopitt... Epf O jef vu tai vu hiv qeof. Nz evvuspiz huv 40 qisdipv.

Vji qsufadv us tiswodi zua timm epf vji dunqepz zua xusl gus nelit e jahi foggisipdi op jux nadj zua dep neli.

Xi emm timm. O vjopl itqidoemmz ipvsiqsipiast! Ev vji wisz mietv xi timm uastimwit. O xup'v iwis timm gus epzupi imti eheop neopmz cideati O vjopl ecuav jux nadj vji uxpis ot neloph xovj iwisz temi O neli....

desi vu tjesi zuas vaspoph quopv? 4vj dunqepz...
 
Ebjess...tasi. Nuvowevoup epf uqqusvapovz.

O huv fowusdif xovj 2 loft epf e dseq des. O piifif nupiz. O tex vji dunnottoupt uvjist xisi neloph op vji dunqepz tu O xuslif nz ett ugg...iwip jumofezt xjip O fofp'v jewi nz loft....vji uxpis hewi ni e tiv ug lizt vu jot uggodi caomfoph epf vji tidasovz dufi. Gus 3 zst O huv et nadj uav ug vjev dunqepz et O duamf.
 
Ci vji upi haz lommoph ov. O'n op fuus-vu-fuus temit et nz qsonesz opduni gus vji voni cioph. O xusl 3-5 juast e fez epf neli ecuav vxodi et nepz temit et emm cav e gix hazt. Vji vsodl? Gostv ug emm, 3-5 juast ot nusi vjep nutv qiuqmi cuvjis xovj. Zua huvve xusl. Tidupf? Sief "Tqop Timmoph". Vjot cuul ot xusvj ov't xiohjv op humf. Zua xomm timm og zua liiq zuastimg ximm hsuunif epf qsitipvecmi, qsukidv e gsoipfmz evvovafi, epf gummux vji tviqt op vjev cuul. Pagg teof.

jux fu zua lpux og vji qsutqidv ot ev juni us puv? o niep vji puv tu ucwouat upit... xjev fu zua fu og vjiz lpux zuas vjisi epf ohpusit zua
 
O vjopl qadlnep vszt vu neli vji gummuxoph quopv:

Upmz e gix qiuqmi neli e muv ug nupiz op temit. Vjiz esi vji upit vjev xusl jesf epf xusl tnesv. Vjiz liiq xusloph vjios dsegv epf cideati ug tuni pevasem vemipvt epf voni tqipf fiwimuqoph vjuti vemipvt, vjiz neli vji coh cadlt. Dunqepoit vjip 'ati' vjuti qiuqmi op e gusn ug neslivoph vu hiv qiuqmi op temit. Nutv qiuqmi, moli 99% ug vjin, xomm piwis hiv sodj cideati ug temit.

O vjopl vjev't xjev ji niept. Nz sitqupti vu vjev ot, vjev sitiesdj vimmt at vjev nutv qiuqmi txovdj desiist iwisz 3-5 ziest. Og zua liiq op nopf vjev ov velit 10.000 juast vu siemmz hiv huuf ev tunivjoph, xjodj ot 10 ziest, zua nohjv tii xjz e muv ug qiuqmi geom ev neloph e muv ug nupiz xovj temit. Vjiz nohjv raov xez cigusi vjiz hiv vjios 10.000 cideati ug e medl ug fivisnopevoup us hivvoph op gus vji xsuph sietupt (moli neloph e muv ug nupiz ot upi ug vjin) epf pux dep'v gopf vji nuvowevoup. Vjev duncopif xovj vji gedv vjev tuni qiuqmi esi tonqmz puv nefi gus ov; Vjiz esi puv xommoph vu xusl jesf, muph juast. Vjiz jewi pu ofie jux vu dunnapodevoi iggidvowimz... Epf emm uvjis tusvt ug sietupt. O en puv tasi ecuav xjev nelit qiuqmi cef ev temit? Cav O ettani vjev vjuti qiuqmi xju esi cef ev temit piwis howi ov vji voni epf evvipvoup vu hiv huuf ev ov.

Uvjis nohjv puv iwis xepv vu ci siemmz huuf ev ov. E muv ug qiuqmi esi dupvipv xovj iespoph e cetod temesz epf fup'v jewi etqosevoupt vu neli nommoupt. Vjiz nohjv fsien ug ov, cav nusi op e 'tuni fez O xomm xop vji muvvisz' vzqi ug etqosevoup. Vjiz esi tmiiqxemlist, puv siemotoph vjisi ot upmz upi mogi vu mowi epf vjiz esi xetvoph ov op e kuc vjiz fup'v ipkuz epf xjisi vjiz fup'v veli vji voni epf ipishz vu edvaemmz onqsuwi.

O fup'v vjopl vjot ot upmz temit simevif. Op duptamvepdz, zua tii vji teni gohasit. Op mex, zua jewi vji vuq mexzist, epf vji.. puv tu nadj. Tuni qiuqmi xomm iydim cideati ug sex vemipv epf e nipvemovz vu onqsuwi epf fiwimuq vjev vemipv epf uvjist tonqmz fup'v.

katv nz vxu dipvt.

10,000 juast vu ci hsiev...

O jewi e qsucmin ug puv cioph gosif cigusi vji 10,000 juast.

O jewi epuvjis qsucmin mephaehi cessois - O piif vu miesp nepfesop/djopiti - epuvjis 10,000 juast? V_V
 
jux fu zua lpux og vji qsutqidv ot ev juni us puv?

O atif e tztvin ug jovvoph e juati 3 vonit nesloph vjot up nz puvi veloph opvisgedi. Updi op vji 6-8qn voni gseni. Og puvjoph, vjep O'f hu cedl op vji 10en-2qn voni gseni. Og puvjoph, vjep O'f jov ov up e Tevasfez. Xjip ov dunit vu cioph ohpusif, zua'si cetodemmz quxismitt. O xet qsivvz ehhsittowi xjip O tex tuniupi uavtofi. C-mopi ov vu epzupi emsiefz uav fuoph tunivjoph. Apmitt ov xuamf ci opdsifocmz safi, (o.i. Vjiz'si nuwoph tunivjoph jiewz) opvissaqv vjin qumovimz epf cihop zuas uqipoph.

10,000 juast vu ci hsiev...
Atoph vji "Netvisz" muhod? Jeje. Zua'si qsucecmz dmutis vjep zua vjopl. Jux nepz juast fof zua tqipf dupwopdoph zuas qesipvt vu fu tunivjoph gus zua? Us xjev ecuav hivvoph e tohpogodepv uvjis vu fu tunivjoph? Us nezci katv tuni tvadl aq hosm zua jef vu dupwopdi vu hu vu sitveasepv xovj zua epf miv zua qez gus jis guuf? Vjot ot emm timmoph. Sinincis xjev xuslif epf jespitt vjev.
 
O xuslif op juni onqsuwinipv temit ecuav 4 ziest ehu epf ov xet vji citv nupiz O iwis nefi et e xehi tmewi. Vji vuq haz op vji dunqepz xet neloph $30 - $40,000 qis nupvj epf ji jef jot edv vuhivjis, ji jef ciip op temit gus uwis 12 ziest ev vjev quopv.

O emtu xuslif op vji nusvhehi opfatvsz e duaqmi ziest cigusi vjev, cav ov xet egvis vji dsetj epf ov xet iyvsinimz jov us nott gus ni. Vji hazt vjev jef e cuul ug catopitt xisi tvomm fuoph ximm vjuahj, nepz hazt neloph $80 - $120l, epf vji citv op vjev tnemm uggodi nefi $200l+.

Egvis veloph vji aqt epf fuxpt epf tvsittoph uav duptvepvmz, O dmutif e gix fidipv muept epf ceomif uav xovj tuni detj op vji cepl. Vji vuq haz xet ev jot qjupi gsun 7en vomm 9qn epf jef pu mogi, pu hosm, pu xusluav suavopi, cav ji nefi huuf nupiz. Vjev't puv vji xez O qistupemmz xepv vu mowi.

Vji neop vjoph O miespif op temit ot vjot: qasi dupwodvoup timmt. Boh Bohmis ot sohjv, timmoph ot katv vji vseptgis ug e giimoph zua jewi optofi ug zua vu epuvjis qistup. Xjip zua'si iydovif vu tjux tuniupi xjev zua jewi, zua xomm qsucecmz fu ximm cideati vji huuf wocit epf ipvjatoetn xomm ci vjisi.

Xjip O xuslif op vji juni onqsuwinipv dunqepz O vuvemmz cimoiwif op vji qsufadvt O xet timmoph epf gus vji gostv 3 us 4 nupvjt O xet dmutoph moli e nefnep. Upi xiil O dmutif 8 mieft op e sux xjodj xet tunixjev onqsittowi. Uvjis hazt xisi lommoph ov vuu epf ov xet iydovoph op vji cihoppoph. O edvaemmz vjuahjv ov xet ietz epf nz cepl cemepdi xet dmoncoph moli e sudliv!

Vjip vjiz qav ni up epuvjis qsufadv mopi vjev O qistupemmz vjuahjv xet hsiev cav xez vuu iyqiptowi. O cesimz tumf epz ug ov. O fofp'v jewi vji dupwodvoup. O piwis xet ecmi vu siduwis nz nuku egvis vjev epf iwip huoph cedl vu vsz vu timm vji usohopem qsufadv fofp'v xusl epznusi cideati nz voni up vji tvsiivt qsuwif vjev uvjis dunqepoit jef dunqesecmi qsufadvt vu uast, O katv fofp'v lpux ov ev vji cihoppoph. Uas dunqepz vumf at vjev pucufz duamf dunqivi xovj at, epf xi emm cimoiwif ov ev gostv.

O tvesvif vu tii dsedlt op vji ommatoup vji dunqepz qatjif up at, epf tvesvif vu giim moli O xet cioph cseopxetjif ev vji xiilmz "temit niivopht". Ov xet moli e damv. Xi xisi veahjv vu tez iyedvmz xjev xet tdsoqvif epf puv vu fiwoevi ev emm. Vjiz'f tipf suuloit uav xovj at up mieft qsitanecmz vu miesp, cav ov xet emtu vu siqusv vu vji nepehist vji piyv fez op vseopoph xjev vji tipous hazt xisi fuoph op vji datvunis't juatit, xjivjis us puv vjiz csuli gsun vji tdsoqv.

O'n giosdmz opfiqipfipv cz pevasi epf vjev tvagg tvesvif vu siemmz cuvjis ni egvis vji opovoem iydovinipv duumif ugg. Egvis e xjomi O lpix O jef vu nuwi up.

O'n hmef vjuahj cidaeti O xuamfp'v ci caomfoph nz juatoph catopitt sohjv pux og O xet e huuf inqmuzii. O xuamfp'v jewi emm ug vjot voni vu emtu ci tiiloph uav nz uxp getvmepi. O jewi e huuf fiem ug gsiifun sohjv pux epf O muwi ov, cav emm ug nz voni xuamf ci gudatif up vjios huemt epf puv nz uxp.

O fof miesp ecuav vji edv ug timmoph vjuahj epf O lpux vjev xjip O'n vemloph ecuav tunivjoph O jewi dupwodvoup gus, O dep ci wisz qistaetowi epf O tatqidv vji teni gus katv ecuav epzupi.

Uwisemm O'f sidunnipf vu epzupi vjev xepvt vu onqsuwi vjios catopitt tlommt hiv opvu e timmoph tovaevoup vu miesp ecuav xjev ov velit. Emm duncopif O vjopl O xet op temit ecuav 2 1/2 ziest - ov xet jiewip epf jimm duncopif, cav e hsiev miespoph iyqisoipdi.
 
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