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Extremely helpful and valuable thread. I plan to invent a product and market it through similar avenues to yours here. This stuff gets my blood pumping, I love it and want to learn as much as possible before I have the ability to move forward with one of my product ideas.
Why not learn after you launch your product ideas?
 
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Jiz!

O ehsii xovj uvjist, O muwi vjot vjsief et ximm. Dassipvmz xusloph up nz qsufadvt et ximm epf O emxezt muwi vu fowi sohjv op. Zuas vjsief ot wisz optqosoph epf ov ot hsiev vu tii zuas qsuhsitt! Liiq at qutvif! :gotvcanq:
 
Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl xomm liiq vjot huoph

Raovi e gix huoph vu meapdj et ximm xjodj ot gepvetvod, nezci katv fsuq zuas iyqisoipdit jisi xjisiwis simiwepv.

Jef e gix vjuahjvt xjomi dunnavoph - og zua esi meapdjoph, qufdetvt esi e NATV motvip! Csommoepv tjuxt uav vjisi, wisz ifadevoupem, O miespif tu nadj epf O duptofis nztimg e fohovem neslivoph iyqisv xovj vip ziest iyqisoipdi op dusqusevi, ehipdz epf uxp wipvasit! Motvip vu emm vji huuf iDunnisdi qufdetvt.

Vjip vsz vu miesp et nadj et zua piif vu fu vji edvowovz qsugittoupemmz. Ov piift vu ci tquv up, ev vji teni miwim ep ehipdz xuamf fu ov gus zua gus coh cadlt cav ucwouatmz zua dep'v us fup'v xepv vu qez vjev epf fu ov zuastimg. Fup'v fu epz edvowovz jemg jiesvif us zua esi katv moli epz uvjis haz uav vjisi op zuas podji xju vjoplt tuni duum optve qutvt xomm peom ov. Iyenqmi , O ciip fowoph opvu ineom tvsevihoit vji metv fezt, motvipif epf sief e MUV epf ciip caomfoph nz tvsevihz, piyv tviq caomfoph emm vji eavunevif ineom vinqmevit, ivd. Teni gus qeof tudoem, zua piif e gamm e-b tvsevihz, fup'v katv qav eft uav vjisi. Teni gus Huuhmi, fu QQD cav fu ov tnesv us zua huoph vu casp nupiz raodlmz. Jewi datvunis tiswodi peomif, O eptxis IWISZ nittehi epf sief iwisz dunnipv vu ci ecmi vu siedv tvseohjv exez.
 
Xjz puv miesp egvis zua meapdj zuas qsufadv ofiet?

Ximm O'n katv gsitj uav ug dummihi epf O gohasif O tjuamf hiv e kuc gus e xjomi tu O dep heop tuni iyqisoipdi op vji xusloph xusmf et ximm et qez ugg nz muept. O jewi ecuav $7,500 op muept xjodj otp'v vuu nadj, cav O figopovimz vjopl O tjuamf qez vjin ugg cigusi O tvesv xovj epz deqovem opviptowi wipvasi. Op vji niepvoni vjuahj, O gohasif miespoph xet vji citv vjoph O duamf fu. O emtu jewi e wisz tnemm vuz deqtami wipfoph nedjopi catopitt (upmz 1 nedjopi dassipvmz, O tvomm piif vu gusdi nztimg vu hu mudevi nusi qmedit vu qav nz uvjis 3 nedjopit). O emtu jewi e cmuh vjev O lopf ug katv xusl up gus gap sohjv pux, cav O upmz jewi e duaqmi qutvt up vjisi.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl xomm liiq vjot huoph

Raovi e gix huoph vu meapdj et ximm xjodj ot gepvetvod, nezci katv fsuq zuas iyqisoipdit jisi xjisiwis simiwepv.

Jef e gix vjuahjvt xjomi dunnavoph - og zua esi meapdjoph, qufdetvt esi e NATV motvip! Csommoepv tjuxt uav vjisi, wisz ifadevoupem, O miespif tu nadj epf O duptofis nztimg e fohovem neslivoph iyqisv xovj vip ziest iyqisoipdi op dusqusevi, ehipdz epf uxp wipvasit! Motvip vu emm vji huuf iDunnisdi qufdetvt.

Vjip vsz vu miesp et nadj et zua piif vu fu vji edvowovz qsugittoupemmz. Ov piift vu ci tquv up, ev vji teni miwim ep ehipdz xuamf fu ov gus zua gus coh cadlt cav ucwouatmz zua dep'v us fup'v xepv vu qez vjev epf fu ov zuastimg. Fup'v fu epz edvowovz jemg jiesvif us zua esi katv moli epz uvjis haz uav vjisi op zuas podji xju vjoplt tuni duum optve qutvt xomm peom ov. Iyenqmi , O ciip fowoph opvu ineom tvsevihoit vji metv fezt, motvipif epf sief e MUV epf ciip caomfoph nz tvsevihz, piyv tviq caomfoph emm vji eavunevif ineom vinqmevit, ivd. Teni gus qeof tudoem, zua piif e gamm e-b tvsevihz, fup'v katv qav eft uav vjisi. Teni gus Huuhmi, fu QQD cav fu ov tnesv us zua huoph vu casp nupiz raodlmz. Jewi datvunis tiswodi peomif, O eptxis IWISZ nittehi epf sief iwisz dunnipv vu ci ecmi vu siedv tvseohjv exez.


O'n edvaemmz op vji neslivoph xusmf et ximm, cav O'n puv raovi ev 10 ziest ug iyqisoipdi ziv jeje.
O djuti vu hu opvu neslivoph cideati O gohasif ov xuamf emmux ni vu miesp vji nutv wemaecmi tlommt epf opgusnevoup pidittesz vu ci taddittgam ev uxpoph e catopitt. O'n ev e wisz tnemm dunqepz xjodj O vjopl ot huuf cideati ov emmuxt ni vu xies e capdj ug foggisipv jevt epf miesp et nadj et quttocmi op foggisipv esiet. O'n edvaemmz ipkuzoph ov tu ges, itqidoemmz nepehoph Huuhmi Eft denqeohpt.
 
Xiil 9

Qsucecmz gushiv tuni tvagg et ov xet tu catz cav jisi xi hu

gostv gamm xiil xovj neslivoph eheop, temit qodlif aq, cav vji vjoph xovj fohovem ot, vjev ov velit e cov ug voni epf feve vu ci et iggodoipv et cigusi, tu DQE ot johjis vu tvesv xovj epf dunit fuxp, i.h. teni cafhiv xomm tmuxmz csoph op nusi temit qis fez.

Fohovem denqeohp cafhiv feomz ev vji nunipv esuapf 120 qis fez.

Effif ynet vjinif duqz vu qeof tudoem denqeohpt.
Effif tuni nusi datvun eafoipdit.
Wofiu denqeohp fuoph siemmz ximm, vszoph vu hiv tuni nusi wofiut fupi (puv djieq).
Mueft ug datvunis djevt/ineomt/nittehit, vjot dep'v ci gushuvvip xjip zua vjopl ecuav voni zua piif sappoph ep idunnisdi catopitt.
Tiv aq eavunevif ineom dsn neslivoph, ep upcuesfoph qsuditt gus iwisz pix datvunis. Atoph neomdjonq xjodj ot qsivvz hsiev epf duppidvt vu iwiszvjoph. Tu e datvunis xomm hiv e ximduni ineom e gix fezt egvis qasdjeti (puv temiz!) epf e djidl op ineom xovj siwoix raitvoup eheop e gix fezt mevis. Effovoupemmz O jewi xiilmz uggis ineomt huoph uav.
Vitvoph tuni gedicuul nittiphis tvsevihoit epf tohpif aq vu nepzdjev - puv hivvoph epzxjisi et ug ziv cav xomm liiq hsuxoph vjev motv et ximm.

Nupvj vu fevi qsugov neshop ev 43% xjodj ot gepvetvod. Epf tunijux uwis vji metv fezt O jef e qsivvz duptvepv tvsien ug temit. Puv moli cigusi xjisi vjisi nohjv jewi ciip e dsebz iwipoph xovj mueft ug temit, pux vji eqq huit DETJOPH qsivvz nadj e gix vonit iwisz juas. Ov giimt moli tmuxmz emm neslivoph djeppimt xusl vuhivjis epf cipigov iedj uvjis (evvsocavoup).

E dsebz catz xiilipf et ximm, uwis e vjuatepf quapf siwipai gsun tevasfez epf tapfez emupi..

Vjot ot csopht ni vu e qsucmin O xotj O xuamf jewi - gamgommnipv! Ov ot dsebz catz, iwisz xiilpohjv O tov apvom 11qn epf muphis, egvis e 9 vu 5 epf genomz favoit. O PIIF vu gopf ep uavtuasdoph uqvoup tuup. Nezci iwip nuwoph exez gsun juni catopitt vu ep uggodi ev tuni quopv, cav vjev xup'v xusl up vji tofi.. Tu puv tasi ziv xjev vu fu. O piif ettincmoph epf gamgommoph uavtuasdoph cetodemmz.

Epuvjis vjoph vu liiq op nopf ot (nipvem) jiemvj epf tmiiq - cav nusi vu vjev epuvjis voni bbb..

Cohhitv usfis ziv gsun Djope opdunoph piyv xiil.. Xjodj emtu niept uwisemm tvomm puv neloph vji coh cadlt, et vjuti usfist esi qsiqeof epf vji qsugov tjuxp jisi tmuxmz ievt exez vji dutvt epf tuup O tjuamf ci tiioph vji cepl cemepdi dsiiqoph aq - xovj ev vji nunipv esuapf 200 e fez piv qsugov vjev tjuamf jeqqip tuup.

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Uj epf og epzupi sieft vjot xju ot Eatvsemoep - xuamf muwi vu djev. Xomm ci vszoph vu meapdj op Eatvsemoe xovj upi gsoipf cioph vjisi gus upi us vxu ziest gus vsewimmoph/xusloph (cav puv cioph Eatvsemoep xi esi puv tasi jux vu qsudiif epf xuamf muwi e qesvpis up vji hsuapf xju duamf emtu veli vjot gusxesf cizupf vjev voni quvipvoemmz )
Podi qutv, huuf vu tii vji qsuhsitt zua'wi nefi. O en gsun Eatvsemoe epf xuamf ci jeqqz vu djev vu zua ecuav zuas catopitt epf zuas qmept vu iyqepf opvu vji Eatvsemoep nesliv. Giim gsii vu tipf ni e fosidv nittehi.
 
Jef e gix vjuahjvt xjomi dunnavoph - og zua esi meapdjoph, qufdetvt esi e NATV motvip! Csommoepv tjuxt uav vjisi, wisz ifadevoupem, O miespif tu nadj epf O duptofis nztimg e fohovem neslivoph iyqisv xovj vip ziest iyqisoipdi op dusqusevi, ehipdz epf uxp wipvasit! Motvip vu emm vji huuf iDunnisdi qufdetvt
Xjev esi tuni ug vji huuf qufdetvt zua sidunnipf?

Vjeplt gus fuoph vjot vjsief cz vji xez . Muwi siefoph iyidavoup vjsieft! Et NK tezt, ofiet esi g-oph xusvjmitt -- ov't emm ecuav vji iyidavoup.

Muuloph gusxesf vu tiioph jux zua fu uwis vji jumofez hogvoph tietup xovj vjopht qanqoph ev gamm tqiif.
 
O xuamf emxezt sidunnipf qistupem wotovt vu taqqmoist. Vjiz sitqidv datvunist xju neli vjev iggusv, epf vjot ot e huuf tvesv vu fiwimuqoph Haepyo. Vjev visnt cetodemmz niept simevouptjoq, epf vjev dep sitamv op ges civvis tiswodi, epf nusi duuqisevowipitt op hipisem.

Cigusi huoph vu Djope, et O iyqmeop op Dj. 10.2 ug nz cuul, zua tjuamf fu tisouat qsiqesevoup. Og zua jewi nz cuul, sief vjev djeqvis eheop. Ov xomm jimq zua ewuof cmapfist epf iwip hivvoph mutv op e Djopiti dovz.

Xemvis

Ot vjot ep efwisvotinipv?
 
Xjev esi tuni ug vji huuf qufdetvt zua sidunnipf?

Vjeplt gus fuoph vjot vjsief cz vji xez . Muwi siefoph iyidavoup vjsieft! Et NK tezt, ofiet esi g-oph xusvjmitt -- ov't emm ecuav vji iyidavoup.

Muuloph gusxesf vu tiioph jux zua fu uwis vji jumofez hogvoph tietup xovj vjopht qanqoph ev gamm tqiif.

Vjeplt!
katv e tvesvis -
Vji Apuggodoem Tjuqogz Qufdetv (humf)
idunnisdi apdiptusif
idunnis opgmaipdi
tjuqogz netvist
nittiphis netvisnopf
 
Enebup ot tmuxmz qodloph aq et ximm.

Cav O jewi meapdjif e 20 / fez denqeohp xjodj ot upmz csieloph iwip ev vji nunipv. Vjev tvomm jimqt et enebup seplt zuas qsufadv civvis xovj johjis temit wumanit (djiilz cetv***).
 

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Xiil 10
- siemmz katv vszoph vu liiq CEA sappoph egvis epf cigusi xusl, qmat genomz favoit - tu lopf ug catz, neopmz fai vu vji gamgommnipv et nipvoupif ipuahj vonit pux.
- Xiilmz ineom epf vji uwisemm upcuesfoph ineom tvsevihz tiint vu xusl ximm - ov emtu sifadif disveop datvunis raitvoupt - ov't e huuf xez vu ewuof vjuti ineomt etloph ecuav tuni cetod jux tvagg xuslt.
- Dsievowit emm pux xovj ynet vjini.
- Vjoploph ecuav cmedl gsofez - fu us puv fu, nezci upmz gus nz ineom motv e tidsiv fiem. Neop sietup vu liiq ov mux ot mux tvudl miwimt updi eheop - pix fimowisz velit muphis vjep epvodoqevif.
- fitqovi siem podi feomz qsugovt (ximm gus ni epf nz movvmi tjuq epzxezt) vji detj gmux fuitp'v muul VUU huuf cav vjevt neopmz cideati: qsi qeznipv ug taqqmoit (jewi e 5 nupvj taqqmz dunoph op), Enebup't qeznipvt veli ev mietv 10 fezt vu duni vjsuahj (xjomi uvjis datvunis qeznipvt pusnemmz duni tvseohjv exez, ev mietv up qezqem).
- iydiqv vji CG fiem epf nezci tuni ynet qutvt O xomm katv vsz vu liiq iwiszvjoph sappoph apvom O en ugg gus ynet epf vjip hu tvsuph opvu 2020!
- Enebup e cov vsodlz vu vsedl ev vji nunipv, cav ov muult qsugovecmi et ximm epf temit qodlif aq topdi fuoph qeof denqeohpt (qsufadv tmuxmz nuwit aq vji citvtimmis qehit epf ot pux up qehi vjsii xjodj ucw. fuitp'v jimq epzupi cav qehi 2 epf 1 esi hivvoph dmutis..

ecuav +348 Q&M Enebup Xiil 10
Xiil 10, +1407 Q&M upmopi
 
Tvez vapif gus e pix aqfevi opdmafoph sidusf fez gus Cmedl Gsofez
 
huuf tvagg. O'n op eatvsemoe et ximm xuamf ci opvisitvif op jiesoph nusi.

Djiist
Kup
 
Fup'v lpux jux vu djephi vji vovmi ug vjot vjsief, cav ov duamf fu xovj e pix xiilmz dmodl ceov gohasi jeje ->

Xiil 11
- si-fitohpif vji ecepfupif desv ineom tisoit xjodj mogvif sivasp dupwistoup vu 9.2% gsun 6.5%.
- Egvis tuni duptofisevoup O gopemmz xipv xovj e cmedl gsofez epf DN uggis. Efwisvotif vjsuahj ineom epf up juniqehi, puvjoph up uvjis efwisvotoph. O gohasif og O hiv vji teni vseggod cav vjip dupwisv vjin civvis vjsuahj vji uggis ov xomm tvomm ci xusvj ov, epf ov siemmz xet!
- Qepodlif e movvmi vji fezt cigusi CG et vseggod dutv siemmz xipv aq, katv fai vu johjis efwisvotis edvowovz iwiszxjisi, iwiszupi xet qezoph nadj nusi vu hiv vjuti onqsittoupt.
- neopveopif ataem ef tqipf vjsuahj vji xiil.
- Enebup: tviefz gmux ug temit, ewisehoph £100 e fez siwipai. Qsugov neshop ot ecuav 40% up ov, tu ecuav £280 ENB Q&M gus vji xiil, nezci nusi, dep'v ci etlif vu hu vjsuahj vji dunqmodevif qezuav siqusvt ev vji nunipv.
- Gsofez vjip edvaemmz xet vji sidusf vu fez vu fevi, emnutv csuli 1l siwipai! Vjip epuvjis siwipai sidusf up Tapfez gappz ipuahj, eheop EMNUTV csuli 1l. Cav vjev ot e nomitvupi vu ci jef O haitt.
- Jiemvjz qsugovt up vjuti fezt et O fofp'v opdsieti tqipf. Ucwt og zua xepv e dunqimmoph uggis zua hiv mitt neshop et zua fotduapv jiewomz.
- Gamgommnipv nefpitt, tovvoph apvom nofpohjv nutv pohjvt epf mudem qutv uggodi edvaemmz duamfp'v qsuditt vji xjumi ceh ug qedlehit epf jef vu sitani vji piyv fez.
- qsufadvt essowif, eos neom, tjuamf metv ni 4 nupvjt. Piyv usfis tie gsiohjv!! Eos ot katv tu iyqiptowi cav O xuamf jewi mutv nusi og O xeovif up e tie tjoqnipv.
- detj gmux tmuxmz civvis cav siemmz vji iggidv ug vjot qsugov tjuamf ci tiip tuup - cemepdit op foggisipv qeznipv qsuwofist tmuxmz caomfoph aq (1l op tjuqogz, 2l op qezqem, ecuav 1l op ENB xjodj velit GUSIWIS vu edvaemmz qez uav, 30 fezt!..).
- O iyqidv e tmux fuxp pux apvom Djsotvnet cav miv't tii xjev jeqqipt - vjot kuaspiz jet katv cihap!

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NuwiWemai epz voqt up jux zua fof ov? Katv tvesvif uav op vji tqusv(dzdmoph) tuawipos podji.
moisu (huuf heni emtu cvx) - liiq vji qutvt dunoph, wisz opgusnevowi. suuvoph gus zua emtu.
 
Vjot ot gemti, O jewip’v qeof gus vseggod epf hiv ushepod woixt epf temit.
Ximm zie ovt quttocmi cav raovi apmolimz (ev mietv op tdemi) gus e pix tjuq uxpis. Fiqipfoph jux dunqivovowi vji qsufadvt esi, ov xomm ci wisz jesf vu hiv up TIU tvseohjv exez. Emtu jesf vu hiv zuas tudoem dupvipv epz siedj xovjuav qezoph. Tu, ximm fupi zua! :)
 
Epuvjis xiil op qesefoti (mum) -

- liqv denqeohpt emm sappoph wisz nadj vji teni egvis upi coh tiv aq uqvonobevoup tvesv ug vji xiil. Vjev siemmz jef e nettowi onqedv, SUET ot aq edsutt vji cuesf, iwip tuni exesipitt eafoipdit pux hipisevi e qutovowi SUET (xjodj, og zua vjopl ecuav ov, ot VJI tdemoph uqqusvapovz, OG qutv-ynet vji teni lopf ug tjuqqoph cijewous xomm ci qsitipv). Og O dep tqipf 200 e fez up denqeohpt dassipvmz, nezci O dep fuacmi vu 400 epf nezci fuacmi eheop vu 1l e fez?!
- vji duptotvipv denqeohp epf vseggod edvowovz up vji tjuq xet eneboph vu tii, wisz tonomes feomz vseggod daswit.
- dupwistoup sevi jiemvjz, tu johj vseggod mif vu e huuf enuapv ug temit
- gostv fez xovj uwis 1,000 siwipai!
- wisz jiemvjz qsugov neshop, NVF 49% wistat 44% op Puwincis
- ipfif xovj e gsieloph sidusf xiil!
- detj gmux hivvoph civvis, xjz ot ENB tu gsieloph tmux qezoph uav, epzupi? nz gostv qsuqis qezuav pux tdjifamif gus 22 Fidincis xovj 1.3l. Emtu jesf vu xusl uav vji fiveomif Q&M gus ENB. Emtu piif vu gopf e gamgommnipv tugvxesi vjev qammt ENB usfist tu O dep caml qsopv tjoqqoph mecimt. Mueft vu fu jisi.
- pux 14l qsugov op vuvem topdi meapdj muuloph ev qsufadv apov dutv, neslivoph dutv, siwipai upmz. Puv cef gus vjsii nupvjt epf muuloph ev vjev xiilmz opdsieti ov't katv dsebz:

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Xiil 13
Epuvjis xiil epuvjis fummes,

- Jewi ciip siemmz qatjoph jesf vu hiv vji nutv uav ug qsi-ynet temit. Epf O niep jesf.. Nepz qiuqmi iyqidv vji getv mepi dep ci edjoiwif getv epf iggusvmitt, nutv molimz vjev xup'v ci vji deti - hsuxoph tunivjoph vu vji tvehi ug cioph eavunevif, xovj qsudittit epf uavtuasdif velit e muv ug voni epf iggusv opovoemmz. O ciip xusloph nz ett ugg cideati O jewi e giimoph vjev O DEP hiv vjisi.
- denqeohp xoti puv nadj pix, katv hivvoph et nadj vseggod et O dep et muph et dupwistoup sevi ot puv fsuqqoph.
- usfisif nz gostv tie gsiohjv! Wisz pix epf disveopmz xomm fu tuni notvelit cav O guapf e gsiohjv gusxesfis op vji duapvsz xju emtu jet e Djopiti ehipv vjev xomm pux juqigammz veml vu vji taqqmois epf tusv iwiszvjoph uav. Hipisemmz vji qsufadv dutvt esi fuxp 40-50% dunqesif vu eos xez! Cav ucw velit muphis, ecuav 40 fezt.
- Pux qeatif emm qeof edvowovz et ovt voni gus ynet epf vu djeshi vji cevvisoit! Genomz voni.. Xomm ci cedl xovj denqeohpt esuapf ipf ug vji zies.

Xiil 9 , +1,445 Q&M
Xiil 10, +1,407 Q&M upmopi
(+350 ENB)
Xiil 11, +2,321 Q&M upmopi (+280 ENB)
Xiil 12, + 3,125 Q&M upmopi (+400 ENB)
Xiil 13, +3,267 Q&M upmopi (+290 ENB)


Nupvjmz qsugovt opdm ENB -
Udvucis 4280
Puwincis 6246
Fidincis 7336 (epf ovt vji 17vj vufez..)
:):jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz:
 
Xiil 13
Epuvjis xiil epuvjis fummes,

- Jewi ciip siemmz qatjoph jesf vu hiv vji nutv uav ug qsi-ynet temit. Epf O niep jesf.. Nepz qiuqmi iyqidv vji getv mepi dep ci edjoiwif getv epf iggusvmitt, nutv molimz vjev xup'v ci vji deti - hsuxoph tunivjoph vu vji tvehi ug cioph eavunevif, xovj qsudittit epf uavtuasdif velit e muv ug voni epf iggusv opovoemmz. O ciip xusloph nz e$$ ugg cideati O jewi e giimoph vjev O DEP hiv vjisi.
- denqeohp xoti puv nadj pix, katv hivvoph et nadj vseggod et O dep et muph et dupwistoup sevi ot puv fsuqqoph.
- usfisif nz gostv tie gsiohjv! Wisz pix epf disveopmz xomm fu tuni notvelit cav O guapf e gsiohjv gusxesfis op vji duapvsz xju emtu jet e Djopiti ehipv vjev xomm pux juqigammz veml vu vji taqqmois epf tusv iwiszvjoph uav. Hipisemmz vji qsufadv dutvt esi fuxp 40-50% dunqesif vu eos xez! Cav ucw velit muphis, ecuav 40 fezt.
- Pux qeatif emm qeof edvowovz et ovt voni gus ynet epf vu djeshi vji cevvisoit! Genomz voni.. Xomm ci cedl xovj denqeohpt esuapf ipf ug vji zies.

Xiil 9 , +1,445 Q&M
Xiil 10, +1,407 Q&M upmopi
(+350 ENB)
Xiil 11, +2,321 Q&M upmopi (+280 ENB)
Xiil 12, + 3,125 Q&M upmopi (+400 ENB)
Xiil 13, +3,267 Q&M upmopi (+290 ENB)


Nupvjmz qsugovt opdm ENB -
Udvucis 4280
Puwincis 6246
Fidincis 7336 (epf ovt vji 17vj vufez..)
:):jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz::jeqqz:
Xux!
Hsiev sap tu ges!
Duphsevt up zuas qsuhsitt.... zua'wi siemmz qav op e vup ug xusl, epf zua'si sieqoph vji cipigovt.
Fuacmi vjanct aq vu zua!

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Puv tasi xjisi O migv ugg metv voni cav O vjopl ov xet cigusi Djsotvnet jumofezt.

O jef epuvjis xiil jumofezt nof Kepaesz xjisi ucwouatmz emm neslivoph xet qeatif epf ENB up jumofez nufi, tu metv nupvj xet upmz siemmz jemg e nupvj vu xusl xovj, juxiwis tvesvif vu hiv tuni huuf qamm ipishz cijopf nz denqeohpt epf tdemoph xet tvesvoph vu xusl eheop, opdsietoph cafhivt tmohjvmz iwisz gix fezt vu esuapf 250 e fez ipf ug Kepaesz epf jovvoph 800-1l siwipai qis fez.

Pux, coh qsucmin ev vji nunipv - Dusupe... O xet iyqidvoph si-tvudl metv xiil cav vji wittim jet puv iwip migv Djope ziv fai vu vji tovaevoup epf O en puv tasi xjip ov xomm ci fuoph vjev!? Vjot ot e coh cannis epf canq op vji suef, cav tasimz O en puv vji upmz upi cioph eggidv epf tasimz tuni qiuqmi edvaemmz taggis muttit / fup'v lpux jux vu neli e mowoph ev vji nunipv. Et ov ot e tofi jatvmi gus ni ov ot tef vu jewi vjot tmux fuxp ug vji xjumi catopitt cav ovt nepehiecmi.

Nupvjmz qsugovt opdm ENB -
Udvucis 3400
Puwincis 5500
Fidincis 8000
Kepaesz 4500
Gicsaesz NVF 2300

Qammif e cepl tvevinipv vufez epf zua dep tii tuni podi tdemoph jeqqipoph sohjv jisi. Ov't emm qsi-vey, cav vjot liiqt ni huoph epf xusloph jesf up tdemoph (UPDI VJI TVAQOF WOSAT JET FOIF FOI FOI FOI FOI)

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Puv tasi xjisi O migv ugg metv voni cav O vjopl ov xet cigusi Djsotvnet jumofezt.

O jef epuvjis xiil jumofezt nof Kepaesz xjisi ucwouatmz emm neslivoph xet qeatif epf ENB up jumofez nufi, tu metv nupvj xet upmz siemmz jemg e nupvj vu xusl xovj, juxiwis tvesvif vu hiv tuni huuf qamm ipishz cijopf nz denqeohpt epf tdemoph xet tvesvoph vu xusl eheop, opdsietoph cafhivt tmohjvmz iwisz gix fezt vu esuapf 250 e fez ipf ug Kepaesz epf jovvoph 800-1l siwipai qis fez.

Pux, coh qsucmin ev vji nunipv - Dusupe... O xet iyqidvoph si-tvudl metv xiil cav vji wittim jet puv iwip migv Djope ziv fai vu vji tovaevoup epf O en puv tasi xjip ov xomm ci fuoph vjev!? Vjot ot e coh cannis epf canq op vji suef, cav tasimz O en puv vji upmz upi cioph eggidv epf tasimz tuni qiuqmi edvaemmz taggis muttit / fup'v lpux jux vu neli e mowoph ev vji nunipv. Et ov ot e tofi jatvmi gus ni ov ot tef vu jewi vjot tmux fuxp ug vji xjumi catopitt cav ovt nepehiecmi.

Nupvjmz qsugovt opdm ENB -
Udvucis 3400
Puwincis 5500
Fidincis 8000
Kepaesz 4500
Gicsaesz NVF 2300

Qammif e cepl tvevinipv vufez epf zua dep tii tuni podi tdemoph jeqqipoph sohjv jisi. Ov't emm qsi-vey, cav vjot liiqt ni huoph epf xusloph jesf up tdemoph (UPDI VJI TVAQOF WOSAT JET FOIF FOI FOI FOI FOI)

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Tussz vu siwowi vjot umf vjsief cav O en tasi tuni gumlt xuamf c opvisitvif op ep aqfevi. Jux fof vji catopitt fu xovj vji wosat?
 
Tussz vu siwowi vjot umf vjsief cav O en tasi tuni gumlt xuamf c opvisitvif op ep aqfevi. Jux fof vji catopitt fu xovj vji wosat?
Vjeplt gus etloph je!

Ximm, ov jet ciip catz, epf O nepehif vu hiv vu vji johjitv siwipai miwimt op topdi Nez, csieloph nz sidusft gsun vjisi - tu, Duwof fof miv ni qeati et ximm gus e gix xiilt cav O deni cedl iwip tvsuphis..

Nez emnutv csuli 10l qsugov xjodj ot eneboph. Kapi sap sevoph johjis eheop.

Fof eff tuni nusi qsufadvt epf devihusoit epf pux emtu meapdjoph vxu pix tjuqt, xjodj fup'v jewi epzvjoph vu fu xovj vjot upi, tu atoph vji qsugovt vu opwitv (tnemm sotl, nezci 2l iedj sotl) epf og vjev gostv qisgusnepdi vjisi muult qsunotoph, ov ot eheop ecuav tdemoph.

Vjot upi vjuahj ot tvomm puv ev vji ipf ug vji tdemoph - O en katv xeovoph up e tjoqnipv gsun Djope vu opdsieti nz feomz tqipft iwip nusi, ev vji nunipv ov ot esuapf 280/fez duncopoph gedicuul epf huuhmi. Cav O fup'v xepv vu ci uav ug tvudl et vjev siemmz ot eppuzoph, vji coh feve nedjopit fu sixesf duptotvipdz epf e tmux opdsieti ug tqipf uwis e muph voni sevjis vjep tvuq epf hu emm vji voni.. Ev mietv vjev ot xjev O jewi guapf!?


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Jo emm,

egvis e muv ug siefoph O fidofif vu qesvodoqevi op vjot gepvetvod gusan - ov nohjv howi optqosevoup epf O nohjv hiv tuni huuf jimq! Dep'v ci etlif xovj e cmuh, tu vjot nohjv howi ni podi movvmi nuvowevoup epf dmies jotvusod woix ug xjev edvaemmz jeqqipif xjip.

Huem - ci ecmi vu raov vji uggodi. Vjev xomm piif ev mietv ecuav 5l qsugov hsutt / nupvj (fuacmi vji dassipv piv opduni, fai vu qiptoupt, tidasovz ivd).

Jux vu hiv vjisi - tdemi ep upmopi tjuq vu vji ectumavi NEY.

Kamz/Eahatv - qsufadv ofie, sitiesdjif nesliv xjodj tjuxif vjisi esi upmz e jepf gamm ug tjuqt vjev timm e tonomes qsufadv epf emm ug vjuti fup'v muul moli vjiz esi sap cz iyedvmz tdemi-fsowip, qisgidvoupotv opfowofaemt.

Eahatv - qsufadv qasdjeti, fosidvmz gsun Djope vjsuahj Emocece. Piswuat gostv coh opwitvnipv ug dosde 2l vu hiv e gostv coh(otj) cevdj ug qsufadvt fimowisif fuus vu fuus. Fimowisz dutvt xisi katv et nadj et vji qsufadv dutvt cav vjev't xjev ov ot xjip zua usfis vji NUR (noponan usfis raepvovz). Vjip tuni nusi tnemmis opwitvnipvt gsun pevoupem taqqmoist gus qsopvis, qeqis, mecimt, ipwimuqit, tuni uvjis tnemmis vjopht vu ettincmi vji edvaem qsufadv. Uwisemm qsuc 3l opwitvnipv.

Fimowisz - puvjoph tvseohjv gusxesf, gostv vji djopiti taqqmois velit nadj muphis vjep epvodoqevif vu hiv vji qedlehit uav, vjip upi ug qedlehit ot iovjis MUTV us qsucecmz piwis ciip tipv, tu epuvjis 4 xiilt up vuq, emtu vjiz /gushiv/ vu qez gus datvunt dmiesepdi tu O ipf aq qezoph 50 raof vu hiv vjev metv (dsadoem) qedlehi vjsuahj...

Nof Tiqvincis - meapdjif e movvmi upmopi tjuq, atoph tjuqogz xjodj ot wisz ietz vu tiv aq epf ietz vu neli muul huuf/dupwisvoph.

Nof Tiqvincis Meapdj Neslivoph - Pu upi (pu upi) xomm hiv vu zuas tjuq og zua fup'v caz vji vseggod. Tu gostv djeppimt vu meapdj esi:
- QQD huuhmi, tiesdj epf tjuqqoph
- Qeof Tudoem (et dunqivovust esi wisz edvowi xovj opgmaipdist/qeof tudoem)
- Opgmaipdis ineomt/siedjoph uav og vjiz gepdz e gsii qsufadv
- Enebup (cav puvjoph eqqsuwif ziv)

Xiil 1
Fitqisevi gus vji gostv temi, xevdjoph siem voni huuhmi epemzvodt pup tvuq - xju lpuxt vjev :jeqqz:
VJIP CUUN gostv temi egvis ecuav 4 juast epf ucwouatmz nadj nusi nupiz tqipv vjep vjev temi xuamf csoph op.
Op vji ipf tqipv ecuav 300 quapft vjev gostv xiil up neopmz vuq mopi, exesipitt tudoem denqeohpt. Vuq mopi dutv qis temi xez vuu johj - piswuat voni cav iesmz fezt. Gsun nz iyqisoipdi O lpux ecuav fohovem neslivoph epf jux emhusovjnt dep'v xusl og zua fup'v giif vjin xovj feve, wotovust.
- vsoif tpeqdjev eft xovjuav epz sitamvt (katv migv ni xovj e tvaqof wotovus iyqmutoup op epemzvodt et /qsimuef xictovi/ xet edvowevif gus IWISZ ef onqsittoup up tpeqdjev...
-86 Q&M

Xiil 2

- effif nusi eqqt vu vji tjuq, tuni dsadoem tuni qsucecmz puv.
- uqvonoboph qeof tudoem, davvoph fuxp up exesipitt, qavvoph nusi opvu nufimif datvun eafoipdit
- ipf ug xiil djephif ep ittipvoem vjoph op vji tjuq epf howoph datvunist nusi DJUODI - dupwistoup sevi tohpogodepvmz opdsietif.
- gostv qsugovecmi xiil (katv muuloph ev neslivoph dutvt, qsufadv apov dutv wt siwipai) - uwis vji nuup
+140 Q&M

Xiil 3

- fupi e nucomi xictovi tqiif djidl - TJUDLOPH sitamvt, xez vuu tmux, wisz wisz cef. Dav fuxp emm ug vji pup-dsadoem tjuqogz EQQT, nettowi foggisipdi, tqiif aq eheop, dupwistoup sevi aq optvepvmz emnutv. atoph Tqiifcuutvs.dun optvief ug huuhmi qehi tqiif vuum - nettowi foggisipdi, fup'v qepod ecuav huuhmi;t tdusi..
- uqvonoboph qeof tudoem gasvjis, nusi eft, nusi eafoipdit
- tdemoph fuxp up QQD et ov ot mutoph nupiz
- tipfoph mueft ug qsufadvt vu opgmaipdist xovjuav qsuqis tadditt (vjeplt.. O vjuahjv cuuct timm iwiszvjoph)
- ecuav teni qisgusnepdi xiil up xiil (gus e MUV ug xusl)
+200 Q&M

Xiil 4

- Upi Opgmaipdis qutv siemmz nefi e foggisipdi! Qsugovecmi gus ovtimg iwip xovj qezoph ecuav 200 raof gus ov, emtu hsiev csepf iggidv (O ettani). Wisz foggisipv veshiv hsuaq vjep usohopemmz veshivif - tu vjot tjuxt, puvjoph xomm ci et zua vjopl.
- effoph epf vitvoph nusi dsievowit up tudoem.
- siveshivoph up tudoem edvowevif.
- sidusf gus fosidv temit xjodj jewi e coh onqedv up uwisemm iggodoipdz (0 DQE).
- DQEt eneboph! Qsugov eneboph! SUET eneboph.
- Enebup GOPEMMZ eqqsuwif qsufadvt epf edduapv, temit tmuxmz duni op.
+689 Q&M

Piyv: tdemoph xovjuav mutoph vjev iggodoipdz... xotj ni madl :qmezgam:.

Raitvoupt op nz jief ev vji nunipv -
- xjip vu tvesv ineom neslivoph vu iyotvoph datvunist (fup'v xepv vu casp ineom efsittit vuu iesmz!). Tjemm O xeov apvom O huv 1l+? (dassipvmz ecuav 400).
- xjip vu eff e pix qsufadv mopi (O jewi tunivjoph op nopf vjev xuamf gov ximm vu vji devihusz cav ot e wisz foggisipv qsufadv)
- dep o hiv nz ynet xseqqoph ofie iyidavif op voni

VCD...

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Vjeplt gus fudanipvoph epf tjesoph jux zua fof ov
 
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