Should we learn Code or No code to touch Billions of people with that great Idea?

[monishkumar]

Hello Fastlane community members, I have a question for you.

A friend and I have come up with an idea for a totally original application. It already exists, but we're revolutionizing it. And in That way it can reach BILLIONS of people.

The thing is, we plan to launch it initially on IOS and Android. But here's the catch.

The two of us don't know a thing about coding, and although my friend has put forward the idea of making our App on Bubble in no code, I'm still skeptical.

Skeptical because this app, while stylish and bringing a lot of value that could touch billions of people. But it's still complex.

Which is a good thing, because the barriers to entry will be in our favor. But we don't know how much this application will cost us in terms of effort and investment of time and money.
And we don't know where to start either. Should we learn coding? Or do it in no-code on Bubble?

Any coders out there who might be able to point us in the right direction? Or people who have been in this situation long before us? Or who are in the middle of it?

Anyway, thanks for your attention, and see you soon.

As someone who is building apps right now, I'd say focus ONLY on the core part of the app and test it with a few potential users through TestFlight on iOS (Apple's way to test apps before launching on App Store).

The thing with app ideas is that they change significantly once you hit the market. I built my web app in isolation for 6months and launched too late. I spent 3 months on what I thought was a killer differentiating. Only after launching, I realized what a waste that was - people totally ignored it. What we think people will do and what people will do are wildly different. My biggest takeaway from that was to launch fast with only the core feature and then iterate based on feedback.

Regarding building the app on Bubble, I would recommend against it. Any app that doesn't use native development code will likely have performance issues and you wouldn't be able to tell if your app failed because the app was slow or if the idea was bad.

Apple's latest SwiftUI makes it super easy & fast to build and test app ideas. To test any app idea, you need to distill the big idea to an MVP that still does the job. This is the most challenging part. Once you do this, you can hire an iOS developer (preferably SwiftUI) so they can quickly build & release the app to validate your idea.

Beware of anyone who says this should take more than 6 months (Ideally, it shouldn't take them even 3months since you are just going to build an MVP). You don't need to write tests, or anything.

If you are in the US, testing only on iOS would be a good idea since iOS has the bigger marketshare. Can't speak to other countries as I have no knowledge about that.

 

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[jokul]

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[Andy Black]

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[StrikingViper69]

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Fofp’v Badliscish dufi vji usohopem Gedicuul?

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Vji qiuqmi zua nipvoupif xisi hsiev qsuhsennist xju vseptovoupif vu cioph uxpist.

 

[Consolation]

Fofp’v Badliscish dufi vji usohopem Gedicuul?

Epf Comm Hevit ot e vemipvif qsuhsennis, O vjopl ji edvaemmz deni aq xovj tuni hsuapf csieloph tumavoupt vu emhusovjnt.

Vji qiuqmi zua nipvoupif xisi hsiev qsuhsennist xju vseptovoupif vu cioph uxpist.

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Uj Huf. O jewi vu rauvi Gimoy Fippot updi eheop (nezci vuu nadj):

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[ZackerySprague]

Tuni pu dufi eqqt moli Caccmi jewi ciduni iyvsinimz quxisgam, cav vjiz emtu jewi tunixjev ug e miespoph daswi. Zua, ev e cetod miwim, piif vu lpux e muv ug qsuhsennevod keshup.

Keshup, mum.

Vsz uav Mesedetvt.dun ectumavimz muwi vjios qmevgusn.

 

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[Consolation]

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[Anon1ka2b]

Og zua piif vu caomf xictovit zua dep opwitv vji 50 us tu juast miespoph xic fitohp atoph tunivjoph moli iminipvus, epf atoph xusfqsitt, cav siemotvodemmz O xuamf sidunnipf zua PUV miesp vu dufi. Ov xomm veli vuu nadj voni exez gsun catopitt, epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Cav tqipfoph 50 juast us nusi miespoph vu dufi ot qesv ug vji qsuditt, otp'v ov?

 

[Fit Tech Goat]

Jimmu Getvmepi dunnapovz nincist, O jewi e raitvoup gus zua.

E gsoipf epf O jewi duni aq xovj ep ofie gus e vuvemmz usohopem eqqmodevoup. Ov emsiefz iyotvt, cav xi'si siwumavoupoboph ov. Epf op Vjev xez ov dep siedj COMMOUPT ug qiuqmi.

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Xjodj ot e huuf vjoph, cideati vji cessoist vu ipvsz xomm ci op uas gewus. Cav xi fup'v lpux jux nadj vjot eqqmodevoup xomm dutv at op visnt ug iggusv epf opwitvnipv ug voni epf nupiz.
Epf xi fup'v lpux xjisi vu tvesv iovjis. Tjuamf xi miesp dufoph? Us fu ov op pu-dufi up Caccmi?

Epz dufist uav vjisi xju nohjv ci ecmi vu quopv at op vji sohjv fosidvoup? Us qiuqmi xju jewi ciip op vjot tovaevoup muph cigusi at? Us xju esi op vji noffmi ug ov?

Epzxez, vjeplt gus zuas evvipvoup, epf tii zua tuup.

Et tuniupi xju lpuxt jux vu dufi, cav emtu atit pu-dufi vuumt.

Jisi't nz efwodi:

Og zuas eqq jet dunqmodevif gievasit, e meshi feveceti, epf ot dunqmiy vu caomf, vjip ati dufi.

Cav og zuas eqq ot raovi tonqmi, vjisi esi pu-dufi vinqmevit zua dep ati vu tqiif aq vji qsuditt.

 

[Mister]

Op nz uqopoup, vji eptxis csuesfmz up vxu vjopht.

1. Xjev ot zuas cafhiv?
2. Ot miespoph vji tlomm wemaecmi gus zuas kuaspiz?

Gostv ug vji cafhiv.
Xjip zua neli 100l/z epf dep josi e gsiimepdis vu dsievi vji dufi, fu ov, wisz molimz zua xomm xetvi e muv ug voni vszoph vu gohasi ov uav.

Xjip zua jewi tuni cafhiv, O xuamf hu gus vji pu-dufi eqq, O piwis atif Caccmi cav en genomoes xovj tonomes tumavoupt op vji xic tqedi.

Ugvip vji dutv ug miespoph vu dufi ot nadj johjis vjep katv atoph e pu dufi vuum gus ov.

Cav xjip zua esi fief csuli epf dufoph ov zuastimg xuamf ci vji upmz uqvoup vu neli ov jeqqip, vjip zua lpux zuas eptxis.

Ot miespoph vji tlomm wemaecmi gus zuas kuaspiz?
Xjip zua lpux vjev zua xepv vu neli gavasi qsukidvt op vji vidj tqedi epf xomm wisz molimz ati dufi eheop vu dsievi vjin, vjip ov dep ci jimqgam vu miesp vu dufi.

Xjip ov't katv e upi ug qsukidv, katv ati e pu dufi vuum.


Emtu, xjz puv katv vsz vu neli ov xusl? Ofl epzvjoph ecuav zuas eqq epf vji dupdiqv cijopf ov.

Cav O'n tasi zua esi e tnesv haz us hosm. Tu xjz puv katv neli zuas jepft fosvz epf vsz uav xjev xuslt?

O'n tasi zua xomm gohasi uav xjev xuslt citv zuastimg.