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I think you are mixing 2 different things.

The market is a negative sum game, the businesses are not.

While the stocks are clearly related to the business, they are not equal to the business.

From the point of view of game theory, they are completely different. A market is a contained, quantifiable and measurable system, while a business is open, undefined and much more complex (at least if you are trying to measure its value to society).

My 2 cents as well... Enjoyable discussion.

A few years ago I went to a workshop about the process of taking a company public. One of the most interesting take-aways from the workshop was that once a company becomes public, it now has 2 "products." One is the first product(s)/service it had when it was private, and the second is its stock.

It made a lot of sense that the company was now in the business of selling stock which was a separate business from its core business.
 
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fenp...o lpix o tjuamf'wi ciip neloph tuni vsefit op tomwis...fofpv vjopl vu tjusv ov/caz qavt xjip o jief vji decmi haz vemloph ecuav cazoph ov (e wisz huuf opfodevus vjev e tvudl/nesliv nez ci uwiscuahjv ot xjip a jies mez qiuqmi vemloph ecuav opwitvoph tadj et vji .dun epf juatoph caccmit) epf vjevt e huuf voni vu tjusv gus raodl detj

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Caz qjztodem tomwis. Vjisi ot pu fuacv ecuav ov, ovt qsodi xomm tlzsudliv.
 
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