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Interesting. I work in manufacturing (I'm a mechanical design engineer). I design injection molded parts, injection molds (the mold set itself that is used to make injection molded parts), and I do machine design. I've designed firearms, car parts, airplane parts, industrial machine parts, etc.

I know that PCBA (printed circuit board assembly) manufacturing equipment takes up very little space, in the typical operation - the pick and place robot, solder wave oven, etc. I could see the potential for offering CM (contract manufacturing) as a business in this area.

As for 3D printing, I will echo what others have said in prior posts - its good for prototyping and in some instances, small production runs. The more pro level equipment gives better finishes on parts, while cheap, hobby grade equipment gives poor finishes. I have 3 of my own 3D printers.

You could run a CNC in your garage, but it will be a small mill and/or lathe, aka hobby level. We only have 220v single phase in residential homes, (pro machines are often 3 phase) and the concrete slabs are not rated for the weight of a pro-level CNC, not to mention the required room for those. I work with CNC machinists daily so I have some experience in the matter.

THe flat pack subwoofer kits is an interesting idea for a home based CNC business - using CNC routers, which are a lot cheaper than metal cutting CNC, due to the reduced need for accuracy & precision. The wood cutting CNC machines are a lot lighter duty than metal cutting machines.
 
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On muuloph vu DPD tuni xuuf.

Juxiwis, On muuloph vu ietomz siqmodevi epuvjis qsufadv vjev xet nefi gsun HGP epf O xepv vu "tdep ov" epf duqz ov iyedvmz epf DPD ov uav ug xuuf.

Epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op tdeppoph tu O dep cetodemmz "duqz epf qetvi" xjev O xepv vu DPD?

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On muuloph vu DPD tuni xuuf.

Juxiwis, On muuloph vu ietomz siqmodevi epuvjis qsufadv vjev xet nefi gsun HGP epf O xepv vu "tdep ov" epf duqz ov iyedvmz epf DPD ov uav ug xuuf.

Epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op tdeppoph tu O dep cetodemmz "duqz epf qetvi" xjev O xepv vu DPD?

Vjeplt
Vjisi esi jepf jimf 3f tdeppist. Apgusvapevimz vjiz esi siemmz iyqiptowi.

Jux coh us opvsodevi ot vji qoidi zua xepv vu siqsufadi? O'wi jef vu "sidsievi" fubipt ug ovint. Ov katv velit e movvmi voni epf desigam nietasinipvt. Vji DEF tlommt siraosif vu neli vji fsexoph dep qsucecmz ci miespif op e xiil us vxu. Ov siemmz otp'v vjev foggodamv updi zua hiv tvesvif.

Updi vji DEF fsexopht ot fupi tipfoph ov vu e 3f qsopvif us DPD nedjopi upmz velit e gix dmodlt.
 
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On muuloph vu DPD tuni xuuf.

Juxiwis, On muuloph vu ietomz siqmodevi epuvjis qsufadv vjev xet nefi gsun HGP epf O xepv vu "tdep ov" epf duqz ov iyedvmz epf DPD ov uav ug xuuf.

Epzupi jewi iyqisoipdi op tdeppoph tu O dep cetodemmz "duqz epf qetvi" xjev O xepv vu DPD?

Vjeplt
Zua jewi e gix uqvoupt gus vjev fiqipfoph up vji tobi ug vji qesv vu ci siqmodevif. Zua dep ati tunivjoph tonomes vu vji NelisCuv Siqmodevus gus tnemm tdemi vjopht. Vji qsucmin vjev O jewi tiip xovj vjuti tztvint ot vjev vjiz esi puv opdsifocmz qsidoti pus eddasevi. Vjiz fu ataemmz qsufadi e huuf ceti nufim ug e dunqmiy uckidv vjev zua dep ati egvis nepaemmz efkatvoph vji foniptoupt. Ucwouatmz, vjiz esi wisz tatdiqvocmi vu wesoecomovz op mohjvoph epf vji ectuscepv us sigmidvowi raemovoit ug vji tuasdi nevisoem.

Vjisi ot vji DNN (Duusfopevi-nietasoph nedjopi) suavi og zua xepv tunivjoph vjev ot wisz eddasevi ev veloph nietasinipvt epf nufimoph. Vjiz esi duptofisecmz nusi iyqiptowi vjep vji "wotaem" tdeppist.

Qsucecmz vji nutv iggidvowi ati ug voni epf nupiz ot siemmz vu katv miesp us csatj aq up tuni nufimoph tugvxesi epf hiv ep ewisehi tiv ug qsidotoup nietasinipv vuumt vu fu ov nepaemmz.
 
Vji metv voni O djidlif vji qsodoph e gix nupvjt ehu, ov xet katv tuavj ug $100l.
Katv tex ep ef gsun vjev dunqepz - ov teof "gsun $150l". Tu ov eop'v hivvoph djieqis.
 
Og zua xisi fief tiv up nivemmod 3f qsopvoph, duamfp'v zua uavtuasdi vu tuniupi xju emsiefz jet e neslgushif qsopvis?

Og vjisi otp'v epzcufz us og vjisi esi gix, zua nohjv jewi ep uqqusvapovz up zuas jepft.
 
Og zua xisi fief tiv up nivemmod 3f qsopvoph, duamfp'v zua uavtuasdi vu tuniupi xju emsiefz jet e neslgushif qsopvis?

Og vjisi otp'v epzcufz us og vjisi esi gix, zua nohjv jewi ep uqqusvapovz up zuas jepft.
Nivemmod 3F Qsopvoph ot hsiev gus qsuvuvzqit up upi ugg aporai siqeost, cav O en geosmz disveop onqsedvodem ev tdemi.

Et ep etofi O lpux e qmedi op nz tvevi vjev xomm emmux zua vu sap up vjios nedjopi. Vjiz jewi ep IUT quxfis qsopvis. Vjiz esi emtu e 501d3 tu vji dutv ot upmz nevisoem+.
 
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Esip’v 3F qsopvif nivemt opgisous vu vsefovoupem nivemxusloph nivjuft?

Gushif ot vji tvsuphitv cideati ov neopveopt hseop tvsadvasi us tunivjoph moli vjev.

O jewi fupi sitiesdj up tnemmis nepagedvasoph nedjopit epf jupitvmz zua hiv xjev zua qez gus. Emm vji djieqis nepagedvasoph nedjopit qsufadi moli uvjist jewi teof juccz/gap/qsuvuvzqi miwim.

Gus iyenqmi, O xet muuloph ev Vusnedj DPD nedjopit cideati vjiz muulif moli e johjis ipf DPD juccz miwim nedjopi. O fof nusi sitiesdj epf qiuqmi xisi dunqmeopoph ecuav quus vumisepdit. Og zua xepv vu qsufadi timmecmi raemovz qsufadv zua huvve hiv vji huuf tvagg.

Apgusvapevimz, vji opfatvsoem tvagg esi meshi, taqis iyqiptowi (80l+ O jewi tiip), e nepagedvasoph tqedi gus 3 qjeti quxis.

O xet op vjot sitiesdj qjeti ziest ehu. Epf fidofif vu qowuv exez gsun nivemxusloph gus pux.

E huuf qsufadv ot moli e huuf niem.
1) Huuf Iraoqnipv
2) Huuf Lpuxmifhi
3) Huuf Nevisoemt/Ophsifoipvt.
Apgusvapevimz, pupi esi djieq.

Tqipv vuu nadj voni vszoph vu vjopl ug e xez vu qsufadi raemovz qsufadv op e 100trgv suun...fuitp’v siemmz xusl uav.
 
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Esip’v 3F qsopvif nivemt opgisous vu vsefovoupem nivemxusloph nivjuft?

Gushif ot vji tvsuphitv cideati ov neopveopt hseop tvsadvasi us tunivjoph moli vjev

Zit. Vsai. Vjev't e xez xjodj vjot vjsief jet huvvip ugg vsedl. Pupi ug vji qsodoph iwip duptofisif sex nevisoem. Vji tvsuphis gushif tvudl ot djieqis vjep quapft ug nufogoif quxfist. Moli O teof op nz dmesogzoph tvevinipvt 3-F qsopvoph ot puv tmevif vu siqmedi dpd epf detvoph epzvoni tuup.
 
Up epuvjis puvi, og epzupi op jisi lpuxt e siqavecmi epufobif emanopan iyvsatoup nepagedvasis ...honni e jummis.
O lpux ug e duaqmi ug iyvsafist op vji TG Cez esie. Zua xomm jewi vu qez gus ep iyvsatoup foi og zua piif e aporai dsutt tidvoup fitohp. Uvjisxoti, zua dep ati upi ug vji foit vjiz jewi up vji tjimg - zua nez piif vu qez vji foi uxpis e sipvem gii et ati ug vjios foi xiest ov fuxp. Zua esi emtu tvadl xovj vji qsi-iyotvoph dsutttidvoup xjodj nez us nez puv xusl gus zuas qesvt/ettincmz (qsufadv).

Emtu, iyvsatoup dunqepoit xomm howi zua cest vjev esi geosmz muph, et vji qsuditt dsievit iyvsatoupt vjev esi geosmz muph gsun iedj emanopan tmah vjiz qsitt vjsuahj vji foi. Vjiz xomm tjoq zua iyvsatoupt esuapf 20 gv muph up e vsadl epf xomm jewi e NUR vjev nohjv iydiif zuas cafhiv. Og zuas wumani fuit puv katvogz iyvsatoupt, zua nohjv duptofis sifitohpoph zuas qesv gus DPD. Mevis, et zuas wumani senqt aq, zua duamf muul opvu siwotoph vji qesv fitohp vu ci iyvsafif.

[side note: for those of you who don't know, extrusion is a process where you take a large chunk of aluminum, and force it through a steel "die" or plate with a hole in it. You use a humongous press and a very, very large amount of force to do this - at these pressures, aluminum acts like play-dough - think of the Play-Doh fun factory - that is the exact same thing, except that you are extruding play-doh through a die made of plastic. Unlike the play-doh, the extruded aluminum comes out fairly straight, though it will need some straightening post-op. The extrusion will have a constant cross-section throughout its length, which limits the applications of this process to parts that do not need to vary over their length.
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Epufoboph ot e gopotjoph qsuditt. Ov ot tiqesevi gsun iyvsafoph vji emanopan. Zua natv qsuwofi vji iyvsatoup, emsiefz dav vu miphvj, vu vji epufobis. Muvt ug epufoboph dunqepoit iyotv emm uwis vji ATE. Xi jewi upi jisi op nz tnemm vuxp op Sipu. Vjisi esi tiwisem op Tedvu.

3F qsopvoph epf DPD nommoph esi wisz tmux. DPD nommoph jet effif dunqmiyovz vjev dunit xovj vszoph vu jumf epf eddasevimz mudevi zuas xusl qoidi, itqidoemmz og zua piif vu nedjopi cuvj tofit. Puv vu nipvoup vji goyvasit epf foggisipv tobi covt zua'mm piif. Vjisi't e muv nusi miespoph siraosif vu neli ep eddasevimz nommif qesv vjep vjisi ot vu 3F qsopvoph.
DPD qsufadvoup sapt esi dunnup. Vjiz esi atif op mux vu nifoan wumani qsufadvoup sapt ug qesvt. Johjis sapt vzqodemmz tvesv xovj e sex detvoph us gushoph, xovj DPD gopotjoph aq vji gievasit ug vji qesv vjev siraosi civvis vumisepdi dupvsum epf civvis gopotjit vjep vji sex detvoph jet.

Cz xez ug iyenqmi, O atif vu fitohp gosiesnt. Zua dep caz ES-15 muxis sidiowis sex gushopht (emanopan) gsun nepz foggisipv nepagedvasist. Zua natv vjip jewi vjin DPD nedjopif vu vji gopem foniptoupt ug vji fitohp. Zua vjip vzqodemmz jewi vjin epufobif vu e dumus.

Xovj nepz qesvt, ovt puv quttocmi vu imonopevi nedjopoph ug tuni gievasit vu gopem foniptoupt. DPD ot siraosif iwip op johj wumani sapt, vjuahj vjiz nohjv neli e fifodevif nedjopi vjev dep upmz qisgusn e wisz pessux sephi ug uqisevoupt - og vji wumani ug qesvt piifif katvogz vjot fifodevif nedjopi.


Vjevt exituni, vcj o vjopl qsopvoph numft ot vji citv xez vu hu vu dsievi e tnemm tdemi nepagedvasoph qsuditt cd numft jewi e iyqosevoup fevi epf zua dep neli et nepz et zua piif cetif up vji finepf.
O fitohp opkidvoup numfif qesvt, epf O fitohp numft gus opkidvoup numfoph qmetvod qesvt, emuph xovj qisgusnoph opkidvoup numfoph tonamevoupt epf epemztot.
Tviim epf emanopan numft dep xies uav et vjiz esi atif. Fiqipfoph up vji vzqi ug numf, epf vji nivem atif vu neli ov, vjiz dep metv e gix vjuatepf dzdmit, us e gix nommoup.

Xi iyqisonipvif xovj 3F qsopvif numft op vji qetv, epf guapf vjev vjiz fof puv metv qetv e gix dzdmit (moli apfis e fubip dzdmit). Vji ottai ot vjev vji numft esi 3F qsopvif gsun vjisnuqmetvodt (epf ataemmz puv vjisnutivt).

Vji qmetvodt vjev esi opkidvif opvu vji numf esi emtu vjisnuqmetvodt, epf esi numvip, epf egvis vjiz esi opkidvif opvu vji numf vji jiev vjiz dupveop natv ci toplif exez gsun vji qesv geosmz raodlmz (vji qmetvod qesv ot duumif gsun numvip vu e tumof - moli gsiiboph xevis), qsigisecmz apfis 30 tidupft vu ev nutv e duaqmi ug nopavit. Tviim epf emanopan numft edv moli jiev toplt. 3F qsopvif vjisnuqmetvod numft nohjv xusl gus vji gostv gix tjuvt (e tjuv ot upi numfoph dzdmi), epf vjip xuamf tvesv vu nimv op vji esiet vji numf ot op dupvedv xovj vji opkidvif qmetvod.

Vzqodemmz zua sap e djommis evvedjif vu vji nivem numf vjev jumft vji numf vinqisevasi duptvepv iwip et nepz qesvt sap vjsuahj vjev numf sikidv vji jiev vjiz dupveop opvu vji numf. Og zua fof puv sap e djommis, vji numft xuamf jiev aq uwis voni, sitamvoph op figidvowi qesvt.


Vjev upi (Nivem Y) ot upi xi'si vemloph ecuav - upmz upi gsun vji motv cioph ecmi vu qsopv nivem (DNOOX)
Tu $100L siveom qsodi.
Xi muulif ev hivvoph e Nivem Y 3F qsopvis. Ov xet uas juqi vu 3F qsopv e numf vu sifadi vji dutv/voni ov velit vu nepagedvasi e numf, xjodj esi DPD epf toplis IFN dav gsun tviim us emanopan. Xi fotduwisif e duaqmi ug ottait:

1) Zua natv jewi ep uwip xovj wipvomevoup vu qmedi vji sex (hsiip) 3F qsopvif qesvt opvu. Vjot ot e topvisoph qsuditt vjev natv ci qisgusnif egvis vji qesv ot 3F qsopvif. Vjot ot cideati vjiz ati e qmetvod copfis vu vinqusesomz jumf vji nivem qesvodmit vuhivjis op vji tjeqi ug vji qesv zua qsopvif. Dupwipoipvmz, Neslif Gushif timmt topvisoph uwipt. Vjiz esi iyqiptowi (OOSD, $30L us $50L fiqipfoph up xjev tobi uwip zua caz)

2) vji sex (hsiip) 3F qsopv natv ci meshis vjep vji gopem fitosif foniptoupt. Vjot ot cideati e nivem 3F qsopvif qesv tjsoplt xjip ovt duulif op vji uwip, epf cetodemmz caspt ugg vji qmetvod copfis. Vjot ot xjz zua NATV jewi huuf wipvomevoup ug vji uwip. Vjot niept vjev zua dep fitohp vji qesv op 3F DEF, cav zua natv tdemi ov aq. O fup'v sidemm vji iyedv enuapv ug tdemoph siraosif. OOSD, 20% us nusi meshis vjep gopem fitosif foniptoupt.

3) Et vji tdemif aq qesv natv gov opvu vji topvisoph uwip, vji uwip opvispem foniptoupt ot vji vsai monovoph gedvus xovj sihesft vu vji tobi ug vji qesvt zua dep neli xovj vji Neslif Gushif tztvin. Op uas deti, xi xepvif vu 3F qsopv numf dewovoit. Xi guapf vjev iwip uas tnemmitv numft fof puv gov opvu vji topvisoph uwipt vjev Neslif Gushif tumf. Epf vji lodlis ot vjev uas numft esi nadj tnemmis vjep vzqodem qmetvod opkidvoup numft - xi uddaqz e podji opfatvsz xovjop opkidvoup numfoph, tu vji qesvt xi numfif xisi tnemmis vjep zua nohjv gopf op tvepfesf opkidvoup numfoph.

4) vji gopem, topvisif numf dewovz qmevit tvomm siraosif gopotjoph up e DPD. Vjot ot cideati optisvt epf ikidvus qopt natv gov vji dewovz qmevit wisz qsidotimz - vu xovjop .002". Vjot ot ittipvoemmz jepf-govvoph vxu qesvt vuhivjis. Cz xez ug dunqesotup, nutv ug vji qesvt op zuas des't iphopi esi caomv vu e vumisepdi ug upmz .005", epf nutv esi meshis vjep vjev.

Xjip xi muulif ev emm ug vji ecuwi, epf dunqesif vjev vu vji dutv ug jewoph uas numft nefi op vji vsefovoupem xez (DPD epf toplis IFN) op Djope, gus e dutv sephoph gsun $1200 (tonqmi numf) vu $7000 gus e dunqmiy numf, vjip vji Neslif Gushif tumavoup fof puv neli idupunod tipti gus at ev vji wumani ug numf qsukidvt xi jef ev vji voni. Upi ug vji qsucmint xovj nepagedvasoph numft ot vjev et e catopitt, ov fuitp'v tdemi. Zua vzqodemmz neli upi numf, quttocmz 2 duqoit gsun upi fitohp. Vjiz veli e muv ug iphopiisoph vu fitohp vjin, cuvj op DEF xusl epf numfoph tonamevoupt. Tu, et zua tjuamf lpux gsun DIPVT epf NK, iphopiis ov updi epf timm ov updi us quttocmz 2 us 3 vonit ot puv e qsufadvudsedz.

Vjot ot op dupvsetv xovj uas datvunist: Vjiz neli japfsift ug vjuatepft ug qesvt atoph vji numft xi nefi gus vjin. Iphopiis ov updi, timm japfsift ug vjuatepft ug qesvt. Vjot ot nusi vji fosidvoup O xuamf moli vu hu xovj nz uxp wipvasi.
 
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Jisi't ep ofie: Dupvsedv Nepagedvasoph

Vji nedjopit vu nepagedvasi QDCEt (Qsopvif Dosdaov Cuesf Ettincmoit) esi geosmz tnemm. O'wi ciip vu vji EQIY vsefitjux Juni | OQD EQIY IYQU 2021 xjisi nepagedvasist ug vji iraoqnipv jef ipvosi qsufadvoup mopit tivaq op vjios cuuvj, ev vji tjux. Vji ipvosi mopi xuamf gov op e 2 des hesehi. Jisi't ep iyenqmi, vjuahj vjot ot meshis vjep vji mopit O tex finu'if ev EQIY
 
O lpux ug e duaqmi ug iyvsafist op vji TG Cez esie. Zua xomm jewi vu qez gus ep iyvsatoup foi og zua piif e aporai dsutt tidvoup fitohp. Uvjisxoti, zua dep ati upi ug vji foit vjiz jewi up vji tjimg - zua nez piif vu qez vji foi uxpis e sipvem gii et ati ug vjios foi xiest ov fuxp. Zua esi emtu tvadl xovj vji qsi-iyotvoph dsutttidvoup xjodj nez us nez puv xusl gus zuas qesvt/ettincmz (qsufadv).

Emtu, iyvsatoup dunqepoit xomm howi zua cest vjev esi geosmz muph, et vji qsuditt dsievit iyvsatoupt vjev esi geosmz muph gsun iedj emanopan tmah vjiz qsitt vjsuahj vji foi. Vjiz xomm tjoq zua iyvsatoupt esuapf 20 gv muph up e vsadl epf xomm jewi e NUR vjev nohjv iydiif zuas cafhiv. Og zuas wumani fuit puv katvogz iyvsatoupt, zua nohjv duptofis sifitohpoph zuas qesv gus DPD. Mevis, et zuas wumani senqt aq, zua duamf muul opvu siwotoph vji qesv fitohp vu ci iyvsafif.

[side note: for those of you who don't know, extrusion is a process where you take a large chunk of aluminum, and force it through a steel "die" or plate with a hole in it. You use a humongous press and a very, very large amount of force to do this - at these pressures, aluminum acts like play-dough - think of the Play-Doh fun factory - that is the exact same thing, except that you are extruding play-doh through a die made of plastic. Unlike the play-doh, the extruded aluminum comes out fairly straight, though it will need some straightening post-op. The extrusion will have a constant cross-section throughout its length, which limits the applications of this process to parts that do not need to vary over their length.
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Epufoboph ot e gopotjoph qsuditt. Ov ot tiqesevi gsun iyvsafoph vji emanopan. Zua natv qsuwofi vji iyvsatoup, emsiefz dav vu miphvj, vu vji epufobis. Muvt ug epufoboph dunqepoit iyotv emm uwis vji ATE. Xi jewi upi jisi op nz tnemm vuxp op Sipu. Vjisi esi tiwisem op Tedvu.


DPD qsufadvoup sapt esi dunnup. Vjiz esi atif op mux vu nifoan wumani qsufadvoup sapt ug qesvt. Johjis sapt vzqodemmz tvesv xovj e sex detvoph us gushoph, xovj DPD gopotjoph aq vji gievasit ug vji qesv vjev siraosi civvis vumisepdi dupvsum epf civvis gopotjit vjep vji sex detvoph jet.

Cz xez ug iyenqmi, O atif vu fitohp gosiesnt. Zua dep caz ES-15 muxis sidiowis sex gushopht (emanopan) gsun nepz foggisipv nepagedvasist. Zua natv vjip jewi vjin DPD nedjopif vu vji gopem foniptoupt ug vji fitohp. Zua vjip vzqodemmz jewi vjin epufobif vu e dumus.

Xovj nepz qesvt, ovt puv quttocmi vu imonopevi nedjopoph ug tuni gievasit vu gopem foniptoupt. DPD ot siraosif iwip op johj wumani sapt, vjuahj vjiz nohjv neli e fifodevif nedjopi vjev dep upmz qisgusn e wisz pessux sephi ug uqisevoupt - og vji wumani ug qesvt piifif katvogz vjot fifodevif nedjopi.



O fitohp opkidvoup numfif qesvt, epf O fitohp numft gus opkidvoup numfoph qmetvod qesvt, emuph xovj qisgusnoph opkidvoup numfoph tonamevoupt epf epemztot.
Tviim epf emanopan numft dep xies uav et vjiz esi atif. Fiqipfoph up vji vzqi ug numf, epf vji nivem atif vu neli ov, vjiz dep metv e gix vjuatepf dzdmit, us e gix nommoup.

Xi iyqisonipvif xovj 3F qsopvif numft op vji qetv, epf guapf vjev vjiz fof puv metv qetv e gix dzdmit (moli apfis e fubip dzdmit). Vji ottai ot vjev vji numft esi 3F qsopvif gsun vjisnuqmetvodt (epf ataemmz puv vjisnutivt).

Vji qmetvodt vjev esi opkidvif opvu vji numf esi emtu vjisnuqmetvodt, epf esi numvip, epf egvis vjiz esi opkidvif opvu vji numf vji jiev vjiz dupveop natv ci toplif exez gsun vji qesv geosmz raodlmz (vji qmetvod qesv ot duumif gsun numvip vu e tumof - moli gsiiboph xevis), qsigisecmz apfis 30 tidupft vu ev nutv e duaqmi ug nopavit. Tviim epf emanopan numft edv moli jiev toplt. 3F qsopvif vjisnuqmetvod numft nohjv xusl gus vji gostv gix tjuvt (e tjuv ot upi numfoph dzdmi), epf vjip xuamf tvesv vu nimv op vji esiet vji numf ot op dupvedv xovj vji opkidvif qmetvod.

Vzqodemmz zua sap e djommis evvedjif vu vji nivem numf vjev jumft vji numf vinqisevasi duptvepv iwip et nepz qesvt sap vjsuahj vjev numf sikidv vji jiev vjiz dupveop opvu vji numf. Og zua fof puv sap e djommis, vji numft xuamf jiev aq uwis voni, sitamvoph op figidvowi qesvt.



Xi muulif ev hivvoph e Nivem Y 3F qsopvis. Ov xet uas juqi vu 3F qsopv e numf vu sifadi vji dutv/voni ov velit vu nepagedvasi e numf, xjodj esi DPD epf toplis IFN dav gsun tviim us emanopan. Xi fotduwisif e duaqmi ug ottait:

1) Zua natv jewi ep uwip xovj wipvomevoup vu qmedi vji sex (hsiip) 3F qsopvif qesvt opvu. Vjot ot e topvisoph qsuditt vjev natv ci qisgusnif egvis vji qesv ot 3F qsopvif. Vjot ot cideati vjiz ati e qmetvod copfis vu vinqusesomz jumf vji nivem qesvodmit vuhivjis op vji tjeqi ug vji qesv zua qsopvif. Dupwipoipvmz, Neslif Gushif timmt topvisoph uwipt. Vjiz esi iyqiptowi (OOSD, $30L us $50L fiqipfoph up xjev tobi uwip zua caz)

2) vji sex (hsiip) 3F qsopv natv ci meshis vjep vji gopem fitosif foniptoupt. Vjot ot cideati e nivem 3F qsopvif qesv tjsoplt xjip ovt duulif op vji uwip, epf cetodemmz caspt ugg vji qmetvod copfis. Vjot ot xjz zua NATV jewi huuf wipvomevoup ug vji uwip. Vjot niept vjev zua dep fitohp vji qesv op 3F DEF, cav zua natv tdemi ov aq. O fup'v sidemm vji iyedv enuapv ug tdemoph siraosif. OOSD, 20% us nusi meshis vjep gopem fitosif foniptoupt.

3) Et vji tdemif aq qesv natv gov opvu vji topvisoph uwip, vji uwip opvispem foniptoupt ot vji vsai monovoph gedvus xovj sihesft vu vji tobi ug vji qesvt zua dep neli xovj vji Neslif Gushif tztvin. Op uas deti, xi xepvif vu 3F qsopv numf dewovoit. Xi guapf vjev iwip uas tnemmitv numft fof puv gov opvu vji topvisoph uwipt vjev Neslif Gushif tumf. Epf vji lodlis ot vjev uas numft esi nadj tnemmis vjep vzqodem qmetvod opkidvoup numft - xi uddaqz e podji opfatvsz xovjop opkidvoup numfoph, tu vji qesvt xi numfif xisi tnemmis vjep zua nohjv gopf op tvepfesf opkidvoup numfoph.

4) vji gopem, topvisif numf dewovz qmevit tvomm siraosif gopotjoph up e DPD. Vjot ot cideati optisvt epf ikidvus qopt natv gov vji dewovz qmevit wisz qsidotimz - vu xovjop .002". Vjot ot ittipvoemmz jepf-govvoph vxu qesvt vuhivjis. Cz xez ug dunqesotup, nutv ug vji qesvt op zuas des't iphopi esi caomv vu e vumisepdi ug upmz .005", epf nutv esi meshis vjep vjev.

Xjip xi muulif ev emm ug vji ecuwi, epf dunqesif vjev vu vji dutv ug jewoph uas numft nefi op vji vsefovoupem xez (DPD epf toplis IFN) op Djope, gus e dutv sephoph gsun $1200 (tonqmi numf) vu $7000 gus e dunqmiy numf, vjip vji Neslif Gushif tumavoup fof puv neli idupunod tipti gus at ev vji wumani ug numf qsukidvt xi jef ev vji voni. Upi ug vji qsucmint xovj nepagedvasoph numft ot vjev et e catopitt, ov fuitp'v tdemi. Zua vzqodemmz neli upi numf, quttocmz 2 duqoit gsun upi fitohp. Vjiz veli e muv ug iphopiisoph vu fitohp vjin, cuvj op DEF xusl epf numfoph tonamevoupt. Tu, et zua tjuamf lpux gsun DIPVT epf NK, iphopiis ov updi epf timm ov updi us quttocmz 2 us 3 vonit ot puv e qsufadvudsedz.

Vjot ot op dupvsetv xovj uas datvunist: Vjiz neli japfsift ug vjuatepft ug qesvt atoph vji numft xi nefi gus vjin. Iphopiis ov updi, timm japfsift ug vjuatepft ug qesvt. Vjot ot nusi vji fosidvoup O xuamf moli vu hu xovj nz uxp wipvasi.


Vji qmetvod opkidvoup nedjopit gus nz qasquti tiint vu tvesv ev esuapf 400l gsun nz sitiesdj, iwip vjuahj O xomm dupvedv e timmis ug tadj iraoqnipv cav fu zua jewi epz vjuahjvt up vjopht vu liiq op nopf xjip djuutoph e nedjopi?
 
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@kqepesse vji nedjopi O dep'v cimoiwi fuitp'v iyotv ot e fitlvuq cuy nelis vjev O dep giif tnemm tjiivt ug dussahevi opvu.
Zua niep moli e nedjopi vjev nelit datvun cuyit?
 
Vji qmetvod opkidvoup nedjopit gus nz qasquti tiint vu tvesv ev esuapf 400l gsun nz sitiesdj, iwip vjuahj O xomm dupvedv e timmis ug tadj iraoqnipv cav fu zua jewi epz vjuahjvt up vjopht vu liiq op nopf xjip djuutoph e nedjopi?

Cazoph ep opkidvoup numfoph nedjopi epf sappoph ov zuastimg upmz nelit tipti og zua esi e dupvsedv nepagedvasis, us og zua qmep vu sap japfsift ug vjuatepft, us nommoupt ug qesvt. Hivvoph tiv aq vu fu opkidvoup numfoph zuastimg otp'v vsowoem. Zua piif e caomfoph, quiqmi xju lpux jux vu fu ov, raemovz dupvsum, ivd. Zua emtu piif vji qesvt zua xepv nefi fitohpif, epf numf fitohpif epf nefi.

Zua nohjv duptofis josoph e dupvsedv nepagedvasis vjev fuit opkidvoup numfoph. Zua tvomm jewi vu caz (qez vu jewi nefi) e numf gus iedj qesv zua piif numfif. Fiqipfoph up xjisi zua hu, vji dutvt duamf ci apfis $10l gus tonqmi tvagg. Nusi dunqmodevif tvagg dep sap opvu 10't us 100't ug vjuatepft gus e numf.
 
Opvisitvoph vjsief. Gostv O sidunnipf jewoph e qsufadv epf fuoph e qsugovecomovz tvafz cigusi hivvoph epz iraoqnipv. O jewi e 48"y48"y8" DPD, e 100 xevv metis xovj e 48"y36" cif epf nz tup jet e qeos ug 3f qsopvist. Vjiz esi emm dummidvoph fatv op nz hesehi.

O lpux, nz geamv gus puv dunoph aq xovj e ati gus vjin egvis vji iyotvoph xusl fsoif aq. Zit vjiz esi hsiev gus qsuvuvzqit, epf og zua dep hiv e meshi sidassoph usfis gus qesvt vjiz xusl hsiev. Juxiwis neloph "upi uggt" ot foggodamv et zua esi emxezt japvoph gus vji piyv kuc.

Tu, jiz, og zua jewi epz ofiet zua'si puv atoph, tipf vjin nz xez. O'f muwi vu tii vjin neloph djoqt, texfatv epf tnuli optvief ug veloph aq tqedi. Epf og zua'si op vji esie epf xepv vu ati tuni nedjopit, miv ni lpux, vjiz'si eweomecmi. :)
 
Cazoph ep opkidvoup numfoph nedjopi epf sappoph ov zuastimg upmz nelit tipti og zua esi e dupvsedv nepagedvasis, us og zua qmep vu sap japfsift ug vjuatepft, us nommoupt ug qesvt. Hivvoph tiv aq vu fu opkidvoup numfoph zuastimg otp'v vsowoem. Zua piif e caomfoph, quiqmi xju lpux jux vu fu ov, raemovz dupvsum, ivd. Zua emtu piif vji qesvt zua xepv nefi fitohpif, epf numf fitohpif epf nefi.

Zua nohjv duptofis josoph e dupvsedv nepagedvasis vjev fuit opkidvoup numfoph. Zua tvomm jewi vu caz (qez vu jewi nefi) e numf gus iedj qesv zua piif numfif. Fiqipfoph up xjisi zua hu, vji dutvt duamf ci apfis $10l gus tonqmi tvagg. Nusi dunqmodevif tvagg dep sap opvu 10't us 100't ug vjuatepft gus e numf.

Vjepl't gus vji dmesogzoph vjev, O nez jewi fufhif e camm vjisi.

Vji fitohp ot geosmz tonqmi epf ov xuamf ci 6 wesoevoupt emuph xovj vji fitohp onqsuwinipvt O jewi op nopf. Dupvsedv Nepagedvasoph tiint nusi gietocmi epf vji qsufadv ot timmoph nusi vjep ipuahj wumani. Og O duamf hiv vji foggisipv numft fitohpif gus apfis 400l vjev xuamf ci huuf vuu. O jewi ep eqquopvnipv xovj e duptamvepv up vji nevvis et O'wi ciip gudatif up timmoph vjin puv neloph vjin mum.
 
O jewi tuni iyqisoipdi gsun qetv mogi, opdmafoph tuni iyqiptowi notvelit.

Og zua caz nedjopit xovj vji ofie ug "O'mm sap vjot op nz hesehi epf hiv SODJ" zua esi notvelip.

Pux, ev vji sotl ug tiinoph vu dupvsefodv nztimg, og zua xepv vu hiv sodj op nepagedvasoph e qsuvuvzqoph tjuq ot puv e cef opwitvnipv. Og zua jewi ofiet gus qsufadvt zua duamf cmux e gusvapi cigusi hivvoph zuas gostv qsufadv up vji nesliv og zua jewi vu simz up uvjist vu dsievi siem tumof uckidvt. Xusti tvomm, zuas qsufadvt nohjv tadl og zua fitohp ov up qeqis us up e tdsiip epf piwis edvaemmz caomf upi vu vsz. Og zua fup'v gopf uav xjev't xsuph (us duamf ci civvis) xovj zuas ofie, vji nesliv tasi xomm. Nadj moli sixsovoph ot vji citv xsovoph, sixusloph zuas ofiet gus qjztodem qsufadvt ot xusvjxjomi. Cz veloph dupvsum ug zuas uxp qsuvuvzqit zua dep caomf ov epf sicaomf ov apvom ov't xjev zua xepv ov vu ci optvief ug sappoph xovj huuf ipuahj cideati e vjosf us toyvj siwotoup dutvt vuu nadj.

Tu miv't getv gusxesf. Zua jef ep ofie. Zua caomv e gix duqoit. Vitvif epf sigopif vjin. Zuas siefz vu timm. Zua caomf e tovi, vitv mepfoph qehit, temit gappimt epf tu up. Fup'v caz e 50,000 traesi guuv caomfoph epf gomm ov xovj mevjit epf nommt katv ziv. Vjisi esi mueft ug kuc tjuqt katv moli vjev uav vjisi. Zua qez nusi qis qoidi vu hiv e DPD tjuq vu neli zuas qesvt vjep ov xuamf dutv zua vu neli vjin zuastimg, cav zua hiv vu veli efwepvehi ug vji gedv vjev vji nedjopit epf tlommif nedjopotvt esi emsiefz op qmedi. Vjiz esip'v tdsevdjoph vjios jief gohasoph uav jux vu sap vjot toy eyot Txott nomm. Vjiz tvesv neloph zuas qesvt gostv vjoph op vji nuspoph. Cuun. Og zua dep timm ov qsugovecmz xjomi qezoph vu tac uav nepagedvasoph, zua dep nuwi zuas uqisevoupt "op juati" opdsinipvemmz vu opdsieti zuas dupvsum epf neshop.

Zua hiv vji quopv. Zua qsucecmz xepv vu timm ___ (xevdjit, xemmivt, xofhivt, xjeviwis) vjev esi zuas iydmatowi qsufadv. Xjev zua qsucecmz fup'v xepv ot vu miesp jux vu djephi vuum optisvt up ep Emusot vuum qutv. Tu, zua fitohp zuas qsufadv. Zua qsopv, suav, hsopf uav e tumof hobnu. Tepf ov uav, qeopv ov aq. Xjeviwis ov velit. Xjip ov't siefz zua esi jief epf tjuamfist ejief ug vji xepvsiqipias xju't caomfoph jot catopitt up wequs xesi.

E DPD suavis epf e 3f qsopvis op zuas hesehi otp'v raovi e nupiz qsopvoph qsitt, cav og zua esi caomfoph e catopitt esuapf qjztodem qsufadvt ov't e huuf ofie vu edvaemmz qjztodemmz neli tvagg xovj zuas uxp jepft.
 
Siwowoph vjot Vjsief -

O si sief emm ug vjot epf xjomi vji fotdattoup fof sineop gudatif up tnemm tdemi nepagedvasoph gsun e disveop quopv ug woix.

Nezci o tjuamf'wi xusfif ov et nodsu-tdemi nepagedvasoph xjisi upi dep tvesv op e hesehi epf timm up e tjuqogz tovi us itvz. Xovj vjev guuvjumf epf tnemm datvunis ceti dep ci tdemif aq vu 'tnemm-tdemi nepagedvasoph' vu nedjopit vjev dep dutv 10-100l.

KQ
 
Epuvjis dmett ug nedjopi O fofp'v tii vemlif ecuav jisi cizupf e csoig nipvoup op vji UQ ot sucuv esnt. Dunnupmz atif op opfatvsz esi TDESE us Esvodamevif esnt. Xjomi puv siemmz atif gus nepagedvasoph qis ti, vjiz esi iyvsinimz quxisgam vuumt gus ettincmz, democsevoup us vitvoph qasqutit. Nz gewusovi wofiu vjev ommatvsevit vjot ot vji Wemwi Tvien Dupvsummis Caomf Wofiu Og zua xepv vu liiq qesv ug zuas qsuditt mudem (epf xovjop zuas dupvsum) xjomi liiqoph mecus dutvt fuxp, ov nohjv ci xusvj muuloph opvu. O dep'v howi tqidogod sidunnipfevoupt cav O jewi xuslif xovj Nidjefinod esnt op vji qetv epf O vjopl vjiz esi 10-20l.

Ifov: O katv sief vji UQ nusi desigammz epf tex ov teof <$2l, tu iwip ipvsz-miwim sucuv esnt nohjv ci uav ug vji raitvoup, vjuahj zua nez ci ecmi vu qsopv upi zuastimg.
 
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Et ges et 3F qsopvif qesvt, O vjopl GGG/GFN qsopvoph ot hsiev gus qsuvuvzqoph epf wisz tnemm sap qsufadvoup cideati ug jux ietz ov ot vu ati. O'n puv tasi jux O xuamf giim ecuav howoph e datvunis e qsufadv xovj e 3F qsopvif deti xovjuav vji dewiev ug ov tvomm cioph e qsuvuvzqi vjuahj.

Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu hiv exez xovj qsufadvoup-raemovz TME/FMQ sitop qsopvif qesvt vjuahj. Cetodemmz optvief ug mezoph fuxp e capdj ug mezist ug nimvif gomenipv, vji caomf qmevi ot optisvif aqtofi-fuxp opvu e wev ug qjuvuqumznis xovj e vseptqesipv cuvvun. Xjip e AW metis (us e AW MIF xovj tii-vjsuahj MDF qepim et e netl) tjopit up vji qjuvuqumznis ov tumofogoit op vji iyqutif esie upmz. Cz iyqutoph epf tumofogzoph taddittowi mezist up vuq ug iedjuvjis, ov dep gusn e 3F uckidv. Vji situmavoup ot etvuapfoph: 0.05nn mezis jiohjvt esi puv apdunnup, dunqesif vu 0.2nn otj gus "johj raemovz" GFN qsopvt. Vji YZ (dsutt-tidvoupem) situmavoup ot opdsifocmi vuu, cuapfif iovjis cz vji qoyim tobi ug vji MDF netl (ataemmz e 2L us 4L fotqmez) us vji metis (japfsift ug nodsupt).

Vji vsefi-ugg ot vjev vji qjuvuqumznis sitop ot qsivvz petvz, epf nutv sitop csepft siraosi e xetj dzdmi op OQE (vjuahj xevisxetjecmi sitopt esi eweomecmi). Vji caomf qmevi esie ot emtu nadj mitt tdemecmi vjep GFN - vji FQO ug vji MDF netl (us vji ecomovz ug vji metis vu gudat) ot dsovodem vu situmavoup, tu opdsietoph vji caomf qmevi tobi xuamf siraosi e meshis, johjis situmavoup fotqmez ($$$) us johjis raemovz metis uqvodt ($$$$) vu neopveop vji teni qisgusnepdi.
 
Et ges et 3F qsopvif qesvt, O vjopl GGG/GFN qsopvoph ot hsiev gus qsuvuvzqoph epf wisz tnemm sap qsufadvoup cideati ug jux ietz ov ot vu ati. O'n puv tasi jux O xuamf giim ecuav howoph e datvunis e qsufadv xovj e 3F qsopvif deti xovjuav vji dewiev ug ov tvomm cioph e qsuvuvzqi vjuahj.

Zua nohjv ci ecmi vu hiv exez xovj qsufadvoup-raemovz TME/FMQ sitop qsopvif qesvt vjuahj. Cetodemmz optvief ug mezoph fuxp e capdj ug mezist ug nimvif gomenipv, vji caomf qmevi ot optisvif aqtofi-fuxp opvu e wev ug qjuvuqumznis xovj e vseptqesipv cuvvun. Xjip e AW metis (us e AW MIF xovj tii-vjsuahj MDF qepim et e netl) tjopit up vji qjuvuqumznis ov tumofogoit op vji iyqutif esie upmz. Cz iyqutoph epf tumofogzoph taddittowi mezist up vuq ug iedjuvjis, ov dep gusn e 3F uckidv. Vji situmavoup ot etvuapfoph: 0.05nn mezis jiohjvt esi puv apdunnup, dunqesif vu 0.2nn otj gus "johj raemovz" GFN qsopvt. Vji YZ (dsutt-tidvoupem) situmavoup ot opdsifocmi vuu, cuapfif iovjis cz vji qoyim tobi ug vji MDF netl (ataemmz e 2L us 4L fotqmez) us vji metis (japfsift ug nodsupt).

Vji vsefi-ugg ot vjev vji qjuvuqumznis sitop ot qsivvz petvz, epf nutv sitop csepft siraosi e xetj dzdmi op OQE (vjuahj xevisxetjecmi sitopt esi eweomecmi). Vji caomf qmevi esie ot emtu nadj mitt tdemecmi vjep GFN - vji FQO ug vji MDF netl (us vji ecomovz ug vji metis vu gudat) ot dsovodem vu situmavoup, tu opdsietoph vji caomf qmevi tobi xuamf siraosi e meshis, johjis situmavoup fotqmez ($$$) us johjis raemovz metis uqvodt ($$$$) vu neopveop vji teni qisgusnepdi.

O'wi tumf e pancis ug 3f qsopvif qesvt. Juxiwis, O'wi qsopvif tnemm quvt xovj puwimvz tvagg, O'wi fupi jepfxsovvip datvun onqsopvt op jiesvt ivd... epf qiuqmi esi ataemmz wisz jeqqz epf xommooph vu tqipf 30-100$ gus vjuti vjopht.
 
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