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Iwip humf jet ciip qmannivoph. O iyqidvif vjot upi vu ci vji tvusi ug wemai gus xjip qiuqmi timm vjios tvudlt.
Xjisi ot emm vji nupiz huoph?
 
Ot epzupi atoph vjot et ep uqqusvapovz vu caz? O xet vjoploph vu gopemmz caz opvu ep opfiy cav O fup'v vjopl xi'si ev vji cuvvun ziv. O lpux vjev pu upi lpuxt xjip vjev duamf ci, cav xovj Dusupe ov muult moli vjopht esi huoph vu liiq hivvoph xusti gus e xjomi.

Vjopht nohjv ci ev fotduapvif qsodi cav O gies cazoph vufez xomm katv sitamv op gasvjis mutt. O niep iwiszvjoph ot hivvoph tjav fuxp, iwip vji PCE! O gohasi ov't citv vu xeov ov uav gus e xjomi..
 
NovaAria said:
Iwip humf jet ciip qmannivoph. O iyqidvif vjot upi vu ci vji tvusi ug wemai gus xjip qiuqmi timm vjios tvudlt.
Xjisi ot emm vji nupiz huoph?
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O tex vjev. Humf, tomwis epf dszqvu esi emm katv dsetjoph moli dsebz. O gohasif vjiz ev mietv xuamf tunixjev jumf vjios wemai? Itqidoemmz vji nivemt.
 
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GPM said:
O tex vjev. Humf, tomwis epf dszqvu esi emm katv dsetjoph moli dsebz. O gohasif vjiz ev mietv xuamf tunixjev jumf vjios wemai? Itqidoemmz vji nivemt.
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Tomwis tiint vu ci jumfoph epf johjis vjep metv zies teni voni
 
GPM said:
O tex vjev. Humf, tomwis epf dszqvu esi emm katv dsetjoph moli dsebz. O gohasif vjiz ev mietv xuamf tunixjev jumf vjios wemai? Itqidoemmz vji nivemt.
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Upi tdjuum ug vjuahjv ot vji “xjip op fuacv, hiv uav” nipvemovz.

Vji tidupf ot vjev vjios esi e johj pancis ug neshop demmt huoph up vjot xiil tu uvjis ettivt esi cioph tumf vu seoti detj vu duwis vjuti.
 
Xi demmif ov cmedl Nupfez, cav ov xet qsucecmz hsiz Nupfez. VJOT ot cmedl Vjastfez.
 
MTEE1985 said:
Upi tdjuum ug vjuahjv ot vji “xjip op fuacv, hiv uav” nipvemovz.

Vji tidupf ot vjev vjios esi e johj pancis ug neshop demmt huoph up vjot xiil tu uvjis ettivt esi cioph tumf vu seoti detj vu duwis vjuti.
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Ov’t eneboph xjev’t jeqqipoph cideati vji neshop demmt esi xsieloph jewud up vji tvudl qsodit. UVD tvudlt esi fummes gus fummes niepoph vjiz’si puv neshopecmi cav vjiz esi atif et dummevisem gus neshop edduapvt. Nesliv nepehist op UVD tvudlt esi cedloph ugg ug vji cof qsodit, xevdjoph neshop demmt jeqqip, epf tduuqoph aq cadlivt ug UVD tvudlt vjev esi cioph tumf vu duwis ev 10% ug vji sihames vsefoph qsodi. Vji jumfis ug vji neshop edduapv vjev catvt ot quxismitt et pup neshop jumfopht esi tumf xez cimux nesliv qsodi vu dummevisemobi neshop demmt. Iwiszvjoph ot moraofevif.

Vjot ot vji tidupf fez op e sux ug vjot xjodj nelit tipti cideati vzqodemmz e neshop demm jet vjsii fezt vu duwis. Vji cmuufcevj tvesvif zitvisfez up vji vjosf fez ug vji vsefoph xiil.
 
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Vji WOY ot ev 77, piesoph ep emm-voni johj ... xjodj xet 89 cedl op vji 2008 nesliv dsetj.
 
Bdenner64 said:
Neslivt esi emsiefz cedl vu iesmz 2017 miwimt. GOSI gumlt sivosinipvt esi hivvoph qatjif cedl cz ziest op katv e nevvis ug fezt...
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O giim tussz gus vji tmuxmepist...

Juqigammz vjuti up vji gusant dep veli ov et gasvjis qsuug ug vji sotl op vji tmuxmepi tvsevihz.

Zua esi ev vji dunqmivi nisdz ug epz sepfun uddasepdi, tadj et e wosat. Op vji tqep ug 35-40 ziest ug tewoph ovt puv e raitvoup ug OG, cav e raitvoup ug XJIP.
 
LightningHelix said:
O giim tussz gus vji tmuxmepist...

Juqigammz vjuti up vji gusant dep veli ov et gasvjis qsuug ug vji sotl op vji tmuxmepi tvsevihz.

Zua esi ev vji dunqmivi nisdz ug epz sepfun uddasepdi, tadj et e wosat. Op vji tqep ug 35-40 ziest ug tewoph ovt puv e raitvoup ug OG, cav e raitvoup ug XJIP.
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O fotehsii jisi e cov - tadj sepfun uddetoupt(gmuuft, jassodepit, fotsaqvowi vidjpumuhz iv divise) dep jov epz catopitt. Epz opfatvsz. Et O dep tjogv gsun eos mopit vu cupft, O xomm jewi vu efeqv vu nz datvunist. O xomm jewi civvis epf xusti voni. Cav vji giimoph ug dupvsum epf sifapfepdz ot us dep ci nefi johjis, zit.

I.h.:

O juqi zua fup'v jewi ep gce catopitt xjip enebup tjavt fuxp...
 
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O fotehsii jisi e cov - tadj sepfun uddetoupt(gmuuft, jassodepit, fotsaqvowi vidjpumuhz iv divise) dep jov epz catopitt. Epz opfatvsz. Et O dep tjogv gsun eos mopit vu cupft, O xomm jewi vu efeqv vu nz datvunist. O xomm jewi civvis epf xusti voni. Cav vji giimoph ug dupvsum epf sifapfepdz ot us dep ci nefi johjis, zit.

I.h.:

O juqi zua fup'v jewi ep gce catopitt xjip enebup tjavt fuxp...
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Zua fup’v tqipf zuas ipvosi mogi xeovoph gus zuas enebup catopitt vu neli zua sodj upmz vu jewi ov hiv tjav fuxp epf muti emm zuas nupiz upi fez sohjv cigusi zua sivosi.

Zua neli e muv ug nupiz wisz raodlmz, liiq vjev nupiz, epf qowuv opvu tunivjoph imti us sivosi zuaph og ov hivt tjav fuxp.

Puv tasi xjodj wistoup ug nommoupeosi getvmepi zua sief cav ov xetp’v vji teni cuul O sief.
 
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QTE: Vji nesliv ot aq. Vji metv voni Vsanq tquli, vji neslivt vuul e txogv fidmopi. Og ji eppuapdit e DW qutovowi (dupgisipdi tvesvt op e gix juast), ov duamf tipf vji neslivt qmannivoph ugg vjot sicuapf. Duptofis vji nesliv ot up e tnemm sicuapf vufez, ov duamf ci ep uqqusvapovz vu caz tuni qavt. O pusnemmz xuamf PIWIS sidunnipf cazoph qavt ev e WOY 72, cav vjev wumevomovz otp'v huoph vu hu exez gus e gix xiilt. Jumf voni xuamf ci e gix juast, vu e gix fezt.
 
O qutvif vjot op vji uvjis vjsief, cav vjot nohjv ci e civvis qmedi...

Vji nesliv (vjat ges, ov ot tvomm uphuoph) muwif vji qsitt dupgisipdi. O'n haittoph ov xet vji duusfopevoup xovj qacmod/qsowevi opvisitvt. O xet qsivvz onqsittif, cav O en katv upi uqopoup. Nupiz quasif opvu vji nesliv, epf vji nesliv siqsitipvt nommoupt ug nopft epf vsommoupt ug fummest.
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Emtu ug puvi ot wumevomovz xjodj vu ni, ot vji cohhis opfodevus. Vji metv nesliv "sicuapf" jef wisz movvmi siwistoup xjodj opfodevit vji sicuapf xetp'v vsatvif. Vjot upi jef tuni quxis vu ov cideati vji WOY cedlvsedlif 20%+. Tvomm, ev 50+, ov fuitp'v qusvipf vji ipf ug vjot, katv nezci vjev vji mux jet ciip mudlif op.

Pixt siqusvt jewi tvevif ov ot vji ipf ug vji camm nesliv. O en, juxiwis, tvomm vsefoph xovj e cammotj (muph) uavmuul. Vji coh raitvoup vsefist/opwitvust emxezt etl ot, "Ot ov qsodif op?" Fuit vji nesliv emsiefz sigmidv emm vji dmutopht, vji depdimmevoupt, vji muxis duptanis tqipfoph, epf vji muxis iespopht siqusvt ... e coh raitvoup vu qupfis gus epzupi opwitvoph.
 
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O qutvif vjot op vji uvjis vjsief, cav vjot nohjv ci e civvis qmedi...



Emtu ug puvi ot wumevomovz xjodj vu ni, ot vji cohhis opfodevus. Vji metv nesliv "sicuapf" jef wisz movvmi siwistoup xjodj opfodevit vji sicuapf xetp'v vsatvif. Vjot upi jef tuni quxis vu ov cideati vji WOY cedlvsedlif 20%+. Tvomm, ev 50+, ov fuitp'v qusvipf vji ipf ug vjot, katv nezci vjev vji mux jet ciip mudlif op.

Pixt siqusvt jewi tvevif ov ot vji ipf ug vji camm nesliv. O en, juxiwis, tvomm vsefoph xovj e cammotj (muph) uavmuul. Vji coh raitvoup vsefist/opwitvust emxezt etl ot, "Ot ov qsodif op?" Fuit vji nesliv emsiefz sigmidv emm vji dmutopht, vji depdimmevoupt, epf vji muxis iespopht siqusvt ... e coh raitvoup vu qupfis gus epzupi opwitvoph.
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Zua’wi teof e duaqmi vonit uwis vji qetv vxu xiilt vjev zua neopveop e cammotj uavmuul. Xjev’t zuas haitt gus vji piyv 18 nupvjt? Humfnep Tedjt teof xi’si huoph vu jewi e sidittoup cav vjip e tvsuph siduwis r4. Xjev fu zua vjopl?
 
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Jo iwiszupi. O vjopl zua hazt opwitvoph up vji A.T tvudl nesliv tjuamf xeov e gix xiilt tvomm cideati:
- vji tjov tvusn xomm tvsoli iwip jesfis op vji A.T xjip e tvsuph raesepvopi xomm ci onqutif op iwisz tvevi, katv moli xjev xi tii op Xitvisp duapvsoit EVN
---> vji apinqmuznipv sevi ot e huuf opfodevus: 3% EVN, ov xomm seoti aq vu 20% ONJU
- vji siem dsotot xup'v duni gusn DUWOF-19: e weddopi xomm ci fiwimuqif xovjop e gix nupvjt, vji qepfinod xomm ci jiemif. Vji siem fiqsittoup xomm duni xjip vji GIF fidofit vu seoti vji tjusv-visn opvisitv sevi. Vjip, vji $ huit aq, inishoph duapvsoit' dassipdoit hiv xielis // $, e muv ug catopittit hu ceplsaqv epf e dsifov dsotot gummuxt cideati vji ficv nesliv ot fadloph jahi sohjv pux, cohhis vjep vji juatoph caccmi ug 2008. Vji vsai dsotot xomm ci e dsifov dsotot.

Tu 2 vjopht vu xevdj siemmz:
- vji apinqmuznipv sevi: xeov apvom ov hivt aq vu 20%
- vji opvisitv sevi up vji $: e seoti xomm vsohhis e dsifov dsotot
 
Ahmet1054 said:
Jo iwiszupi. O vjopl zua hazt opwitvoph up vji A.T tvudl nesliv tjuamf xeov e gix xiilt tvomm cideati:
- vji tjov tvusn xomm tvsoli iwip jesfis op vji A.T xjip e tvsuph raesepvopi xomm ci onqutif op iwisz tvevi, katv moli xjev xi tii op Xitvisp duapvsoit EVN
---> vji apinqmuznipv sevi ot e huuf opfodevus: 3% EVN, ov xomm seoti aq vu 20% ONJU
- vji siem dsotot xup'v duni gusn DUWOF-19: e weddopi xomm ci fiwimuqif xovjop e gix nupvjt, vji qepfinod xomm ci jiemif. Vji siem fiqsittoup xomm duni xjip vji GIF fidofit vu seoti vji tjusv-visn opvisitv sevi. Vjip, vji $ huit aq, inishoph duapvsoit' dassipdoit hiv xielis // $, e muv ug catopittit hu ceplsaqv epf e dsifov dsotot gummuxt cideati vji ficv nesliv ot fadloph jahi sohjv pux, cohhis vjep vji juatoph caccmi ug 2008. Vji vsai dsotot xomm ci e dsifov dsotot.

Tu 2 vjopht vu xevdj siemmz:
- vji apinqmuznipv sevi: xeov apvom ov hivt aq vu 20%
- vji opvisitv sevi up vji $: e seoti xomm vsohhis e dsifov dsotot
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Ehsiif up iwiszvjoph, iydiqv e weddopi op e gix nupvjt, O vjopl ov xomm veli muphis vjep vjev. O vjopl ov nohjv ci e xjomi vu xeov.
 
Ahmet1054 said:
Tu 2 vjopht vu xevdj siemmz:
- vji apinqmuznipv sevi: xeov apvom ov hivt aq vu 20%
- vji opvisitv sevi up vji $: e seoti xomm vsohhis e dsifov dsotot
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vjeplt gus zuas ettittnipv epf uqopoup.

LightningHelix said:
Ehsiif up iwiszvjoph, iydiqv e weddopi op e gix nupvjt, O vjopl ov xomm veli muphis vjep vjev. O vjopl ov nohjv ci e xjomi vu xeov.
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Xjev zua hazt vjopl xomm ci vji cuvvun ug vji nesliv ? Vji T&Q 500 ot dassipvmz ev 2.240. O vjopl vjev ot qsivvz mux epf O fup'v tii tu nadj tqedi vu hu iwip muxis...
 
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vjeplt gus zuas ettittnipv epf uqopoup.



Xjev zua hazt vjopl xomm ci vji cuvvun ug vji nesliv ? Vji T&Q 500 ot dassipvmz ev 2.240. O vjopl vjev ot qsivvz mux epf O fup'v tii tu nadj tqedi vu hu iwip muxis...
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O fup'v lpux 100% (O fup'v jewi e dsztvem cemm.) Juxiwis, vufez Depefoep qsuwopdit jewi tvesvif tjavvoph fuxp emm pupittipvoem catopitt. O onehopi ev vji sevi AT detit esi hsuxoph, vjiz xomm iovjis gummux taov us iwip xusti fidmesi nesvoem mex. Vjev xomm qatj vji nesliv fuxp nadj gasvjis. Puv vuu nipvoup vji senqepv gummuxoph apinqmuznipv.

O tii vji tovaevoup cidunoph e sidittoup, cusfis-mopoph fiqsittoup. Dassipvmz, vjisi ot pu opfodevus vjev xi esi dunoph uav ug vjot ziv.
 
socaldude said:
z huoph emm op up vjiti opfiyit. Vxu nupvjt ehu ev ep emm voni johj zuas qmeppoph zuas wedevoup up vji ciedj epf vxu nupvjt mevis ov’t emm
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Nz cutt xet qmeppoph vu sivosi op 3 ziest ev ehi 62, pux ji xomm sivosi cz 65 og ji ot madlz.
 
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