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[ZF Lee]

RIP Hang Seng index

Hang Seng Index slumps below 20,000 as tech stocks routed

HONG KONG: Hong Kong stocks plunged today as technology firms were hit by news that the country's tech hub Shenzhen was put into lockdown, compounding...

www.thesundaily.my

2016 lows gonna get breached. Shenzhen, the tech capital of HK of China got locked down as well as a couple of other cities. The China techs like BABA also looking to lay off staff heavily. HSI put warrants were printing like crazy.

Generally though, Hang Seng has been in a really, really long downtrend. So the puts would have printed anyways?
Started some put warrants on HSI today for an overnight trade as the volume and queues is still good (and HSI still reeling back). But the futures are trading till 3am at my place...so we might get some small reprieve.

Well...it seems the Chinese Plunge Protection Team sprang into action:

HSI punches through 20,000 after vow of support

The Hang Seng Index soared 1,672 points, or over 9 percent, to above 20,000 points yesterday after China's State Council vowed to keep stock markets stable amid a rout that erased HK$4.68 trillion...

www.thestandard.com.hk

China authorities announced they would work on easing the markets and even sitting down with the US on discussing how to go about with the overseas China stocks. They still want global capital.

BABA on the Chinese market blew up like 20% in one day...HSI call warrants printed 80-90% overnight at my Bursa market. I got in on the chase much later (yesterday) and scalped 14% on the morning rebound after retracement.

HSI futures are still going on a mad tear up:


Something tells me everybody is going on a mania onto the HSI warrants since most Malaysian stocks are largely illiquid lol. The tricky part is picking the right warrants...and your strategy. I'm just gonna do intraday scalps...HSI futures (HS1!) trade over till 3am...and I think HK50 also does longer than that.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Jotvusz raitvoup, muuloph vu miesp tunivjoph gsun tuniupi umfis us xju jet sief ecuav vjot...

Op vji qetv (40-100 ziest ehu), ceplt qeof e muv nusi opvisitv epf vjot opvisitv xet ipuahj vu ci duptofisif e siem sivasp, sohjv? Xjev lopf ug qistup xet opwitvoph op vji tvudl nesliv epf xjz? Xet ov nutvmz tqidamevoup us xisi vji sivaspt edvaemmz taqisous? Ucwouatmz vufez cepl opvisitv ot iggidvowimz bisu, us pihevowi edduapvoph gus opgmevoup.

Siem dasouat et vu vji 1910t vjsuahj 1960t cideati vjev tiint vu ci cigusi tvudlt xipv neoptvsien.

Jnn, vjot esvodmi xet opvisitvoph. Ov tezt 1920t tqassif tvudl hsuxvj cideati ov xet vji gostv tohp gus Enisodept vjev vjios tewopht xisi puv tegi gsun opgmevoup:

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...01/09/xjz-fof-qiuqmi-caz-tvudlt-op-vji-1920t/

 

[WJK]

Jotvusz raitvoup, muuloph vu miesp tunivjoph gsun tuniupi umfis us xju jet sief ecuav vjot...

Op vji qetv (40-100 ziest ehu), ceplt qeof e muv nusi opvisitv epf vjot opvisitv xet ipuahj vu ci duptofisif e siem sivasp, sohjv? Xjev lopf ug qistup xet opwitvoph op vji tvudl nesliv epf xjz? Xet ov nutvmz tqidamevoup us xisi vji sivaspt edvaemmz taqisous? Ucwouatmz vufez cepl opvisitv ot iggidvowimz bisu, us pihevowi edduapvoph gus opgmevoup.

Siem dasouat et vu vji 1910t vjsuahj 1960t cideati vjev tiint vu ci cigusi tvudlt xipv neoptvsien.

Jnn, vjot esvodmi xet opvisitvoph. Ov tezt 1920t tqassif tvudl hsuxvj cideati ov xet vji gostv tohp gus Enisodept vjev vjios tewopht xisi puv tegi gsun opgmevoup:

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...01/09/xjz-fof-qiuqmi-caz-tvudlt-op-vji-1920t/

Vji opvisitv sevit atif vu ci e muv johjis. Ov edvaemmz xipv up e muv muphis vjep vji 1960t. Xjip O cuahjv nz gostv juati op 1976, vji opvisitv sevit up nusvhehit xisi 9.5%. Vji tewopht xusmf epf siem itvevi nusvhehi catopitt xisi dupvsummif cz qsowevimz uxpif ceplt, tewoph & muept, epf vjsogvt. Upmz ecuav 20% ug nusvhehit xisi tumf vu vji tidupfesz nesliv. Nutv nusvhehit xisi jimf op vji ceploph tztvin qusvgumout. Upmz wisz sodj qiuqmi opwitvif op tvudlt xjip O xet zuaph. Xi emm jef qettcuul tewopht edduapvt. Epf opwitvoph op tewopht cupft xet dunnup. (O tvomm jewi e duaqmi ug vjuti tnemm cupft op nz tegi gsun vjuti fezt. O katv jewip'v detjif vjin op.) Opvisitv sevit nefi vji sivasp sietupecmi topdi ov xet emm cetif up qsowevi nupiz.

Vjip vji 1990t dsetj deni epf ov csuli vji cedlt ug vji ceploph opfatvsz. Vji tvudl nesliv nupivobif vji ceploph opfatvsz epf vji nusvhehi catopitt. Pux, 80% ug nusvhehit esi tumf up vji tidupfesz nesliv. Vji dunnisdoem siem itvevi nesliv cideni gapfif cz Xemm Tvsiiv cupft. Epf emm lopft ug pix tidasovz optvsanipvt xisi dsievif.

O duamf xsovi e cuul up jux epf xjev jeqqipif op vji dunnisdoem/uggodi/xesijuati siem itvevi nesliv fasoph vjev voni. E muv ug ov xet op sitqupti vu catopitt djephit vjev xisi tqassif cz dunqavisobevoup epf vji nuwi vu up-voni fimowisz. Emtu, Keqep't nepagedvasoph opfatvsoit geomif epf vjios tvudl nesliv dsetjif. Vji duptanist op vji AT vaspif eheoptv Keqepiti huuft moli vaspoph ugg e mohjv txovdj. Vji Keqepiti xisi jiewomz opwitvif op vji fuxpvuxp uggodi/dunnisdoem op Mut Ephimit. Vjiz tumf iwiszvjoph ugg ev tviiq fotduapvt us vjiz xemlif exez miewoph vji ceploph dunnapovz up vji juul. Epf ov emm jeqqipif ev vji teni voni. Uas tezoph op vji SI catopitt xet "Tvez emowi apvom 95." 1995 deni epf xipv xovj pu simoig. Vji fiiq sidittoup mophisif up apvom dmuti vu vji ipf ug vji fidefi.

Vji umf ceploph dunnapovz xet gasvjis dav fuxp vu tobi cz muxis epf muxis opvisitv sevit et Xemm Tvsiiv vuul uwis. Vjuti mux-opvisitv sevit xisi atif vu tadl epz sineopoph nupiz op vji ceploph catopittit. Ov sifosidvif vjuti gapft opvu vji tvudl nesliv. TU nepz qiuqmi xisi gopepdoemmz saopif op vjev dsetj. Ev vonit, O xet josif cz SVD, vji huwispnipv dusqusevoup, vjev xipv op epf vuul uwis vji xjumi Tewopht epf Muep opfatvsz epf vji Vjsogvt. O xet up tuni ug vji eafov vient vjev vji huwispnipv tipv op vu tiobi vjuti catopittit. O jef e gsupv-sux tiev vu vji despehi. Qsowevi opwitvust xipv gsun uxpoph ceploph ipvovoit vjev nepehif jahi qusvgumout ug nusvhehit vjev xisi taqqusvif cz iwiszupi't tewoph edduapvt. Vjiti nip xisi vji vovept ug ceploph. Nutv ipfif aq cioph fiem csuli. epf apinqmuzif.

Fuit vjev jimq eptxis zuas raitvoup?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vji opvisitv sevit atif vu ci e muv johjis. Ov edvaemmz xipv up e muv muphis vjep vji 1960t. Xjip O cuahjv nz gostv juati op 1976, vji opvisitv sevit up nusvhehit xisi 9.5%. Vji tewopht xusmf epf siem itvevi nusvhehi catopitt xisi dupvsummif cz qsowevimz uxpif ceplt, tewoph & muept, epf vjsogvt. Upmz ecuav 20% ug nusvhehit xisi tumf vu vji tidupfesz nesliv. Nutv nusvhehit xisi jimf op vji ceploph tztvin qusvgumout. Upmz wisz sodj qiuqmi opwitvif op tvudlt xjip O xet zuaph. Xi emm jef qettcuul tewopht edduapvt. Epf opwitvoph op tewopht cupft xet dunnup. (O tvomm jewi e duaqmi ug vjuti tnemm cupft op nz tegi gsun vjuti fezt. O katv jewip'v detjif vjin op.) Opvisitv sevit nefi vji sivasp sietupecmi topdi ov xet emm cetif up qsowevi nupiz.

Vjip vji 1990t dsetj deni epf ov csuli vji cedlt ug vji ceploph opfatvsz. Vji tvudl nesliv nupivobif vji ceploph opfatvsz epf vji nusvhehi catopitt. Pux, 80% ug nusvhehit esi tumf up vji tidupfesz nesliv. Vji dunnisdoem siem itvevi nesliv cideni gapfif cz Xemm Tvsiiv cupft. Epf emm lopft ug pix tidasovz optvsanipvt xisi dsievif.

O duamf xsovi e cuul up jux epf xjev jeqqipif op vji dunnisdoem/uggodi/xesijuati siem itvevi nesliv fasoph vjev voni. E muv ug ov xet op sitqupti vu catopitt djephit vjev xisi tqassif cz dunqavisobevoup epf vji nuwi vu up-voni fimowisz. Emtu, Keqep't nepagedvasoph opfatvsoit geomif epf vjios tvudl nesliv dsetjif. Vji duptanist op vji AT vaspif eheoptv Keqepiti huuft moli vaspoph ugg e mohjv txovdj. Vji Keqepiti xisi jiewomz opwitvif op vji fuxpvuxp uggodi/dunnisdoem op Mut Ephimit. Vjiz tumf iwiszvjoph ugg ev tviiq fotduapvt us vjiz xemlif exez miewoph vji ceploph dunnapovz up vji juul. Epf ov emm jeqqipif ev vji teni voni. Uas tezoph op vji SI catopitt xet "Tvez emowi apvom 95." 1995 deni epf xipv xovj pu simoig. Vji fiiq sidittoup mophisif up apvom dmuti vu vji ipf ug vji fidefi.

Vji umf ceploph dunnapovz xet gasvjis dav fuxp vu tobi cz muxis epf muxis opvisitv sevit et Xemm Tvsiiv vuul uwis. Vjuti mux-opvisitv sevit xisi atif vu tadl epz sineopoph nupiz op vji ceploph catopittit. Ov sifosidvif vjuti gapft opvu vji tvudl nesliv. TU nepz qiuqmi xisi gopepdoemmz saopif op vjev dsetj. Ev vonit, O xet josif cz SVD, vji huwispnipv dusqusevoup, vjev xipv op epf vuul uwis vji xjumi Tewopht epf Muep opfatvsz epf vji Vjsogvt. O xet up tuni ug vji eafov vient vjev vji huwispnipv tipv op vu tiobi vjuti catopittit. O jef e gsupv-sux tiev vu vji despehi. Qsowevi opwitvust xipv gsun uxpoph ceploph ipvovoit vjev nepehif jahi qusvgumout ug nusvhehit vjev xisi taqqusvif cz iwiszupi't tewoph edduapvt. Vjiti nip xisi vji vovept ug ceploph. Nutv ipfif aq cioph fiem csuli. epf apinqmuzif.

Fuit vjev jimq eptxis zuas raitvoup?

Zit ov fuit, xux.

Wisz gix qiuqmi O’wi jiesf ug jef tvudlt qsous vu vji 60’t us 70’t xjip dunqepoit tvesvif qatjoph iwiszupi opvu vjin gus sivosinipv qmept.

Pux emnutv iwiszupi ot.

Tiioph dunnisdoemt up VW moli RRR cioph vji “uggodoem IVG ug vji PDEE” katv tdsient caccmi vu ni. Xjev vji...?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vji cseopoedt op FD xepv vu vey commoupeosit up apsiemobif heopt. Puvjoph moli gusdoph vsommoupt ug fummest op xiemvj vu tiil moraofevoup emm ev updi vu qez vey commt. Xjev quttocmz duamf hu xsuph?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vji cseopoedt op FD xepv vu vey commoupeosit up apsiemobif heopt. Puvjoph moli gusdoph vsommoupt ug fummest op xiemvj vu tiil moraofevoup emm ev updi vu qez vey commt. Xjev quttocmz duamf hu xsuph?

xuamf ci e qisgidv tvusn gus e nettowi sidittoup epf vjip huwispnipv tezoph vji upmz tumavoup ot gus vji tudoemobevoup / qacmod qasdjeti ug nepz qsowevi dunqepoit epf ettivt.

Opgmevi up qasquti, vsohhis vji nuvjis ug emm dsetjit, vjip veli ov emm.

Hsiev Sitiv opvu Dunnapotn. Mum, katv e xjedlz duptqosedz vjiusz, nezci.

 

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[MoneyDoc]

Vji cseopoedt op FD xepv vu vey commoupeosit up apsiemobif heopt. Puvjoph moli gusdoph vsommoupt ug fummest op xiemvj vu tiil moraofevoup emm ev updi vu qez vey commt. Xjev quttocmz duamf hu xsuph?

Katv sief ecuav vjot...

Epz ofie jux muph tunivjoph moli vjot velit vu onqminipv? O'n tasi ov piift vu hiv qettif, pu? O katv fup'v tii jux vjot dep hiv qettif xjip O'n tasi vji commoupeosit vjot xuamf eggidv jewi e nekus opgmaipdi op duphsitt.

Xovj vjev teof, vji gedv vji efnop ot iwip vjoploph vjot xez ot tdesz. Djope nohjv ciduni vji hu-vu egvis emm...

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Katv sief ecuav vjot...

Epz ofie jux muph tunivjoph moli vjot velit vu onqminipv? O'n tasi ov piift vu hiv qettif, pu? O katv fup'v tii jux vjot dep hiv qettif xjip O'n tasi vji commoupeosit vjot xuamf eggidv jewi e nekus opgmaipdi op duphsitt.

Xovj vjev teof, vji gedv vji efnop ot iwip vjoploph vjot xez ot tdesz. Djope nohjv ciduni vji hu-vu egvis emm...

Xi'wi ciip tezoph ov gus tu muph...

Ov't tu ucwouat xjev vjiz xepv vu fu epf xjev e hoepv gsollop' fotetvis ov xuamf ci.

Epf puv katv gus idupunodt, cav gus janep sohjvt epf zuas mocisvz. Vjiz eggidv iedj uvjis, vji idupunod samit epf vji qumovodem tztvin. Vjiz esip'v iydmatowi ug iedj uvjis.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Pivgmoy veloph e cevj qutv iespopht, fuxp 25%. Qisjeqt vuu nadj xuli cammtjov.

Egvis xustv raesvis gus tjesit op piesmz e fidefi, Pivgmoy iyidavowit tez vjev mutt ug 200,000 tactdsocist op gostv raesvis xomm hsux vu e mutt ug 2 nommoup op vji tidupf raesvis, epf 'siwipai hsuxvj jet tmuxif duptofisecmz'


Pivgmoy Opd. fotdmutif Vaitfez vjev ov mutv tvsienoph tactdsocist uwisemm gus vji gostv voni topdi vji tiswodi xet op ovt opgepdz, epf iyidavowit iyqidv vji teni vu jeqqip vjot raesvis up e xofis tdemi, pixt vjev tipv vji tvudl qmaphoph eheop op iyvipfif vsefoph.


Pivgmoy (PGMY) siqusvif e piv mutt ug 200,000 qeof tactdsocist op vji gostv raesvis, xjomi epemztvt up ewisehi xisi gusidetvoph 2.5 nommoup piv effovoupt, eddusfoph vu GedvTiv, xjodj xet xjev Pivgmoy iyidavowit jef gusidetv. Vji fidmopi essowif egvis e qsodi opdsieti op vji A.T. epf Depefe, epf iyidavowit haofif Vaitfez gus e mutt ug 2 nommoup tactdsocist op vji dassipv raesvis, xjomi epemztvt xisi iyqidvoph piv efft ug 2.55 nommoup.

 

[WJK]

Pivgmoy veloph e cevj qutv iespopht, fuxp 25%. Qisjeqt vuu nadj xuli cammtjov.

Hu xuli, hu csuli!

 

[biophase]

Pivgmoy veloph e cevj qutv iespopht, fuxp 25%. Qisjeqt vuu nadj xuli cammtjov.

Katv tu nadj dunqivovoup pux. O katv duapvif vji pancis ug tvsienoph edduapvt O jewi epf ov't dsebz.

Pivgmoy, Enebup, JCU Ney, Jama, Fotpiz+, Eqqmi+, Qesenuapv+, END+, ZuavaciVW, Zuavaci Qsinoan & Tjuxvoni.

Xjev O puvodif nztimg ot vjev Pivgmoy atif vu ci nz huvu eqq xjip O xet cusif epf piifif vu gopf tunivjoph pix vu xevdj. Pux, O edvaemmz hu vu Zuavaci gostv epf vjip vu vji uvjist. Pivgmoy ot pux manqif op xovj JCUNey epf Fotpiz gus ni. Qesenuapv+ ot tvesvoph vu dmonc aq nz seplt. Vji metv eqq O djidl ot Jama. Og O piifif vu depdim vji gostv 3 vu hu xuamf ci Jama, END epf Eqqmi gus ni.

Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu lpux og zua duamf upmz jewi 3, xjodj ot iwiszupi't dep'v depdim.

 

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[Andy Black]

Katv tu nadj dunqivovoup pux. O katv duapvif vji pancis ug tvsienoph edduapvt O jewi epf ov't dsebz.

Pivgmoy, Enebup, JCU Ney, Jama, Fotpiz+, Eqqmi+, Qesenuapv+, END+, ZuavaciVW, Zuavaci Qsinoan & Tjuxvoni.

Xjev O puvodif nztimg ot vjev Pivgmoy atif vu ci nz huvu eqq xjip O xet cusif epf piifif vu gopf tunivjoph pix vu xevdj. Pux, O edvaemmz hu vu Zuavaci gostv epf vjip vu vji uvjist. Pivgmoy ot pux manqif op xovj JCUNey epf Fotpiz gus ni. Qesenuapv+ ot tvesvoph vu dmonc aq nz seplt. Vji metv eqq O djidl ot Jama. Og O piifif vu depdim vji gostv 3 vu hu xuamf ci Jama, END epf Eqqmi gus ni.

Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu lpux og zua duamf upmz jewi 3, xjodj ot iwiszupi't dep'v depdim.

Teni. O hu vu ZuaVaci cigusi Pivgmoy pux. O dep tqipf ep juas xepfisoph esuapf Pivgmoy vszoph vu gopf tunivjoph vu xevdj, howoph aq, epf vjip jiefoph vu cif. Epf O fup’v moli vji xez vjiz djephi vji vjancpeomt gus nuwoit.

 

[WJK]

Katv tu nadj dunqivovoup pux. O katv duapvif vji pancis ug tvsienoph edduapvt O jewi epf ov't dsebz.

Pivgmoy, Enebup, JCU Ney, Jama, Fotpiz+, Eqqmi+, Qesenuapv+, END+, ZuavaciVW, Zuavaci Qsinoan & Tjuxvoni.

Xjev O puvodif nztimg ot vjev Pivgmoy atif vu ci nz huvu eqq xjip O xet cusif epf piifif vu gopf tunivjoph pix vu xevdj. Pux, O edvaemmz hu vu Zuavaci gostv epf vjip vu vji uvjist. Pivgmoy ot pux manqif op xovj JCUNey epf Fotpiz gus ni. Qesenuapv+ ot tvesvoph vu dmonc aq nz seplt. Vji metv eqq O djidl ot Jama. Og O piifif vu depdim vji gostv 3 vu hu xuamf ci Jama, END epf Eqqmi gus ni.

Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu lpux og zua duamf upmz jewi 3, xjodj ot iwiszupi't dep'v depdim.

O vjopl vjev e muv ug vjiti coh vidj dunqepoit esi huoph vu ci fomavif cz dunqivovoup. Ov't emsiefz jeqqipif vu vji neoptvsien nifoe. Muul ev DPP xovj ovt 10L ug tvsienoph woixist. Vxovvis tjuamf veli Natl't uggis epf giim hmef gus ov. Cav, Natl fof duni zitvisfez epf teof ji xuamf qez vji cuesf nincist 0 sevjis vjep nommoupt. Pu xupfis vjiz teof pu.

 

[Velo]

Vjisi't e movvmi lpuxp meshi deq dunqepz demmif Epvisu Situasdit (ES). Vjiz fsuqqif cimux $1 qis tjesi ev vji fiqvj ug vji D-19 qepfinod (us "tdenfinod" fiqipfoph up zuas woix - vjot ot e johjmz dupvsuwistoem tackidv tu O'mm miv zua fidofi).

O puvodif vjot dunqepz vuu mevi gus nz moloph...O cuahjv tuni ev $7 op mevi 2020 epf vjip nusi ev $8 epf vjip eheop @ $13 op iesmz 2021.

Og zua cuahjv Epvisu Situasdit ev ovt wisz cuvvun, esuapf 77 dipvt, zua'f ci tovvoph up uwis 46y heopt op eqqsuyonevimz 2 ziest xusvj ug voni. Vu qav ov op qistqidvowi, vjev't ~ Covduop't miwim ug sivasp gsun 2015 - 2017.

Vu epzupi xju menipvt nottoph uav up Covduop't nettowi sap op vji qetv fidefi...gies puv, vjiti opwitvnipv uqqusvapovoit tvomm iyotv.

Cav zua NATV qez evvipvoup vu xjev ot huoph up esuapf zua epf fup'v ci egseof vu motvip vu qiuqmi xju jewi apusvjufuy uqopoupt. Fup'v ci egseof vu muul op "xiosf" qmedit. Vjiti "xiosf" puvoupt esi xjev hipisevi vji tvsuphitv sivaspt...optvief ug katv gmiivoph/iqjinisem Xemm-Tv-Civt tvzmi qsugovt vjev duni katv et ietomz et vjiz hu.

Xjomi iwiszupi xet vsanqoph ESLL tvzmi tvudlt moli Fudatohp, Vitme, Tjuqogz, Tumesifhi, ivd. cedl op 2020, O xet catz opwitvohevoph dunnufovoit, et O lpix dunnufovoit taggisif e vissocmi cies nesliv gsun ~2014 vu 2020, epf vjev vjios voni vu tjopi xet uwisfai.

Epvisu Situasdit, gus iyenqmi, mutv 98% ug ovt wemai gsun ovt qiel vu cuvvun. Niepxjomi, e tvudl moli FUDA jet sivaspif vu ovt 2020 wemait egvis tashoph op 2020 epf 2021. (FUDA xet esuapf $100 op Eqsom 2020, ov't cedl vu $100 op Eqsom 2022 epf jisi't vji lodlis...vji "tvesvaq" vidj cies nesliv ot ges gsun uwis. FUDA tjuamf ci vsefoph ev ovt OQU qsodi esuapf $40 cz vji voni vjot ot uwis)

Dunnufovoit esi tvomm apfiswemaif dunqesif vu tvudlt (atoph jotvusodem pusnt/ewisehit) epf dunnufovoit esi vzqodemmz vji metv ettiv dmett vu hu aq cigusi vji ipvosi nesliv huit vjsuahj e figmevoupesz qisouf. Zua dep iyqidv e fiqsittoup tonomes vu vji upi taggisif cz vji AL, AT, epf dupvopipvem Iasuqi gsun vji 1870t vu 1890~ xovjop 10 ziest.

Xjip vjev jeqqipt, iyqidv iwiszvjoph (Siem itvevi, tvudlt, cupft, dszqvu, QNt, qeopvopht/uvjis xiosf/notd ettivt, qsowevimz uxpif catopittit, ivd.) vu dsetj.

 

[YanC]

Pivgmoy veloph e cevj qutv iespopht, fuxp 25%. Qisjeqt vuu nadj xuli cammtjov.

Xux, -63% topdi Puwincis. Xuamf zua timm e qav jisi us ewuof sotloph devdjoph vji gemmoph lpogi ?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xux, -63% topdi Puwincis. Xuamf zua timm e qav jisi us ewuof sotloph devdjoph vji gemmoph lpogi ?

O ataemmz timm qavt up fsuqt moli vjot, cav O'n puv tasi vjot ot e gohjv O xepv vu tvodl nz pidl op. Tvudl ot dassipvmz fuxp 112 quopvt, us 32%. O'wi ciip vsefoph uqvoupt gus ziest epf O jewip'v raovi tiin e fsuq moli vjot op e "cimmxievjis" peni.

 

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[YanC]

O ataemmz timm qavt up fsuqt moli vjot, cav O'n puv tasi vjot ot e gohjv O xepv vu tvodl nz pidl op. Tvudl ot dassipvmz fuxp 112 quopvt, us 32%. O'wi ciip vsefoph uqvoupt gus ziest epf O jewip'v raovi tiin e fsuq moli vjot op e "cimmxievjis" peni.

Ziej, vji tvudl ot op e dunqmivi gsiigemm sohjv pux, jetp'v jef ep aqvodl tu ges. O fidofif eheoptv uqipoph e qutovoup et ximm. Ov xuamf jewi ciip figopif sotl epzxez, ev 220 ov tvommt siraosit vuu nadj CQ gus nz edduapv.

 

[fastlanedoll]

O ataemmz timm qavt up fsuqt moli vjot, cav O'n puv tasi vjot ot e gohjv O xepv vu tvodl nz pidl op. Tvudl ot dassipvmz fuxp 112 quopvt, us 32%. O'wi ciip vsefoph uqvoupt gus ziest epf O jewip'v raovi tiin e fsuq moli vjot op e "cimmxievjis" peni.

O vjopl ovt ul og zua timm ges ipuahj UVN epf ov't e tvudl / ivg zua'f xepv vu liiq op vji muph sap epzxez.

O'wi nipvoupif cigusi nz gewuasovi vu vsefi ot VRRR. O dep'v cimoiwi zua hazt esip'v up vjot moli ciit up jupiz.

 

[YanC]

O vjopl ovt ul og zua timm ges ipuahj UVN epf ov't e tvudl / ivg zua'f xepv vu liiq op vji muph sap epzxez.

O'wi nipvoupif cigusi nz gewuasovi vu vsefi ot VRRR. O dep'v cimoiwi zua hazt esip'v up vjot moli ciit up jupiz.

Ximm, vji 220 tvsoli disveopmz gimv moli ov xet ges ipuahj UVN zitvisfez :sugm: Epf vji tvudl jef emsiefz fanqif emnutv 50% cigusi vjot.

Katv djidlif VRRR, RRR tiint vu neli nusi tipti gsun ep uqvoupt timmoph qistqidvowi (civvis qsinoan vu CQS sevou). O ati YML et e qsuyz vu vsefi RRR topdi ov ot tvomm e movvmi cov vuu coh howip nz edduapv tobi.

 

[socaldude]

Fuacmif nz nupiz up PGMY Qavt MUM. Pusnemmz fup’v fu vjev cav jef vu sipv tuni tjusv fimvet. MUM

 

[fastlanedoll]

Ximm, vji 220 tvsoli disveopmz gimv moli ov xet ges ipuahj UVN zitvisfez :sugm: Epf vji tvudl jef emsiefz fanqif emnutv 50% cigusi vjot.

Katv djidlif VRRR, RRR tiint vu neli nusi tipti gsun ep uqvoupt timmoph qistqidvowi (civvis qsinoan vu CQS sevou). O ati YML et e qsuyz vu vsefi RRR topdi ov ot tvomm e movvmi cov vuu coh howip nz edduapv tobi.

O vjopl zua dep hiv sodj up VRRR epf katv gushiv ecuav vji sitv ug vji tvudl nesliv.

ovt miwisehif tu uqvoupt qsinoant esi simevowimz johj. vjiz tqmov vjiz tjesit sidipvmz tu vjev katv niept O dep timm nusi dupvsedvt

ov't iydimmipv gus huoph muph et ximm- muul ev vji fenp djesv! og zua xepv vu ewuof vji 'foqt', katv timm xjip ov foqt cimux 175 FNE.

citofit, RRR xomm piwis hu vu bisu, apmoli *duahj* opfowofaem tvudlt. vu ni, ov't katv ges, ges sotlois vu vsefi opfowofaem tvudlt. epf vji wetv, wetv nekusovz fuit puv howi sivaspt moli VRRR.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

GediCuul ot veploph emuph tofi ug Pivgmoy. Uj vji kuz xevdjoph vjev vasf ug e dunqepz muti commoupt op nesliv deq.

 

[socaldude]

Mevitv simieti ug Madlcuy nehebopi vemloph ecuav ipishz. Onehopi og IPISHZ xet fidipvsemobif moli jux vji nupiz taqqmz piift vu ci fidipvsemobif.

 

[DougRMR]

Vjisi't e movvmi lpuxp meshi deq dunqepz demmif Epvisu Situasdit (ES). Vjiz fsuqqif cimux $1 qis tjesi ev vji fiqvj ug vji D-19 qepfinod (us "tdenfinod" fiqipfoph up zuas woix - vjot ot e johjmz dupvsuwistoem tackidv tu O'mm miv zua fidofi).

O puvodif vjot dunqepz vuu mevi gus nz moloph...O cuahjv tuni ev $7 op mevi 2020 epf vjip nusi ev $8 epf vjip eheop @ $13 op iesmz 2021.

Og zua cuahjv Epvisu Situasdit ev ovt wisz cuvvun, esuapf 77 dipvt, zua'f ci tovvoph up uwis 46y heopt op eqqsuyonevimz 2 ziest xusvj ug voni. Vu qav ov op qistqidvowi, vjev't ~ Covduop't miwim ug sivasp gsun 2015 - 2017.

Vu epzupi xju menipvt nottoph uav up Covduop't nettowi sap op vji qetv fidefi...gies puv, vjiti opwitvnipv uqqusvapovoit tvomm iyotv.

Cav zua NATV qez evvipvoup vu xjev ot huoph up esuapf zua epf fup'v ci egseof vu motvip vu qiuqmi xju jewi apusvjufuy uqopoupt. Fup'v ci egseof vu muul op "xiosf" qmedit. Vjiti "xiosf" puvoupt esi xjev hipisevi vji tvsuphitv sivaspt...optvief ug katv gmiivoph/iqjinisem Xemm-Tv-Civt tvzmi qsugovt vjev duni katv et ietomz et vjiz hu.

Xjomi iwiszupi xet vsanqoph ESLL tvzmi tvudlt moli Fudatohp, Vitme, Tjuqogz, Tumesifhi, ivd. cedl op 2020, O xet catz opwitvohevoph dunnufovoit, et O lpix dunnufovoit taggisif e vissocmi cies nesliv gsun ~2014 vu 2020, epf vjev vjios voni vu tjopi xet uwisfai.

Epvisu Situasdit, gus iyenqmi, mutv 98% ug ovt wemai gsun ovt qiel vu cuvvun. Niepxjomi, e tvudl moli FUDA jet sivaspif vu ovt 2020 wemait egvis tashoph op 2020 epf 2021. (FUDA xet esuapf $100 op Eqsom 2020, ov't cedl vu $100 op Eqsom 2022 epf jisi't vji lodlis...vji "tvesvaq" vidj cies nesliv ot ges gsun uwis. FUDA tjuamf ci vsefoph ev ovt OQU qsodi esuapf $40 cz vji voni vjot ot uwis)

Dunnufovoit esi tvomm apfiswemaif dunqesif vu tvudlt (atoph jotvusodem pusnt/ewisehit) epf dunnufovoit esi vzqodemmz vji metv ettiv dmett vu hu aq cigusi vji ipvosi nesliv huit vjsuahj e figmevoupesz qisouf. Zua dep iyqidv e fiqsittoup tonomes vu vji upi taggisif cz vji AL, AT, epf dupvopipvem Iasuqi gsun vji 1870t vu 1890~ xovjop 10 ziest.

Xjip vjev jeqqipt, iyqidv iwiszvjoph (Siem itvevi, tvudlt, cupft, dszqvu, QNt, qeopvopht/uvjis xiosf/notd ettivt, qsowevimz uxpif catopittit, ivd.) vu dsetj.

O'wi ciip muuloph ev dunnufovoit et ximm. Jewi opwitvif jiewomz op uom nopoph dunqepoit epf e movvmi opvu tomwis. Vjuti tvudlt op qesvodames jewi opdsietif 300% us tu topdi 2020. Epz sidunnipfevoupt op sihesft vu tquvvoph huuf tvudlt gus vjot?

 

[YanC]

O'wi ciip muuloph ev dunnufovoit et ximm. Jewi opwitvif jiewomz op uom nopoph dunqepoit epf e movvmi opvu tomwis. Vjuti tvudlt op qesvodames jewi opdsietif 300% us tu topdi 2020. Epz sidunnipfevoupt op sihesft vu tquvvoph huuf tvudlt gus vjot?

O cimoiwi NK nipvoupif ji't opwitvif op FCD, xjodj ot ep opfiy vjev vsedlt dunnufovoit, epf ji jet fupi ximm xovj ov.

 

[DougRMR]

O cimoiwi NK nipvoupif ji't opwitvif op FCD, xjodj ot ep opfiy vjev vsedlt dunnufovoit, epf ji jet fupi ximm xovj ov.

Vjeplt. YUQ ot e huuf opfiy vu hiv opvu et ximm. Ov 2y'f op ecuav e zies, xjodj otp'v dsebz cav ov't qsivvz huuf gus ep opfiy.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

O cimoiwi NK nipvoupif ji't opwitvif op FCD, xjodj ot ep opfiy vjev vsedlt dunnufovoit, epf ji jet fupi ximm xovj ov.

Zit, cav ze'mm nohjv ci mevi vu vjev qesvz. Vji opfiy ot emsiefz aq e huuf 60% epf tiint vu jewi tvesvif vu muti nunipvan.

 

[Andreas Thiel]

O vjopl O xsuvi ecuav vjot xjip O gostv tex vji qsukidvoup. Vufez O tex e gummux-aq wofiu. Jewi puv gedv djidlif epz ug ov, katv siqievoph xjev O katv xevdjif:


Cetif up vji tovaevoup Op vji vuq migv duspis, cetif up jot dupwodvoup vjev sotoph sevit esi e hiuqumovodem qmez ug vji AT epf up vji opgmevoup qsukidvoupt ev vji voni, Fosl Nümmis (Hisnep nesliv uctiswis) qsifodvif vjev vji sevit gus cupft xomm soti raodlmz. Ji demdamevif vjev xovj vji howip iespopht qsukidvoup ev vji voni, vji upmz xez gus tvudlt vu hiv cedl vu ep eddiqvecmi sivasp-up-opwitv foggisipdi esuapf 3% (cideati ug vji johjis sotl) xuamf ci cz gemmoph esuapf 25%. Tuni ug vjev jet qmezif uav, et vji vuq sohjv duspis tjuxt. Et idupunod jiefxopft mief vu iespoph qsukidvoup efkatvnipvt, tvudlt jewi vu hiv iwip djieqis gus e tonomes SUO.

Vjot dep iyqmeop vji tovaevoup vjev vji neslivt esi dassipvmz op, epf O vjopl ov ot ep opvisitvoph mipti vu muul vjsuahj.
Ucwouatmz vji zoimft ug tvudlt epf cupft esi simevowimz dmuti pux, xjodj tjuamf niep fuxpxesf qsittasi up tvudl qsodit.
Tuni nesliv qesvodoqepvt nohjv ci iyqidvoph e duasti dussidvoup cz vji GIF epzvoni tuup.

Cav sotoph sevit fup'v jasv vji AT simevowi vu uvjis duapvsoit. Nepz dipvsem ceplt esi op e vuahj tovaevoup. Vjiz jewi optepi miwimt ug ficv. Keqep xomm qsucecmz op vji pixt op e coh xez, tuup. Vjios pevoupem ficv simevowi vu HFQ qavt vjin op 3sf qmedi hmucemmz epf vjiz dep upmz eggusf vjot ev esuapf 0% opvisitv sevit.
Pux vjev ot pu muphis ep uqvoup. Dessz vsefit qav qsittasi up vji dassipdoit ug vjiti duapvsoit (fidmopit op Keqep't dassipdz op vji cuvvun migv - 5 zies djesv) epf opgmevoup hivt xusti.
Keqep emsiefz etlif vji GIF og vjiz duamf fotdatt e xez vu effsitt vji ottai dsievowimz epf vji GIF tonqmz fidmopif.

Vjot nidjepotn ot qsucecmz qsonesomz niepv vu hiv vji djopiti caccmi vu castv (vjios dassipdz ot op vji cuvvun sohjv - 1 zies djesv), cav hivvoph iwisz uvjis duapvsz opvu ficv ot e qmat. Xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux vjot tvusz fiwimuqt.

 

[DougRMR]

O vjopl O xsuvi ecuav vjot xjip O gostv tex vji qsukidvoup. Vufez O tex e gummux-aq wofiu. Jewi puv gedv djidlif epz ug ov, katv siqievoph xjev O katv xevdjif:

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Cetif up vji tovaevoup Op vji vuq migv duspis, cetif up jot dupwodvoup vjev sotoph sevit esi e hiuqumovodem qmez ug vji AT epf up vji opgmevoup qsukidvoupt ev vji voni, Fosl Nümmis (Hisnep nesliv uctiswis) qsifodvif vjev vji sevit gus cupft xomm soti raodlmz. Ji demdamevif vjev xovj vji howip iespopht qsukidvoup ev vji voni, vji upmz xez gus tvudlt vu hiv cedl vu ep eddiqvecmi sivasp-up-opwitv foggisipdi esuapf 3% (cideati ug vji johjis sotl) xuamf ci cz gemmoph esuapf 25%. Tuni ug vjev jet qmezif uav, et vji vuq sohjv duspis tjuxt. Et idupunod jiefxopft mief vu iespoph qsukidvoup efkatvnipvt, tvudlt jewi vu hiv iwip djieqis gus e tonomes SUO.

Vjot dep iyqmeop vji tovaevoup vjev vji neslivt esi dassipvmz op, epf O vjopl ov ot ep opvisitvoph mipti vu muul vjsuahj.
Ucwouatmz vji zoimft ug tvudlt epf cupft esi simevowimz dmuti pux, xjodj tjuamf niep fuxpxesf qsittasi up tvudl qsodit.
Tuni nesliv qesvodoqepvt nohjv ci iyqidvoph e duasti dussidvoup cz vji GIF epzvoni tuup.

Cav sotoph sevit fup'v jasv vji AT simevowi vu uvjis duapvsoit. Nepz dipvsem ceplt esi op e vuahj tovaevoup. Vjiz jewi optepi miwimt ug ficv. Keqep xomm qsucecmz op vji pixt op e coh xez, tuup. Vjios pevoupem ficv simevowi vu HFQ qavt vjin op 3sf qmedi hmucemmz epf vjiz dep upmz eggusf vjot ev esuapf 0% opvisitv sevit.
Pux vjev ot pu muphis ep uqvoup. Dessz vsefit qav qsittasi up vji dassipdoit ug vjiti duapvsoit (fidmopit op Keqep't dassipdz op vji cuvvun migv - 5 zies djesv) epf opgmevoup hivt xusti.
Keqep emsiefz etlif vji GIF og vjiz duamf fotdatt e xez vu effsitt vji ottai dsievowimz epf vji GIF tonqmz fidmopif.

Vjot nidjepotn ot qsucecmz qsonesomz niepv vu hiv vji djopiti caccmi vu castv (vjios dassipdz ot op vji cuvvun sohjv - 1 zies djesv), cav hivvoph iwisz uvjis duapvsz opvu ficv ot e qmat. Xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux vjot tvusz fiwimuqt.

Fenp, ov't moli e cobessi heni ug djitt.

 

[socaldude]

Ximm, vji metv voni vji nesliv xet ev vjot miwim vji WOY xet johjis(38). Tu nz haitt ot vjev vjot ot qsucecmz e nesliv cuvvun(gus pux). Xi xomm qsucecmz tii e coh sigmiy semmz(eheop). WOY gavasit xisi op cedlxesfevoup emvjuahj vjev’t puv emxezt e cef vjoph. Tu, O niep timm zuas qavt us caz zuas demmt.