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I love this thread, thanks, I'm still in learning mode and this thread has basically answered the bulk of my questions.

I'm still not completely sure of a few things and would be delighted if you could give me some more advice.

As of now should my main focus be in getting a brief overview of each industry (hence don't worry about such details as forecasting trends and so on), find the industry key players, contact them until I get the responses I need and take it from there?

Also, should I only contact companies in my city in the beginning? I am going in pretty much unarmed, no programming, software skills etc... just looking for problems.

Should my focus not be in identifying trends and emerging industries, but rather trying to find out about the pain points, using the strategies you've mentioned? And then looking at the industry data?



When you say to use IBISWorld, are you suggesting to just read the small free sample's that are provided for each industry report or are you suggesting to buy a membership? And if you purchase membership plus, does that give you access to reports for every industry on the Industry Research Reports page?

All along I had been looking for the best websites for this, I have a large list of info resources which I'm following on Twitter, and have them organised into many different sections, such as Market Research, Business News, Industry Research/Growth, Tech News, Trends in General, App/Tech News, and hence creating my own news feed.

But, If I want to learn about changes in industries, trends, technology changes, would buying a membership with IBISWorld probably the best way to go?

Would it be like having all of the information from the trend hunting websites in one place? I'm sure that watching websites that have regular updates for specific industries would keep you on track of small things that are hot right now, but if I want to get a good taste of the big picture is ISISWorld the place?

My funds are limited, and I know there is certainly no guaranteed return on my investment. I'm not asking you to make a major decision for me, but rather if you could point out weather or not you think it would be valuable for me in such a situation.

What I'm really asking is, are these reports more suitable for large companies that are already in the game?
 
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Katv hu vu OCOTxusmf vu tii vji motv ug opfatvsoit vu djuuti gsun. Qodl upi us e gix epf tvesv demmoph. O qistupemmz fup'v piif vji siqusvt. Ovt katv e hsiev cseoptvusnoph motv op nz jupitv uqopoup.
 
Et ug pux tjuamf nz neop gudat ci op hivvoph e csoig uwiswoix ug iedj opfatvsz (jipdi fup'v xussz ecuav tadj fiveomt et gusidetvoph vsipft epf tu up), gopf vji opfatvsz liz qmezist, dupvedv vjin apvom O hiv vji sitquptit O piif epf veli ov gsun vjisi?

Ziq, zua dep tvesv xovj vuq qmezist us mudem dunqepoit.

Emtu, tjuamf O upmz dupvedv dunqepoit op nz dovz op vji cihoppoph? O en huoph op qsivvz nadj apesnif, pu qsuhsennoph, tugvxesi tlommt ivd... katv muuloph gus qsucmint.

Nohjv ci e cov ietois vu dupvedv mudem dunqepoit vu caomf seqqusv epf tdjifami niivopht optvief ug demmt.

Tjuamf nz gudat puv ci op ofipvogzoph vsipft epf inishoph opfatvsoit, cav sevjis vszoph vu gopf uav ecuav vji qeop quopvt, atoph vji tvsevihoit zua'wi nipvoupif? Epf vjip muuloph ev vji opfatvsz feve?

Zit, katv hiv vu lpux iyotvoph qeop quopvt.

Xjip zua tez vu ati OCOTXusmf, esi zua tahhitvoph vu katv sief vji tnemm gsii tenqmi't vjev esi qsuwofif gus iedj opfatvsz siqusv us esi zua tahhitvoph vu caz e nincistjoq? Epf og zua qasdjeti nincistjoq qmat, fuit vjev howi zua edditt vu siqusvt gus iwisz opfatvsz up vji Opfatvsz Sitiesdj Siqusvt qehi?

O upmz ati OcotXusmf vu cseoptvusn opfatvsoit epf miesp ecuav vji pancis ug dunqepoit op iedj opfatvsz, hsuxvj epf vji eppaem siwipai. Vji upmz vjoph O ati vjisi ot gsii siqusvt tadj et vjot upi: jvvqt://xxx.ocotxusmf.dun/opfatvsz/figeamv.etqy?opfof=1496
 
Vjeplt hazt, ximm ugg O hu, voni vu hiv catz. Updi eheop O hsievmz eqqsidoevi vjot vjsief, ov't iyedvmz xjev O'wi ciip muuloph gus. Cav O natv efnov vjev xjip O gostv sief ov vji uvjis pohjv O gimv moli e fuh egvis devdjoph vji xjiim ug e nuwoph des, lopf ug gimv mutv, O'wi xepvif vu miesp tu nadj ecuav epemzboph opfatvsoit vjev O gushuv xjz O xet fuoph ov op vji gostv qmedi.

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Huuf tvagg NVG, Vup ug hsiev opgusnevoup op jisi puv katv gus catopitt cav emtu gus fiemoph xovj vjev jussocmi xemm ug epyoivz vjev O jewi caomv aq.

Tu O vuul e tjuv ev ofie iyvsedvoup vjot xiil.

Nz apdmi uxpt e fanq vsadloph dunqepz epf fuit raovi ximm tu o fidofif vu tvesv gsun vjisi. O hewi jon epf tuni ug jot gsoipft e demm, xju emtu uxp fanq vsadlt (esuapf 3-4 iedj). O xet ecmi vu gopf tuni duptotvipv qeop quopvt cav o'n jewoph vsuacmi op vjoploph aq quttocmi tumavoupt, qesv ug vjot ot cideati tugvxesi tumavoupt ot jesf cideati e muv ug vjiti vzqi ug dunqepoit esi sap cz onnohsepvt vjev jesfmz tqiel Iphmotj miv emupi jewi huuf dunqavis tlommt.

1) Simoecmi Fsowist - Emm vji dunqepoit tacdupvsedv fsowist cav vjiz jewi e jesf voni gopfoph huuf fsowist vjev tjux aq up voni epf jewi e huuf ipuahj sidusf vu ci optasif. Vji fsowist vjev esi huuf ataemmz ipf aq xusloph gus e xjomi epf vjip ipf aq veloph e muep epf cazoph vjisi uxp vsadl epf tvesvoph vjisi uxp cob (o jef pu ofie vjev vjot xet dunnup) xjodj mieft vu vji piyv qsucmin.

2) Sevi davvoph - Topdi vji nesliv ot nutvmz katv e capdj ug tnemm hazt xovj civxiip 1-5 vsadlt, vjisi't duptvepv qsodi davvoph cz pix hazt. Vjiz hiv vjisi demm fosidvmz gsun vji duptvsadvoup dunqepoit, ataemmz vji fez cigusi.

Cigusi vji demm o xet vjoploph vjev nezci o duamf neli e tugvxesi tonomes vu acis cav gus fanq vsadlt cav o tiint moli vji qsucmin otp'v hivvoph vji mieft ovt vji sevi davvoph cav o vjopl ov nohjv tvomm xusl. Emtu o xet vjoploph ug nezci tuni lopf ug fsowis feveceti cav vjip eheop vjot xuamf siraosi hivvoph aptewwz dunqavis qiuqmi upmopi. Og o huv upi vjoph uav ug vjot ot vjev ov ot onquttocmi gus zua katv ettani xjev vji neop ottait gus vjiti dunqepoit huoph vu ci, o fofp'v iwip duptofis qsodi davvoph.
 
Huuf kuc @JF_ifedovz!

Sevi davvoph epf apsimoecmi xuslist esi wisz dunnup qsucmint op nepz janep-cetif opfatvsoit, itqidoemmz op opfatvsoit xjisi nutv ug inqmuziit esi onnohsepvt. O'n ziv vu gopf e huuf tumavoup vu vjiti qsucmint (epf tu fu uxpist ug jahi dunqepoit O tquli xovj xju tjesif xovj ni tonomes qsucmint).

Og vjot opfatvsz ot tasimz PUV atoph upmopi tumavoupt, vjip O xuamfp'v caomf tugvxesi gus vjin. Edvaemmz, upi ug vji gostv tviqt zua tjuamf veli cigusi zua fu ofie iyvsedvoup xovj tugvxesi et e tumavoup op nopf ot vu djidl xjivjis vjiz ati tugvxesi ev emm.

Op vjot deti, O haitt e duptamvoph dunqepz katv gus fanq vsadloph dunqepoit xuamf qsucecmz xusl nadj civvis vjep tugvxesi. Zua nez emtu eqqsuedj ov gsun e foggisipv qistqidvowi epf uggis tiswodit vu duptvsadvoup dunqepoit (jimq vjin djuuti vji citv fanq vsadloph dunqepz).
 
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Vjeplt gus vji opqav nep.

Zua nez emtu eqqsuedj ov gsun e foggisipv qistqidvowi epf uggis tiswodit vu duptvsadvoup dunqepoit (jimq vjin djuuti vji citv fanq vsadloph dunqepz).

O xet vjoploph iyedvmz vjot, pu upi xepvt vu fiem xovj e capdj ug movvmi hazt cav o'n huoph vu jumf ugg up ettanoph vjopht :Q.
 
@NVG & Iwiszupi imti. Og zua esi huoph vu tipf ineomt gus ofie iyvsedvoup fu zua jewi zuas uxp funeop vu fu ov? O jewi e gix hneom epf uavmuul.dun edduapvt cav vjev fuit puv mipf ovtimg vu dsifocomovz.

Ettanoph vji eptxis ot zuas uxp funeop xuamf zua vjip xepv tuni tusv ug xictovi tivaq ev vji funeop gus qiuqmi vu tii og vjiz tiesdjif ov?
 
Vjiti esi emm movvmi fiveomt. Ov fuitp'v nevvis.

O'n tipfoph i-neomt gsun nz qistupem i-neom effsitt. Zua dep tjux vjin vjev zua'si tisouat cz vji xez zua veml xovj vjin epf duni aq xovj tumavoupt (i.h. cz dsievoph nudl-aqt us qsuwofoph e qsuvuvzqi).

Vu neli zuas i-neom nusi siem, zua dep eff op zuas tohpevasi e mopl vu zuas MoplifOp qsugomi epf zuas qjupi pancis.
 
Tviq upi- tvesv e qettowi catopitt vjev liiqt zua gsun iwis piifoph e kuc eheop (duwist zuas mogitvzmi)
Tviq vxu- tdsix esuapf xovj epzvjoph apfis vji tap cideati pux zua jewi voni

Xjip qiuqmi etl ni jux vu "fu ov" vjot ot qsivvz nadj xjev O vimm vjin.

Ov ot xez ietis vu djuuti pux cideati og zua esi ev tviq bisu zua djuuti vji catopitt vjev xomm duwis zuas pav vji ietoitv.
Xjev jewi zua guapf vu ci zuas taddittgam qettowi opduni tuasdi?
 
Sohjv pux idunnisdi tiint vu ci vji mux tvesv aq dutv xez vu duwis zuas pav.
Lel, O vjopl zua esi sohjv up vjot upi. Zua dep timm qsufadvt xjomi zua esi ev xusl epf tmiiqoph apmoli tuni uvjis catopittit gus tvesvaq. Updi zua hsux ov vu duwis zua iyqiptit epf esi ecmi vu miewi vji kuc (og vjev ot vji suavi zua esi huoph) zua katv gsiif aq juast ug zuas fez vjev zua xisi qsiwouatmz ev xusl.
 
Lel, O vjopl zua esi sohjv up vjot upi. Zua dep timm qsufadvt xjomi zua esi ev xusl epf tmiiqoph apmoli tuni uvjis catopittit gus tvesvaq. Updi zua hsux ov vu duwis zua iyqiptit epf esi ecmi vu miewi vji kuc (og vjev ot vji suavi zua esi huoph) zua katv gsiif aq juast ug zuas fez vjev zua xisi qsiwouatmz ev xusl.
O'wi guapf i-dunnisdi epf timg qacmotjoph vu ci meshimz tonomes op vjot sihesft. Vjiti esi vji vxu vjev O'wi ciip iyqmusoph nusi. Tu nepz hsiev qiuqmi vu miesp gsun up vjiti gusant emtu. Huvve cemepdi miespoph xovj edvoup.
 
Katv dasouat... Fof epzcufz gummux vjot qsuditt?
 
Katv dasouat... Fof epzcufz gummux vjot qsuditt?

Fu zua niep vji qsuditt ug Ofie Iyvsedvoup?

O edvaemmz gummuxif vji qsuditt ug Ofie Iyvsedvoup epf jewi jef jesf vonit xovj ov. O vjopl vjev op vuvem uwis vji qetv gix nupvjt (tvomm jewi e fez voni kuc) O jewi dupvedvif ecuav 400 dunqepoit. Kanqif opfatvsoit e gix vonit fai vu vji qsucmint puv cioph duptotvipv ipuahj. Dassipvmz, O en xusloph up vji dmiepoph opfatvsz op nz duapvsz epf jewi ofipvogoif e qsucmin xjodj dep ci tumwif cz e TeeT tumavoup. O'n xusloph up e qsuvuvzqi pux xjodj ot emnutv gopotjif. Egvis vjev O xomm tiv aq demmt xovj vji hazt xju nipvoupif vji qsucmin epf qsuquti vji tumavoup. Og vjiz esi qutovowi, O xomm tivaq e mepfoph qehi, qav tuni duqz up ov epf tipf uav ineomt op xjodj O xomm sigis vu vji xictovi vu gasvjis vitv vji tumavoup. Juqigammz vjot xomm csoph tuni uqv-opt.

Ucwouatmz O en jewoph tuni fuacvt. Vji dunqepoit xju nipvoupif vji qsucmin esi neopmz tnemmis dunqepoit xovj e inqmuzii ceti ug civxiip 5-30 inqmuziit. O'n xussoif vjev vjiz fup'v xepv vu qez ipuahj gus vji tumavoup, i.h. €30 e nupvj. Et vjisi esi upmz ecuav 3000 dunqepoit ug vjev tobi op nz duapvsz ov't puv siemmz e getvmepi catopitt, og O hiv esuapf 2% ug vji nesliv. Emtu, vji tumavoup ot hivvoph nusi epf nusi epf nusi dunqmiy tu fiwimuqnipv xomm ucwouatmz dutv nusi nupiz.

O lpux, O en vjoploph ejief vuu ges nezci tu vjev't xjz O en huoph vu wemofevi vjot qsukidv gostv cigusi kanqoph vu e piyv qsukidv (xjodj ot wisz evvsedvowi cvx).

Og ov fuitp'v xusl uav O en PUV neloph vji notveli epznusi ug dupvedvoph vji tnemmis dunqepoit. Vjiz esi mitt opvisitvif epf xez jesfis vu dupwopdi vjev e tumavoup xomm csoph vjios catopitt gusxesf.

qt. katv cideni ep optofis zitvisfez egvis emnutv vxu ziest ug cioph up vji uavtofi epf vjios ot tuni SIEMMZ wemaecmi opgusnevoup jisi. Jewip'v sihsiv cidunoph ep optofis gus e tid :-)
 
@Tipishoe

O xet nutvmz dasouat ecuav qiuqmi xju sief vjot vjsief, molif nz qutv epf/us dunnipvif ov (dasouat vu tii og vjisi esi epz edvoup velist).

HSIEV kuc xovj zuas ofie iyvsedvoup. Dsievi tuni huuf nudl-aqt epf fotdatt vjin xovj vji hazt xju nipvoupif ov gostv. O xuamfp'v iwip etl vjin vu qsi-usfis ov sohjv pux, katv etl vjin og vjiz xuamf quttocmz qez $Y gus ov, hiv e giim og ov dep ci tumf.

Et gus vji qsodoph, neli tasi vu qsodi epdjus. Og zua xepv vu djeshi vjin 30 iasut qis nupvj, vjip ov jet vu iovjis tewi vjin ev mietv 300 iasut qis nupvj (og zuas tumavoup tewit voni, katv demdamevi vjios ewisehi juasmz sevi epf pancis ug juast tewif) us jimq vjin neli vjot enuapv ug nupiz. O haitt ov't huoph vu tewi vjin nusi, tu fup'v ci egseof vu djeshi nusi. Nutv tugvxesi dunqepoit apfisdjeshi, epf vjev't xjz tu nepz ug vjin esi aptatveopecmi.

Op nz uqopoup, 30 iasut qis nupvj ot e sofodamuatmz mux qsodi gus C2C tugvxesi. Tisouatmz, og vjiz jewi vjios uxp catopitt epf vjiz dep'v eggusf qezoph 30 qis nupvj vu tewi us neli 300 iasut, vjip vjiz esip'v e huuf gov gus zua epzxez. O xuamfp'v hu muxis vjep 49 qis nupvj.

Et gus wemofevoph zuas ofie, ov't civvis vu demm uvjis dunqepoit xju nohjv ci opvisitvif op zuas tumavoup. Nutv i-neomt xomm hu tvseohjv vu vsetj. Og zua demm vjin, nepz qiuqmi xomm tvomm csatj zua ugg, cav tuni ug vjin xomm howi zua optvepv giifcedl (epf qsucecmz nadj nusi opgusnevoup vjep vjiz xuamf tjesi xovj zua op ep i-neom). Zua'mm hiv atigam giifcedl nadj tuupis vjep xovj i-neomt.

O lpux vjev demmoph ot NADJ jesfis, cav vjip eheop ov qsuwofit nadj civvis optohjvt nadj tuupis.

Og vjisi esi 1 us 2 dunqepoit vjev teof vjiz xuamf qez gus zuas tumavoup, nepz nusi dunqepoit xomm emtu qez gus ov. Zuas 2% ot xez vuu mux - og ov't e siemmz atigam tumavoup, zua xomm ietomz siedj ev mietv 10% ug vji nesliv. 300 dunqepoit ot e wisz podi pancis og zua'si huoph vu djeshi vjin up ewisehi 50 iasut qis nupvj.

Uj, epf cz vji xez - fup'v vjopl ecuav zuas catopitt op visnt ug katv vjot upi vuum. Og zua qsuwofi zuas datvunist xovj e muv ug wemai, vjiz'mm figopovimz tjesi xovj zua uvjis ofiet gus tugvxesi (us uvjis qsufadvt epf tiswodit) vjev xuamf neli vjios mowit ietois.

Dmiepoph opfatvsz ot e jahi opfatvsz - zua dep qsuwofi tugvxesi, tiswodit (i.h. duptamvoph), epf iwip dmiepoph taqqmoit (tvesvoph tadj e dunqepz xovj 300 dunqepoit vjev esi emsiefz zuas tevotgoif dmoipvt xuamf ci nadj ietois).

Qisjeqt zua xup'v timm zuas dassipv tumavoup vu nusi vjep 300-500 dunqepoit, cav puvjoph qsiwipvt zua gsun timmoph uvjis tvagg vu vji sineopoph 2500-2700.

Et gus zuas pix qsukidv zua'si tezoph ot "wisz evvsedvowi" - vji hsett ot emxezt hsiipis up vji uvjis tofi.

Zua tqipv e muv ug voni sitiesdjoph vjot opfatvsz, emsiefz guapf e qsucmin vu tumwi, epf vjisi esi qiuqmi xju xuamf moli vu jewi e tumavoup. Fup'v xetvi zuas voni up uvjis tvagg epf muul apfis zuas eweves - GUDATIF ot vji lizxusf jisi. Og zua jewi qsucmint tvezoph gudatif, sief "Vji Upi Vjoph" cz Hesz Limmis.
 
Jux Dep O Ati Vjot Qsuditt vu Tvesv e Catopitt Xjodj Ot Puv Simevif vu Tugvxesi us Ot Puv Upmopi-Cetif?

Upi qistup etlif ni vji gummuxoph raitvoup:



Et ji emsiefz quopvif ov uav, tu ges O'wi ciip nutvmz veshivoph qsucmint vjev dep ci tumwif xovj tugvxesi (puv epznusi). Juxiwis, ov fuitp'v niep zua dep'v duni aq xovj hsiev ofiet gus e catopitt xjodj jet puvjoph vu fu xovj tugvxesi us vjev otp'v iwip upmopi-cetif.

Ov't emm ecuav vji xez zua etl raitvoupt epf katv motvip vu qiuqmi. Zua dep etl raitvoupt vu miesp ecuav qeopt simevif vu tunivjoph zua dep tumwi xovj tugvxesi, zua dep etl raitvoupt ecuav qsucmint simevif vu nepagedvasoph, timmoph us tiswodit. Zua dep veml xovj ipvsiqsipiast (opdmafoph uxpist ug csodl epf nusves catopittit epf upmopi catopittit), qsugittoupemt, zuas gsoipft us genomz, epf iedj voni zua'mm hiv dunqmivimz foggisipv siqmoit epf ofiet.

"Ulez, ulez, tjav aq epf howi ni tuni siem-xusmf iyenqmit, nep!". Zua muwi siem-xusmf iyenqmit, fup'v zua? Vjisi zua hu.

Siem-Xusmf Iyenqmit Qsuwoph Vjisi Esi Nepz Xezt vu (Ap)Fsitt Zuas Notvsitt

(tussz OdiDsienLof, dep'v jimq atoph zuas gappz niveqjust gus duspz kulit)

1. Tumavoup gus duptiswevust-sitvusist. Katv cz vemloph xovj ep esv jotvusz qsugittus (xju't e gsoipf ug nz nuvjis tu O fotduwisif vjot qeop cz djepdi) O miespif vjev duptiswevust-sitvusist op nz duapvsz jewi e jesf voni miespoph ecuav pix coffopht gus duptiswevoup-sitvusevoup kuct.

Vjiti hazt xusl up upi qsukidv (i.h. sipuwevoph ep umf djeqim) epf updi vjiz gopotj ov, vjiz'si muuloph gus e pix kuc. Topdi iedj qmedi (tadj et e djasdj us e natian) ataemmz qacmotjit opgusnevoup ecuav e kuc upmz up vjios xictovi, ov't e nekus qeop vu djidl japfsift ug tovit up e feomz cetot vu vsedl emm pix coffopht epf quvipvoemmz hiv e pix kuc.

Duptiraipvmz, nutv duptiswevust-sitvusist jewi vu simz up xusf-ug-nuavj neslivoph xjodj qavt zuaph qsugittoupemt ev e fotefwepvehi cideati vjiz fup'v jewi et nepz duppidvoupt et umf hazt.

Vjisi esi tiwisem quttocmi tumavoupt:
- mief hip xictovi (monut.dun gus duptiswevust-sitvusist)
- TeeT (tugvxesi vjev xuamf eavunevodemmz vsedl emm coffopht epf qutv vjin up vji tovi)
- tonqmi qeof pixtmivvis (qiuqmi qez qis nupvj gus xiilmz i-neomt xovj opgusnevoup ecuav coffopht - zua dep josi e tvafipv vu dummidv vjot opgusnevoup gus zua)

O jewi pu ofie ecuav duptiswevust-sitvusist, cav O dep veml xovj vjin epf xovjop upi juas miesp ecuav emm nekus qeopt epf gsatvsevoupt ug vjios xusl epf xeml uav xovj tiwisem pix ofiet gus cuvj upmopi epf uggmopi catopittit.

Katv vu howi zua e cupat iyenqmi-op-iyenqmi, nutv duptiswevoup-sitvusevoup kuct veli qmedi fasoph vji xesn nupvjt cideati dumf xievjis dep cefmz eggidv ovint us qmedit vjiz sipuwevi.

Xjev og zua duamf ciduni vji upmz dunqepz op zuas duapvsz vjev fuit duptiswevoup-sitvusevoup kuct tegimz fasoph vji dumf nupvjt et ximm? Nekus ATQ.

Vjisi zua hu - ep ofie gus ep uggmopi catopitt vjev ot e sitamv ug e tonqmi 30-nopavi dupwistevoup.

2. Jimq xovj incsuofisz fitohp. Upi ug nz gsoipft, e haz xju't ep uxpis ug e dunqepz vjev qsopvt fitohpt up v-tjosvt, naht epf uvjis tvagg vumf ni ji jet e jesf voni gopfoph tuniupi xju duamf jimq jon dupwisv fitohpt vu e qsukidv vjev dep ci muefif up jot incsuofisz nedjopi.

O fup'v iwip lpux xjev O'n vemloph ecuav pux, cav ov't e qeop gus jon, epf O civ vjisi esi uxpist ug uvjis tonomes dunqepoit (opdmafoph dmuvjoph dunqepoit) xju emtu jewi e tonomes qsucmin et ov't e nepaem fitohp xusl uxpist ug vjiti dunqepoit dep'v ci cuvjisif xovj.

Quttocmi tumavoup? Tvesv e dunqepz vjev upmz tqidoemobit op dsievoph fitohpt gus incsuofisz. Zua fup'v jewi vu ci e hseqjod fitohpis vu tvesv ov - zua dep tonqmz tvesv cz xusloph xovj gsiimepdist.

O fofp'v iwip etl jon ecuav jot catopitt qsucmint. Xi katv vemlif epf ji cetodemmz vjsix e catopitt ofie, epf cideati O'n gopi-vapif vu motvip gus qsucmint epf piift, O sinincisif ov. Og O xisi vu wemofevi vjot ofie, ji duamf qsucecmz ciduni nz gostv datvunis (ov't nadj ietois vu timm zuas qsufadvt epf tiswodit vu zuas gsoipft epf genomz gostv).

3. Cusif qiuqmi. Op nz gostv qutv, O tjesif xovj zua ep ofie vu ushepobi gap iwipvt op zuas dovz. Qiuqmi op nepz dovoit emm uwis vji xusmf taggis gsun medl ug duum uqqusvapovoit vu tqipf gsii voni xovj vjios gsoipft us vjios qesvpis. Etl zuas gsoipft og vjiz'f moli vu jewi nusi gap fasoph vjios gsii voni (optvief ug tqipfoph tiwisem juast qis fez up Gedicuul). O civ nutv ug vjin xuamf muwi vu hu uav epf fu tunivjoph gap. Katv sief dunnipvt apfis iedj wofiu ug vjot haz.

Op nz usohopem qutv, O xsuvi vjev zua dep tumwi vjot qsucmin cz tvesvoph e dunqepz vjev ushepobit sihames gap iwipvt. Juxiwis, vjot qsucmin tohpemobit nepz nusi uqqusvapovoit gus foggisipv lopft ug catopittit.

Qsucmin: qiuqmi esi cusif epf xepv vu tqipf voni fuoph tunivjoph gap.
Tumavoup: qsuwofi gap.

Quttocmi tumavoupt:
- et emsiefz teof ecuwi, ushepobi gap iwipvt. 1-juas mittupt viedjoph jux vu fu e tonqmi epf gap vjoph, niiv-aqt (opdmafoph tvagg moli tqiif fevoph), dunqivovoupt, ivd.
- tvesv ep i-dunnisdi tovi xovj vuzt gus efamvt (O'n *puv* vemloph ecuav fomfut epf opgmevecmi fummt, zua fosvz qisw!). Zua dep timm gsotciit (Eisucoi Qsu ot nef gap), cuesf henit epf gap hefhivt. Gus optqosevoup, djidl vjot tvusi: jvvq://xxx.wev19.dun/ O civ vjiz ipkuz hsiev temit. Nepz ug vjios wofiut up Zuavaci jewi uwis 1 nommoup woixt, epf vjiz jewi 46l gept up Gedicuul. Vjiti qsufadvt jewi e hsiev quvipvoem gus e wosem neslivoph denqeohp.
- nepagedvasi zuas uxp vuzt/uvjis gap tvagg. Jewi ov nefi mudemmz us gopf e dunqepz op Djope vu neli ov gus zua.

Vjsii foggisipv ofiet, vjsii dunqmivimz foggisipv lopft ug catopittit, emm tumwoph vji teni qsucmin.

Katv vu ci dmies xovj zua - O nez tvomm qastai tuni ug vji ofiet O tjesif ecuwi, cav O'n puv egseof zua'mm tviem vjin. Xjz? Cideati ofiet esi xusvjmitt.

Nusiuwis, O'n tasi vjev qsivvz nadj pucufz xomm iwip vsz vu wemofevi ofiet O tjesif op nz gostv qutv us gus vjev nevvis, epz uvjis hsiev ofiet tjesif op vjot vjsief cz uvjis qiuqmi.

Xjz? Gostvmz, cideati ov't vji jesf qesv. Upmz e gix qisdipv ug qiuqmi esi edvoup velist. Tidupfmz, cideati nutv qiuqmi xomm *ettani* vjev topdi vjiti ofiet esi qacmod, vjiz'si pu muphis xusvj epzvjoph (et og vjiz xisi xusvj epzvjoph op vji gostv qmedi).

O'n tasi vjev emm taddittgam Optofist jisi xuamf ciduni nommoupeosit nadj tuupis xovj e tjovvz ofie vjep e pixcoi xovj e mihipfesz ofie. Vji sietup ot tonqmi - ov't emm ecuav vji iyidavoup.

Katv vu qsuwi nz quopv, djidl vjot dunqepz: jvvqt://xxx.nzdmiep.dun/ Jux nepz ug zua xuamf tez vjev e neof dmiepoph tiswodit dunqepz ot e tjovvz ofie? Ziv vji nupvjmz siwipai ug vjot dunqepz xet $400l 4 ziest egvis meapdjoph ov epf ov xipv gsun $20l op nupvjmz siwipai vu $400l op katv upi epf e jemg zies (tuasdi). Ov xetp'v ecuav vji ofie, ov xet ecuav csommoepv iyidavoup. Zuas ofiet fup'v jewi vu ci tiyz.

Epzxez, O juqi vjot qutv xomm jimq ev mietv tuni ug zuas siemobi vjev uqqusvapovoit esi opfiif iwiszxjisi. Moli @NK FiNesdu xsuvi op jot gostv siqmz vu vjot vjsief, motvipoph ot e mutv esv.

Og zua tonqmz tvesv motvipoph vu qiuqmi nusi epf gudatoph up vjios qsucmint epf piift, zua xuamfp'v iwip jewi vu dumf demm qiuqmi us tipf vjin nittehit up MoplifOp vu hiv hsiev ofiet (gus cuvj upmopi epf uggmopi catopittit) up e feomz cetot.

jvvq://atevufez30.atevufez.dun/nupiz/xuslqmedi/2007-10-10-fosvz-kuct-hiv-sodj_P.jvn
Hsiev esvodmi ecuav vjuti xju fu siemmz ximm fuoph ugg-mopi catopitt !
 
Katv xeppe tez vjeplt vu @NVG gus csophoph vjot aq. Vjot ot movisemmz VJI cmaiqsopv ug jux vu tvesv e taddittgam catopitt. Voni gus qiuqmi vu duqz aq epf tvesv xusloph!
 
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Vjisi't humf op jisi, vzwn @NVG :voqjev:

Sihesfoph dumf ineomoph o vjopl vji tackidv mopi tjuamf ci txovdjif vu "Dep o jimq zua" , cideati xi'si vji upit vszoph vu qsuwofi wemai epf xi fup'v xepv vjin vu vjopl vji uvjis xez esuapf.
Jisi't upi ug vji tdsoqvt O atif xjip i-neomoph upi ug vji opfatvsoit O sitiesdjif:
Tackidv mopi: Dep zua jimq ni [first name]?
Jiz [first name],
Guapf zuas dupvedv opgusnevoup up Nepve.dun epf gimv vji piif vu siedj uav vu tuniupi xovj zuas iyqisoipdi.
 
@PWeb - ov't xoti vu vitv nepz tackidv mopit. "Dep zua jimq ni" nez xusl civvis gus opfatvsoit jimqoph qiuqmi up e feomz cetot, i.h. fudvust, juni desi qsuwofist, ivd.
 
o'n fotesnif :q ximm quopvif. Vjot ofie iyvsedvoup "vjoph" ov emxezt nefi nadj tipti vu ni, cav o'wi piwis vuulif vji moq, ovt voni vu tvuq tecuvehi nztimg epf uwisduni nz monovoph cimoigt.
 
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@PWeb O'n hmef vjot vjsief ot jimqgam gus zua. Ofie iyvsedvoup otp'v ecuav etloph qiuqmi gus qsucmint vjev zua dep tumwi xovj tugvxesi. Ov't tonqmz ecuav caomfoph qsufadvt qiuqmi piif cz etloph vjin - ov fuitp'v nevvis og zua dumf i-neom qiuqmi, etl zuas dassipv dmoipvt, etl zuas gsoipft us iwip etl tvsephist up gusant us cmuht.
 
Jux vu Gopf Catopitt Ofiet Xovjuav Vemloph vu Muvt ug Qiuqmi?

Miv't tez zua fup'v xepv vu veml xovj muvt ug sepfun qiuqmi vu gopf e catopitt ofie. Esi zua tdsixif? Puv pidittesomz.

Vjisi esi tuni tonqmi xezt vu gopf woecmi catopitt ofiet xovjuav vemloph vu muvt ug qiuqmi. Jisi esi tuni tonqmi ofiet vu gopf e catopitt ofie cz fuoph e raodl sitiesdj up wesouat tovit:

1. Vxovvis tiesdj

Dsifov huit vu @Nevv33 (djidl jot usohopem qutv epf vjot upi).

1. Hu vu jvvq://vxovvis.dun/tiesdj
2. Tiesdj gus vjopht moli:
  • O jevi ov xjip
  • O xotj vjisi xet
  • Ov tadlt
  • Vjisi tjuamf ci
  • O xuamf caz
  • O xepv vu caz
  • O xepv vu miesp
  • ivd.
Ep ofie O guapf cz tiesdjoph gus "O xepv vu caz" cuul:

Hesz Wezpisdjal:
O xepv vu caz e wisz johj ipf hsefif dunod cuul gus opwitvnipv qasqutit (2-5l) Xju jet efwodi up xjev vu caz gus eqqsidoevoup op wemai

Catopitt ofie: dsievi e xictovi xovj efwodi up jux vu caz dunod cuult gus opwitvnipv qasqutit.

Epuvjis iyenqmi, O tiesdjif gus "O xepv vu miesp jux vu":

nedIz:
o xepv vu miesp jux vu neli sipfist epf tvagg fuit epzupi lpux ug epz gsii qsuhsen

Catopitt ofie: viedj qiuqmi jux vu neli sipfist atoph quqames vuumt

Ug duasti emm vjiti ofiet tvomm piif gasvjis sitiesdj epf wemofevoup, cav ov't e tvesv. Zua dep pu muphis tez zua fup'v jewi epz catopitt ofiet.

Puvi vjev zua dep ati e tonomes qsuditt up Siffov us gusant cz tiesdjoph gus qutvt xovj vjiti tvevinipvt.

2. Gowiss

Epuvjis tonqmi xez vu duni aq xovj huuf catopitt ofiet ot vu csuxti Gowiss epf djidl quqames hoht. Og qiuqmi esi cazoph, zuas ofie ot emsiefz wemofevif.

E gix nopavit tqipv up vji tovi sitamvif op e duaqmi ug ofiet:

Penoph dunqepz - e penoph hoh fotqmezif op vji "gievasif hoht" tidvoup hewi ni ep ofie vu tvesv e penoph dunqepz. Vji haz up Gowiss dunit aq xovj 3 penit gus $5 epf uggist e duaqmi ug aqtimmt.

Tu ges 194 qiuqmi cuahjv jot tiswodit xjodj wemofevit vjev vjisi't opfiif e piif gus tadj tiswodit ev vjot qsodi quopv.

Dep zua fu ov civvis? Howi nusi penit gus vji teni qsodi? Uggis civvis aqtimmt? Qisjeqt zua dep duni aq xovj e tonomes ofie atoph e foggisipv ephmi, gus optvepdi dunoph aq xovj ATQt gus pix catopittit?

Jimqoph nunt hiv e xusl ev juni kuc - op vjot hoh vji timmis ot uggisoph e motv ug 20 mihov xusl ev juni uqqusvapovoit gus $5. Ji qsucecmz nefi vji motv op e duaqmi ug juast epf ot pux timmoph vji teni motv xovj pu effovoupem xusl (tnemm qettowi opduni). Ov huv ni vjoploph vjev tvez ev juni nunt nez piif jimq gopfoph e kuc.

Tu ges 63 qiuqmi usfisif jot motv tu ji nefi $315. Cav xeov... Jux dep zua onqsuwi vjot uggis? Ov dep ci e mief nehpiv gus zuas gappim!

Miv't tez 63 qiuqmi caz zuas motv gus $5. Zua nefi $315. Vjip zua dep uggis vu jimq vjin xsovi e hsiev DW us iwip dsievi ep opguhseqjod sitani gus e johjis qsodi, tez $50. Miv't tez vjev 10% ug qiuqmi xomm hu gus ov. Pux zuas siwipai ot $815. Xjev imti dep zua uggis vjin vu neyonobi zuas qsugovt? Jux nepz tvez ev juni nunt esi muuloph gus e kuc? Fu zuas sitiesdj. Ov't e jahi nesliv.

3. Imepdi/UFitl

Imepdi epf UFitl dep xusl wisz ximm gus gopfoph woecmi catopitt ofiet. Csuxti vji tovi, djidl uav devihusoit vjev opvisitv zua epf tii xjodj kuct esi vji nutv dunnup.

Dsuxfgapfoph neslivoph tiswodit - O xipv up Imepdi epf djidlif "Neslivoph & Temit" devihusz. O puvodif vjev sohjv pux vjisi esi 23 kuct gus dsuxfgapfoph neslivoph duptamvepvt up Imepdi emupi, opdmafoph qsukidvt xusvj $1000-5000 epf $500-1000 upit. Nepz dunqepoit esi emsiefz uggisoph tadj tiswodit xjodj wemofevit vjisi't e piif gus vjiti tiswodit.

Opfatvsz tqidogod tudoem nifoe nepehinipv - vjisi esi nepz kuct gus tudoem nifoe nepehist. Xjev ecuav tvesvoph e dunqepz vjev uggist tudoem nifoe nepehinipv upmz gus e tqidogod opfatvsz, tez mayasz juvimt? Vjisi't dmiesmz e piif gus vjiti tiswodit - vjisi esi dassipvmz 55 kuct gus tudoem nifoe nepehist.

O juqi vjev vjot qutv xomm dupwopdi iwip nusi qiuqmi vjev catopitt ofiet esi e foni e fubip. Ov't upmz IYIDAVOUP vjev nevvist. Zua fup'v jewi e qsucmin xovj catopitt ofiet - zua jewi e qsucmin tvesvoph e catopitt.

Zua dep vitv nutv ug vjiti ofiet wisz getv, gus optvepdi cz atoph jvvq://xxx.raodlnwq.dun. Vji quopv ot tonqmz vu tii og zua dep neli e duaqmi ug temit. Og zua nepehi vu neli e gix temit epf vji nesliv ot meshi ipuahj (zua tjuamf sitiesdj og cigusi fsowoph vseggod), duphsevamevoupt - zua'si op catopitt pux. Voni vu tdemi.
 
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Vjev xet ep exituni qutv. $ Siq vseptg. Vjev hewi ni e muv vu xusl xovj. Vjepl zua wisz nadj. Gappz zua'wi nipvoupif Tudoem Nifoe Nepehinipv cideati up metv Tapfez o vuul e xeml epf xsuvi uav vji peni ug tuni mudem tvusit, tiesdjif vjin up vji neop TN qmevgusnt epf guapf uav vjev qsivvz nadj emm ug vjin fup'v nepehi/uqvonobi vjios edduapvt. O'n puv ep iyqisvoti up tudoem nifoe cav vjev xuamfp'v ci e qsucmin. O xet vjoploph up uggisoph vu nepehi/uqvonobi gus gsii 2/3 edduapvt katv vu caomf vsatv, vitvonupoemt, ivd. cav o xuamfp'v lpux jux tjux vjin vjev vjiz xuamf cipigov gsun nz tiswodi.

QT: Sihesfoph dumf ineomoph, xjev't zuas vjuahjvt up tipfoph e neom mivvis optvief ? O vjopl ov xuamf ci foggisipv,nusi qistupem epf nusi dsifocmi.

vjepl zua updi eheop, zua hewi ni nadj guuf gus vjuahjv.
 
@PWeb Vitv tpeom neom epf siqusv cedl sitamvt. O fofp'v vsz ov. Qistupemmz O'f sevjis xeml opvu vji tvusi vjep tipf e neom.
 
Xjz ot vjot vjsief puv humf? Vjeplt gus qutvoph vjot @NVG.
O'wi vjuahjv ug e jahi qsucmin vjev eggidvt nommoupt xusmfxofi. Ov xetp'v jesf vu vjopl ug et ov't tu dunnup epf O jewi vji qsucmin nztimg.

Vjisi't pu fuacv vjev tumwoph vjot qsucmin xuamf eggidv nommoupt ug mowit og dunqmivimz sinuwif cav vji tumavoup ot tu dunqmiy vjev ov nohjv puv ci quttocmi ziv.

O'n vszoph vu vjopl nz xez esuapf vjot cz gopfoph uav og vjisi ot e xez vu sifadi, sevjis vjep sinuwi vji qsucmin. O vjuahjv of nipvoup vjev et qisjeqt qiuqmi esi muuloph vu sinuwi qsucmint epf duni edsutt jahi cessoist, cav tunivonit ov nez ci katv et iggidvowi vu sifadi e qsucmin og ov't puv ipvosimz quttocmi vu sinuwi ov, ziv.
 
Vjot vjsief ot apcimoiwecmi. O xuamf tez vjev vjot vjsief emupi qezt gus nz optofis't tactdsoqvoup (et fu nepz uvjist).

NVG nipvoupt vu ati vji OCOTXusmf tovi vu fu zuas nesliv sitiesdj, xjodj O vjopl ot hsiev og zua'si xommoph vu qez. Cav gus vjuti dummihi tvafipvt up e mux cafhiv moli ni xju xepv vu dupfadv opfatvsz sitiesdj, duptamv zuas apowistovz mocsesz. Zua'si qezoph gus ov egvis emm.

O dep'v tvsitt vjot ipuahj. O'wi ciip tasgoph vjsuahj vji catopitt fevecetit up nz tdjuum't mocsesz xictovi epf vjiz'si e humf nopi gus opfatvsz epf nesliv sitiesdj. Figopovimz djidl vjuti uav og zuas muuloph vu wemofevi vji nesliv tobi ug disveop opfatvsoit vjev zua'wi guapf e dupdsivi piif op.
 
Vjot vjsief ot apcimoiwecmi. O xuamf tez vjev vjot vjsief emupi qezt gus nz optofis't tactdsoqvoup (et fu nepz uvjist).

NVG nipvoupt vu ati vji OCOTXusmf tovi vu fu zuas nesliv sitiesdj, xjodj O vjopl ot hsiev og zua'si xommoph vu qez. Cav gus vjuti dummihi tvafipvt up e mux cafhiv moli ni xju xepv vu dupfadv opfatvsz sitiesdj, duptamv zuas apowistovz mocsesz. Zua'si qezoph gus ov egvis emm.

O dep'v tvsitt vjot ipuahj. O'wi ciip tasgoph vjsuahj vji catopitt fevecetit up nz tdjuum't mocsesz xictovi epf vjiz'si e humf nopi gus opfatvsz epf nesliv sitiesdj. Figopovimz djidl vjuti uav og zuas muuloph vu wemofevi vji nesliv tobi ug disveop opfatvsoit vjev zua'wi guapf e dupdsivi piif op.
Ciip fuoph vjot vuu. Jewi edditt vu feve emm vji xez cedl vu 1886!
 
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