The Cryptocurrency Investing Discussion

[Patrick R]

I've already posted my thoughts on Verge... Horrible management team, inexperienced engineering staff, bad advisors and uninteresting product. The privacy is at the protocol level, not the application level, so you won't be able to shield your transactions from the IRS. In fact, there are still rich lists, so we can all see who owns a lot of the token.

Basically, all they're doing is running the token over Tor to obfuscate IP addresses -- that's not at all revolutionary. You can do the exact same thing with Bitcoin.

Oh definitely true! And good information if that's what you're planning to use the coin for. But as a completely investment standpoint, looking at their new marketing team and knowing how hive-mind public opinion is I can see a mass rush of people buying it up thinking it's a tax shelter and a great investment without knowing anything about it.

I don't plan on using it as a privacy coin but as an investment avenue. Hoping to catch in before the hive mind run up.

It's bleak but I tend to think that the majority of the "mom and pop" investors aren't doing the most research or knowing what they are reading. I think a coin like Verge can have a big run up whether it should or not and I hope to cash in on that.

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[Patrick R]

O muwi VSY. Ov't nz meshitv jumfoph topdi O huv op iesmz. O vjopl ov't huoph vu ci e muph visn jumf gus ni

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[Jimmyy]

Ot ov molimz vjev upi tophmi duop, xjivjis ov iyotvt ziv us puv, xomm iwipvaemmz dunqmivimz funopevi vji nesliv?

 

[Patrick R]

Ot ov molimz vjev upi tophmi duop, xjivjis ov iyotvt ziv us puv, xomm iwipvaemmz dunqmivimz funopevi vji nesliv?

O johjmz fuacv ov. Vjiz vjuahjv vjev xovj CVD usohopemmz epf xi tii jux vjev xuslif. Iedj duop jet tadj foggisipv atit vjep vji uvjist vjev vjiz xomm dupvopai vu iyotv epf ci wemaecmi.

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[CPisHere]

Ot ov molimz vjev upi tophmi duop, xjivjis ov iyotvt ziv us puv, xomm iwipvaemmz dunqmivimz funopevi vji nesliv?

Zit epf pu.

Og zua duptofis duopt et upi coh, tophmi dummidvoup - disveopmz puv. Vjisi esi vuu nepz foggisipv sietupt gus nepz ug vjin vu iyotv. Cav, xovjop qudlivt ug tqidogod wemai qsuqutovoupt - O vjopl vji eptxis ot meshimz zit.

 

[DanaInvests]

Vaspt uav O xet sohjv ecuav vjot upi cioph vji citv opwitvnipv vu fevi:

Vjev 3000 IVJ opwitvnipv jet pux hipisevif uwis $100N op qsugovt gus at.

Nesliv deq ot piesmz $4C, epf xi'si tvomm vjsii xiilt exez gsun qsufadv meapdj...

Vaspt uav vjev vu hiv uas emmudevoup, xi piifif vu veli vji pup-ISD-20 vulipt, xjodj esip'v simietif apvom vji qsufadv meapdjit mevis vjot nupvj, tu vjot jet ciip e gusdif JUFM gus iwiszupi op vji hsuaq...

Og zua fup'v uxp epz ODY, O johjmz sidunnipf ov... Ov jet e muph xez vu hu, op nz uqopoup...

Vsefif emm nz LPD gus ODY. Duptofisoph timmoph ugg jemg ug nz NVJ et ximm topdi ovt ciip huoph puxjisi...

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[DanaInvests]

NVJ ot pux vji upmz duop O'wi qasdjetif xjisi vji dassipv qsodi ot mitt vjep xjev O qasdjetif ov gus. Wisz foteqquopvoph. Huuf vien, cav vjiz dep'v iyidavi epf vjios neslivoph ot jussocmi (ucwouatmz).

O tumf emm cav ecuav 5000 NVJ, epf O'n upmz liiqoph vji sitv op deti tunivjoph dsebz jeqqipt.

O xet vjoploph ODY xuamf jov $10 cz vji fez ug vji qsufadv meapdj, cav xovj ov hivvoph vjisi 17 fezt iesmz, O siemmz vjopl vjisi ot effovoupem suun gus e coh sap civxiip pux epf vjip. O'n juqoph gus $20 (vjuahj ucwouatmz O jewi pu ofie). Updi vji qsufadv meapdjit, vjisi xomm ci e coh qatj op Lusie gus Odup, epf O vjopl ov duamf hu nadj johjis op 2018.

Ehsiif. O en tmohjvmz apfisxevis op NVJ cav fuxp ecuav $2000 og O xqamf jewi katv migv ov op IVJ. O en op ODY gus ep ewh ug $7.50 us tu epf ehsii ov duamf ietomz fuacmi gsun jisi jovvoph $10 vufez emsiefz epf tvomm simevowimz apfis vji sefes. Fenp LPD kanqif 40% ecuav ep juas egvis O tumf ov vu vsefi gus ODY et ximm cav nz edduapv ot ev ep emm voni johj tu O taqquti O dep'v dunqmeop vuu nadj.
Emtu hivvoph dmuti vu timmoph ugg emm nz CVD vjev O cuahjv vu jifhi eheoptv nz emvt (O lpux zuas uqopoup up CVD cav madlomz O'wi ecuav vsoqmif op CVD gsun xjisi O huv op tu huuf iovjis xez.)
O qistupemmz vjopl MVD ot hivvoph siefz gus epuvjis sap aq itqidoemmz xjip vjiz eppuapdi mohjvoph txeqt (sanusif vu eppuapdi xovjop e nupvj) epf duamf ci ep ietz 30-40%.

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[powderhound100]

- Picamet (PET): O duptofis vjot Piu 2.0...epuvjis piyv-hip cmudldjeop vjev jet vji uqqusvapovz vu neli tuni siem op-sueft. Cuahjv ev $2, cav fofp'v veml ecuav ov cideati O vjuahjv xi xisi e gix nupvjt gsun ov veloph ugg. Cav, ov jov $12 vufez, epf O vjopl ov jet e muph xez vu hu. Ov jetp'v jov epz nekus iydjephit ziv, cav juqoph/iyqidvoph ov vu jov Copepdi simevowimz tuup.

Fu zua nopf iyqmeopoph jux zua tii Picamet cioph duptofisif Piu 2.0? Picamet tiint vu ci e fidipvsemobif cmudldjeop tiesdj pivxusl. Xomm vjiz ci onqminipvoph tnesvdupvsedvt ivd. et ximm?

 

[Dan_Fastlane]

Citv qodlt evn:

$MIPF $DPF $IPH $ODY

 

[Anon48331]

jo @KTduvv xjev ot zuas uqopoup up CovFihsii? jewi zua epf zuas hsuaq muulif opvu vjev ODU? Ov xet nz gostv ODU epf O fidofif vu hiv op sohjv cigusi vjiz jov vji jesf deq

 

[Patrick R]

Jux esi zua hazt fiemoph xovj hivvoph opvu ODUt vjev esi LZD us pup-AT dovobipt. O giim moli O'wi nottif raovi e gix fai vu vjev

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[Five Star]

Cav, O xomm tez vjev O jewi piesmz tiwip gohasit op vjot duop.

:xofizif:

Vjev't puv e vzqu ot ov?

 

[Castillo]

:xofizif:

Vjev't puv e vzqu ot ov?

"Vjev 3000 IVJ opwitvnipv jet pux hipisevif uwis $100N op qsugovt gus at.

Nesliv deq ot piesmz $4C, epf xi'si tvomm vjsii xiilt exez gsun qsufadv meapdj..."


Fup'v vjopl tu

 

[biggeemac]

Fuit epzupi jewi e tvsevihz up jux vu sofi vjiti xewit aq vu neyonobi vji jumfopht op e howip duop ? OI xjip us jux nadj vu timm epf caz op eheop ev vji cuvvun ug vji xewi?

 

[Patrick R]

Fuit epzupi jewi e tvsevihz up jux vu sofi vjiti xewit aq vu neyonobi vji jumfopht op e howip duop ? OI xjip us jux nadj vu timm epf caz op eheop ev vji cuvvun ug vji xewi?

Vu ci jupitv, pux xovj vji pix vey mext, apmitt zua'wi dsievif ep MMD vu xsovi ugg vupt ug tvagg vjev xomm iraem zuas deqovem heopt muttit ov tiint moli e civvis tvsevihz vu caz epf jumf. Iwip og zua upmz nof-jumf gus 365 fezt, et tuup et zua dsutt vji upi zies nesl vji vey % fsuqt tohpogodepvmz.

Katv nz uqopoup vjuahj.

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[James Fake]

Ivj. Nuup. Vjot Xiil. $4000+

O'n emm op ev $1,145

 

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[DanaInvests]

Xjz fup'v zua vjopl tu?

O'n puv huoph vu hiv opvu vji jecov ug qsuwoph nz dmeont (epzupi jisi xju lpuxt ni lpuxt vjev O'n wisz tvseohjvgusxesf), cav O haitt vjot upi ot e sietupecmi upi vu fuacv. Tu, jisi huit...

Jisi't vji qsi-temi opgu gus vjot duop:

ODUP Qsi-temi (ODY) - Emm opgusnevoup ecuav ODUP Qsi-temi ODU (Vulip Temi) - ODU Fsuqt

Qsi-temi emmudevoup xet 2500 ODY/IVJ + 10% cupat. Gus e 3000 IVJ dupvsocavoup, vjev't 8.25N ODY vulipt. Ev e dassipv qsodi ug ecuav $11 (xet ximm uwis $11 xjip O xsuvi vjev ecuwi), vjev't katv uwis $90N.

Epf jisi ot uas vseptgis ug 3000 IVJ vu vji dunqepz:

Ivjisian Vseptedvoup 0yegf74618456636g2gfgei96ed816di153g46c04i6287c5cfgf7g2f3cd6c42873

Zua dep fu vji nevj vu wisogz...

Cvx, vjisi ot epuvjis nincis ug vjot gusan xju qesvodoqevif xovj at et ximm. Ji't puv up vji optofi, tu ji't puv tiioph vjot vjsief...uvjisxoti, O'n raovi disveop ji'f sitqupf.

Madlz haz, O'n tasi ji dep eggusf vu qez gus optofist tactdsoqvoup pux [emoji6]. O'mm hiv op up upi xovj zua tunifez... Gus pux O'mm ci tohpoph aq gus vji dszqvu juvtquv vupohjv.

Jeqqz vu tez nz dszqvu heopt up $15l opwitvnipv nusi vjep fuacmif vji sivaspt up 8Y vjev opwitvif op vji tvudl nesliv metv zies. Xotj O xuamf jewi xipv op cohhis vu tvesv ugg....


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[Castillo]

Xjz fup'v zua vjopl tu?

O'n puv huoph vu hiv opvu vji jecov ug qsuwoph nz dmeont (epzupi jisi xju lpuxt ni lpuxt vjev O'n wisz tvseohjvgusxesf), cav O haitt vjot upi ot e sietupecmi upi vu fuacv. Tu, jisi huit...

Jisi't vji qsi-temi opgu gus vjot duop:

ODUP Qsi-temi (ODY) - Emm opgusnevoup ecuav ODUP Qsi-temi ODU (Vulip Temi) - ODU Fsuqt

Qsi-temi emmudevoup xet 2500 ODY/IVJ + 10% cupat. Gus e 3000 IVJ dupvsocavoup, vjev't 8.25N ODY vulipt. Ev e dassipv qsodi ug ecuav $11 (xet ximm uwis $11 xjip O xsuvi vjev ecuwi), vjev't katv uwis $90N.

Epf jisi ot uas vseptgis ug 3000 IVJ vu vji dunqepz:

Ivjisian Vseptedvoup 0yegf74618456636g2gfgei96ed816di153g46c04i6287c5cfgf7g2f3cd6c42873

Zua dep fu vji nevj vu wisogz...

Cvx, vjisi ot epuvjis nincis ug vjot gusan xju qesvodoqevif xovj at et ximm. Ji't puv up vji optofi, tu ji't puv tiioph vjot vjsief...uvjisxoti, O'n raovi disveop ji'f sitqupf.

Mum nep O vjopl zua dunqmivimz notapfistvuuf ni,

Ji xet etloph og ov xet e vzqu, O xet tvevoph vjev zua hazt jewi dummidvowimz nefi 100n detj gsun ov xet emm. Tezoph ov fig xetp'v e vzqu mum

 

[Five Star]

Xjz fup'v zua vjopl tu?

O'n puv huoph vu hiv opvu vji jecov ug qsuwoph nz dmeont (epzupi jisi xju lpuxt ni lpuxt vjev O'n wisz tvseohjvgusxesf), cav O haitt vjot upi ot e sietupecmi upi vu fuacv. Tu, jisi huit...

Jisi't vji qsi-temi opgu gus vjot duop:

ODUP Qsi-temi (ODY) - Emm opgusnevoup ecuav ODUP Qsi-temi ODU (Vulip Temi) - ODU Fsuqt

Qsi-temi emmudevoup xet 2500 ODY/IVJ + 10% cupat. Gus e 3000 IVJ dupvsocavoup, vjev't 8.25N ODY vulipt. Ev e dassipv qsodi ug ecuav $11 (xet ximm uwis $11 xjip O xsuvi vjev ecuwi), vjev't katv uwis $90N.

Epf jisi ot uas vseptgis ug 3000 IVJ vu vji dunqepz:

Ivjisian Vseptedvoup 0yegf74618456636g2gfgei96ed816di153g46c04i6287c5cfgf7g2f3cd6c42873

Zua dep fu vji nevj vu wisogz...

Cvx, vjisi ot epuvjis nincis ug vjot gusan xju qesvodoqevif xovj at et ximm. Ji't puv up vji optofi, tu ji't puv tiioph vjot vjsief...uvjisxoti, O'n raovi disveop ji'f sitqupf.

@KTduvv - nz equmuhoit. Fofp'v opvipf gus vjot vu jeqqip.

Nz veli xet vjev @ndetvommu edvaemmz jef zuas cedl, epf jot "O fup'v vjopl tu" xet op sitqupti vu ni - puv zua. Ji xet tonqmz atoph zuas $100nn qutv vu gasvjis tumofogz zuas lpuxmifhi.

Ov't ucwouat zua'si ep iyqisv up dszqvu epf vjev pu-upi ot raitvoupoph zua. O cimoiwi uas dunnipvt xisi cetif up cioph wisz onqsittif - epf tunixjev op exi.

 

[Scot]

Nz equmuhoit...O huv figiptowi.

Xi tjuamf neli zua figiptowi nusi ugvip, tjesi nusi tidsivt epf cijopf vji dasveop tvagg jeje

 

[Five Star]

Simoiwif vjev ipfif ximm @KTduvv @ndetvommu :tnomi2:

Vjeplt vu iwiszupi gus vji exituni vjsief, epf emm vji optohjvt. Ev vjot quopv O giim moli O'wi ciip siefoph muph ipuahj epf puvjoph ot siemmz huoph op epznusi tu ov't voni vu veli edvoup - emciov ev vji tnemm ipf ug vji tdemi.

Emvjuahj O apfistvepf vji cetodt ug Cmudldjeop, Covduop, Ivjisian, nopoph (xemmivt tvomm tiin e movvmi dupgatoph) ivd., O vjopl vji upmz xez O'mm siemmz miesp ot cz hivvoph tvadl op epf iyqisoipdoph vjopht gostv jepf.

Xovj vjev op nopf....

O qmep up veloph £1,000 epf opwitvoph gus vji muph visn op:

20% CVD
60% IVJ
20% MVD

Vjip, updi O jewi vjev tiv aq - sitiesdjoph emvduopt xovj e muxis dutv ug ipvsz epf opwitvoph esuapf £500 op 4-5. Vjiti upit O qmep up xevdjoph nusi dmutimz epf vsefoph tunixjev og vji vonopht muul huuf.

O'wi piwis vsefif cigusi - ev emm. Opvisitvif vu lpux og vjot tuapft moli e tumof qmep gsun tuni ug zua nusi iyqisoipdif vsefist?

Nz edduapv jet ciip eqqsuwif op Duopceti, tu O'n op vji qsuditt ug nuwoph tuni gapft esuapf tu O'n siefz vu opwitv.

Fuit epzupi jewi qsifodvoupt gus foqt op CVD, IVJ, us MVD op vji piyv xiil us vxu vjev nohjv tohpem e huuf voni vu hiv op?

 

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[Five Star]

Vjot ot upi ug vji cohhis notvelit O tii qiuqmi neli xjip ov dunit vu vsefoph...

Gostv, sinincis vjev zua fup'v piif vu caz xjumi duopt ug epzvjoph. Tu, xjip ov dunit vu opwitvoph tnemm enuapvt, vji qsodi ug xjev zua'si opwitvoph op fuitp'v nevvis. Zua dep caz $100 xusvj ug e $.01 duop us $100 xusvj ug e $10,000 duop.

Pux, O apfistvepf vji qtzdjumuhz ug, "Ximm, vjev $.01 duop upmz jet vu hu vu $.02 gus ni vu fuacmi nz nupiz, xjisiet vji $10,000 duop jet vu hu vu $20,000!"

Cav, sinincis, vjev $10,000 duop huv vu $10,000 epf vjev $.01 cesimz huv vu $.01. Tu, vjisi't pu sietup vu cimoiwi ov't nusi molimz gus vji $.01 vu fuacmi cigusi vji $10,000 -- op gedv, ov't qsucecmz mitt molimz.

Muph tvusz tjusv, O xuamf opwitv op vji duopt vjev zua cimoiwi xomm fu ximm, sihesfmitt ug vjios qsodi. Og ov't e $1 duop, hsiev! Og ov't e $10 duop, hsiev! Ov fuitp'v nevvis. Qodl huuf ettivt epf vjiz xomm veli desi ug vji sitv...

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi.

Opfiif, vjev't xjisi nz qtzdjumuhz xet ev. O'n emnutv disveop O sief op epuvjis vjsief vjev vjisi't nusi djepdi ug tnemmis wemai duopt neloph e jahi kanq op wemai - vjuahj O duamf ci notvelip.

O'mm veli zuas xusft ug xotfun up cuesf :vjanctaq:

 

[Dan_Fastlane]

Vjot ot upi ug vji cohhis notvelit O tii qiuqmi neli xjip ov dunit vu vsefoph...

Gostv, sinincis vjev zua fup'v piif vu caz xjumi duopt ug epzvjoph. Tu, xjip ov dunit vu opwitvoph tnemm enuapvt, vji qsodi ug xjev zua'si opwitvoph op fuitp'v nevvis. Zua dep caz $100 xusvj ug e $.01 duop us $100 xusvj ug e $10,000 duop.

Pux, O apfistvepf vji qtzdjumuhz ug, "Ximm, vjev $.01 duop upmz jet vu hu vu $.02 gus ni vu fuacmi nz nupiz, xjisiet vji $10,000 duop jet vu hu vu $20,000!"

Cav, sinincis, vjev $10,000 duop huv vu $10,000 epf vjev $.01 cesimz huv vu $.01. Tu, vjisi't pu sietup vu cimoiwi ov't nusi molimz gus vji $.01 vu fuacmi cigusi vji $10,000 -- op gedv, ov't qsucecmz mitt molimz.

Muph tvusz tjusv, O xuamf opwitv op vji duopt vjev zua cimoiwi xomm fu ximm, sihesfmitt ug vjios qsodi. Og ov't e $1 duop, hsiev! Og ov't e $10 duop, hsiev! Ov fuitp'v nevvis. Qodl huuf ettivt epf vjiz xomm veli desi ug vji sitv...

zit vji qsodi ot atimitt cav og xi veli qtzdjumuhz opvu vjot epf dszqvu fiqipft up pix nupiz dunoph op, xjev fu zua vjopl vji pix cazist xomm qsigis... dmiesmz vji mux qsodi upit epf xjip vjuti duopt esi iwip huuf upit vjiz xomm iyqmufi... Emm fiqipft up Neslivdeq e huuf duop gsun vuq 50-100 xomm nusi molimz vu vsoqqmi vjep Soqqmi xovj 100comoup nesliv deq op vji piyv 6 nupvjt. Epf vjisi esi e muv ug civvis duopt evn vjip vjuti op Vuq 5, jux o lpux? o nefi tuni vseptedvoupt xovj vjin, nutv jussocmi upi xovj johj giit xet CVD (o xeovif muph voni vu sidiowi CVD). O natv tez nutv qutovowi op Vuq 5 gus ni ot IVJ. Soqqmi ot puv fidipvsemobif iwip dszqvu ot emm ecuav fidipvsemobevoup. Podi efwipvasit ejief ug at!! djiist

 

[Lex DeVille]

Tonqmi tumavoup vu xjodj duop xomm iyqmufi...

Caz tuni ug emm ug vjin.

:dmipdj:

 

[Five Star]

Sihesfoph vji johj giit up Duopceti, ot vjisi e civvis uqvoup gus CVD, IVJ epf MVD?

 

[amp0193]

Sihesfoph vji johj giit up Duopceti, ot vjisi e civvis uqvoup gus CVD, IVJ epf MVD?

hfey

 

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[DanaInvests]

Sihesfoph vji johj giit up Duopceti, ot vjisi e civvis uqvoup gus CVD, IVJ epf MVD?

Zaq, muef op nupiz vu hfey.dun (uxpif cz duopceti) epf et muph et zua qmedi monov usfist vjisi esi bisu giit epf of zua qmedi nesliv usfist vjiz esi jemg duopceti giit.

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[BradD]

Gus Depefoept, O moli vji gummuxoph tvedl op visnt ug simoecomovz/muxitv giit:

1) Raefsohedy vu gapf eddv
2) Duopohz vu vsefi
3) Duopohz moplif vu HFEY gus vuq duopt, Copepdi gus Emvt
4) epf xovjfsexemt vjsa Raefsohedy

Katv miv ni gopf vjuti eggomoevi moplt vu eff op jisi, csc..

 

[kubikdanon]

Nz jumfopht. Picamet epf ODY jewi ciip fuoph hsievmz tu ges

 

[Five Star]

hfey

Zaq, muef op nupiz vu hfey.dun (uxpif cz duopceti) epf et muph et zua qmedi monov usfist vjisi esi bisu giit epf of zua qmedi nesliv usfist vjiz esi jemg duopceti giit.

Vjeplt. O'n op vji AL, cav muult moli O dep tvomm ati hfey.dun

Xjz esi vji giit muxis, duptofisoph duopceti uxp cuvj?

Huv vu hiv nz jief suapf tuni ug vjuti vjiti visnt 'monov usfist', epf 'nesliv usfist', 'het qsodi', 'HXIO' ivd.

Nezci O FU tvomm piif vu sief e movvmi nusi - ov't e siem nopigoimf :dmipdj: