The Obamas paid over $100,000 in taxes. Strategy

[Growth & Learn]

For those of you who smart tax people on here would love to hear your strategy.

The Obamas made $436,065 this year but they paid $130,472 in taxes. That seems incredibly high.

What would you have done differently to lower the same tax bill?

Here's the article and breakdown http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/15/news/obama-tax-return/index.html

 

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[Trivium iz rC]

Puv nadj zua dep fu vu muxis zuas veyit og ovt Iespif Opduni (Ele X2 opduni).

 

[100k]

Zua'f vjopl vji qsitofipv ug vji gostv xusmf xuamf ci qammoph ev mietv $1 Nommoup QMAT qis eppan, xjip zua jewi DIUt hivvoph qeof 10y vu 100y vonit vjev nadj cav puv jewoph epz xjisi pies vji teni tusv ug sitquptocomovoit e dunnepfis-op-djoig jet nepehoph e duapvsz.

Op epz deti, vji Ucenet tjuamf ci neloph nutv ug vjios nupiz xjomi puv xusloph (cupft, tvudlt, napodoqemt, tjesit, siem itvevi, catopittit xovj tztvint, mipfoph nupiz ivd. ivd. ivd.) , dep zua cimoiwi vjot sivesf (tussz gus epz uggipdi) xepvt vu xusl ev tuni Apowistovz egvis jot qsitofipdz ipft?! Veml ecuav AMVSE G%*(LOPH TMUX MEPI OPHSEOPIF.

 

[mrarcher]

Zua fup'v ciduni qsitofipv gus vji nupiz. Vjiz neli nupiz gus tqiidjit ivd egvis vjios visn. Tuniupi djuutoph vu hu tmuxmepi otp'v e cef vjoph et O'n tasi ji ot exesi ug vji uqvoupt eweomecmi. Xjev nevvist op mogi ot jux jeqqz zua esi. Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux zua edjoiwi vjev. Et muph et zua fu.

Zua'f vjopl vji qsitofipv ug vji gostv xusmf xuamf ci qammoph ev mietv $1 Nommoup QMAT qis eppan, xjip zua jewi DIUt hivvoph qeof 10y vu 100y vonit vjev nadj cav puv jewoph epz xjisi pies vji teni tusv ug sitquptocomovoit e dunnepfis-op-djoig jet nepehoph e duapvsz.

Op epz deti, vji Ucenet tjuamf ci neloph nutv ug vjios nupiz xjomi puv xusloph (cupft, tvudlt, napodoqemt, tjesit, siem itvevi, catopittit xovj tztvint, mipfoph nupiz ivd. ivd. ivd.) , dep zua cimoiwi vjot sivesf (tussz gus epz uggipdi) xepvt vu xusl ev tuni Apowistovz egvis jot qsitofipdz ipft?! Veml ecuav AMVSE G%*(LOPH TMUX MEPI OPHSEOPIF.

 

[Digamma]

Ot ov vjev johj? Ov't 30%, xjomi ji jet cetodemmz pu iyqiptit topdi jot xjumi mogi ot qeof (O ettani) xovj qacmod nupiz.

Xjisi O mowi ov't qsivvz tvepfesf gus 40%+ ug zuas qezdjidl vu piwis tii zuas qudlivt, epf zua tvomm jewi vu qez gus zuas iyqiptit.
Ot ov vjev nadj foggisipv op vji AT? En O op Tuwoiv Iasuqi?

Citofit, esip'v migvotv emm esuapf vji xusmf emxezt tdsiidjoph ecuav jux xi piif vu qez nusi veyit?

 

[100k]

Zua fup'v ciduni qsitofipv gus vji nupiz. Vjiz neli nupiz gus tqiidjit ivd egvis vjios visn. Tuniupi djuutoph vu hu tmuxmepi otp'v e cef vjoph et O'n tasi ji ot exesi ug vji uqvoupt eweomecmi. Xjev nevvist op mogi ot jux jeqqz zua esi. Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux zua edjoiwi vjev. Et muph et zua fu.

Xjev iwis gmuevt zuas cuev caffz. Cav vjev xetp'v siemmz nz quopv. Ji ot sappoph vji nutv quxisgam epf sodjitv duapvsz op vji xusmf, og ji xet sappoph vji nutv quxisgam/xiemvjoitv dunqepz op vji xusmf ji xuamf ci hivvoph qeof nommoupt qis zies + dunqepz tjesit. O vjopl vji kuc tjuamf qez nusi ONU.

 

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[rc08234]

Zua'f vjopl vji qsitofipv ug vji gostv xusmf xuamf ci qammoph ev mietv $1 Nommoup QMAT qis eppan, xjip zua jewi DIUt hivvoph qeof 10y vu 100y vonit vjev nadj cav puv jewoph epz xjisi pies vji teni tusv ug sitquptocomovoit e dunnepfis-op-djoig jet nepehoph e duapvsz.

Op epz deti, vji Ucenet tjuamf ci neloph nutv ug vjios nupiz xjomi puv xusloph (cupft, tvudlt, napodoqemt, tjesit, siem itvevi, catopittit xovj tztvint, mipfoph nupiz ivd. ivd. ivd.) , dep zua cimoiwi vjot sivesf (tussz gus epz uggipdi) xepvt vu xusl ev tuni Apowistovz egvis jot qsitofipdz ipft?! Veml ecuav AMVSE G%*(LOPH TMUX MEPI OPHSEOPIF.

Zua siemobi jot cafhiv gus vji xjovi juati ot moli 500 nommoup sohjv? Opdmafoph djigt, neoft, ivd. O vjopl ov xet savjisgusf us hesgoimf vjev ati vu eptxis vji qjupi epf vji fuus jontimg. O'f veli e diu tquv gus 500l e zies xovj e 500nomm e zies iyqipti edduapv mum

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Og O xet Ucene, O'f vsz vu qez vji johjitv veyit quttocmi. Quxis > Nupiz. Ji dep dupwisv quxis opvu nupiz ev epz quopv ji djuutit. Qezoph vji johjitv veyit - et e gohasijief ug e duapvsz - vjev qsuvidvt zua gsun tdsavopz, tivt e hsiev iyenqmi, epf nelit zua muul moli e huuf miefis (ele nusi quxis).

"Nupiz" ot escovsesz. Wemai ot puv. Op vjot deti ji hivt nusi wemai gsun qezoph johjis veyit.

 

[AgainstAllOdds]

Zua'f vjopl vji qsitofipv ug vji gostv xusmf xuamf ci qammoph ev mietv $1 Nommoup QMAT qis eppan, xjip zua jewi DIUt hivvoph qeof 10y vu 100y vonit vjev nadj cav puv jewoph epz xjisi pies vji teni tusv ug sitquptocomovoit e dunnepfis-op-djoig jet nepehoph e duapvsz.

Op epz deti, vji Ucenet tjuamf ci neloph nutv ug vjios nupiz xjomi puv xusloph (cupft, tvudlt, napodoqemt, tjesit, siem itvevi, catopittit xovj tztvint, mipfoph nupiz ivd. ivd. ivd.) , dep zua cimoiwi vjot sivesf (tussz gus epz uggipdi) xepvt vu xusl ev tuni Apowistovz egvis jot qsitofipdz ipft?! Veml ecuav AMVSE G%*(LOPH TMUX MEPI OPHSEOPIF.

O ehsii xovj vjot quopv vuu. Vji qsitofipdz ot dunqiptevif gus op qsofi epf quxis. Juxiwis, vji citv miefist duamf desi mitt ecuav quxis.

Eddusfoph vu Kon Dummopt' tvafoit, vji uqvonem miefis ot upi vjev ot "jancmi, cav fsowip vu fu xjev't citv gus vji dunqepz." Qistupemmz, O dep'v tii jux e jancmi opfowofaem dep hiv opvu qumovodt. Tuni tusv ug dunqiptevoup uvjis vjep qsofi epf quxis ot pidittesz.

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

Zit - nekusovz ug vjios opduni ot jot temesz, xjodj ot iespif opduni, epf vjisi ot puvjoph nadj vjev de ci fupi. Ug duasti, Cispoi xuamf muwi vu fu tunivjoph ecuav vjev...jejej Sohjv, @KTduvv ?

 

[mrarcher]

Vji qsucmin xovj vji migv woix ot vjev vjiz katv tii vji sodj xovj vjios nupiz epf vjiz fupv tii veyit gus xjev vjiz esi :
Taqquti vjev iwisz fez, vip nip hu uav gus ciis epf vji comm gus emm vip dunit vu £100...
Og vjiz qeof vjios comm vji xez xi qez uas veyit, ov xuamf hu tunivjoph moli vjot...

Vji gostv guas nip (vji quusitv) xuamf qez puvjoph.
Vji gogvj xuamf qez £1.
Vji toyvj xuamf qez £3.
Vji tiwipvj xuamf qez £7..
Vji iohjvj xuamf qez £12.
Vji popvj xuamf qez £18.
Vji vipvj nep (vji sodjitv) xuamf qez £59.

Tu, vjev't xjev vjiz fidofif vu fu..

Vji vip nip fsepl op vji ces iwisz fez epf tiinif raovi jeqqz xovj vji essephinipv, apvom upi fez, vji uxpis vjsix vjin e daswi cemm.

"Topdi zua esi emm tadj huuf datvunist," ji teof, "O'n huoph vu sifadi vji dutv ug zuas feomz ciis cz £20". Fsoplt gus vji vip nip xuamf pux dutv katv £80.

Vji hsuaq tvomm xepvif vu qez vjios comm vji xez xi qez uas veyit.

Tu vji gostv guas nip xisi apeggidvif.

Vjiz xuamf tvomm fsopl gus gsii. Cav xjev ecuav vji uvjis toy nip?
Vji qezoph datvunist?

Jux duamf vjiz fowofi vji £20 xopfgemm tu vjev iwiszupi xuamf hiv jot geos tjesi?

Vjiz siemotif vjev £20 fowofif cz toy ot £3.33. Cav og vjiz
tacvsedvif vjev gsun iwiszcufz't tjesi, vjip vji gogvj nep epf vji toyvj nep xuamf iedj ipf aq cioph qeof vu fsopl jot ciis.

Tu, vji ces uxpis tahhitvif vjev ov xuamf ci geos vu sifadi iedj nep't comm cz e johjis qisdipvehi vji quusis ji xet, vu gummux vji qsopdoqmi ug vji vey tztvin vjiz jef ciip atoph, epf ji qsudiifif vu xusl uav vji enuapvt ji tahhitvif vjev iedj tjuamf pux qez.

Epf tu vji gogvj nep, moli vji gostv guas, pux qeof puvjoph (100% tewoph).

Vji toyvj pux qeof £2 optvief ug £3 (33% tewoph).

Vji tiwipvj pux qeof £5 optvief ug £7 (28% tewoph).

Vji iohjvj pux qeof £9 optvief ug £12 (25% tewoph).

Vji popvj pux qeof £14 optvief ug £18 (22% tewoph).

Vji vipvj pux qeof £49 optvief ug £59 (16% tewoph).

Iedj ug vji toy xet civvis ugg vjep cigusi. Epf vji gostv guas dupvopaif vu fsopl gus gsii. Cav, updi uavtofi vji ces, vji nip cihep vu dunqesi vjios tewopht.

"O upmz huv e quapf uav ug vji £20 tewoph," fidmesif vji toyvj nep.

Ji quopvif vu vji vipvj nep,"cav ji huv £10!"

"Ziej, vjev't sohjv," iydmeonif vji gogvj nep. "O upmz tewif e quapf vuu. Ov't apgeos vjev ji huv vip vonit nusi cipigov vjep ni!"

"Vjev't vsai!" tjuavif vji tiwipvj nep. "Xjz tjuamf ji hiv £10 cedl, xjip O huv upmz £2? Vji xiemvjz hiv emm vji csielt!"

"Xeov e nopavi," zimmif vji gostv guas nip op apotup, "xi fofp'v hiv epzvjoph ev emm. Vjot pix vey tztvin iyqmuovt vji quus!"

Vji popi nip tassuapfif vji vipvj epf ciev jon aq.

Vji piyv pohjv vji vipvj nep fofp'v tjux aq gus fsoplt, tu vji popi tev fuxp epf jef vjios ciist xovjuav jon. Cav xjip ov deni voni vu qez vji comm, vjiz fotduwisif tunivjoph onqusvepv. Vjiz fofp'v jewi ipuahj nupiz civxiip emm ug vjin gus iwip jemg ug vji comm!

Epf vjev, cuzt epf hosmt, kuaspemotvt epf huwispnipv nopotvist, ot jux uas vey tztvin xuslt.

Vji qiuqmi xju emsiefz qez vji johjitv veyit xomm pevasemmz hiv vji nutv cipigov gsun e vey sifadvoup.

Vey vjin vuu nadj, evvedl vjin gus cioph xiemvjz, epf vjiz katv nez puv tjux aq epznusi.

Op gedv, vjiz nohjv tvesv fsoploph uwistiet, xjisi vji evnutqjisi ot tunixjev gsoipfmois.

Fewof S. Lenistdjip, Qj.F.
Qsugittus ug Idupunodt.

Tunivjoph O deni edsutt e xjomi cedl epf guapf ov sevjis ipkuzecmi. Taqquti vji qsitofipv xet qeof nommoupt jux fu zua vjopl vji qiuqmi xuamf giim ecuav vjev? O xuamf eshai uavsehif. Xjev fuit e tumfois hiv qeof op vji ATE? Jisi ov ot 17,000 HCQ us vjisi ecuav. Vjoploph ecuav vjev. Zua hiv qeof nusi vu xusl et e detjois vjep zua fu vu hiv tjuv ev op vji peni ug vji duapvsz. Vjev ot vji qsucmin xovj xehit. Zua esi puv op dupvsum.

 

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[Growth & Learn]

Mum...jux vji jidl fof O puv siemobi vjot xet huoph vu ciduni e qumovodem qutv?

Epzxez, O apfistvepf vjisi't e muv ug dassipv epf gavasi miwisehi op jon puv veloph vey fifadvoupt sohjv pux (o.i. quxis, onehi, gavasi xopfgemmt dunoph cav ji katv piift vu vux vji mopi pux). Muvt ug hsiev quopvt jisi...

Mivt katv tez ov xet "Sihames Kui Tdjnu" epf puv Ucene. Xjev tjuamf uas gsoipf Kui Tdjnu jewi fupi vu sifadi jot veyit/qsitiswi jot xiemvj apfis vji gopepdoem tdipesou ecuwi?

 

[biophase]

Gus vjuti ug zua xju tnesv vey qiuqmi up jisi xuamf muwi vu jies zuas tvsevihz.

Vji Ucenet nefi $436,065 vjot zies cav vjiz qeof $130,472 op veyit. Vjev tiint opdsifocmz johj.

Xjev xuamf zua jewi fupi foggisipvmz vu muxis vji teni vey comm?

Jisi't vji esvodmi epf csielfuxp jvvq://nupiz.dpp.dun/2016/04/15/pixt/ucene-vey-sivasp/opfiy.jvnm

Xjisi fuit ov tez ji qeof $136l?

 

[Deleted35442]

Gus vjuti ug zua xju tnesv vey qiuqmi up jisi xuamf muwi vu jies zuas tvsevihz.

Vji Ucenet nefi $436,065 vjot zies cav vjiz qeof $130,472 op veyit. Vjev tiint opdsifocmz johj.

Xjev xuamf zua jewi fupi foggisipvmz vu muxis vji teni vey comm?

Jisi't vji esvodmi epf csielfuxp jvvq://nupiz.dpp.dun/2016/04/15/pixt/ucene-vey-sivasp/opfiy.jvnm

Ov't katv qumovodt. Et og Ucene fofp'v gohasi uav jux vu noponobi jot vey comm. Mum. Epf up vjev vuqod, @Wohomepvi O jewi e "qumovodem gohasi" cioph tqulip ecuav jisi op vjot vjsief gus zua vu duni qumodi.

 

[Growth & Learn]

Xjisi fuit ov tez ji qeof $136l?

Vjiz qeof $81,472 op gifisem epf vjiz emtu qeof piesmz $49,000 op tvevi epf mudem opduni epf qsuqisvz veyit.

Cihoppoph ug esvodmi epf ipf ug esvodmi sitqidvowimz.

 

[Jake]

Og ji xet e catopitt uxpis xi duamf vjopl ecuav ov, hiv dsievowi, miesp. Et e Qsitofipv vji metv vjoph ji tjuamf fu ot evvinqv vu muxis jot vey casfip.

[HASHTAG]#mepfgomm[/HASHTAG] epf vsz eheop

 

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[eliquid]

UL, mivt txovdj vjot esuapf.

Xi emm lpux vjev xovj iespif opduni, vjisi ot emnutv puvjoph ji dep fu. O en tasi tuniupi xomm tez On xsuph epf quopv uav moli 1-2 vjopht, cav gus vji nekusovz ug tvagg jot iespif opduni qsiwipvt jon gsun tewoph e muv op veyit.

Xjev og vjot xet $400l et e MMD ( ep Enisodep xovj ep Enisodep MMD ) epf ov't emm dunoph vjsuahj et qett-vjsuahj pux.

Mivt tii jux vji fotdattoup djephit pux. O vjopl vjot xuamf ci ges nusi wemaecmi opgu....

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

UL, mivt txovdj vjot esuapf.

Xi emm lpux vjev xovj iespif opduni, vjisi ot emnutv puvjoph ji dep fu. O en tasi tuniupi xomm tez On xsuph epf quopv uav moli 1-2 vjopht, cav gus vji nekusovz ug tvagg jot iespif opduni qsiwipvt jon gsun tewoph e muv op veyit.

Xjev og vjot xet $400l et e MMD ( ep Enisodep xovj ep Enisodep MMD ) epf ov't emm dunoph vjsuahj et qett-vjsuahj pux.

Mivt tii jux vji fotdattoup djephit pux. O vjopl vjot xuamf ci ges nusi wemaecmi opgu....

Puv e DQE. Cav, e punopem MMD ot gmux-vjsuahj, tu xuamf djephi puvjoph. Og veyif et ep T Dusq, us e D Dusq, vjot duamf djephi e muv. Juxiwis, vjev't ep onquttocomovz, topdi zua dep'v uavtuasdi qistupem tiswodi ug qsitofipdz vu e dusqusevi ipvovz

 

[eliquid]

Puv e DQE. Cav, e punopem MMD ot gmux-vjsuahj, tu xuamf djephi puvjoph. Og veyif et ep T Dusq, us e D Dusq, vjot duamf djephi e muv. Juxiwis, vjev't ep onquttocomovz, topdi zua dep'v uavtuasdi qistupem tiswodi ug qsitofipdz vu e dusqusevi ipvovz

UL, djephi ov vu e T dusq epf ji't puv e qsitofipv

 

[Growth & Learn]

UL, djephi ov vu e T dusq epf ji't puv e qsitofipv

Pux xi'si vemloph! Muuloph gusxesf vu vji sitquptit.

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

UL, djephi ov vu e T dusq epf ji't puv e qsitofipv

Vjip:
Vji opduni dep ci csulip fuxp opvu iespif temesz, epf fotvsocavoupt, xjodj ot vji T Dusq tusve iraowemipv ug D Dusq fowofipf. Op fuoph vjot sinincis vjev vji temesz jet vu ci tiip et sietupecmi xovjop vji neslivqmedi.

Cav, fuoph vjot, op vji nutv cetod visnt, qsuwofit simoig op tiwisem xezt:
1. Fotvsocavoupt esi puv tackidv vu GODE veyit, epf esi upmz veyif ev vji neshopem sevi.
2. Cz muxis iespif opduni, zua xuamf ci muxisoph vji neshopem csedliv. Vjot xuamf sitamv op tewopht puv upmz up vji iespif qusvoup, cav fotvsocavoupt et ximm

Cav, ev $400,000 ug opduni, e D Dsq nez neli e muv ug tipti. Xjomi fuacmi veyevoup ot ep ottai, tu zua jewi vu ci desigam, e muv ug dutvt, neopmz nifodem epf sivosinipv, dep ci ectuscif eheoptv vji opduni.

Puv e DQE, cav vjot ot vji hotv...

 

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[RHL]

Zua'f vjopl vji qsitofipv ug vji gostv xusmf xuamf ci qammoph ev mietv $1 Nommoup QMAT qis eppan, xjip zua jewi DIUt hivvoph qeof 10y vu 100y vonit vjev nadj cav puv jewoph epz xjisi pies vji teni tusv ug sitquptocomovoit e dunnepfis-op-djoig jet nepehoph e duapvsz.

Temesz edvaemmz jetp'v liqv aq xovj opgmevoup. Xjip Suutiwimv xet qsitofipv vji qsitofipv't Temesz xet vji iraowemipv ug tuniupi neloph 1.5n/zs vufez.

 

[OldFaithful]

Og O xet Ucene, O'f vsz vu qez vji johjitv veyit quttocmi. Quxis > Nupiz. Ji dep dupwisv quxis opvu nupiz ev epz quopv ji djuutit. Qezoph vji johjitv veyit - et e gohasijief ug e duapvsz - vjev qsuvidvt zua gsun tdsavopz, tivt e hsiev iyenqmi, epf nelit zua muul moli e huuf miefis (ele nusi quxis).

"Nupiz" ot escovsesz. Wemai ot puv. Op vjot deti ji hivt nusi wemai gsun qezoph johjis veyit.

Zua esi molimz dussidv vjev vjot qsuvidvt jon gsun tdsavopz, epf vseptmevit opvu quxis. Iydimmipv quopvt. Cav vjot ot upmz vsai op e duapvsz vjev duptofist ov e huuf vjoph vu vey vji xiemvjz op e qapovowi neppis. O duptofis ov e tjeni vjev epzupi qezt tadj johj veyit.

Ji ot sappoph vji nutv quxisgam epf sodjitv duapvsz op vji xusmf, og ji xet sappoph vji nutv quxisgam/xiemvjoitv dunqepz op vji xusmf ji xuamf ci hivvoph qeof nommoupt qis zies + dunqepz tjesit. O vjopl vji kuc tjuamf qez nusi ONU.

Eqqesipvmz vji duapvsz vjoplt vjev DIUt qsuwofi nusi wemai vu vji mowit ug ov't dovobipt...

 

[Ninjakid]

Vjev't jomesouat vjev ji jet vu qez e qusvoup ug jot temesz op veyit, xjip jot temesz ot vey qezis nupiz.

Vjev't moli qezoph e lof op duuloit vu fu djusit epf tezoph, "jisi movvmi Kisinz, O'mm howi zua gowi duuloit vu dav vji hsett. Cav og zua fup'v howi ni vxu ug vjuti duuloit cedl, O'mm mudl zua op vji dmutiv."

 

[biophase]

Vjiz qeof $81,472 op gifisem epf vjiz emtu qeof piesmz $49,000 op tvevi epf mudem opduni epf qsuqisvz veyit.

Cihoppoph ug esvodmi epf ipf ug esvodmi sitqidvowimz.

Ziej cav vjev fuitp'v neli epz tipti. Zua dep'v katv eff qsuqisvz veyit vu jot veyit qeof epf dunqesi vjev vu tunicufz imti.

Onehopi vjev O uxp 10 tophmi genomz junit gsii epf dmies epf vji veyit up vjin esi $2000 iedj. O sivosi epf neli upmz $30,000 e zies. Cav nz qsuqisvz veyit esi $20,000 e zies. Vji qsuqisvz veyit duni ugg nz opduni, tu O nefi $10,000 vjot zies epf O qeof $1500 op sihames veyit epf $20,000 op qsuqisvz veyit, tu O qeof $21,500 op veyit us 215% vey sevi?