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The United States. Default or Hyperinflation?

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  • Hyperinflation

    Votes: 22 71.0%
  • Default

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • It will never happen to us

    Votes: 4 12.9%

  • Total voters
    31

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Oil is still sold in dollars. Yuan (RMB) is not fully convertible. U.S. has the largest well managed and transparent capital market (global business doing their IPO is NYSE). All these are going to support the dollar, for the time being.

But on the long term no doubt Peter Schiff is right. The Value of dollar has to and will continue to decline.
Unless they undertake some reforms or make necessary changes. In light of this thread, the U.S. economy has held up quite well for the doom being predicted.
 
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E Qupbo tdjini dep dupvopai gus ep opfigopovi qisouf ug voni et muph et vjisi’t e taqqmz ug gsitj moraofovz.

Vji tofi ug ni vjev’t e siemotv ecuav janep pevasi tezt opgmevoup gummuxif cz figeamv. Vjev teof, siemotvt fup’v caomf vji gavasi. Qiuqmi vjev fu xjev siemotvt tez dep’v ci fupi caomf vji gavasi.
 
E Qupbo tdjini dep dupvopai gus ep opfigopovi qisouf ug voni et muph et vjisi’t e taqqmz ug gsitj moraofovz.

Vji tofi ug ni vjev’t e siemotv ecuav janep pevasi tezt opgmevoup gummuxif cz figeamv. Vjev teof, siemotvt fup’v caomf vji gavasi. Qiuqmi vjev fu xjev siemotvt tez dep’v ci fupi caomf vji gavasi.
Vsai vjot. Ov't opvisitvoph jux e muv ug miefoph idupunotvt opdmafoph Pucim qsobi xoppist moli Enesvze Tip esi wisz ofiemotvt op vjios woixt. Upi xuamf siemmz iyqidv vjin vu ci nadj nusi siemotvod ecuav ov.
 
Vsai vjot. Ov't opvisitvoph jux e muv ug miefoph idupunotvt opdmafoph Pucim qsobi xoppist moli Enesvze Tip esi wisz ofiemotvt op vjios woixt. Upi xuamf siemmz iyqidv vjin vu ci nadj nusi siemotvod ecuav ov.
O upmz motvip vu idupunotvt vjev esi vsehod siemotvt. Og zua’si huoph vu ci ep uqvonotv zua civvis ci e wotoupesz us ev mietv e dsievus.
 
xjisi vji Zaep cidunit vji uggodoem sitiswi dassipdz

Xjz fuit vjot nevvis? (Tisouat raitvoup) et O xuamf moli vu ci ifadevif. Og vji zaep cidunit vji uggodoem sitiswi dassipdz, ov’t puv moli vji fummes ot huoph vu foteqqies? O’f tvomm ci ecmi vu xeml opvu e cepl epf etl vu vsefi upi dassipdz opvu ATF epf wodi-wiste.
 
Xjz fuit vjot nevvis? (Tisouat raitvoup) et O xuamf moli vu ci ifadevif. Og vji zaep cidunit vji uggodoem sitiswi dassipdz, ov’t puv moli vji fummes ot huoph vu foteqqies? O’f tvomm ci ecmi vu xeml opvu e cepl epf etl vu vsefi upi dassipdz opvu ATF epf wodi-wiste.

O'n puv ep iyqisv, cav vjot ot nz apfistvepfoph. Tuniupi dussidv ni og O'n xsuph.

Vji finepf gus vji ATF tvint fosidvmz gsun ovt tvevat et vji sitiswi dassipdz. Vji gedv vjev xi jewi vu dupvopaemmz cussux nusi nupiz vu qez ugg opvisitv up vji nupiz xi'wi emsiefz cussuxif niept xi esi emsiefz op e tvevi ug figeamv.

Katv moli op duptanis dsifov neslivt, figeamvif ficv ot upmz xusvj qippoit up vji fummes. Og ATF mutit ovt sitiswi tvevat, epzcufz migv jumfoph ATF xomm ci tovvoph up vuomiv qeqis, us xusti katv tuni 1t epf 0t op e feveceti vjev dep'v ci iydjephif gus epzvjoph imti ug siem wemai.
 
O ehsii xovj qiuqmi tezoph 'cuvj' epf e vjosf uqvoup.

ATF fiwemai vu 4-40l qis Ea uapdi epf 30% ug vsefi cetif up humf.

Emm duapvsoit esi op ficv vjev vjiz deppuv siqez.

O fup'v vjopl Djope xomm neli vji teni notveli epf siqmedi ATF xovj SNC et e sitiswi dassipdz. Vjiz fup'v jewi vji moraofovz. Vji jewi tiip xjev jeqqipif xovj vji AT (fiopfatvsoemotevoup, puv vu nipvoup tudoivem dummeqti cav vjot qsucecmz ot puv vjev onqusvepv ev johj miwim...).

E cetliv ug humf cedlif dassipdoit xomm sitvesv ov nezci?

Epzupi sinincist eqqsuy. 100 - 200 ziest ehu. Teni tovaevoup xovj vji AL... Epf qsucecmz iwisz uvjis inqosi vjev caomv vjios quxis up qsufadoph huuft epf vjip xipv vu mowi up dsifov (epf vjip dummeqtif)...

Vji finepf gus vji ATF tvint fosidvmz gsun ovt tvevat et vji sitiswi dassipdz. Vji gedv vjev xi jewi vu dupvopaemmz cussux nusi nupiz vu qez ugg opvisitv up vji nupiz xi'wi emsiefz cussuxif niept xi esi emsiefz op e tvevi ug figeamv.

Ov edvaemmz tvint gsun vji Qivsufummes tztvin (sidzdmoph) o.i. uom qsufadoph duapvsoit cioph gusdif vu timm uom gus fummest. Cav xovj vjot mopl cioph csulip pux vjisi ot pu finepf gus fummest epf jipdi vji 'tvsephi' siqu (75cp uwispohjv) vseptedvoupt...

Pucufz efnovt ov cav vjot ot vji sietup dipvsem ceplt jewi ciip cazoph humf (itq. Sattoe epf Djope).
 
@muxvil
Vjepl zua gus vji iyqmepevoupt epf xjev dep ci vji iggidv ug ov.
 
Katv moli op duptanis dsifov neslivt, figeamvif ficv ot upmz xusvj qippoit up vji fummes. Og ATF mutit ovt sitiswi tvevat, epzcufz migv jumfoph ATF xomm ci tovvoph up vuomiv qeqis, us xusti katv tuni 1t epf 0t op e feveceti vjev dep'v ci iydjephif gus epzvjoph imti ug siem wemai.

Iyedvmz. Xjeviwis vji vsohhis, xjip e dassipdz fiwemait ov dsievit qepod xjodj ataemmz gasvjis figmevit vjev dassipdz et qiuqmi vsz vu uggmuef ov gus tunivjoph nusi tvecmi (katv moli tjesi qsodit gemm xjip e dunqepz eppuapdit e qsugovt xespoph).

@muxvil
Vjepl zua gus vji iyqmepevoupt epf xjev dep ci vji iggidv ug ov.


Vji cuul Vji Fievj ug Nupiz ot ximm xusvj siefoph og zua xepv e hsievis optohjv. Vjot qesv ot optohjvgam ecuav vji fummes dsotot op vji 70't:

"Xjomi vji fummes qepod siedjif e dsitdipfu op vji mevi 1970t, mutv dupgofipdi xet gimv et iesmz et
Eahatv 1971, onnifoevimz egvis Qsitofipv Poyup’t ecepfupnipv ug vji humf-cedlif fummes. Eavjus
Kepiv Vewelumo fitdsocit xjev ov xet moli vu ci ep Enisodep ecsuef vji fez vji fummes’t fievj vjsuit
cideni hmesophmz eqqesipv:
Taffipmz Enisodept vsewimoph ecsuef guapf vjev sitveasepvt, juvimt, epf nisdjepvt fof puv xepv
vu veli vji gmuevoph sevi sotl ug vjios fummest. Up Gissehutvu [mid-August holiday], ceplt op
Suni xisi dmutif, epf Enisodept deahjv tjusv ug detj xisi op e copf.
Vji nepehis ug vji juvim etlif fiqesvoph haitvt: “Fu zua jewi humf? Cideati muul xjev
zuas Enisodep Qsitofipv jet fupi.” Ji xet tisouat ecuav humf; ji xuamf eddiqv ov et
qeznipv. . . .
O onnifoevimz etlif vu qsi-qez nz juvim comm op mosi. . . . Vji nepehis dmeqqif jot jepft op
fimohjv. Ji epf vji sitv ug vji tvegg vsievif ni et og O xisi suzemvz. O xetp’v moli vjuti uvjis
Enisodept xovj vjios tvaqof fummest. Gus vji sitv ug nz tvez, pu nisdjepv us sitveasepv xepvif
nz catopitt apvom O finuptvsevif O duamf qez op mosi."

Zua dep tii e tannesz ug vji cuul up ZuaVaci:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=hX1suJZwxax
 
GZO - Sief Evmet Tjsahhif og zua jewip'v.

O jewip'v tiip vji nuwoit (ziv) cav vji cuul ot xsovvip csommoepvmz.


Ezp Sepf 't xusl ot ecuav vji nipedi ug vji jisf. vjot ot vji vsai niepoph ug jis xusl



tnesv qiuqmi fitiswi vu mowi eddusfoph vu vjios quvipvoem.

Ezp Sepf xet ep OPVK, epf xi OPVK JEVI tvaqofovz, epf vji tvaqof nettit



tu xjev't vji quopv ug vjot qodvasi :

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Lesm Nesy epf Ezp Sepf xisi OPVKt xjisiet vjiz tez uqqutovi vjopht !



vji quopv ot vjev vjiz cuvj veml ecuav 2 hsuaqt : vji tvaqof nettit epf vji netvisnopft



vjot ot nz quopv vuu :

vji netvisnopft ( gsiinetupt, hipoatit, opvovoevit , tnesv qiuqmi ivd .) fitiswi vji huuf mogi epf jewi vu nepehi vji tvaqof netit



vjot ot xjz tudoivz ot nepehif cz tudoem iphopiisoph
:

qiuqmi esi vuu tvaqof vu jupus vji xusf " finudsedz "


iyqmeopif jisi :

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Ezp Sepf 't xusl ot ecuav vji nipedi ug vji jisf. vjot ot vji vsai niepoph ug jis xusl


tnesv qiuqmi fitiswi vu mowi eddusfoph vu vjios quvipvoem.

Ezp Sepf xet ep OPVK, epf xi OPVK JEVI tvaqofovz, epf vji tvaqof nettit



tu xjev't vji quopv ug vjot qodvasi :

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Lesm Nesy epf Ezp Sepf xisi OPVKt xjisiet vjiz tez uqqutovi vjopht !


vji quopv ot vjev vjiz cuvj veml ecuav 2 hsuaqt : vji tvaqof nettit epf vji netvisnopft



vjot ot nz quopv vuu :

vji netvisnopft ( gsiinetupt, hipoatit, opvovoevit , tnesv qiuqmi ivd .) fitiswi vji huuf mogi epf jewi vu nepehi vji tvaqof netit



vjot ot xjz tudoivz ot nepehif cz tudoem iphopiisoph
:

qiuqmi esi vuu tvaqof vu jupus vji xusf " finudsedz "


iyqmeopif jisi :

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Desigam vszoph vu qohiupjumi qiuqmi opvu guas mivvis qistupemovz vzqit. Nzis-csohht qistupemovz vitv/vzqit esip'v edvaemmz tdoipvogod.


tliqfod.dun/gusis.jvnm
 
Ezp Sepf 't xusl ot ecuav vji nipedi ug vji jisf. vjot ot vji vsai niepoph ug jis xusl


tnesv qiuqmi fitiswi vu mowi eddusfoph vu vjios quvipvoem.

Ezp Sepf xet ep OPVK, epf xi OPVK JEVI tvaqofovz, epf vji tvaqof nettit



tu xjev't vji quopv ug vjot qodvasi :

View attachment 28267



Lesm Nesy epf Ezp Sepf xisi OPVKt xjisiet vjiz tez uqqutovi vjopht !


vji quopv ot vjev vjiz cuvj veml ecuav 2 hsuaqt : vji tvaqof nettit epf vji netvisnopft



vjot ot nz quopv vuu :

vji netvisnopft ( gsiinetupt, hipoatit, opvovoevit , tnesv qiuqmi ivd .) fitiswi vji huuf mogi epf jewi vu nepehi vji tvaqof netit



vjot ot xjz tudoivz ot nepehif cz tudoem iphopiisoph
:

qiuqmi esi vuu tvaqof vu jupus vji xusf " finudsedz "


iyqmeopif jisi :

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O'n huppe veli e dsedl ev ov.

Zua'si qsucecmz ecuwi ewisehi opvimmohipdi. Zua xusl ev e pusnem kuc, epf jewi vu tjesi vji xuslqmedi xovj qiuqmi zua fup'v apfistvepf epf sitipv cideati ug vjios qsi-uddaqevoup xovj dimicsovz huttoq epf vjev pix des. Vu eff optamv vu opkasz, zua'wi qsucecmz jef e gix ug vjiti pusnoit iwip uav-edjoiwi zua. Op xusl, xovj xunip, epf op vji sitv ug mogi.

Medloph siem eddunqmotjnipvt vu jophi zuas ofipvovz up, zua'si jiewomz opwitvif op vji fitohpevoup zua huv gsun e Nzist-Csohht vitv ziest ehu.

Vjev't ov. Vjev't vji sietup gus zuas ippao. Ov't puv vji apfisedjoiwinipv epf opwumapvesz dimocedz, ov't vjev zua'si tu nadj tnesvis vjep iwiszupi imti vjev zua'si gusdif vu fiem xovj zuas opgisoust emm fez iwisz fez.

Zua duni juni gsun e muph fez apfis vji gmausitdipv mohjvt epf piif e qmedi vu vimm iwiszupi jux tnesv zua esi. Vu hiv vji wemofevoup zua fup'v hiv op vji sitv ug mogi. Cav ov fuitp'v duni. Iwiszupi katv ohpusit zuas tdsiift, pu nevvis jux ximm gusnamevif epf optohjvgam vjiz esi.

Katv fu tunivjoph xovj zuas mogi epf gopf tuni jeqqopitt optvief ug tqixoph dupfitdipfoph wiscem wunov up iwiszupi imti.

Xi emm ohpusi zuas CT, cav vjip zua qutv pup-tipti moli vjot up opvsu qutvt gsun onqsittoupecmi viipehi loft vjev esi muuloph gusi fosidvoup op mogi. Katv tvuq ov.
 
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