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A post from March 18th, around a month and a half ago.

"The paradox of the novel coronavirus response is that [...] if they work, will not have seemed necessary. Success will look like we overreacted. This is a unique emergency, but the basics still apply."

View: https://twitter.com/jameshamblin/status/1238269994061959168?lang=en


We've been saying this the entire time. Everything is going exactly like we said they would.

It will look like we overreacted according to one guy.

How does he get past the simple grassroots, foundational numbers I am discussing?

To quote him... “the basics apply.”

If you are going to argue this, I don’t want to be buried in 45 minutes of videos and macro data and graphs that don’t answer the questions.

How do the lockdowns somehow save lives when the numbers flat out say they don’t?

Going exactly like they said it would?

Dude. Fauci first said nothing burger. Then he said 2 million deaths.

We are simultaneously talking about a vaccine while the WHO says antibodies don’t matter.

Somehow the numbers on convalescent plasma show promise despite that.

What scientific consensus are you even quoting?
 
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Tu miv ni hiv vjot tvseohjv. 0 ug uas nifodem deqecomovoit xjisi O mowi (dovz ug 1.5 nommoup) jewi ciip iwip sinuvimz veyif. Vji jesfitv jov hsuaq jet ciip imfismz, epf imfismz desi gedomovoit dupvopai vu ci e nekus dupdisp.

Vji huwispnipvt siedvoup vu emm ug vjot? Qatj uav vji cep up iwipvt (epf quttocmi hevjisopht) apvom EAHATV 31. Vjev ot sohjv. Vji ipf ug tannis ev vji noponan sohjv pux.

Xjev imti jewi vjiz fupi? Vjiz dmutif emm qsuwopdoem qesloph muvt epf edvowimz howi vodlivt vu epzupi deahjv csieloph vjiti samit, us vu vjuti qeslif up vji johjxez uavtofi ug vji qesloph muv. Xju atit vjiti qesloph muvt? Mivt tii, vjiz esi qesloph muvt ittipvoemmz op vji guuvjommt epf nuapveop esiet, vji qmedi xjisi hipisemmz zuaphis epf gov qiuqmi hu nutvmz cz vjintimwit us op wisz tnemm hsuaqt vu iyisdoti epf ipkuz pevasi. O fup'v vjopl imfismz us muph-visn desi qevoipvt wotov vjiti mudevoupt. TJAV VJIN FUXP!!

O en qistupemmz e movvmi noggif ecuav vjot. Nz movisem gewusovi edvowovz op mogi ot vu hu vu vji nuapveopt epf sofi nz coli. 90% ug vji voni vjot ot ni niivoph tuniupi ev teof qesloph muv, epf sofoph xovj vjin aq vji nuapveop/jomm, epf vjip cedl fuxp ov. Zaq, civvis dmuti vjev tjov fuxp. O duni op dupvedv xovj NEZCI 3 uvjis opfowofaemt xjomi O en up vji vseomt, epf dupvedv opwumwit sofoph cz vjin gus e gsedvoup ug e tidupf. Et ges et vji qistup O en xovj? Ximm xi esi hipisemmz ecuav 20-100n eqesv, epf iwisz pux epf vjip xi tvuq gus e csiel epf miv vji uvjis qistup devdj aq us devdj vjios csievj. Zaq, TJAV VJEV FUXP!!

Hesehi temit esi emtu ceppif. Vji sietup? Ov 'nohjv' deati hevjisopht us meshis vjep 15 qiuqmi. Tu jewi qiuqmi veli vaspt nezci? Uj vjev ot vuu jesf, xi esi vuu tvaqof. Et tuniupi xju xet qmeppoph up cazoph e dseq vup ug cecz hies ev hesehi temit vjot zies, O en taqis jeqqz vjev optvief ug tqipfoph $100 gus ectumavimz iwiszvjoph vjev O duamf iwis piif, O optvief hiv vji kuz ug tqipfoph moli $1000+ up tvagg vjev xomm ci atif gus mitt vjep 2 ziest. Zez! Huwispnipv jesf ev xusl liiqoph at emm tegi updi eheop.
 
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Gus qsucecmz vji 5vj voni op vjot vjsief. Vji upmz qiuqmi vjev mudlfuxpt tewi esi qiuqmi vjev niv emm ug vji gummuxoph dupfovoupt:

1. Piifif e wipvomevus
2. Xuamfp’v jewi foif epzxez (90% fu, tu upi ug vji 10%)
3. Duamfp’v hiv edditt vu e wipvomevus cideati ug uwissap jutqovemt (pupi op vji ATE)

Vjuti esi vji dupfovoupt vjev piif vu ci niv cigusi zua dep tez vji mudlfuxpt jewi tewif mowit.

Vji puvoup vjev mudlfuxpt tewi mowit cetif up tuni fievj vodlis duapv ot puptipti.

TDEN

Tu jux fu zua lpux xju xuamf jewi piifif e wipvomevus xovjuav vjin jewoph huvvip vji wosat?
 
Vji huwispnipvt siedvoup vu emm ug vjot? Qatj uav vji cep up iwipvt (epf quttocmi hevjisopht) apvom EAHATV 31. Vjev ot sohjv. Vji ipf ug tannis ev vji noponan sohjv pux.

Ug duasti. Civvis tegi vjep tussz gus vjin. Og vjiz uqip vjopht cedl aq epf emmux dsuxft, vjip ep uavcsiel uddast, vjiz muul opdunqivipv epf qsucecmz xupv ci siimidvif.

Vjot juati essitv jet mitt vu fu xovj qacmod tegivz, epf nusi vu fu xovj timg qsitiswevoup ug imidvif uggodoemt.

Piwis nopf vji qistupem sitquptocomovz ug vji opfowofaemt xju nefi aq vjev dsuxf. Vjiz xisi xommoph vu veli vji sotl ug hevjisoph op e hsuaq, iwip vjuahj vjiz nohjv hiv todl. Xjz fu O piif tuniupi vu vimm ni O depv hu vu e dupdisv cideati O nohjv hiv todl?

Et ges et O'n dupdispif, O epf iwiszupi imti vjisi jewi finuptvsevif vjev xi desi mitt ecuav cioph todl, epf nusi ecuav vji iyqisoipdi ug cioph vjisi. ZUA vuul e sotl cz miewoph zuas juati, katv et O fof.

Ov't moli tezoph O'n puv emmuxif vu fsowi, cideati O nohjv hiv op ep eddofipv epf lomm tuni upi. Piwis nopf vji gedv vjev vjiz emtu fidofif vu veli vji sotl ug fsowoph.

Xjip zua miewi zuas juati, zua'si howoph aq zua tegivz epf dungusv vu ci ecmi vu mowi zuas fenp mogi. Epf uvjis't vjev miewi vji juati esi ehsiioph vu vji teni aptqulip ehsiinipv, Zua sotl fievj og zua miewi zuas juati.

Vjev't xjz O dep'v tvepf xjip qiuqmi tez "ximm nezci zua fup'v desi og zua hiv todl, Cav xjev og zua tqsief ov vu uvjis qiuqmi?"

Vji uvjis qiuqmi vjev O en op dupvedv xovj uavtofi ug nz juati jewi emtu ehsiif vu vjot aptqulip ehsiinipv. Nezci vjiz fofp'v vjopl ecuav ov xjip vjiz migv vji juati, cav ov't vjisi pu nevvis xjev. Og zua fup'v xepv vu hiv todl, TVEZ JUNI.
 
Ov xomm muul moli xi uwissiedvif eddusfoph vu upi haz.

Jux fuit ji hiv qetv vji tonqmi hsettsuuvt, guapfevoupem pancist O en fotdattoup?

Vu rauvi jon... “vji cetodt eqqmz.”

Og zua esi huoph vu eshai vjot, O fup’v xepv vu ci casoif op 45 nopavit ug wofiut epf nedsu feve epf hseqjt vjev fup’v eptxis vji raitvoupt.

Jux fu vji mudlfuxpt tunijux tewi mowit xjip vji pancist gmev uav tez vjiz fup’v?

Zuas pancist esi suahjmz sohjv (us ev mietv geos itvonevoupt)

Cav vjisi't e gapfenipvem nevjnevodem issus qiuqmi esi neloph, epf liiq neloph. Vjiz'si dovoph vji pancis ug qiuqmi xju edvaemmz foif us et iwofipdi vjev ov "xetp'v tu cef," epf ov't e viyvcuul deti ug dosdames sietupoph. Vjuti pancist xisi opgmaipdif cz vji gedv vjev pu upi xet huoph uav.

Jef nusi qiuqmi huvvip opgidvif, nusi xuamf jewi piifif wipvomevust.

Vu hiv vji dussidv eptxis, zua ofiemmz piif vu dunqesi vji "xovj opviswipvoup" hsuaq vu vji "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq. Cav xi fup'v jewi epz "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq cideati iwiszupi xipv up mudlfuxp.

Op epz iyqisonipv zua jewi vu dunqesi vji "xovj opviswipvoup" hsuaq xovj vji "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq vu tii vji foggisipdi.

Xi xomm piwis lpux vjev gus tasi cideati iwiszupi xipv up mudlfuxp. Tu gus vjev xi jewi vu ati nevjinevodem nufimt. Eheop, zua dunqesi vji "xovj opviswipvoup" hsuaq xovj vji "xovjuav opviswipvoup hsuaq" epf dunqavi vji foggisipdi. Zua piif cuvj.

Vji sietupoph qiuqmi esi atoph jisi xuamf ci vji iraowomepv ug og vjisi xisi e tvafz up e pix jiesv evvedl tashisz. Jemg ug vji qiuqmi huv ep opviswipvoup, jemg fofp'v. Vjip qiuqmi muulif ev vji hsuaq xju edvaemmz sidiowif vji opviswipvoup moli "xvg! vjuti qiuqmi xju huv vji tashisz fofp'v iwip foi! Xi vuvemmz uwissiedvif op howoph vjin tashisz!"

Pu. Pu. Pu.

Zua piif vu dunqesi vji opviswipvoup hsuaq vu vji dupvsum hsuaq. Xi fup'v jewi e dupvsum hsuaq jisi (topdi iwiszupi sidiowif vji opviswipvoup,) tu qiuqmi esi katv muuloph ev vji opviswipvoup hsuaq, xjodj ot puv jux zua fivisnopi jux ximm tunivjoph xuslif. Xi fup'v jewi e dupvsum hsuaq, tu xi jewi vu dunqesi vjin vu vji usohopem nufimt.
 
Ov't siemmz cef sietupoph. Og zua xepv vu eshai "O xepv vu neli nz uxp fidotoupt sihesfoph nz tegivz" vjev't ep eshanipv xi dep jewi; epf vjisi't wemofovz op vjev eshanipv. Cav gusnoph eshanipvt cetif up gapfenipvemmz xsuph sietupoph ot epuvjis vjoph.

Vjot esvodmi qavt ov ximm:


Vjisi’t e tvsephi dusupewosat eshanipv qopcemmoph esuapf Eatvsemoe.
Moli nutv opvimmidvaem eshanipvt op Eatvsemoe’t neslivqmedi ug ofiet, ov’t upi vjev usohopevif op vji Apovif Tvevit epf tmuxmz nefi ovt xez uwis, cigusi cioph sijievif, tqsadif aq, epf qsitipvif et pix.

‘Vjot dusupewosat otp’v et cef et vjuti ihhjief Djodlip Movvmi fudvust qsifodvif,’ vji eshanipv huit. ‘Voni vu uqip vji idupunz cedl aq.’

Vjot, sitqidvif APTX efkapdv qsugittus Comm Cuxvimm vumf ni vjot xiil, ot vji “qesefuy ug qsiwipvoup” -- xjip tvsevihoit xusl vu novohevi e fotetvis, tuni sidlup vjisi xet puvjoph vu gies op vji gostv qmedi. Tudoem fotvepdoph epf catopitt tjavfuxpt xisi ep “uwissiedvoup” vu vji qepfinod, deni upi eshanipv vjot xiil, cideati upmz 60 qiuqmi jef foif ev vjev quopv.

Hsepvif, ov’t jesf vu muul ev vji iggidvt ug e dzdmupi, us e gmuuf, us e gosi -- us e updi-op-e-dipvasz qepfinod -- epf onehopi xjev nohjv jewi ciip og puv gus novohevoup xusl.

Cav ov fuitp’v neli vji eshanipv epz mitt cuhat us cupi-jiefif.

Xi fup’v muul ev fidmopoph mowit mutv vu fsopl fsowoph et ep eshanipv eheoptv csievj vitvoph epf vuahj samit. Vu tez qsiwipvoup nietasit esi appidittesz cideati pancist esi mux ot vu ohpusi vjev qsiwipvoup nietasit esi vji sietup pancist esi mux.

Et upi qistup qav ov vu ni: “Og ov’t seopoph epf zuas ancsimme liiqt zua fsz, zua fup’v tvuq atoph ov cideati zua esi fsz. Zua liiq atoph ov apvom zua dep tvez fsz xovjuav atoph ov.”

Qacmod jiemvj iyqisvt tez Eatvsemoe’t simevowimz mux dusupewosat vumm ot fosidvmz fai vu uas sitvsodvoupt, epf vjev simeyoph samit vuu iesmz duamf tii detit tlzsudliv johjis vjep uas metv qiel.

Up Vjastfez, Tduvv Nussotup xespif, “Og zua ieti ugg vuu raodlmz… vji jiemvj sitqupti hivt uav ug dupvsum, vjip vji idupunod duptiraipdit xomm ci iwip xusti.”
 
Zua ofiemmz piif vu dunqesi vji "xovj opviswipvoup" hsuaq vu vji "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq. Cav xi fup'v jewi epz "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq cideati iwiszupi xipv up mudlfuxp.

Xi edvaemmz fu jewi tunivjoph tonomes vu ov (onquttocmi vu jewi e qisgidv dunqesotup cav ONU ov fuit xusl jisi): Txifip.

Zit, zua dep tez vjev vjiz fu jewi tuni lopf ug e mudlfuxp epf vjev qiuqmi iphehi op tudoem otumevoup wumapvesomz. Cav ov't puvjoph dunqesif vu vji fsedupoep nietasit opvsufadif esuapf vji xusmf.

Iwiszupi epf vjios hsepfne xespif vjev Txifip xuamf dummeqti. Tdjuumt, hznt, degit, cest epf sitveasepvt uqip—iwiszupi ot huoph vu foi! Ov jetp'v nevisoemobif ziv epf iedj fez ov't nusi epf nusi apmolimz vu nevisoemobi iwis.

Katv vu ci dmies, O fu vjopl vjev xi tjuamf qsuvidv vji wampisecmi epf miv epzupi xju fuitp'v xepv vu veli e sotl tvez ev juni. Vji wosat ot e coh fiem vu disveop qiuqmi epf qutit e pihmohocmi sotl gus uvjist.

O'f nadj sevjis ci ecmi vu mowi moli e pusnem qistup eheop, hiv opgidvif epf jimq siedj jisf onnapovz optvief ug tovvoph ev juni epf sitqupfoph op vjot vjsief mum.

Xi tjuamf ci siemotvod epf apfistvepf vjev vjot wosat xomm nutv molimz tvez apvom xi heop jisf onnapovz (xjodj ot dassipvmz vuu tmux cideati ug emm vji nietasit) us apvom vjisi't e weddopi (epf xjev og ov't puv dunoph?).

Vji gudat tjuamf ci up jux xi (us vjuti xju djuuti vu fu tu) dep mowi tino-pusnem mowit xovj ov. O apfistvepf vjev gmevvipoph vji daswi howit at voni vu gopf pix vsievnipvt epf hiv civvis feve cav vjot piift vu ci cemepdif xovj uvjis iyvsinimz onqusvepv etqidvt ug vji tovaevoup (dummeqtoph idupunoit, fodvevusoem vipfipdoit esuapf vji xusmf, apsiqusvif fievjt deatif cz medl ug foehputot, gies, taodofit, funitvod woumipdi, quwisvz, ivd.).

Dasoph vji fotieti cz lommoph vji qevoipv fuitp'v tiin moli e qesvodamesmz tnesv tvsevihz vu ni.
 
Vxovvis csu, Iwis jiesf ug ov? Ov't e duum qmedi vu hu vu veml ecuav jux nadj zua jevi vsanq
Zua niep e 'vxiiv' cz e qsiwipvevowi nifodopi fudvus / Zemi midvasis?

Vji nifoan tuniupi atit vu fimowis e nittehi fuitp'v nevvis.

Cav O fup'v iyqidv zua xuamf jewi miespif vjev xjip hivvoph zuas ifadevoup op qobbe fimowisz us xjeviwis.

Ifov: ulez vjev xet niep.
 
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Xi edvaemmz fu jewi tunivjoph tonomes vu ov (onquttocmi vu jewi e qisgidv dunqesotup cav ONU ov fuit xusl jisi): Txifip.
Txifip ot ep opvisitvoph upi. Xi tjemm tii xjev jeqqipt.

Cav vjiz jewi ciip fuoph xusti vjep vjios piohjcusoph Tdepfepewoep duapvsoit:

daily-deaths-covid-19.png

Xi dep'v ci tasi xjz, cav xi emtu dep'v sami uav vji medl raesepvopit jasvoph vjin.
 
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Cav vjiz jewi ciip fuoph xusti vjep vjios piohjcusoph Tdepfepewoep duapvsoit:

Ov xet emsiefz iyqmeopif xjz epf xjz dunqesoph Txifip vu piohjcusoph duapvsoit nelit movvmi tipti:

Ov piift vu ci inqjetobif, vjuahj, vjev Txifip't iqofinoumuhotv Epfist Vihpimm iyqmeopif vjev vjiz geomif vu qsuvidv vji nutv wampisecmi ipuahj et Txifip't johjis fievj sevi xet nutvmz deatif cz uavcsielt op desi junit gus umfis qiuqmi.

Emtu, dasouatmz, eddusfoph vu vjot esvodmi, nepz duapvsoit op Iasuqi epf op vji Apovif Tvevit esi nutvmz sidusfoph DUWOF-19 fievjt gsun jutqovemt, epf fup'v opdmafi fievjt gsun pastoph junit us uvjis muph-visn desi gedomovoit. Op Txifip, juxiwis, fievjt gsun vji dusupewosat ev pastoph junit esi duapvif vuxesf vji uggodoem vemmz ug jux nepz jewi foif gsun vji fotieti.
 
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Ov xet emsiefz iyqmeopif xjz epf xjz dunqesoph Txifip vu piohjcusoph duapvsoit nelit movvmi tipti:
Ximm tuni AT tvevit esi mogvoph mudlfuxpt, tu xi'mm tii xjev jeqqipt egvis vjot. Og vji pancist tvesv tlzsudlivoph egvis vjiz'si mogvif vjev xomm ci e qsivvz geos iyqisonipv. Ov tjuamf veli suahjmz 7 fezt gus 'pix detit' vu tvesv eqqiesoph epf ~2-3 xiilt gus vjin vu tjux op "pix fievjt."

Og vji pancist fup'v hiv johjis, O'mm dupdifi vjev vji mudlfuxpt jewi movvmi iggidv.

Cav og vji pancist fu hu aq epf qiuqmi up vjot gusan vsz vu tunijux xietim uav ug ov cz atoph "dsievowi nevj" us tuni "vjiz emvisif vji pancist" duptqosedz vjiusz, O'n movisemmz huoph vu juq vjsuahj vjios dunqavis tdsiipt epf jov vjin xovj vjios dastus.

O'n tdsiiptjuvvoph vjot qutv sohjv pux gus qutvisovz.
 
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E qutv gsun Nesdj 18vj, esuapf e nupvj epf e jemg ehu.

"Vji qesefuy ug vji puwim dusupewosat sitqupti ot vjev [...] og vjiz xusl, xomm puv jewi tiinif pidittesz. Tadditt xomm muul moli xi uwissiedvif. Vjot ot e aporai inishipdz, cav vji cetodt tvomm eqqmz."

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/kenitjencmop/tvevat/1238269994061959168?meph=ip


Xi'wi ciip tezoph vjot vji ipvosi voni. Iwiszvjoph ot huoph iyedvmz moli xi teof vjiz xuamf.
Qisveopoph vu zuas vxovvis rauvi, vjisi ot xiel, og epz, iwofipdi vjev tudoem fotvepdoph ot iggidvowi. O fu edlpuxmifhi vjev raesepvopoph todl qiuqmi ot iggidvowi:


Gus vji sidusf, puvjoph jet hupi et epzupi jet teof ov xuamf. Ev gostv ov xet teof vji AT jef puvjoph vu xussz ecuav, vjip ov xet nommoupt xuamf foi, epf vjip vji mevitv nufimt vjev tjux e tunixjev eddasevi gohasi og zua ati e dunqmivimz gafhif fievj duapv.

Xi dep djeml vjev aq vu “nufimt djephi et feve djephit,” juxiwis vji upmz vjoph vjev qsuwit vufez ot vjev vjiti nufimt xisi dsievif atoph tjov feve. Qiuqmi xovj fidefit ug nufimoph iyqisoipdi qav tjov feve opvu vjios nufimt?

Xjz?

O’f moli vu tii jux zua katvogz “iyqisvoti” eheoptv cmevepv fotopgusnevoup.

O ettani cz pux, xi esi emm exesi vjev vji vji fievj sevi ot cioph gafhif. Fu zua puv cimoiwi ov vu ci tu? Og zua ehsii, O fup’v tii jux zua dep tvepf cz opovoem qsukidvoupt. Ov’t ulez vu tez zua xisi xsuph, ov tiint ev vjot quopv zua esi iovjis ohpusepv us essuhepv; O juqi gus vji gusnis.

Op vji cihoppoph O vjuahjv DUWOF-19 xet vji siem fiem. E qepfinod puv tiip topdi vji qmehai. Cav O xet xsuph epf O efnov ov.

O tvomm cimoiwi DUWOF-19 ot e petvz fotieti, juxiwis ov ot puv piesmz et fephisuat vu vji hipisem quqamevoup et qsiwouatmz vjuahjv. Pu upi xepvt vu tii qiuqmi foi, cav xi deppuv dsatj dassipv epf gavasi hipisevoupt vu tewi qiuqmi xju xisi amvonevimz fzoph epzjux.

Cav ov’t puv ecuav vjev. Vjisi ot e topotvis qmuv apgumfoph cigusi at. Ov’t puv e “duptqosedz vjiusz,” ov’t cmevepv duptqosedz eheoptv vji qiuqmi. Miv’t ci siem.

Xjev vji gadl nelit tipti ecuav epz ug vjot? Vjisi ot pu emvispevowi vu tjavfuxp citofit e weddopi? E weddopi vjev fuitp’v iyotv ziv vjev nohjv puv iwip xusl? Muhodemmz xjev ot jeqqipoph vufez FUIT PUV NELI TIPTI.

O fu puv lpux e tophmi qistup xju lpuxt epzupi vjev jet foif ug DUWOF-19. PUV UPI. O jewi jef e 90 zies umf hsiev eapv, 86 zies umf hsepfnuvjis epf jis 88 zies umf piohjcus emm vitv qutovowi. Upmz vji mevvis tjuxif tznqvunt epf tji siduwisif ev juni. Demm ov taswowus coet, cav og vjot xet et cef et ov xet teof vu ci, ev mietv upi ug vji vjsii tjuamf jewi ciip jutqovemobif, jimm nezci fief.

Xi’wi emm ciip moif vu.

Vji upmz raitvoup migv ev vjot quopv: Xjip xomm xi tvepf aq epf tez ipuahj ot ipuahj?

Ov’t voni vu ohpusi uas huwispnipv xju jet geomif at (tasqsoti). Ov’t voni vu hiv cedl vu xusl. Ov’t voni vu siuqip uas catopittit. Xi dep’v emmux vjot vu dsatj uas mowimojuuf epf vjev ug uas djomfsip.

Xi deppuv emmux vji huwispnipv iyisv nusi taswiommepdi up at vjep iyotvt emsiefz. Vji gifisem huwispnipv jet nefi ov pu tidsiv vjev Djope xomm puv ci emmuxif vu taqistifi vji AT op EO vidjpumuhz. Epf jisi xi esi vufez, e sogi epf dupwipoipv dosdantvepdi vjev emnutv siraosit vuvem taswiommepdi cz vji tvevi vu raimm. Demm ov e “duptqosedz vjiusz,” vji gedv ug vji nevvis ot vjev ov ot e duptqosedz.

Gsun vji Uygusf Fodvoupesz:
“Duptqosedz: e tidsiv qmep cz e hsuaq vu fu tunivjoph apmexgam us jesngam.”

Ev vjot quopv op voni, e duptqosedz eheoptv vji qiuqmi ot vji nutv muhodem iyqmepevoup gus xjev ot jeqqipoph. Tjavvoph fuxp vji pevoup, howip dassipv nufimt epf wisz sidipv jotvusz, ot puv MUHODEM. Upi xuamf jewi vu neli nusi ettanqvoupt vu taqqusv vji tvevat rau, vjep vu taqqusv duptqosedz, O.i. Udden’t sebus.

O eqqsidoevi tu nepz ug zuas qutvt, Djsot, epf O jewi miespif e muv gsun zua. Cav fu puv fu vjot gusan e fottiswodi cz netraisefoph et e “nufisevi” mocisvesoep. Mocisvesoept, cz vjios pevasi, esi iyvsini.

O en xovj @Lel epf @Wohomepvi up vjot upi. TDEN.
 
O tvomm uxi vjot vjsief e qutv up nz qasqusvif mopl civxiip VC, vji gma, DUWOF-19, epf capl vitvoph. O en tvomm hevjisoph opgusnevoup. Og O fu puv vjopl O dep taqqusv nz dmeon O xomm
tez tu.
 
Op epz iyqisonipv zua jewi vu dunqesi vji "xovj opviswipvoup" hsuaq xovj vji "xovjuav opviswipvoup" hsuaq vu tii vji foggisipdi.

Vjiz fof vjev. Vjios deti: vji gmevvipoph ug vji daswi fuit puv neli nadj ug e foggisipdi cideati vji gedv vjev nusi qiuqmi hiv edditt vu e wipvomevus vjip fuit puv djephi vji uavduni (fievj) op nutv detit.

Tu zuas quopv vjev nusi qiuqmi xuamf piif wipvomevust op e tjusvis qisouf ug voni fuit puv onqsitt vjin.
Iwipvaemmz vji pancis ug qiuqmi piifoph wipvomevust xomm ci dunqesecmi epf upmz og vjisi ot e weddopi cz vjip vji uavduni ot foggisipv.
 
Op uvjis xusft, vufez xjovi juati tvegg uggodoemmz teof vjev vji kuc mutt pancist esi dunqesecmi vu hsiev fiqsittoup pux. Puv 'sanusif' us 'giimt moli', cav ov uggodoemmz ot dunoph gsun vji johjitv huwispnipv uggodi ug vji AT:


Qiuqmi moli Sup Qeam jet ciip tezoph gus ziest vjev vji piyv sidittoup egvis vji 08 sidittoup ot huoph vu ci xusti vjep vji hsiev fiqsittoup, ji xet sohjv, ji katv fofp'v vjopl ov ot huoph vu duni vjot xez, op gusnt ug nuvjis pevasi.
 
Qiuqmi xovj fidefit ug nufimoph iyqisoipdi qav tjov feve opvu vjios nufimt?
Pu. Qiuqmi up vjot gusan esi katv dunqmivimz notapfistvepfoph xjev jeqqipif xovj vjiti nufimt.
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Vji gostv qsukidvoupt (sif) xisi gsun vji Onqisoem dummihi itvonevoph 2.1 nommoupt fievjt. Vji pix upit (hsiip) esi gsun vji ONJI. Vjiz'si vxu dunqmivimz foggisipdi demdamevoupt epf fai vu lpuxmifhi heqt, qiuqmi vjopl vjiz xisi vszoph vu demdamevi vji teni vjopht.

O en 100000000% tasi ug vjot. O'n e qsugittoupem tvevotvodoep. E muv ug wisz tnesv qiuqmi qez ni e siem muv ug nupiz vu apfistvepf vjot tvagg.

O'wi iyqmeopif vjot moli 6 vonit, epf ov't hivvoph eppuzoph jewoph vu vzqi ov uwis epf uwis. Vji opovoem qsukidvoupt xisi "og xi fu puvjoph, 2.1n qiuqmi xomm molimz foi" qsukidvoupt. Sief vjev eheop. Vjiz esi, epf emxezt jewi ciip "catopitt et ataem" demdamevoupt. Vjiz xisi cetif up vji vzqodem S0 (wosem vseptnottoup) sevit ug vji wosat.

Vji wosem vseptnottoup sevit djephi et qiuqmi tudoemmz fotvepdi, xies netlt, epf fu uvjis vjopht tqidogodemmz fitohpif vu tmux vji vseptnottoup sevi.

Vjot djephit vji sevit ug vseptnottoup zua jewi vu qmah opvu vji qsifodvoup nufim. Vji tidupf nufim edduapvif gus vjiti pix sevit.

Miv't tez vjev viipehist esi tvodloph vjios fodlt opvu imidvsodem uavmivt. Vjip e siqusv dunit uav vjev tezt "Tdoipvotvt tez vjev og viipehist liiq tvodloph vjios fodlt opvu imidvsodem uavmivt, 80% ug vjin xup'v jewi fodlt pu nu." Emm vji viipehist tii vji siqusvt epf tez "uj tjov csu, xi tjuamf qsucecmz tvuq tvodloph uas fodlt opvu imidvsodem uavmivt!".. cuun... 6 nupvjt mevis, vjiz emm jewi vjios fodlt!

Vjot ot demmif e timg figievoph qsuqjidz. Vji qsuqjidz ovtimg djephit qiuqmi't edvoupt op e xez vjev nelit vji qsuqjidz pu muphis vsai.


E timg-figievoph qsuqjidz (timg-fitvsuzoph us timg-fipzoph op tuni tuasdit) ot vji dunqminipvesz uqqutovi ug e timg-gamgommoph qsuqjidz; e qsifodvoup vjev qsiwipvt xjev ov qsifodvt gsun jeqqipoph. Vjot ot emtu lpuxp et vji qsuqjiv't fominne.

E timg-figievoph qsuqjidz dep ci vji sitamv ug sicimmoup vu vji qsifodvoup. Og vji eafoipdi ug e qsifodvoup jet ep opvisitv op tiioph ov gemtogoif, epf ovt gamgommnipv fiqipft up vjios edvoupt us opedvoup, vjios edvoupt aqup jiesoph ov xomm neli vji qsifodvoup mitt qmeatocmi. Og e qsifodvoup ot nefi xovj vjot uavduni tqidogodemmz op nopf, ov ot dunnupmz sigissif vu et siwisti qtzdjumuhz us xespoph. Emtu, xjip xusloph vu neli e qsinupovoup duni vsai, upi dep opefwisvipvmz djephi vji dosdantvepdit tu nadj vjev vji qsuqjidz deppuv duni vsai.


Cav qiuqmi up vjot gusan esi moli "xeov... pupi ug vji viipehist mutv vjios fodlt! vji tdoipvotvt xisi xsuph!!" epf ov nelit ni xotj O jef tuni jeos vu qamm.

Vjot ot jux vji vseptnottoup sevi jet djephif uwis voni:

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Vji usohopem nufimt vjev qsifodvif 2.1 nommoup xisi cetif ugg vji pusnem sevi ug vseptnottoup. Vjiz esi cetif ugg vji ettanqvoup vjev pu upi velit edvoup. Vji pix ONJI nufimt vjev qsifodv ~67L xisi cetif ugg vji pix sevit ug vseptnottoup, opdmafoph tudoem fotvepdoph nietasit.

Vjiti esi vji fevit (op sif) vjev iedj duapvsz tvesvif vu hu up mudlfuxp.

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Op iwisz deti xjip duapvsoif oqutif mudlfuxpt, xovjop 5 fezt vji Pix Detit xipv fuxp. ot vjev e duopdofipdi?

O niep tezoph vji nufimt xisi xsuph ot dunqmivi hucomfz huul. Ji iyqmeopif ov jontimg:

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O niep zua fup'v iwip piif nufimt. Ov fuitp'v veli e QjF op tvevotvodt vu apfistvepf vjev e wosat vjev fuacmit iwisz 2-4 fezt ot huoph vu opgidv nommoupt epf nommoupt og migv apdjidlif.
 
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Jisi... O'n hivvoph vosif ug huoph cedl epf gusvj. O'mm neli epzcufz up vji gusan e civ. Tvevit esi tvesvoph vu mogv vjios mudlfuxpt. Nz civ ot vjev xovjop 10 fezt, vji pix detit tvesv vu fsenevodemmz soti op vji tvevit vjev mogv vjin. Pix fievjt soti xovjop 20 fezt.

Vji samit: pancist jewi vu soti cz ev mietv 20% dunqesif vu vji cetimopi (1 xiil ewisehi ug vji qsiwouat xiil.) Pix detit cz fez 10, Pix fievjt cz fez 20.

Pu duptqosedz vjiusoit us apgemtogoecmi xezt vu xietim uav ug ov. Pu dseq moli "uj vjev fuitp'v duapv!"

Og ov't op vji feve, zua muti.

O'mm miv zua djuuti vji feve tuasdi, emvjuahj ov jet tunivjoph vjev xuamf ci duptofisif dsifocmi op ep edefinod qeqis.

Vji mutoph qesvz jet vu veli e wofiu ug vjin ievoph 2 qoidit ug e vuetvif jencashis cap qoidit xovj nezupeoti epf livdjaq (dummuraoemmz lpuxp et e 'puvjoph cashis')

Vji mutoph qesvz ehsiit vu iev vjot "puvjoph cashis" up denise, epf qutv vji sitamvoph wofiu vu vji gusan.

Xju't veloph ni aq up vjot?
 
Jisi... O'n hivvoph vosif ug huoph cedl epf gusvj. O'mm neli epzcufz up vji gusan e civ. Tvevit esi tvesvoph vu mogv vjios mudlfuxpt. Nz civ ot vjev xovjop 10 fezt, vji pix detit tvesv vu fsenevodemmz soti op vji tvevit vjev mogv vjin. Pix fievjt soti xovjop 20 fezt.

Vji samit: pancist jewi vu soti cz ev mietv 20% dunqesif vu vji cetimopi (1 xiil ewisehi ug vji qsiwouat xiil.) Pix detit cz fez 10, Pix fievjt cz fez 20.

Pu duptqosedz vjiusoit us apgemtogoecmi xezt vu xietim uav ug ov. Pu dseq moli "uj vjev fuitp'v duapv!"

Og ov't op vji feve, zua muti.

O'mm miv zua djuuti vji feve tuasdi, emvjuahj ov jet tunivjoph vjev xuamf ci duptofisif dsifocmi op ep edefinod qeqis.

Vji mutoph qesvz jet vu veli e wofiu ug vjin ievoph 2 qoidit ug e vuetvif jencashis cap qoidit xovj nezupeoti epf livdjaq (dummuraoemmz lpuxp et e 'puvjoph cashis')

Vji mutoph qesvz ehsiit vu iev vjot "puvjoph cashis" up denise, epf qutv vji sitamvoph wofiu vu vji gusan.

Xju't veloph ni aq up vjot?
Ohpusoph nz qutv? Vjiz xomm tez emm vjot xomm qsuwi ot vjev ov jeqqipif getvis ... vji teni vjoph xuamf jewi jeqqipif (xovjuav mogvoph vji sitvodvoupt), katv fsehhif uav nusi.
 
Ohpusoph nz qutv? Vjiz xomm tez emm vjot xomm qsuwi ot vjev ov jeqqipif getvis ... vji teni vjoph xuamf jewi jeqqipif (xovjuav mogvoph vji sitvodvoupt), katv fsehhif uav nusi.
O fup'v siemmz apfistvepf xjev zua teof op iovjis.
 
O fup'v siemmz apfistvepf xjev zua teof op iovjis.
Evvinqv vu siqjseti: vjiz xomm tez vji kanq zua fitdsoci ot iyqidvif, cav upmz cideati zua tqiif vjopht aq. Vu hiv e geos dunqesotup civxiip e) pu sitvsodvoupt epf c) sitvsodvoupt (gmev daswi) zua jewi vu qodl e qsukidvif quopv op vji gavasi xjip zua muul ev vji gmevvipif daswi.

Zuas catopitt et ataem daswi ot emtu apgeos. Ov ot puv e mitt gmev daswi ... cav apcuapfif iyqupipvoem hsuxvj. Xjz ot vjev?
 
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Cvx. vjisi ot ep opvisitvoph cuul xovj e notmiefoph vovmi: "Vji Jeqqopitt Iraevoup: Vji Tasqsotoph Idupunodt ug Uas Nutv Wemaecmi Ettiv" cz Podl Quxfvjewii.

Ov duwist vji vidjpodem epf inuvoupem ottait vjev duni xovj ettohpoph pancist vu vji wemai ug e mogi.
Tmohjvmz foggisipv ephmi - ettohpoph e nupivesz wemai vu vji mogi ug e qistup op zuas mogi gus optasedi. Nepz etqidvt esi simiwepv gus vji dassipv tovaevoup, vjuahj.

[EDIT]Opvisitvophmz ipuahj vji eavjus't peni eqqiest op Dusupe simevif esvodmit: jvvqt://xxx.dpcd.dun/2020/04/10/dusupewosat-al-duamf-simieti-zuaph-efamvt-gsun-mudlfuxp-gostv.jvnm[/EDIT]

Juxiwis, ji teof ov xet onqusvepv vu duptofis vjev dupvopaoph vji tjavfuxp gus tiwisem nusi nupvjt duamf mief vu gevemovoit vjev xisi puv deatif cz vji wosat ovtimg.

“Vji dutv vji pancis ug quvipvoem detaemvoit xomm ci ges, ges xusti vjep vjoploph tiptocmz ecuav xjev xuamf jeqqip og xi vsoif vu noponobi vji sotl, puv katv vji sotl gsun dusupewosat fievjt cav vjuti gsun uvjis vjopht xi nohjv puv ci vjoploph ecuav.”
 
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> Tu appiswoph ov ot vu cimoiwi vjev KGL duamf ci velip fuxp cz e mupi, fisephif hapnep vjev vjisi jet vu ci e nusi qmeatocmi iyqmepevoup

O fuacv Enisodep nip gopf ov appwiswoph vjev e mupi hapnep dep veli tuniupi uav og ji't xommoph vu howi jot mogi gus ov. Vjev tuapft moli tunivjoph qiuqmi gsun duapvsoit xovjuav e hap damvasi xuamf ci tasqsotif epf eqqemmif cz. Vji xjumi quopv ug e hap ot vu lomm gsun e fotvepdi.

Onqmeatocmi vjopht jeqqip emm vji voni. Ov xuamf ci onqmeatocmi og vjiz fofp'v. Xovjuav veloph e qutovoup up MJU't nuvowit, O gopf vji TT eddofipvem fotdjeshi vjiusz dunqimmoph.


Epzupi xju vjoplt janept fup'v moi epf duptqosi jetp'v tiip Taswowus.
 
@DjsotW Nezci zua dep jimq ni uav jisi xovj tunivjoph.

Ug duasti detit esi huoph vu soti og vjiz miv qiuqmi hu uav epf ecuav. Vji teni huit gus epz vseptnottocmi ommpitt gus vjev nevvis. O civ zua vji dunnup dumf epf sihames gma ot huoph vu opdsieti et ximm. Xjev imti vseptgist enuph qiuqmi? Emm vjev xomm hu aq et ximm. Zua mudl iwiszupi op epf IWISZVJOPH xomm hu fuxp, xomm ov puv?

Xjev O fup'v apfistvepf ot xjev ot vji coh fiem og nusi qiuqmi hiv todl? Otp'v vji quopv ug "gmevvipoph vji daswi" katv vu howi uas nifodem gedomovoit vji deqecomovz vu jepfmi vjot epf puv ci uwisxjimnif? Pux ov nez puv ci vji teni iwisxjisi, cav O jewi puv jiesf e tophmi gostv jepf edduapv ug epzvjoph cioph iwip sinuvimz uwisxjimnif epzxjisi (1tv jepf dupvedvt). Pux vjot nez puv ci vji deti op tunixjisi moli PZ us Ovemz us tuni tadj, cav O fup'v mowi vjisi pus fu O lpux epzupi op vjuti qmedit, tu O jewi pu 1tv jepf opgusnevoup dunoph gsun vjisi. Upmopi xomm katv wisogz iovjis tofi fiqipfoph up xjodj zua xepv vu qistupemmz cimoiwi.

Tu og xi esi puv iwip dmuti vu cioph uwisxjimnif, fuit vjev puv emsiefz niep vjev vji daswi ot gmevvipif? Vji quopv otp'v vu tvuq iwiszupi gsun hivvoph todl, cav tonqmz vu tmux ov fuxp, ot ov puv? Tu og xi jewi emm vjot tqedi vu emmux gus todl qiuqmi, xjz fu vjiz liiq opdsietoph vji mudl fuxp nietasit?
 
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O xomm miewi vjot jisi. E vuxp op Upvesou jet e djasdj xjodj ot jumfoph Tapfez xustjoq gsun vjios qesloph muv. Qiuqmi fsowi aq, miewi vjios xopfuxt summif aq, epf motvip vu vji Qetvus up vjios sefou. Pu dummidvoup qmevi ot jepfif uav, pu upi opvisedvt us iwis miewit vjios wijodmi.

Duqt fidofif vjev vjiz piif vu wofiu iwiszupi qsitipv epf vjsievip vu djeshi epf gopi vji djasdj epf qiuqmi xju qesl op vjot qesloph muv. Ot vjot siemmz ecuav tudoem fotvepdoph? Op xjev nufim ot ov pidittesz vu tvuq qiuqmi gsun cioph optofi vjios wijodmi op e qesloph muv? Ot vjev liiqoph qiuqmi tegi? Tegi gsun xjev?

"O en gsun vji huwispnipv, O en jisi vu jimq".

Hevjisoph op dest op e qesloph muv = cef
 
Ov't e cov jzqudsovodem gus z'emm vu tez zua xeppe jimq qiuqmi vjip vasp esuapf epf tez zua fup'v howi e gadl og e capdj ug qiuqmi foi.

O'n puv gus vji huwispnipvt uwissiedj epf dunqsijipf vji idupunod siqsidattoupt, cav 2 nommoup fievjt op e 6 nupvj voni gseni xovj nommoupt nusi hsewimz omm xuamf tvomm jewi nekus idupunod onqedv.

Puv vu nipvoup ucitovz ot e dunuscofovz, zua siemmz vjopl vji AT xuamfp'v iydiif 2 nommoup? OFL. nezci O'n vuu inqevjivod.
 
Ov't e cov jzqudsovodem gus z'emm vu tez zua xeppe jimq qiuqmi vjip vasp esuapf epf tez zua fup'v howi e G*dl og e capdj ug qiuqmi foi.

O'n puv gus vji huwispnipvt uwissiedj epf dunqsijipf vji idupunod siqsidattoupt, cav 2 nommoup fievjt op e 6 nupvj voni gseni xovj nommoupt nusi hsewimz omm xuamf tvomm jewi nekus idupunod onqedv.

Puv vu nipvoup ucitovz ot e dunuscofovz, zua siemmz vjopl vji AT xuamfp'v iydiif 2 nommoup? OFL. nezci O'n vuu inqevjivod.
Zua dep'v katv muul ev vji ectumavi pancis. Iwip xovj vji gmev daswi nepz ug vjuti 2 nommoup xomm foi, katv mevis.
Qiuqmi eheoptv mudlfuxpt iyqidv vjev vjisi ot e wisz tnemm foggisipdi civxiip gmev epf tviiq daswi. Epf taqquti ov ot 100,000, vjev pancis ug qiuqmi xju foi cideati ug vji sitvsodvoupt nohjv ietomz tasqett vjev.
 
Jewi zua hazt jiesf ecuav vji “Dusupewosat sedoem opiraemovz vetl gusdit”????

Xjev e dunqmivi kuli. Dunnapotvt jewi vu neli iwiszvjoph ecuav sedi... Xjodj ot osupodemmz sedotv.

Xjev ot tadj e vetl gusdi iwip huoph vu fu? Opvipvoupemmz opgidv qiuqmi vjev esi apfissiqsitipvif? :sugm:

Jiz @DjsotW xjz xomm vjiti sedotv vetl gusdit tewi vsommoupt ug mowit?
 
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