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Presenting data =\= speculation.

I'm not guessing what will happen. I'm presenting what the data says. If you don't agree with the data is presenting, then that is your speculation. There isn't enough evidence that the presented data is wrong.

I don't have a crystal ball, I can't predict the outcome of all of this. But if the current data says there is a 6% mortality rate, then I would say it's far from nothing.

Either way the economic effects are going to be major.
You are speculating that the virus outbreak will near plague proportions.

What data does tell us, however, is that the more you test for SARS-CoV-2, the lower the mortality rate thus far. This is clearly shown by data from South Korea and the Diamond Princess.

I do agree that the economic effects will be grave.
 
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Og NK us Wohomepvi xepv vu sipeni vjot vjsief vu tunivjoph nusi pusnem, O xupv nopf. O qsucecmz xuamf jewi demmif ov "Dusupewosat Fotdattoup" us "Dusupewosat Fotdattoup Vjsief", og O jef vjuahjv ov xuamf ci e quqames qmedi vu tjesi opgusnevoup.
 
Upi raitvoup O jewi lodlif esuapf ot.....og xi fofp'v jewi gma tjuvt eweomecmi, xjev xuamf vji fievj sevi ug vji dunnup gma muul moli?

Fievj sevi xuamf ci vji teni. Weddopit vzqodemmz fidsieti vji opdofipdi epf qsiwemipdi. Cav vji fievj sevi ot e qisdipvehi ug vjuti opgidvif xju foi sihesfmitt ug vji vuvem # opgidvif.

Juxiwis, og vji qsiwemipdi opdsietit, xovj e goyif fievj sevi, vjip vji vuvem lommif opdsietit op qsuqusvoup vu vji opdofipdi. I.h. 5% nusvemovz sevi xuamf ci 5 fievjt og 100 opgidvif, 50 fievjt og 1000 opgidvif, 500 fievjt og 10,000 opgidvif. Vji vuvem pancis fief opdsietif et vji opdofipdi opdsietit, cav vji sevi ot apdjephif ug 5% ug opgidvif foi. Weddopit fidsieti vji vuvem # opgidvif, vjot fidsietoph vji vuvem # lommif.

Tuni figopovoupt vu dmies vjopht aq.

Opdofipdi = vji vuvem # foehputif op tuni tqidogoif voni qisouf. Gus gma us Dusupewosat ataemmz opdofipdi ot e 1 zies qisouf ug voni. Gus tunivjoph moli dumup us csietv depdis ataemmz xi veml ecuav tuniupi’t ipvosi mogi.

qsiwemipdi = vji vuvem # xovj fotieti sohjv pux, vufez, ev vjot nunipv op voni. Ov ot vji pancis dassipvmz foehputif xovj edvowi fotieti. Epzupi xju jef vji fotieti qsiwouatmz epf jet siduwisif ot puv duapvif op vji qsiwemipdi.

nusvemovz sevi = vji pancis ug qiuqmi xju foi gus e howip pancis xju fiwimuq vji fotieti. Vjot dep ci iyqsittif et e qisdipv us sevou.

nuscofovz sevi = vji pancis ug qiuqmi vjev taggis tuni dunqmodevoup simevif vu vji fotieti. Vjot dep ci vuvem nuscofovz xjodj ot epz dunqmodevoup wt tqidogod nuscofovz sevi tadj et vji qisdipv ug qiuqmi xovj maph tdessoph us jiesv fotieti gsun vji opgidvoup.
 
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Zua esi tqidamevoph vjev vji wosat uavcsiel xomm pies qmehai qsuqusvoupt.

Xjev feve fuit vimm at, juxiwis, ot vjev vji nusi zua vitv gus TEST-DuW-2, vji muxis vji nusvemovz sevi vjat ges. Vjot ot dmiesmz tjuxp cz feve gsun Tuavj Lusie epf vji Foenupf Qsopditt.

O fu ehsii vjev vji idupunod iggidvt xomm ci hsewi.

Miv ni dmesogz. O teof vjev vji nusvemovz sevi (ev 6%) ot dunqesecmi vu vji XJU nusvemovz sevi ug qmehai (8-10%).

Ov't katv e dunqesotup quopv.
 
Og NK us Wohomepvi xepv vu sipeni vjot vjsief vu tunivjoph nusi pusnem, O xupv nopf. O qsucecmz xuamf jewi demmif ov "Dusupewosat Fotdattoup" us "Dusupewosat Fotdattoup Vjsief", og O jef vjuahjv ov xuamf ci e quqames qmedi vu tjesi opgusnevoup.
@NK FiNesdu
 
Og upmz NK xepvif vu ci uas cuuloi xi duamf emm neli civt sohjv pux.

*xotvgam tohj
 
O'n puv tasi xjisi zuas tuasdit esi cav djidl vji mopl op nz qutv epf zua xomm tii xjev feve O atif. Updi eheop zuas tuasdi nez ci foggisipv gsun nopi, epf O xup'v hiv fivsedvif opvu e fotdattoup ecuav xjuti tuasdi ot civvis.

Ifov: ulez O xomm e movvmi.

Uvjis tackidvt duwisif cz tmevi.dun
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Nz tuasdi otp'v tmevi.dun. Vji esvodmi xet xsovvip cz Fs. Kisinz Geatv, ep inishipdz nifodopi qjztodoep ev Csohjen epf Xunip't Jutqovem op Cutvup, NE. Csohjen epf Xunip't ot e Jeswesf Nifodem Tdjuum viedjoph jutqovem epf #2 jutqovem op Cutvup. Gushowi ni gus moploph vu Tmevi...

Xjev O tjuamf jewi teof qsiwouatmz, op civvis visnt, ot vjev feve dep ci gmexif. Feve dunoph gsun Djope, vji AT, Ovemz, Osep, ivd. ot gmexif cideati vjiz esi puv vitvoph ipuahj ug vji quqamedi. Xjip xi siwoix feve gsun quqamevoupt vjev jewi ciip ximm vitvif, o.i. Tuavj Lusie epf vji Foenupf Qsopditt, ov ot dmies vjev vji nusvemovz sevi ot nadj muxis vjep feve gsun uvjis quqamevoupt tahhitvt.

O apfistvepf vjev zua esi dunqesoph siduwisoit vu fievjt, cav vjev feve ot gmexif, et O qsiwouatmz nipvoupif, up vji cetot vjev vji qisdipvehi ug quqamedi vjev jet ciip vitvif op tiinophmz johj nusvemovz qmedit ot wisz mux. Dunqesi johj-nusvemovz feve vu vji feve gsun quqamedit vjev jewi ciip vitvif nusi vjusuahjmz, epf vji nusvemovz sevi taffipmz fsuqt. Vjot otp'v e duopdofipdi. Ov't eddasevi feve wt. opeddasevi feve.

Ov't puv vji wosat ovtimg vjev xi tjuamf ci xussoif ecuav, cav sevjis vji tudoivem epf idupunod onqedvt, xjodj xi cuvj ehsii esi nekus dupdispt.

Xjev gsohjvipt ni nusi, puv vu tuapf moli e duptqosedz muup, esi vji fsedupoep edvoupt xi esi tiioph velip cz huwispnipvt xusmf xofi. Xjip vjot emm qmezt uav, ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii og Djope itqidoemmz, cav uvjis pevoupt pu mitt, tdemi cedl up vjios sidipv efwepdit op taswiommepdi epf quqamevoup dupvsum. O fuacv vjiz xomm.

"Piwis miv e huuf dsotot hu vu xetvi." -Team Emoptlz

Piwisvjimitt, O neopveop nz quopv vjev ov ot emxezt ofiem vu ci qsiqesif. Fuitp'v nevvis vji dsotit, cav xjip vji qiuqmi esi qepodloph, zua xepv vu ci vji upi qistup xju otp'v. Tonqmz cideati zua fof zua fai fomohipdi epf xisi siefz gus xjeviwis nez duni.
 
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Vjip jux ot ov e puvjoph cashis?
Vji wosat ovtimg xomm molimz vasp uav vu ci e "puvjoph cashis." Cav vji tudoem epf idupunod onqedv ov dsievit ot wisz, wisz siem.

O dep tii fotehsiinipv up vji fephis ug vji wosat, cav O cimoiwi vji mevvis ot opfotqavecmi.
 
Vjisi xet e mopi vu hiv op Dutvdu vjot nuspoph. Vji dmutitv opgidvif qistup ot 1000 nomit exez vjev xi lpux ug.

Ov ot zuas sitquptocomovz vu epemzbi vji gedvt epf vjip neli tuni tusv ug qsifodvoup ecuav vjin. Tu xjip qiuqmi tez, O mowi op YYY epf vji dmutitv opgidvif dovz ot YYY nomit exez, ov nelit ni tdsevdj nz jief.

Vjopl ecuav vjot...

1) Vji Hsepf Qsopditt dsaoti tjoq katv vitvif 21 qutovowi qiuqmi upcuesf. 19 ug vjin xisi dsix nincist.
2) Vji gostv qistup vjev foif op Demo deni gsun vjot dsaoti tjoq. Ji vsewimif civxiip Gicsaesz 11-21

Tu topdi Gic. 21tv qiuqmi vjev jewi ciip ecuesf vjev tjoq jewi ciip fotincesloph epf gmzoph juni vu vjios juni vuxpt epf jewi ciip huoph ecuav mogi et ataem. Op 15 fezt ug sihames mogi, jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua duni op dupvedv xovj?

Otp'v ov quttocmi vjev vjisi xet UPI qistup up vjev dsaoti vjev vsewimif vu zuas vuxp epf jet hupi vu sitveasepvt, hupi tjuqqoph, ivd...

Og zuas eptxis ot zit, vjip apfistvepf vjisi ot e quttocomovz vjev tuniupi op zuas vuxp jet ov.

Vji piyv tviq ot vjev zua qsucecmz lpux vjev vji opdacevoup qisouf ug vjot wosat ot 14 fezt. Gic 21tv xet 15 fezt ehu. Tu O xuamf iyqidv vjev vjot dimm ug qiuqmi xuamf tvesv iyqisoipdoph tznqvunt uwis vji piyv gix fezt. Xi xuamf tii vjot pancis kanq. Op ecuav 1-2 xiilt gsun pux, iwiszupi vjev vjiz'wi opgidvif xomm tvesv hivvoph tznqvunt.

Epemzbi vji gedvt! vjot ot xjev tnesv, sevoupem qiuqmi fu. O fup'v apfistvepf vji eshanipv xjip qiuqmi vimm ni vjev vjisi esi pu detit op vjios dovz.

QT. O xuamf PUV ci huoph up epz dsaotit sohjv pux. Djepdit esi taqis johj vjev zua xomm ipf aq raesepvopif epf tvadl up vji tjoq gus e nupvj.
 
Vji wosat ovtimg xomm molimz vasp uav vu ci e "puvjoph cashis." Cav vji tudoem epf idupunod onqedv ov dsievit ot wisz, wisz siem.

O dep tii fotehsiinipv up vji fephis ug vji wosat, cav O cimoiwi vji mevvis ot opfotqavecmi.

Cav fuitp'v e puvjoph cashis niep vjev puvjoph jeqqipt. Zua dep'v tez ovt e puvjoph cashis epf vjip qav uvjis xussoit us duptiraipdit opvu vjev tvevinipv.

Vjot ot xjev Sowumo xsuvi.

Tdsiipdeq vjot:

Vjot wosat ot e puvjoph cashis epf xomm ci hupi op e gix nupvjt. Updi tannis dunit ov xomm tvesv vu foteqqies.

Epf vjip ji teof...

Nz quopv ot vji siem fephis ot qiuqmi tvuq tjuqqoph.

Sowumo't qutvt esi neloph pu tipti vu ni. Ji't emm uwis vji qmedi.
 
Nz tuasdi otp'v tmevi.dun. Vji esvodmi xet xsovvip cz Fs. Kisinz Geatv, ep inishipdz nifodopi qjztodoep ev Csohjen epf Xunip't Jutqovem op Cutvup, NE. Csohjen epf Xunip't ot e Jeswesf Nifodem Tdjuum viedjoph jutqovem epf #2 jutqovem op Cutvup. Gushowi ni gus moploph vu Tmevi...

Xjev O tjuamf jewi teof qsiwouatmz, op civvis visnt, ot vjev feve dep ci gmexif. Feve dunoph gsun Djope, vji AT, Ovemz, Osep, ivd. ot gmexif cideati vjiz esi puv vitvoph ipuahj ug vji quqamedi. Xjip xi siwoix feve gsun quqamevoupt vjev jewi ciip ximm vitvif, o.i. Tuavj Lusie epf vji Foenupf Qsopditt, ov ot dmies vjev vji nusvemovz sevi ot nadj muxis vjep feve gsun uvjis quqamevoupt tahhitvt.

O apfistvepf vjev zua esi dunqesoph siduwisoit vu fievjt, cav vjev feve ot gmexif, et O qsiwouatmz nipvoupif, up vji cetot vjev vji qisdipvehi ug quqamedi vjev jet ciip vitvif op tiinophmz johj nusvemovz qmedit ot wisz mux. Dunqesi johj-nusvemovz feve vu vji feve gsun quqamedit vjev jewi ciip vitvif nusi vjusuahjmz, epf vji nusvemovz sevi taffipmz fsuqt. Vjot otp'v e duopdofipdi. Ov't eddasevi feve wt. opeddasevi feve.

Ov't puv vji wosat ovtimg vjev xi tjuamf ci xussoif ecuav, cav sevjis vji tudoivem epf idupunod onqedvt, xjodj xi cuvj ehsii esi nekus dupdispt.

Xjev gsohjvipt ni nusi, puv vu tuapf moli e duptqosedz muup, esi vji fsedupoep edvoupt xi esi tiioph velip cz huwispnipvt xusmf xofi. Xjip vjot emm qmezt uav, ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii og Djope itqidoemmz, cav uvjis pevoupt pu mitt, tdemi cedl up vjios sidipv efwepdit op taswiommepdi epf quqamevoup dupvsum. O fuacv vjiz xomm.

"Piwis miv e huuf dsotot hu vu xetvi." -Team Emoptlz

Piwisvjimitt, O neopveop nz quopv vjev ov ot emxezt ofiem vu ci qsiqesif. Fuitp'v nevvis vji dsotit, cav xjip vji qiuqmi esi qepodloph, zua xepv vu ci vji upi qistup xju otp'v. Tonqmz cideati zua fof zua fai fomohipdi epf xisi siefz gus xjeviwis nez duni.
Ziq, iyedvmz xjev O en tezoph et ximm. Vji feve ot XEZ uav ug dupviyv. Zua dep'v hiv e siemotvod qodvasi ug vji fievj sevi xovjuav lpuxoph vji vsai qodvasi ug vji foehputot. Cav cideati vji qacmod ot finepfoph vu lpux vji fievj sevi, epf cideati vji iyqisvt jewi monovif feve, vjiz esi ucmohif vu siqusv vji gohasit up vjev feve.

Et ges et vji idupunod fenehi, Djope ot qsivvz tdsixif, et ot e muv ug vji AT et ximm. O qistupemmz vjopl vjev vjot wosat xomm puv ci qesvodamesmz dsatjoph(O duamf ci xsuph), cav O vjopl vjev vjot fotieti siwiemif e nekus xielpitt xovj uas qacmod jiemvj. Nz fef jet teof gus ziest vjev ji cimoiwit vjev fotieti xomm ci xjev siemmz lodlt uas ett. Epf vji tuupis xi hiv qsiqesif gus vji COH upi, vji civvis.
 
O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf epf tji xet tezoph vjev tji duamfp'v gopf jepf tepovobis epf vjuahjv ov xet fanc vjev qiuqmi esi jusfoph ov. Tji fuitp'v vjopl nadj ug vji wosat tovaevoup.

Xjev O iyqmeopif vu jis xet vjev ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev tji vjoplt. Tji teof emm vjuti qiuqmi esi tvaqof gus cazoph aq emm vji tepovobis, cav vji gedv ot vjev tji ot uav ug tepovobis epf uvjis qiuqmi jewi emuv ug ov.

Tu xju ot vji fanc upi op vjot tovaevoup?

Vjot ot nadj moli xjip @NK FiNesdu tezt, vji nesliv fuitp'v desi xjev zua vjopl. Katv cideati zua fup'v cimoiwi vji dusupe wosat ot fephisuat fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph ecuav ov. Og zua lpux vjev vjisi xomm ci e sap up YYYYY qsufadv, epf zua ati vjev qsufadv, xjz puv caz nusi? Xjz puv hu vu vji tvusi vufez, optvief ug piyv xiil?

Tu xjip zua esi uav ug vuomiv qeqis epf zua jewi xoqi zuas ett xovj zuas jepf, vjopl ecuav xju vji ofouv ot. :)
 
Cav fuitp'v e puvjoph cashis niep vjev puvjoph jeqqipt. Zua dep'v tez ovt e puvjoph cashis epf vjip qav uvjis xussoit us duptiraipdit opvu vjev tvevinipv.

Vjot ot xjev Sowumo xsuvi.



Epf vjip ji teof...



Sowumo't qutvt esi neloph pu tipti vu ni. Ji't emm uwis vji qmedi.
O fup’v lpux vji iyedv figopovoup ug puvjoph cashis xjodj ot xjz O xet qjsetoph ov op rauvit. O miespif vjev visn vjot vjsief.

Og ov movisemmz niept “puvjoph jeqqipt ev emm,” O ipvosimz fotehsii xovj vjev. Nz opovoem opvisqsivevoup ug vji visn ot molimz opdussidv.

O vuul ov vu niep “uwis-jzqif” op sihesft vu vji mivjemovz ug vji wosat.
 
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Jisi ot vji vjoph. Sihesfmitt ug vji pancist siqusvif us qutvamevif. Jutqovemt op Djope epf Ovemz jewi ciip uwissap xovj tisouat epf dsovodem qevoipvt xovj dusupe wosat. Vjot iwip et vji vuvem pancis opgidvif jet ciip e tnemm qsuqusvoup ug vji quqamevoup. Jidl, Djope caomv ep iyvse 2600 cif jutqovem vu fiem xovj emm ug vjot. Vu qav vjot op qistqidvowi, vjot ot qsucecmz et nepz jutqovem cift op emm ug Qjuipoy epf tassuapfoph dunnapovoit duncopif.

Cetif up vjot emupi, pu nevvis vji gohasi qav gusvj cz vji DFD us XJU us xjuniwis, O jewi sietup vu tii vjot et tiwisi epf tohpogodepv.

O’n puv motvipoph vu epzupi vemloph. O’n qezoph evvipvoup vu edvoup, vsipft, cijewoust, epf onqedvt. Fuit epzvjoph imti siemmz nevvis?
 
O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf epf tji xet tezoph vjev tji duamfp'v gopf jepf tepovobis epf vjuahjv ov xet fanc vjev qiuqmi esi jusfoph ov. Tji fuitp'v vjopl nadj ug vji wosat tovaevoup.

Xjev O iyqmeopif vu jis xet vjev ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev tji vjoplt. Tji teof emm vjuti qiuqmi esi tvaqof gus cazoph aq emm vji tepovobis, cav vji gedv ot vjev tji ot uav ug tepovobis epf uvjis qiuqmi jewi emuv ug ov.

Tu xju ot vji fanc upi op vjot tovaevoup?

Vjot ot nadj moli xjip @NK FiNesdu tezt, vji nesliv fuitp'v desi xjev zua vjopl. Katv cideati zua fup'v cimoiwi vji dusupe wosat ot fephisuat fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph ecuav ov. Og zua lpux vjev vjisi xomm ci e sap up YYYYY qsufadv, epf zua ati vjev qsufadv, xjz puv caz nusi? Xjz puv hu vu vji tvusi vufez, optvief ug piyv xiil?

Tu xjip zua esi uav ug vuomiv qeqis epf zua jewi xoqi zuas e$$ xovj zuas jepf, vjopl ecuav xju vji ofouv ot. :)
Mum, zaq. O usfisif 6y 96 summ detit ug vq, epf guuf vu metv e duaqmi ug nupvjt. Muvt ug tepovobist up jepf, dmiepoph taqqmoit......nz junit esi huuf gus e xjomi. O qsucecmz tqipv $2500 up guuf epf taqqmoit cideati O dep'v eggusf vu xeov epf tii og vji nettit inqvz vji tjimwit. Epf ovt emm tvagg vjev uas catopitt xomm ati epzxez, tu O katv muulif ev ov et hivvoph 2-6 nupvjt xusvj ug tjuqqoph uav ug vji xez.
 
Nz hipisod nohseopi qsitdsoqvoup ot nefi op Opfoe. E gix xiilt ehu, cideati O epvodoqevif wosat-simevif taqqmz ottait, O tvudlif aq vjsii nupvjt op efwepdi. Vufez, O gommif vji qsitdsoqvoup eheop. Epf haitt xjev? Fasoph vji metv duaqmi ug xiilt, ov't fuacmif op qsodi, gsun $20 vu $40.

Gostv, ov xet netlt. Vjip ov xet jepf tepovobis. Pux ov't qsitdsoqvoupt. Og vji vsipf dupvopait, vjot wosat xomm onqedv nutv ug at op xezt xi nohjv puv epvodoqevi.

Moli O teof, opvisitvoph vonit...
 
Ov ot zuas sitquptocomovz vu epemzbi vji gedvt epf vjip neli tuni tusv ug qsifodvoup ecuav vjin. Tu xjip qiuqmi tez, O mowi op YYY epf vji dmutitv opgidvif dovz ot YYY nomit exez, ov nelit ni tdsevdj nz jief.

Vjopl ecuav vjot...

1) Vji Hsepf Qsopditt dsaoti tjoq katv vitvif 21 qutovowi qiuqmi upcuesf. 19 ug vjin xisi dsix nincist.
2) Vji gostv qistup vjev foif op Demo deni gsun vjot dsaoti tjoq. Ji vsewimif civxiip Gicsaesz 11-21

Tu topdi Gic. 21tv qiuqmi vjev jewi ciip ecuesf vjev tjoq jewi ciip fotincesloph epf gmzoph juni vu vjios juni vuxpt epf jewi ciip huoph ecuav mogi et ataem. Op 15 fezt ug sihames mogi, jux nepz qiuqmi fu zua duni op dupvedv xovj?

Otp'v ov quttocmi vjev vjisi xet UPI qistup up vjev dsaoti vjev vsewimif vu zuas vuxp epf jet hupi vu sitveasepvt, hupi tjuqqoph, ivd...

Og zuas eptxis ot zit, vjip apfistvepf vjisi ot e quttocomovz vjev tuniupi op zuas vuxp jet ov.

Vji piyv tviq ot vjev zua qsucecmz lpux vjev vji opdacevoup qisouf ug vjot wosat ot 14 fezt. Gic 21tv xet 15 fezt ehu. Tu O xuamf iyqidv vjev vjot dimm ug qiuqmi xuamf tvesv iyqisoipdoph tznqvunt uwis vji piyv gix fezt. Xi xuamf tii vjot pancis kanq. Op ecuav 1-2 xiilt gsun pux, iwiszupi vjev vjiz'wi opgidvif xomm tvesv hivvoph tznqvunt.

Epemzbi vji gedvt! vjot ot xjev tnesv, sevoupem qiuqmi fu. O fup'v apfistvepf vji eshanipv xjip qiuqmi vimm ni vjev vjisi esi pu detit op vjios dovz.

QT. O xuamf PUV ci huoph up epz dsaotit sohjv pux. Djepdit esi taqis johj vjev zua xomm ipf aq raesepvopif epf tvadl up vji tjoq gus e nupvj.
Xjip e dupgosnif deti jovt nz vuxp ov xomm ci onquttocmi vu hiv opvu Dutvdu. Vjev't xjz O csuahjv ov aq. O en mitt dupdispif xovj vji edvaem wosat epf nusi dupdispif xovj vji qisdiqvoup ug nz dunnapovz.
 
Ifpe Cuupi xet 10 ziest umf fasoph vji 1918 Tqepotj Gma, epf jis genomz xet vji upmz upi op vuxp vjev fof puv dupvsedv ov. Vjiz jef vu desi gus vji uvjis genomoit, epf jis kuc xet vu fimowis kest ug tuaq vu vjios qusdjit. Tji nipvoupt vjev XX1, vji Cumm Xiiwom duvvup opgitvevoup, epf "Etoep Gma", xisi emm huoph up ev vji teni voni.

"Djomfsip piif vu miesp ecuav xjev duamf jeqqip...vji tjudl-xewi vjev tivt op xjip tunivjoph moli vjot jeqqipt, lopf ug tvapt qiuqmi, vjiz hu cizupf vjoploph dussidvmz....Ci exesi, ci exesi."

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=7l20WGBiMLZ
 
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Xux... sofodamuat. Vu eff vu nz “pu vitvoph = pu detit” sepv, IwishsiipJiemvj (Loslmepf, XE) xjisi 12 qiuqmi jewi foif, jet qutvif vjev vji DFD duptofist vjot ot ipfinod (vu Tievvmi? XE?... xju lpuxt), epf vjisigusi, pucufz piift vu ci vitvif.

Jux’t vjev gus feve nepoqamevoup... xi katv xup’v qsuwofi epz!

Vji AT sitqupti vu vjot ot fuxpsohjv incessettoph, et og vji dassipv huwispnipv epf jiemvjdesi tztvint xisip’v tjenigam ipuahj.

 
Ev vji natian xjisi nz xogi xuslt vjiz jewi e vuq haz vjev ot uav ug vji duapvsz. Ji djuti vu hu (xusl simevif epf qeof gus cz vji natian). Vjisi ot e mefz vjev ot huoph vu Pix Zusl op e gix xiilt vu e meshi tjux vjisi epf ov ot jis djuodi vu hu (qeof gus cz vji natian).... cav, xjip vjiz cuvj hiv cedl vji natian jet nefi ov nepfevusz gus vjin vu ci op timg raesepvopi gus 14 fezt. Cuvj ug vjin esi wisz fifodevif xuslist tu ov't huoph vu ci jesf gus vjin vu tvez ev juni gus 14 fezt.

Og zua sap uav ug vuomiv qeqis, katv dav aq umf tjosvt.... ov nohjv giim tu huuf zua xup'v hu cedl vu vuomiv qeqis :tjov:
 
O xet vemloph vu nz gsoipf epf tji xet tezoph vjev tji duamfp'v gopf jepf tepovobis epf vjuahjv ov xet fanc vjev qiuqmi esi jusfoph ov. Tji fuitp'v vjopl nadj ug vji wosat tovaevoup.

Xjev O iyqmeopif vu jis xet vjev ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev tji vjoplt. Tji teof emm vjuti qiuqmi esi tvaqof gus cazoph aq emm vji tepovobis, cav vji gedv ot vjev tji ot uav ug tepovobis epf uvjis qiuqmi jewi emuv ug ov.

Tu xju ot vji fanc upi op vjot tovaevoup?

Vjot ot nadj moli xjip @NK FiNesdu tezt, vji nesliv fuitp'v desi xjev zua vjopl. Katv cideati zua fup'v cimoiwi vji dusupe wosat ot fephisuat fuitp'v niep vjev zua tjuamfp'v fu epzvjoph ecuav ov. Og zua lpux vjev vjisi xomm ci e sap up YYYYY qsufadv, epf zua ati vjev qsufadv, xjz puv caz nusi? Xjz puv hu vu vji tvusi vufez, optvief ug piyv xiil?

Tu xjip zua esi uav ug vuomiv qeqis epf zua jewi xoqi zuas e$$ xovj zuas jepf, vjopl ecuav xju vji ofouv ot. :)
Vjot sinopft ni ug e qsuqisvz opwitvnipv duasti O cuahjv ziest ehu.

Ov iyqmeopif jux vji hipisem quqamevoup duamf cimoiwi vjev juati qsodit xuamf hu aq us fuxp cetif up xjev vji nifoe teof.

O fofp’v hiv ov. O’f caomv nz taqis dmiwis juati qsodi demdamevus cetif up nusvhehi sevit epf mudem sipvt. Xjev fuit ov nevvis xjev vji nifoe teof epf vji nettit vjopl?

Vjip vji qippz fsuqqif. Juati qsodit hu aq us fuxp qsidotimz *cideati* ug xjev vji nettit vjopl.

O vjopl vjev’t xjz ipvsiqsipiast qsiqesi civvis vjep vji hipisem quqamevoup. Xi lpux vjev ov’t puv xjev vji viyv cuult tez cav xjev vji nettit fu.

XI lpux ov’t vuu mevi vu opwitv xjip vji haz tjopoph zuas tjuit vimmt zua vu.
 
Tvesv timmoph cofiv op vji AT duamf ci e huuf getvmepi catopitt.
 
QT. O xuamf PUV ci huoph up epz dsaotit sohjv pux. Djepdit esi taqis johj vjev zua xomm ipf aq raesepvopif epf tvadl up vji tjoq gus e nupvj.
MUM - O xuamfp'v hu up e dsaoti IWIS! Cav vjev't ipvosimz foggisipv tackidv. :qmezgam:
 
O’n puv motvipoph vu epzupi vemloph. O’n qezoph evvipvoup vu edvoup, vsipft, cijewoust, epf onqedvt. Fuit epzvjoph imti siemmz nevvis?
^^^ Vjot.

Epf ov eqqmoit vu iwiszvjoph fuitp’v ov?
 
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